Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to fill. I'd be pretty confident that they other main vendors will be quickly trying to come up with competition. (And no, even though I And here they come marching: http://www.everex.com/ And right on cue, here comes my employer's eeePC killer - http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps-umpc-2133-revealed/ You have to wonder though whether in 10 years we have really come that far - http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=233 . The sub-notebook category all but dissappeared and now it seems to be back with a vengeance. If it hasn't been mentioned yet, the General Talk at tomorrow's SLUG meeting will be all about these kinds of devices :) http://www.slug.org.au/node/90 -- Need to fork out $$$ for the next software upgrade? Break the cycle! http://www.linux.org.au/linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
snip If it hasn't been mentioned yet, the General Talk at tomorrow's SLUG meeting will be all about these kinds of devices :) http://www.slug.org.au/node/90 Has anyone has experience with the video conferencing on the EEEPC? There is someone (with a EEEPC) who would like to attend remotely. Marghanita -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to fill. I'd be pretty confident that they other main vendors will be quickly trying to come up with competition. (And no, even though I And here they come marching: http://www.everex.com/ And right on cue, here comes my employer's eeePC killer - http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps-umpc-2133-revealed/ You have to wonder though whether in 10 years we have really come that far - http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=233 . The sub-notebook category all but dissappeared and now it seems to be back with a vengeance. Regards, Martin Martin Visser -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008, Martin Visser wrote:
And right on cue, here comes my employer's eeePC killer -
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/hps-umpc-2133-revealed/
You have to wonder though whether in 10 years we have really come that far -
http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=233 . The sub-notebook category
all but dissappeared and now it seems to be back with a vengeance.
Google for libretto PC and picturebook PC - I hope this resurfacing is
as successful (but brings better software!) than the Apple Newton - Palm Pilot
-
{Windows CE devices} - {Mobile Windows CE devices} path.
Adrian
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Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to wonder though whether in 10 years we have really come that far - http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=233 . The sub-notebook category all but dissappeared and now it seems to be back with a vengeance. You are right, we haven't gone far enough, but here is something that might justify ten years of waiting: http://www.physorg.com/news122819670.html Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:43:05 +, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And here they come marching: http://www.everex.com/ That's what I want - just like the Eee but with more ports, builtin wireless ethernet. Good since my beautiful hp nc4200 just got stolen from my (windowless) van :-( They even cut through the Kensington cable that locked it to the chassis of the van. To protect my next laptop I've now installed one of those shiny silver lock boxes that carpenters use... Thanks, -- Sonia Hamilton -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
Martin Visser wrote: There were dozens at LCA last month - geek envy abounded. Nah, the *real* geek envy was all around John Ferlito's Dell XPS, with the 4G of RAM and the 160G drive that was way more gorgeous than *any* of the Apple laptops I've seen. Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Unsolicited Broadcast Email is Forced Pay-per-view Advertising. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
Hi all guys !that's first time i write in, but i'm following SLUG from time. Impressions about EEEPC are wonderful, hackings are well documented. i do really agree with martin, since umpc can't compete with low-price of eee, and they dont have Solid State DIsks, wich are one of advantages in ASUS. if you add that here in italy we have a bonus for temporary workers, it will cost you 99 €. maybe you have smthng similar in AUS ? it is prefect with KISMET, GPSDRIVE, AIRCRACK_NG, and also it is the perfect diagnose pc, with it's little size and good battery (needs some cycles to go full power). its components are top quality, and screen readabilty is hence good, practice is the secret !! LOL surely space is a limit, but you can couple with portable 2.5 usb hdd or a NAS . compiz make it superb (xubuntu, no xandros anymore, also if it is good). note that hw/firmware releases are available only if xandors installed, so watch out ! last note, models sent after january don't support much hacking, since they don't have the supplementary mini-pci ... bye from italy, Max On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Visser wrote: There were dozens at LCA last month - geek envy abounded. Nah, the *real* geek envy was all around John Ferlito's Dell XPS, with the 4G of RAM and the 160G drive that was way more gorgeous than *any* of the Apple laptops I've seen. Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Unsolicited Broadcast Email is Forced Pay-per-view Advertising. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Massimiliano Fantuzzi, IT Professionist System Builder www.fantuz.net // [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to fill. I'd be pretty confident that they other main vendors will be quickly trying to come up with competition. (And no, even though I And here they come marching: http://www.everex.com/ Review in Wired: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/02/everex-cloudboo.html And comparison with Sony Vaio Premium SZ: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/02/hands-on-with-e.html --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
