Re: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

2017-08-04 Thread Michael Cooper 
Thank you for the reply. I have 4 servers and 2 of them won't work so 
far because they are AMD processors, but it's fine. I have openstack on 
them. The other 2 should handle it fine. They are dual quad procs with 
32 gb of ram each with 2 500 gb drives. I just need to learn it because 
I am going to work for a company who uses it exclusively for managing 
their websites.


Thanks Again,
On 8/4/2017 5:20 PM, the outsider wrote:

Or just start with just SmartOS and http://datasets.at

SmartOS is quite easy to learn, you can always search for Solaris and the
things you want, because there is great similarity. (although some specifics
are completely different)
But I have servers running 25 SmartOS zones on HP G7 servers without
problems, even mixed with ubuntu and other linux zones. RAM memory is a
break point for installing more zones, so try to use hardware that has
possibilities to increase RAM al low costs.

Main problem with GUI's is that they will make your life easier until a
certain point and then you need to dive into the commandline. And since you
always used the GUI you are not familiar with the commandline commands and
then the learning curve is a steep hill to climb. Especially because the
moment you need to dive in is in error situations where you have little time
to learn.

Biggest fun I had was last year when Microsoft announced their nano servers.
It is a copy of the solaris / SmartOS idea and the containerized way of
handling virtual machines was the reason I started using solaris 10 years
ago.

We run SmartOS on HP and DELL server hardware, but also on micro PC's with
IntelR AtomT E3845 1.91GHz SoC CPU. It had 2 zones, 1 with MySQL and the
other with a JAVA webserver and OpenJDK8 which ran very nice. This micro PC
was a test, but was quite impressive to see the performance.


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Van: Arne Hoffmann [mailto:a...@fish.in-berlin.de]
Verzonden: vrijdag 4 augustus 2017 21:46
Aan: smartos-discuss@lists.smartos.org
Onderwerp: Re: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

Toens Bueker wrote:

Michael Cooper <mcoo...@coopfire.com> wrote:

Very New to SmartOS so far I really like it very much. I do have a
few questions though. I installed this on a usb and fired up a Dell
server every is fine with that. How do I add another node to this? I
believe the First Node is configured as the head node correct?

It seems, that you're looking for Triton (http://www.triton.org/)
which is basically an "application" on top of smartos
(https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live), providing services for
setting up a public or private cloud.


He might also want to look into Fifo [1]. Has some advantages and
 disadvantages.

[1]   https://project-fifo.net/




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RE: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

2017-08-04 Thread the outsider 
Or just start with just SmartOS and http://datasets.at

SmartOS is quite easy to learn, you can always search for Solaris and the
things you want, because there is great similarity. (although some specifics
are completely different)
But I have servers running 25 SmartOS zones on HP G7 servers without
problems, even mixed with ubuntu and other linux zones. RAM memory is a
break point for installing more zones, so try to use hardware that has
possibilities to increase RAM al low costs. 

Main problem with GUI's is that they will make your life easier until a
certain point and then you need to dive into the commandline. And since you
always used the GUI you are not familiar with the commandline commands and
then the learning curve is a steep hill to climb. Especially because the
moment you need to dive in is in error situations where you have little time
to learn. 

Biggest fun I had was last year when Microsoft announced their nano servers.
It is a copy of the solaris / SmartOS idea and the containerized way of
handling virtual machines was the reason I started using solaris 10 years
ago. 

We run SmartOS on HP and DELL server hardware, but also on micro PC's with
IntelR AtomT E3845 1.91GHz SoC CPU. It had 2 zones, 1 with MySQL and the
other with a JAVA webserver and OpenJDK8 which ran very nice. This micro PC
was a test, but was quite impressive to see the performance. 


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Arne Hoffmann [mailto:a...@fish.in-berlin.de] 
Verzonden: vrijdag 4 augustus 2017 21:46
Aan: smartos-discuss@lists.smartos.org
Onderwerp: Re: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

Toens Bueker wrote:
> Michael Cooper <mcoo...@coopfire.com> wrote:
> > Very New to SmartOS so far I really like it very much. I do have a 
> > few questions though. I installed this on a usb and fired up a Dell 
> > server every is fine with that. How do I add another node to this? I 
> > believe the First Node is configured as the head node correct?
> 
> It seems, that you're looking for Triton (http://www.triton.org/) 
> which is basically an "application" on top of smartos 
> (https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live), providing services for 
> setting up a public or private cloud.
 
 He might also want to look into Fifo [1]. Has some advantages and
  disadvantages.
 
 [1]  https://project-fifo.net/
 


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Re: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

2017-08-04 Thread Arne Hoffmann 
Toens Bueker wrote:
> Michael Cooper  wrote:
> > Very New to SmartOS so far I really like it very much. I do have a few
> > questions though. I installed this on a usb and fired up a Dell server
> > every is fine with that. How do I add another node to this? I believe
> > the First Node is configured as the head node correct?
> 
> It seems, that you're looking for Triton (http://www.triton.org/) which is
> basically an "application" on top of smartos
> (https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live), providing services for setting
> up a public or private cloud. 

He might also want to look into Fifo [1]. Has some advantages and
disadvantages. 


[1] https://project-fifo.net/


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Re: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

2017-08-04 Thread Toens Bueker 
de...@hyltown.com wrote:

> something tells me that triton.org isn't where we should be looking ...

