[SLUG] RE[SLUG]Setting Up a Website
Hey sluggers Thanks for all the help and info Ive printed the whole lot off and I will be forwarding it all with my comments. * Ive been replacing the old PII Machines in the office (Win 98 Office 97 outlandish virus exporter etc) So my total cost now to change each PC is $986 for a Red Hat 8.0 machine P4 256DDR Intel Mobo 40 gig HDD GF 2 MX 64mb DVD/CD-RW. I rang IBM yesterday asked for a PC and just for fun IBM REP PC sorry we don't sell a machine without an operating system.. ME OK whats the list of operating systems. IBM REP Windows Windows and Windows ME Wow sparky thats a big range of OS's you, so you basically have a list in front of you and it has all these PC's with Windows on it and nothing else like lets see Linux.. IBM REP.pause as he thinks...Yes ME Ooh so you expect me to pay for a machine with software I don't want.. IBM REP eeer Yes. ME good luck click Next 3 companies I rang were happy not to have to sell me a machine with Windows on it. PS Isn't it funny when someone rings you up and says don't open an email Ive just sent you it has a virus in it... Me ...oooh you mean this email let me open it Friend .ooh no your machine is now infected ME Really.and what do I run as an OS. Friend (pause) Lin..Lin Linux..so now your going to tell me it hasn't infected your PC because you have Linux..your worse than my sister with her stupid Apple machine..I hate people like you ME so you sent the same email to your sister and she said the same Friend Yes she poked fun at me too Ive been calling everyone in my contacts list.. ME so what did we learn from this Friend ... you and my sister are both smartarse's ME so your going to format your hard disk and update huh Friend... No stuff that I'm getting an iMAC Me trying not to laugh but not succeeding . And so Unix marches on... Regards Richard Neal -- * Hey if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something * * stupid, then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things! * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Hello Today I was asked for help by a a total none technical person how do I put my company one the web. Basically he wants to just have a simple website with a map who/where they are what they do and an email link etc. Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of you have your own websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. Regards Richard Neal -- * Hey if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something * * stupid, then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things! * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Plug for a friend http://www.quost.com.au $11 a month or $110 for a year for decent hosting on either 2k or Linux. There is also a section on there to register a domain as part of the sale and .com, .net and .org are $25 a year (all prices $au). Cheap dialup would be TPG for the sydney area $17 a month unlimited usage or you could choose an hourly rate plan but $17 a month ensures no suprises. Cheers, Paul - Original Message - From: Richard Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:04 PM Subject: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website Hello Today I was asked for help by a a total none technical person how do I put my company one the web. Basically he wants to just have a simple website with a map who/where they are what they do and an email link etc. Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of you have your own websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. Regards Richard Neal -- * Hey if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something * * stupid, then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things! * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[OT] Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 23:04, Richard Neal wrote: 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. I have used http://www.digitalspace.net/domain/ but I think www.NetRegistry.com.au have even cheaper .com domains now. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. I am currently using http://www.digitalspace.net as they have an incredibly cheap starter site (USD3) per month!!! With email. -- ** * Simon Wong * ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Quoting Richard Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of you have your own websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. If you wanted it on the cheap, you need someone to host the zone files of your domain, aka act as a nameserver. I recommend you go sign up with www.zoneedit.com, and put your zone files with them. It costs nothing at first, and you could easily continue to use it with no costs, assuming your zone files don't consume lots of hits, thus using tokens which they give you about 3 for nothing. I've had my account for about 2-3 years and still not had to pay. Then I'd go rego the domain ( price varies depending on if you want a .net/org/com.au or .net/org/com) and you'd then be prompted what nameserver will host the domain. Input the domain servers for which zoneedit.com allocated to your zone/domain you created. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. Now for hosting the domain, I recommend you just go to your local isp dialup provider, who gives you an account with say 10mb or more webspace with any dialup plan. Not to mention probably ~ 5 pop accounts too. Jump back onto zoneedit, logon and create a www.mydomain.com (and mydomain.com) redirection to your isp webspace.. ie.. heimic.net - homepages.pacific.net.au/~michaelf/ www.heimic.net - homepages.pacific.net.au/~michaelf/ And then just upload your html for the domain to your ISP webspace. As for emails, create aliases on zoneedit.com account and redirect them to anywhere. Maybe some redirections to your pop accounts you got created on your isp dialup account, or yahoo/hotmail.com etc.. Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. So at the end of the day... www.mydomain.com in browser redirects to the html sitting on your isp webspace, which you get with your dialup account. And any email aliases like [EMAIL PROTECTED] should redirect to say one of the pop accounts you get with your isp account. Very simple, and cheap. Although you won't be able to usual do anything real fancy with your webpages, ie php, mysql backend etc.. But for straight html showing what the company does and some pics... no problem. Good luck Regards Richard Neal -- * Hey if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something * * stupid, then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things! * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Richard Neal wrote: Today I was asked for help by a a total none technical person how do I put my company one the web. Basically he wants to just have a simple website with a map who/where they are what they do and an email link etc. Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of you have your own websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. Get an ISP and get them to arrange getting the domain name for them and delegating it. Then they dont have to worry about anything complicated. Eg for Jills parents that have a small business they just went to an ISP (http://www.triode.net.au and lists of their customers here http://www.triode.net.au/homepage.html) and got a domain (rowlingstock.com.au), and a web site up and running easy. Jill did the web pages for them. (http://www.rowlingstock.com.au) Let the ISP do the technical stuff for them. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. When we were helping Jills parents get a site up we spoke to the person who runs triode on the phone and they were easy to deal with so we later went with triode for our own dialup and web site hosting although we had our own domain name that we arranged ourselves. (Triode run on RedHat Linux and its a small ISP. Support the little-uns before they get bought out :-) Mike -- Mike Lake Uni of Technol., Sydney UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