So many great and informative responses :D Thanks, Sluggers. Amos Shapira wrote: to fill. I'd be pretty confident that they other main vendors will be quickly trying to come up with competition. (And no, even though I And here they come marching: http://www.everex.com/ The big difference being HDD vs. solid state storage. I am really interested in a backpackable lappy so that I can travel light without worrying about dropping my bag en route. Also thinking about one for a 14-yr old net addict ... she is none to kind to hardware (which teenager is?) who likes nothing better that balancing a notebook on her knees while yacking on the phone, watching TV, eating toast and drinking milo at the same time. That said, I have a Mac powerbook circa 2001 still running fine. It has been dropped from table height to a hardwood floor and carpet about four times now and still shines. Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin' as they say. (The only damage: the optical drive only reads DVDs now ... it rejects CDs!) cheers rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services The manufacture and transport of a 1L bottle of Fiji water consumes 26kg of water, 0.9kg of fossil fuel and emits 0.5kg of greenhouse gas. -- Pablo Paster, Sustainability Engineer at Triple Pundit -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
I got a black one from Bing Lee for $470 on Wednesday. So far I love it! It actually seems smoother and faster than my desktop for some things (eg youtube) and actually has the lastest version of Skype so you can do video calls with the in builtltmicrophone and webcam. Projects for the near future: 1. Get Compiz-Fusion working with Xandros (the OS the Eee PC comes with). Apparently this can be done. 2. Get a 2Gb 667Hz RAM fro upgrade - anyone know how to do this on the new '7C' serial number Eee PCs? 3. Find a way to be able to reinstall Xandros so I can try other operating systems. Well, not try them so much as install Fluxbuntu or Xubuntu. But I want to have Xandros on hand in case it doesn't work. BTW, Xandros is not a bad OS. I'm not sure what I was expecting after their bed games with Microsoft, but the OS is pretty good. I don't usually like KDE, but I really suits the Eee PC. 4. Find out how to get the ultra cheap copies of Windows (tm) the are promised to any Xandros user after the voucher agreementI alluded to above. Hey, I'm all for getting free or very cheap stuff! Other notes: 1. The webcam is good and video Skype is great quality for both parties. 2. Wifi is simple and robust. 3. The screen actually has a better rez than most laptops, its just smaller. The only problem with this is having to side-scroll webpages. 4. If you have sausage fingers, start learning to type one handed. 5. Uses Amarok and open office, both of which work fine (open office works faster than on my desktop!). I'll bring mine on Friday as well. andy Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:52:55 +1100 (EST), Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone had a play with the Asus micro laptop? Described here: http://tinyurl.com/ynnn9c It runs some form of Linux, has no HDD, just 4 GB of flash. Sounds ideal for travel ... but perhaps the 7" screen is a bit too small. Going for about $450 at JB Hifi and less on eBay. cheers rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services A polar bear is a rectangular bear after a coordinate transform. -- Anon. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 00:52 +1100, aggeyl wrote: 3. Find a way to be able to reinstall Xandros so I can try other operating systems. Well, not try them so much as install Fluxbuntu or Xubuntu. But I want to have Xandros on hand in case it doesn't work. BTW, Xandros is not a bad OS. I'm not sure what I was expecting after their bed games with Microsoft, but the OS is pretty good. I don't usually like KDE, but I really suits the Eee PC. If you happen to have a USB CD-ROM, you can use that to boot off the disc that comes with the Eee. I think the manual talks about doing a restore. I didn't have one, so I booted eeexubuntu from a USB stick, which was able to bring up a network connection. Then, before reinstalling, used dd to grab an image of the internal SSD and transfer that across to a box with storage space. Comes the time I want to restore it, just boot from the USB again, blat the image back across the network and write it to the SSD with dd. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
Hi Massimiliano (welcome to the list), Thanks Simon, very kind. That's great to hear you have had success with Kismet/Gpsdrive as its something I want to play with when I get my hands on one. four words: awesome wardriving, so portable Secondly, do you have more information on the Eee PC's shipped after January not having mini pci ports. This is the first I've heard of this. *www.eee**pc*.asus.com/ http://www.eeepc.asus.com/ official site, i haven't browsed so much but is helpful firts times www.*eee**pc*.it http://www.eeepc.it/ italian site, try to catch CLI codes or ask me on this forum (dont flood, google before) HERE THEY SPEAKS ABOUT SERIAL NUMBERS AND LIMITATIONS www.*eee*user.com http://www.eeeuser.com/ un-official wiki / hacking / mods guide http://apcmag.com/7609/hacking_the_499_eee_pc_subnote good sw mods for un-defaulting XANDROS http://beta.ivancover.com/wiki/index.php/Eee_PC_Internal_Upgrades *all possible intrernal *hacks (not on ^8 series) http://www.eeepc.net/ the blog hope it helps, wikis are growing up fast ! (but delivery is REALLY slow, maybe ASUS didn't perceive a similar succes, but that's great ) i also add fresh flash from http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/02/11/eee-pc-hack-higher-resolution-under-linux/: Jaffa has posted a hack http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=14588on our forums that allows the Eee PC's resolution to go beyond the default limits while using Linux. He has two pictures of what it looks like in the post: in 960×576 and 1280×976. The hack is accomplished by staring a vnc server and opening a scaled client. As a result, you may have a few issues with it. However, it's still a brilliant and easy way to get a little more reading space on your Linux Eee PC (especially if you've been jealous of the Windows XP hackhttp://www.eeeuser.com/2008/01/11/your-eee-pc-in-800x600-1024x768-1280x1024/ !) Note from me: works on windows too ? test it out ! Bye to everyone, great list, bye to all australian guys and girls from italy, great LUG ! -- Massimiliano Fantuzzi, IT Professionist System Builder www.fantuz.net // [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