Cut'n waste. https://github.com/joyent/triton is what I meant.
Triton.org seems to be available, though :-)

Kind regards,
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Re: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

2017-08-04 Thread Jorge Schrauwen 
Don't let the 64G number scare you, 

Depending on your performance needs it works fine with less, I had it
running slowish on 16G and pretty alright on 24G in a test setup. 

Regards 

Jorge

On 2017-08-04 20:40, Michael Cooper wrote:

> Yes I know, I already found that out you have to go to joyent triton to get 
> open source version however it requires 64 gb of RAM I have 4 servers with 
> only 32 gb of RAM so it's out for now 
> 
> On Aug 4, 2017 2:37 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> something tells me that triton.org [1] isn't where we should be looking ...
>> 
>> - On Aug 4, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Toens Bueker 
>> toens.bue...@lists0903.nurfuerspam.neuroserve.de wrote:
>> 
>>> Michael Cooper  wrote:
>>> 
 Very New to SmartOS so far I really like it very much. I
 do have a few questions though. I installed this on a usb and fired
 up a Dell server every is fine with that. How do I add another node
 to this? I believe the First Node is configured as the head node
 correct?
>>> 
>>> It seems, that you're looking for Triton (http://www.triton.org/)
>>> which is basically an "application" on top of smartos
>>> (https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live [2]), providing services for
>>> setting up a public or private cloud. There is a separate mailinglist
>>> for that sdc-disc...@lists.smartos.org
>>> (https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247449/sort/time_rev/ [3]).
>>> 
>>> Smartos is the "hypervisor" used by Triton. If you want to get Triton
>>> up and running, you should probably start reading here:
>>> https://docs.joyent.com/private-cloud/install/download [4]
>>> 
>>> If you want to try out Smartos without Triton, you should probably
>>> start reading here:
>>> https://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Download+SmartOS [5].
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Toens
>>> --
>>> There is no safe distance.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

2017-08-04 Thread Michael Cooper 
Yes I know, I already found that out you have to go to joyent triton to get
open source version however it requires 64 gb of RAM I have 4 servers with
only 32 gb of RAM so it's out for now

On Aug 4, 2017 2:37 PM,  wrote:

> something tells me that triton.org isn't where we should be looking ...
>
> - On Aug 4, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Toens Bueker toens.bueker@lists0903.
> nurfuerspam.neuroserve.de wrote:
>
> > Michael Cooper  wrote:
> >
> >> Very New to SmartOS so far I really like it very much. I
> >> do have a few questions though. I installed this on a usb and fired
> >> up a Dell server every is fine with that. How do I add another node
> >> to this? I believe the First Node is configured as the head node
> >> correct?
> >
> > It seems, that you're looking for Triton (http://www.triton.org/)
> > which is basically an "application" on top of smartos
> > (https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live), providing services for
> > setting up a public or private cloud. There is a separate mailinglist
> > for that sdc-disc...@lists.smartos.org
> > (https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247449/sort/time_rev/).
> >
> > Smartos is the "hypervisor" used by Triton. If you want to get Triton
> > up and running, you should probably start reading here:
> > https://docs.joyent.com/private-cloud/install/download
> >
> > If you want to try out Smartos without Triton, you should probably
> > start reading here:
> > https://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Download+SmartOS.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Toens
> > --
> > There is no safe distance.
> >
> 
> 



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Re: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

2017-08-04 Thread dewey 
something tells me that triton.org isn't where we should be looking ...

- On Aug 4, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Toens Bueker 
toens.bue...@lists0903.nurfuerspam.neuroserve.de wrote:

> Michael Cooper  wrote:
> 
>> Very New to SmartOS so far I really like it very much. I
>> do have a few questions though. I installed this on a usb and fired
>> up a Dell server every is fine with that. How do I add another node
>> to this? I believe the First Node is configured as the head node
>> correct?
> 
> It seems, that you're looking for Triton (http://www.triton.org/)
> which is basically an "application" on top of smartos
> (https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live), providing services for
> setting up a public or private cloud. There is a separate mailinglist
> for that sdc-disc...@lists.smartos.org
> (https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247449/sort/time_rev/).
> 
> Smartos is the "hypervisor" used by Triton. If you want to get Triton
> up and running, you should probably start reading here:
> https://docs.joyent.com/private-cloud/install/download
> 
> If you want to try out Smartos without Triton, you should probably
> start reading here:
> https://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Download+SmartOS.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Toens
> --
> There is no safe distance.
> 


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Re: [smartos-discuss] Newbie to SmartOS

2017-08-04 Thread Toens Bueker 
Michael Cooper  wrote:

> Very New to SmartOS so far I really like it very much. I
> do have a few questions though. I installed this on a usb and fired
> up a Dell server every is fine with that. How do I add another node
> to this? I believe the First Node is configured as the head node
> correct?

It seems, that you're looking for Triton (http://www.triton.org/)
which is basically an "application" on top of smartos
(https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live), providing services for
setting up a public or private cloud. There is a separate mailinglist
for that sdc-disc...@lists.smartos.org
(https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247449/sort/time_rev/).

Smartos is the "hypervisor" used by Triton. If you want to get Triton
up and running, you should probably start reading here:
https://docs.joyent.com/private-cloud/install/download

If you want to try out Smartos without Triton, you should probably
start reading here:
https://wiki.smartos.org/display/DOC/Download+SmartOS.

Kind regards,
Toens
-- 
There is no safe distance.


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