There are a number of issues with this to consider: 1. Do you want the cheapest solution where some parts are DIY? 2. Do you want it all just done for you where $$ isn't necessarilary a major factor? 3. Do you want just simple HTML and maybe Frontpage support or do you want support for cgi/php/asp/jsp/db's etc etc? 4. Do you want it hosted locally or isn't that a factor? 5. Do you know what you are doing or will you require reliable friendly support? 6. Do you want full control over say configuring your mail accounts or zone files? 7. Is the service required business critical or is say 99% uptime ok? There are other things but I'd assume this covers off about 95% of requirements. From my experience in webhosting (running a large webhosting operation) I'd say most people want a combination of the above. The steps I'd suggest are below: 1. Select the domain name you'd like. Do you want a domain in .au space or do you want a .com, .net or .org domain (or other type). 2. If it's a com/net/org register it yourself through somewhere like http://www.godaddy.com/ and register directly for about 1/3 the cost that any local provider will supply at. 3. If you want a .au domain goto http://www.ausregistry.com.au/ there you'll find a list of local registrars, prices vary wildly, do a little research. If you want a .au domain you'll need to be eligable for it and will need to supply these details at the time of application. 4. Once you have your domain name, select a host based on the questions above. You'll find some places like GoDaddy (and in fact NetRegistry) will offer hosting services at time of registration. This is a factor to consider for those who enjoy billing consolidation etc. If you've got more questions, I'm happy to answer them. Regards Brett Fenton : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of : Michael Lake : Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 11:05 AM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Richard Neal : Subject: Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website : : : Richard Neal wrote: : Today I was asked for help by a a total none technical : person how do I : put my company one the web. : Basically he wants to just have a simple website with a : map who/where : they are what they do and an email link etc. : Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of : you have your own : websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. : : 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a : domain name and who : with and how much is it. : : Get an ISP and get them to arrange getting the domain name : for them and : delegating it. Then they dont have to worry about anything : complicated. : Eg for Jills parents that have a small business they just : went to an ISP : (http://www.triode.net.au and lists of their customers here : http://www.triode.net.au/homepage.html) and got a domain : (rowlingstock.com.au), and a web site up and running easy. : Jill did the : web pages for them. (http://www.rowlingstock.com.au) : Let the ISP do the technical stuff for them. : : 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple : web page/domain : name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how : much We will : also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. : Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. : : When we were helping Jills parents get a site up we spoke : to the person : who runs triode on the phone and they were easy to deal : with so we later : went with triode for our own dialup and web site hosting : although we had : our own domain name that we arranged ourselves. (Triode : run on RedHat : Linux and its a small ISP. Support the little-uns before : they get bought : out :-) : : Mike : -- : Mike Lake : Uni of Technol., Sydney : : : UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F : : DISCLAIMER : === : = : This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain : confidential information. If you are not the intended : recipient, do not : read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or : attachments. : If you have received this message in error, please notify : the sender : immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed : in this message : are those of the individual sender, except where the : sender expressly, : and with authority, states them to be the views the University of : Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please : check them for : viruses and defects. : === : = : : : -- : SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ : More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug : -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:35, Michael Fox wrote: Now for hosting the domain, I recommend you just go to your local isp dialup provider, who gives you an account with say 10mb or more webspace with any dialup plan. Not to mention probably ~ 5 pop accounts too. Jump back onto zoneedit, logon and create a www.mydomain.com (and mydomain.com) redirection to your isp webspace.. ie.. heimic.net - homepages.pacific.net.au/~michaelf/ www.heimic.net - homepages.pacific.net.au/~michaelf/ just one thing, you'll find most ISPs say that webspace is for personal use only. So a personal domain name is fine but I dunno about a company one, something to consider anyway. PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Quoting David Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: just one thing, you'll find most ISPs say that webspace is for personal use only. So a personal domain name is fine but I dunno about a company one, something to consider anyway. This is true. Well mine's personally, and I doubt they'd say anything anyways. Pacific have enough trouble getting back to people who provide feedback. PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. I've seen .com.au's for $77 for 2 years. I believe.. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 03:43:15PM +1100, Michael Fox wrote: PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. I've seen .com.au's for $77 for 2 years. I believe.. Namescout (www.namescout.com) has .com.au's for $59.99 for 2 years. Their support sucks, but if you can get away without it ... -G -- Open Fusion P/L - Open Source Business Solutions [ Linux - Perl - Apache ] http://www.openfusion.com.au - Fashion is a variable, but style is a constant - Programming Perl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re[2]: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Hello Michael, PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. www.gkg.net = $9.99US/yr MF I've seen .com.au's for $77 for 2 years. I believe.. www.namescout.com.au = $59/2yrs Still need at the minimum need an ABN thou... not exactly the hardest thing to get however... -- Best regards, evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: Re[2]: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
http://www.localhost.com.au/ has .com/net/org's for $16.50AU/yr, im on them and they seem just fine. Hello Michael, PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. www.gkg.net = $9.99US/yr MF I've seen .com.au's for $77 for 2 years. I believe.. www.namescout.com.au = $59/2yrs Still need at the minimum need an ABN thou... not exactly the hardest thing to get however... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
