[RCSE] Paging Fred Sage...

[Flying High]

Fred,
Contact me ASAP... or if anyone knows his contact info...
please send it.  I just sent a message to his last e-mail
and it didn't go through...  
Need to get in touch with him.
Thanks in advance,
Edgar
"The Soaring Junkie"



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[RCSE] unsubscribing

[Keith McLellan]

Thanks to all who pointed out to me that my email was formatted in 
HTML/RTF.  I thought I had my default set to plain text.  Problem is 
now solved and am leaving the list for the winter while I get my new business up 
and running (not enough time to deal with R/C of any kind for the next couple of 
months).  See ya all in Phoenix area in Feb.
 
Keith McLellan
Northampton, PA

Re: [RCSE] Florida Soaring, and voting

[Steve Meyer]

Hey it's about time for a new "Non Soaring topic".
Hey Jim, you going to place a couple of votes while you are down
there?  You should have enough time to establish residency. 
:-)  Hey vote for me too.
Here is the NEW Florida voting machine that the Democrats wanted so
bad.


At 10:53 PM 10/21/2004, James C Deck wrote:
   
I'll be in Longboat Key (near Sarasota) for about 3 more weeks and
wouldn't mind visiting any local soaring sites.  I'd appreciate any
directions.
    Thanks in advance,
    Jim
Deck

Re: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange

[Jeff Gortatowsky]

--- Ken Leamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It comes down to one thing.
> If you Ignore government and not pay attention to what they do or say, you
> lose.

exactly. And be it guns or R/C Sailplanes, it will be gone. Frankly I don't
own a gun... never have. But understand COMPLETELY the gun owner's postition.
We ignore our loss of freedoms, even if we believe a particular loss is 'fine
with me', at our own peril. And the limp 'you know what' lawyers we elect to
office will ban or restrict the 'easy stuff' like R/C Sailplanes long before
the hard stuff Mr China would have banned. Why? Why do we keep electing these
people? Why is there no grass roots effort to have a 'none of the above'
choice and make them select someone else?

Dumb Dumb Dumb. No matter what it is, guns, speech, privacy, chemistry sets,
rockets, R/C planes, R/C boats, R/C helis, , once it's lost it
takes 10 times as much effort to bring it back.

Mr China simply 'does not get it' and sadly never will. He sounds good. So
did Neville Chamberlain. Both would achieve the same results. :(

This is my one allowed RCSE post on the subject. :D

"Those that would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither." How true.

Jeff



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[RCSE] Florida Soaring

[James C Deck]

    I'll be in Longboat Key (near Sarasota) for 
about 3 more weeks and wouldn't mind visiting any local soaring sites.  I'd 
appreciate any directions.
    Thanks in advance,
        Jim 
Deck

[RCSE] Insecurity issues and R/C models-keep tics out of my shorts

[GordySoar]

Great day of soaring in Tullahoma today.  I started in Fayetteville 
early this morning, dense fog but no big deal since I was actually doing some 
work.
 
Weather report stated that it would burn off and turn into  a gorgeous 
day, which it did.
 
I flew with lots of buzzards from 10am till about 3:30pm.like Chuck 
Anderson, Fly'n Brian Smith, Kendall McDonald, Don Cleveland and Herb (code name 
Thumper).
 
Definitley a sun screen day.  Last landing contest was won by 
AVA-meister Fly'n Brian Smith.
 
As usual I was overall winner for the day, since I got to fly and you guys 
didn't :)
 
Gordy
Louisville tomorrow

Re: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange

[Ken Leamy]

It comes down to one thing.
If you Ignore government and not pay attention to what they do or say, you lose.
One day you go to your favorite field to fly and there is someone with a uniform
There to stop you you scratch your head and say what happened.
Well if you paid attention and stood your ground early when there was time
to do something about it. You would still be flying.

Don't believe me Look around and see how many rights are being taken away.
I myself have a Pool hall Bar that now because of  political
malfunction nobody is aloud to smoke in the building, so we have lost
50% of our business. Only 5 of us showed up to fight it. ( go figure )
So stand back, do not get involved in the political aspect and the few
of us left
standing ( pray that there is enough of us ) will have to fight alone.
And if only 5
show up to fight. Don't say a %(#$@& word when you have no place to fly
because you didn't want to get involved.

