Re: [SLUG] mail blocking
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 06:59:35PM +1000, Simon Bryan wrote: Can anyone explain why I am suddenly getting these messages whenever I try to send to a bigpond user? (reason: 500 access denied; your IP is listed by rbl-plus.mail-abuse.org.) Since you say your Red Hat machine is connecting directly, it is likely that Optus's dialup IPs (all of them) are listed on the Realtime Blackhole List (or on the Dialup Users List http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul/). It is not uncommon for this to happen. The website states We accomplish this by preventing trespassing by mass e-mailers who offload unsolicited e-mail, aka: spam, using direct connections to their victims' mail servers without using their ISP's mail server as a relay or gateway. You should set up your MTA to relay mail to Optus's mail relay, which will not be listed on the dialup users list. -Mary. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] mail blocking
Thanks for that, it seems to have fixed the problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mary Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2002 9:18 PM To: Slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] mail blocking On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 06:59:35PM +1000, Simon Bryan wrote: Can anyone explain why I am suddenly getting these messages whenever I try to send to a bigpond user? (reason: 500 access denied; your IP is listed by rbl-plus.mail-abuse.org.) Since you say your Red Hat machine is connecting directly, it is likely that Optus's dialup IPs (all of them) are listed on the Realtime Blackhole List (or on the Dialup Users List http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul/). It is not uncommon for this to happen. The website states We accomplish this by preventing trespassing by mass e-mailers who offload unsolicited e-mail, aka: spam, using direct connections to their victims' mail servers without using their ISP's mail server as a relay or gateway. You should set up your MTA to relay mail to Optus's mail relay, which will not be listed on the dialup users list. -Mary. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mail blocking
On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 20:48, Mary wrote: Since you say your Red Hat machine is connecting directly, it is likely that Optus's dialup IPs (all of them) are listed on the Realtime Blackhole List (or on the Dialup Users List http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul/). It is not uncommon for this to happen. more than that: most places (especially ISPs) will block mail sent directly from dialup dynamic IPs. It's a pain when you want to try running your own mailserver (as I did, and found out). As Mary says, you have to relay via your own ISP's mail server or else get a proper static IP. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mail blocking
On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 22:18, David Fitch wrote: more than that: most places (especially ISPs) will block mail sent directly from dialup dynamic IPs. It's a pain when you want to try running your own mailserver (as I did, and found out). As Mary says, you have to relay via your own ISP's mail server or else get a proper static IP. It appears, however, that Telstra does not (yet) do this for their ADSL users, nor does their dial-up address range appear in the DUL, as my mail server seems to work just fine sending directly... Regards, John... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [SLUG] mail blocking
On 11 Jun 2002, John McQuillen wrote: On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 22:18, David Fitch wrote: more than that: most places (especially ISPs) will block mail sent directly from dialup dynamic IPs. It's a pain when you want to try running your own mailserver (as I did, and found out). As Mary says, you have to relay via your own ISP's mail server or else get a proper static IP. It appears, however, that Telstra does not (yet) do this for their ADSL users, nor does their dial-up address range appear in the DUL, as my mail server seems to work just fine sending directly... They do provide an SMTP server but it's a local address, something like smpt-server, which means you have to use their DNS - a pain. You could determine the IP address and simply use that but it might change without notice. Luckily as you mention, the adsl ranges haven't been rbl'ed yet but it's not really satisfactory. I want my IP address and I want it now - it's the main reason I continue to look around for an price competitive alternative. -=-=-==-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Graeme Robinson - Graenet consulting www.graenet.com - internet solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==---=-=--=-=-= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] mail blocking
On Tue 11 Jun, David Fitch made the following spurious claims: more than that: most places (especially ISPs) will block mail sent directly from dialup dynamic IPs. It's a pain when you want to try running your own mailserver (as I did, and found out). As Mary says, you have to relay via your own ISP's mail server or else get a proper static IP. Unfortunately some ISPs mail servers are rather unreliable... If you have that problem, you best bet is to find someone who will relay for you via, say, uucp. This is what I do and you'll never hear me moan about my ISPs mail server being down 8) -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net Send email with subject send key pub for public key. Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich by promising to protect each from the other. - Politicians and Other Scoundrels by Ferdinand Lundberg msg24200/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
