Re: [SLUG] Setting up a spam email
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:13:10AM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:40:16AM +0900, jam wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 February 2008 08:07:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On Monday 11 February 2008 05:34:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I want to set up an email address where for my domain, were users can > > > > > send spam emails to and they will be added to the spam DB. > [snip] > > > u it very simple, not convoluted at all: > > > > Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets vetted > > > > It is delivered, sent to maybe or sent to amspam > > > > every user can accept their mail, or (mailer dependant eg kmail == button) > > bounce the mail to user amspam. They can even troll, usually via webmail, > > Not sure if we are talking about the same thing (might be but I am not > getting > it). > > I run exim on my server to handle my mail domain > > I use the linkage between exim and spamassassin to identify spam at USER & > DATA > steps of the smtp connection. This spamassassin runs as spamassassin > > Then when an email say [EMAIL PROTECTED] comes in for me. exim delivers it > via > procmail which run spamassassin again but with my DB instead of the system > wide > one. I have folder setup > .Ham - a cron job checks in her for email that should be not marked as > spam > > .MarkedSpam - this is where the automatically marked spam mail ends up > > .Spam - this is where I place the spam that did not got automatically marked > as > spam, again a cron job looks at this. > > > I would like to be able to take mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (presume it did > not get > auto marked as spam) and not only add its information to my spamassassin db > but > to add it to the system wide DB. I thought about have an email address that > I > could bounce (mutt bounce) messages to. But the email will look like it came > from me (i think) and thus taint the system wide DB > > I believe what you have described is what I am doing currently, but not what > I > am trying to extend to - updating the system wide DB did another google and found this http://www.stearns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html#sitewide which shows how to strip of the headers which was the key > > > maybe. Any real mail found in maybe is bounced to amnot. > > > > In my specific case mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] was tagged as spam so 303 > > was > > whitelisted. > > > > If you are not running your mail server, surely your upstream provider does > > the dirty work? > [snip] > > > hmmm seems to work :-) > > James > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > > > -- > God helps them that help themselves. > -- Benjamin Franklin, "Poor Richard's Almanac" > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- "So thank you for reminding me about the importance of being a good mom and a great volunteer as well." - George W. Bush 01/05/2004 St. Louis, MO signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Setting up a spam email
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:40:16AM +0900, jam wrote: > On Tuesday 12 February 2008 08:07:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Monday 11 February 2008 05:34:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I want to set up an email address where for my domain, were users can > > > > send spam emails to and they will be added to the spam DB. [snip] > u it very simple, not convoluted at all: > > Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets vetted > > It is delivered, sent to maybe or sent to amspam > > every user can accept their mail, or (mailer dependant eg kmail == button) > bounce the mail to user amspam. They can even troll, usually via webmail, Not sure if we are talking about the same thing (might be but I am not getting it). I run exim on my server to handle my mail domain I use the linkage between exim and spamassassin to identify spam at USER & DATA steps of the smtp connection. This spamassassin runs as spamassassin Then when an email say [EMAIL PROTECTED] comes in for me. exim delivers it via procmail which run spamassassin again but with my DB instead of the system wide one. I have folder setup .Ham - a cron job checks in her for email that should be not marked as spam .MarkedSpam - this is where the automatically marked spam mail ends up .Spam - this is where I place the spam that did not got automatically marked as spam, again a cron job looks at this. I would like to be able to take mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (presume it did not get auto marked as spam) and not only add its information to my spamassassin db but to add it to the system wide DB. I thought about have an email address that I could bounce (mutt bounce) messages to. But the email will look like it came from me (i think) and thus taint the system wide DB I believe what you have described is what I am doing currently, but not what I am trying to extend to - updating the system wide DB > maybe. Any real mail found in maybe is bounced to amnot. > > In my specific case mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] was tagged as spam so 303 was > whitelisted. > > If you are not running your mail server, surely your upstream provider does > the dirty work? [snip] > hmmm seems to work :-) > James > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- God helps them that help themselves. -- Benjamin Franklin, "Poor Richard's Almanac" signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Setting up a spam email
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 08:07:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Monday 11 February 2008 05:34:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I want to set up an email address where for my domain, were users can > > > send spam emails to and they will be added to the spam DB. > > > > > > I use debian, exim and spamassassin. All my spam processing gets done > > > as user spamassassin, so I thought I could just process all mails sent > > > to spamassassin as spam with a procmail rule like > > > > > > # > > > # Record it as spam > > > > > > :0 fw > > > : > > > | /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam > > > > > > but then I realised how do I get it to ignore the senders address > > > (because it will be one of my addresses and I don't when then > > > blacklisted ?) > > > > > > > > > how do other people setup site wide spam addresses > > > > You really need to R.M there is much about this topic ... > > Maybe I am reading it wrongly but I think I do this already for a user > specific spamassassion DB > > I wanted to have a spamassassin DB setup for the entire domain, that is > used by exim at time of delivery, currently exim calls spamassassin as > userid spamassassin. I don't want to give this account rights to all the > maildirs. I would like for user a b & c to be able to forward mail to an > email address (not a location because they might not have file access). I > want this mail