Hi, Can someone enlighten me please with respect to this comment here below about a cheap/free copy of an SM licence with one's eee? Which OS is it? How do I go about getting it? I could use another SM licence. Kind Regards Kyle aggeyl wrote: 4. Find out how to get the ultra cheap copies of Windows (tm) the are promised to any Xandros user after the voucher agreementI alluded to above. Hey, I'm all for getting free or very cheap stuff! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
Anyone had a play with the Asus micro laptop? Described here: http://tinyurl.com/ynnn9c It runs some form of Linux, has no HDD, just 4 GB of flash. Sounds ideal for travel ... but perhaps the 7 screen is a bit too small. Going for about $450 at JB Hifi and less on eBay. cheers rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services A polar bear is a rectangular bear after a coordinate transform. -- Anon. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 16:52 +1100, Rick Welykochy wrote: Anyone had a play with the Asus micro laptop? Described here: http://tinyurl.com/ynnn9c It runs some form of Linux, has no HDD, just 4 GB of flash. Sounds ideal for travel ... but perhaps the 7 screen is a bit too small. Going for about $450 at JB Hifi and less on eBay. I picked one up about a month ago, while they were still pretty much exclusive to Myer. The installed operating system is Xandros with icewm and a custom desktop interface. I can't comment on it too much because getting what I wanted out of it seemed too much effort so I installed xubuntu over the top of it in short order. But my one other (non-technical) friend who has one absolutely loves the OS. It's small and light and fairly awesome. The keyboard feels slightly cramped (the right shift key irritates me no end). The screen resolution is 1024x600. Again, a little getting used to (the wiki over at eeeuser.com has a lot of tips for small themes and trimming a lot of vertical space from firefox and the like), but I personally think it's pretty good for things like web browsing. For the price, I think it's a great machine. If anybody wants to have a poke at it, I'm planning on turning up at the next SLUG meeting. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The screen resolution is 1024x600. All the doco says 800×480?? -- Regards, Martin Martin Visser -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
There were dozens at LCA last month - geek envy abounded. They seem very solid. The Linux Action Show guys did a pretty thorough review in their latest podcast - http://www.linuxactionshow.com They are quite amenable to installing other distros if you don't like the default ( boot off a SD card if you want) Compiz apparently works a treat. It seems this form factor (and capability) is neatly filling the gap between regular notebooks and PDAs that tablets and UMPC have failed to fill. I'd be pretty confident that they other main vendors will be quickly trying to come up with competition. (And no, even though I work for one of them - I have no inside knowledge - I have only been watching the public ruminations) On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone had a play with the Asus micro laptop? Described here: http://tinyurl.com/ynnn9c It runs some form of Linux, has no HDD, just 4 GB of flash. Sounds ideal for travel ... but perhaps the 7 screen is a bit too small. Going for about $450 at JB Hifi and less on eBay. cheers rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services A polar bear is a rectangular bear after a coordinate transform. -- Anon. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Regards, Martin Martin Visser -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008, Martin Visser wrote: There were dozens at LCA last month - geek envy abounded. They seem very solid. The Linux Action Show guys did a pretty thorough review in their latest podcast - http://www.linuxactionshow.com They are quite amenable to installing other distros if you don't like the default ( boot off a SD card if you want) Compiz apparently works a treat. It seems this form factor (and capability) is neatly filling the gap between regular notebooks and PDAs that tablets and UMPC have failed to fill. I'd be pretty confident that they other main vendors will be quickly trying to come up with competition. (And no, even though I work for one of them - I have no inside knowledge - I have only been watching the public ruminations) I like them. Its going to be my eventual replacement of my old sony picturebook, which exists in the same form factor. That form factor is surprisingly useful in all kinds of places. Now, if only you could fold the screen all the way back over the keyboard and read books on it.. :) Adrian -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 18:14 +1100, Martin Visser wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The screen resolution is 1024x600. All the doco says 800×480?? Sorry, brain fart. It is indeed 800x480. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Asus Eee 4G 7 Micro Laptop
On 2/22/08, Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It runs some form of Linux, has no HDD, just 4 GB of flash. Sounds ideal for travel ... but perhaps the 7 screen is a bit too small. Ive owned one since Early January and I've never really found screen size to be an issue, was great when i was in Melbourne On 2/22/08, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The screen resolution is 1024x600. All the doco says 800×480?? The I can confirm the screen resolution is 800x480 I brought mine to the last SLUG meeting and had many people poke at it and I will do the same this month (feel free to ask any questions about it and I will try my best to answer them) -- Harrison Conlin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