address to take the mail as spam and then processes into the > userid spamassassin's spamassassin DB > > > I run 3 accounts (not) called > > > > amspam > > amnot > > maybe > > I am presuming this is are not different email;s and by bouncing you are > not talking about using smtp to move between accounts > > > All spam that is received is *bounced* to amspam > > > > Everything tagged as spam gets sent to maybe > > Not Spam in maybe gets bounced to amnot > > > > cron.daily runs a 'bayesian' task to learn amspam and amnot > > Bouncing is different for each mail client. See > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BayesInSpamAssassin?highlight=%28baye > >sian%29 u it very simple, not convoluted at all: Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets vetted It is delivered, sent to maybe or sent to amspam every user can accept their mail, or (mailer dependant eg kmail == button) bounce the mail to user amspam. They can even troll, usually via webmail, maybe. Any real mail found in maybe is bounced to amnot. In my specific case mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] was tagged as spam so 303 was whitelisted. If you are not running your mail server, surely your upstream provider does the dirty work? A quick browse of maybe shows: Johnnie Dominguez 8:01 am + BenitoMacroErectileorgan Benae Maor 7:24 am + Amaze the girls with your powerful tool. margo linder6:37 am + Your tool deserves some sharpening. Eddie Ratliff 5:17 am + King-sizedPhallusErika cibyl Quail 4:05 am + Your instrument will bring great joy to ladies. Jennifer P. 2:20 am + I apologize for contacting you right now RESPeRATE 12:06 am+ Join the RESPeRATE Club Best of SparkPeople Mon, 9:44 pm+ A healthy diet for your children Jiri TozziJrMon, 8:30 pm+ You and your partner will have many magical moments wi... Australian Lottery Mon, 8:14 pm+ Your Lucky Day Debra Woolgar Mon, 7:11 pm+ FW: CAKE OR BED - Love This!! Amanda Schutte Mon, 6:41 pm+ Nexus - Cockburn Central - Coming Soon SparkPeople Recipe of the Day Mon, 6:08 pm+ Sweet and moist Applesauce Carrot Cake Clifton weise Mon, 5:59 pm+ Jessica loves riding me now that my longer pen1s can p... SparkPeople's Healthy Reflections Mon, 5:17 pm+ Struggling to find your voice Randolph Hopenhayn Mon, 2:22 pm+ Click here for Guaranteed Growth. prisca omar Mon, 12:47 pm + Dearest One, aras Chepil Mon, 11:05 am + Discover a new method of enlarging your p3nis never se... Lonely Wives Dating Network Mon, 7:52 am+ Married women looking to meet new people - sexually ... Porfirio Benson Mon, 7:23 am+ Save on Top Designer Brands Shoes Uggs Gucci Chanel Pr ...ahed Maydew Mon, 7:09 am+ Being normal is not good enough, you need a bigger ... Reggie Mcelroy Mon, 6:24 am+ 60% Off All Luxury Designer Shoes & Boots Men & Women ... hmmm seems to work :-) James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Setting up a spam email
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:33:17AM +0900, jam wrote: > On Monday 11 February 2008 05:34:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I want to set up an email address where for my domain, were users can send > > spam emails to and they will be added to the spam DB. > > > > I use debian, exim and spamassassin. All my spam processing gets done as > > user spamassassin, so I thought I could just process all mails sent to > > spamassassin as spam with a procmail rule like > > > > # > > # Record it as spam > > > > :0 fw > > : > > | /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam > > > > but then I realised how do I get it to ignore the senders address (because > > it will be one of my addresses and I don't when then blacklisted ?) > > > > > > how do other people setup site wide spam addresses > > > You really need to R.M there is much about this topic ... Maybe I am reading it wrongly but I think I do this already for a user specific spamassassion DB I wanted to have a spamassassin DB setup for the entire domain, that is used by exim at time of delivery, currently exim calls spamassassin as userid spamassassin. I don't want to give this account rights to all the maildirs. I would like for user a b & c to be able to forward mail to an email address (not a location because they might not have file access). I want this mail address to take the mail as spam and then processes into the userid spamassassin's spamassassin DB > > I run 3 accounts (not) called > > amspam > amnot > maybe I am presuming this is are not different email;s and by bouncing you are not talking about using smtp to move between accounts > > All spam that is received is *bounced* to amspam > > Everything tagged as spam gets sent to maybe > Not Spam in maybe gets bounced to amnot > > cron.daily runs a 'bayesian' task to learn amspam and amnot > Bouncing is different for each mail client. See > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BayesInSpamAssassin?highlight=%28bayesian%29 > > James > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- BOFH excuse #227: Fatal error right in front of screen signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Setting up a spam email
On Monday 11 February 2008 05:34:05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I want to set up an email address where for my domain, were users can send > spam emails to and they will be added to the spam DB. > > I use debian, exim and spamassassin. All my spam processing gets done as > user spamassassin, so I thought I could just process all mails sent to > spamassassin as spam with a procmail rule like > > # > # Record it as spam > > :0 fw > : > | /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam > > but then I realised how do I get it to ignore the senders address (because > it will be one of my addresses and I don't when then blacklisted ?) > > > how do other people setup site wide spam addresses You really need to R.M there is much about this topic ... I run 3 accounts (not) called amspam amnot maybe All spam that is received is *bounced* to amspam Everything tagged as spam gets sent to maybe Not Spam in maybe gets bounced to amnot cron.daily runs a 'bayesian' task to learn amspam and amnot Bouncing is different for each mail client. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BayesInSpamAssassin?highlight=%28bayesian%29 James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Setting up a spam email
Hi I want to set up an email address where for my domain, were users can send spam emails to and they will be added to the spam DB. I use debian, exim and spamassassin. All my spam processing gets done as user spamassassin, so I thought I could just process all mails sent to spamassassin as spam with a procmail rule like # # Record it as spam :0 fw | /usr/bin/sa-learn --spam but then I realised how do I get it to ignore the senders address (because it will be one of my addresses and I don't when then blacklisted ?) how do other people setup site wide spam addresses Alex -- "I also understand how tender the free enterprise system can be." - George W. Bush 07/08/2002 White House press conference, Washington, D.C. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