I love this sport I would realy hate to see it fade away because I
can't fly my cross country or scale sailplanes any more.
Try to keep a 5.3m scale ship below 500' Call that fun.



On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:11:58 -0400, Barry Andersen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a polite request to keep this sort of political rant off the
> exchange.  There's plenty of venues for this stuff.  Soaring should be
> a safe haven from politics.
> 
> Enough
> 
> Barry Andersen
> 
> >> Studying the NRA as a "political model" is not a bad idea<
> >
> > And why not? I love to hear the NRA bashers rant on about the effect
> > we have
> > on the government, our government. I and thousands like me ARE the
> > NRA. Just
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-- 
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Re: [RCSE] Anyone make an MS Excel set-up log sheet for the JR9303?

[Dan Kitching]

I can absolutely make one up, and I'll do a 
great/complete job of it.
 
Now, who wants to send me a 9303? Ch.58 
please.
 
  Dan
 
 

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  Thanks, RJ

[RCSE] Thanks-To all who sent me Ed's address.

[AMA3655]

Some times you guys are worth the price.

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[RCSE] anybody have Fast Eddies' address?

[AMA3655]

I need to contact Ed Franz. Anybody have his address?TIA - Rob Glover

[RCSE] Anyone make an MS Excel set-up log sheet for the JR9303?

[Richard_Jones]

Thanks,
RJ

[RCSE] Test

[ricefamily1123]

Sorry for the bandwidth.

--
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Rocky Mountain Soaring Assn
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Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange

[JIM EALY]

TWIMC
I am not sure that we can do (politics) that!  

Model Rocket jocks already need FAA, etc permission to schedule a meet. Fun
flying (legal) doesn't exist for them. And most rocket sites are not close to
where a lot of rocket jocks live. I am not sure why anyone would think that
glider flying in a few special sites is not going to happen to us?SOONER
THAN LATER! 

We fly too high. We are the RC group that will get hit first.(sorry) I cannot
fly at two local power fields who would love to have scale glider pilots.  They
have a "field use" provision that states no flights above 500 feet, nothing
really to do with AMA.  Power guys do spike above 500 - but we play for hours
up there. This was also true of 2 NJ power fields near Princeton when I lived
there.

Maybe we should not bash AMA - but we need to get their attention. But probably
unlike, some of our favorite bashees, they may just lurk, take detailed notes,
but not respond on line.

At a local meeting/reception with Maynard Hill  --- a modeler (in hind sight I
think he was) asked Maynard how they (the team) got permission to exceed the
AMA altitude restriction. 
I am not sure anyone got a clear answer - something about exceptions.

just a few thoughts..
Jim

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:56:34 +, "Albert E. Wedworth" wrote:

> Right On Crag!

Jim Ealy
Education by Demonstration
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Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange

[Albert E. Wedworth]

Right On Crag!
Go get um boy!
AL
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[RCSE] Help!

[Keith]

I'm not doing something right here in trying to unsubscribe from the 
list.  Can anyone just send my the commands verbatim?
 
Keith

Re: [RCSE] Clubs around Lompoc

[George Gillburg]

> Are there any glider clubs in or close to Lompoc Ca.? > > Maurice > I don't know if you would
consider it close, but there is the Pismo Beach Soaring Society.  You
could contact Dave Zucker or Norm Timbs.George Gillburg Bakersfield, California 
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Re: [RCSE] Cumberland fun fly

[Kerry Cochrell]

Announcing the 38th Annual SOAR for FUN on scenic Mount Knobbly in West Virginia near Cumberland, MD on 6-7 Nov 2004.Two fun-filled days of camaraderie and scenery that only mountain-top soaringin the Autumn can bring you! (weather permitting!)All are welcome, AMA required for pilots. Usually, both slope and thermalconditions are experienced. Electric self-launching/flying OK, wet power aircraftfor piggy-back or aerotow launching permitted. DUE TO LOCAL PAGER ACTIVITY, USE OF CH 23, 24, 31 & 32 NOT RECOMMENDED!!HQ Motel is Braddock Best Western Motor Inn, La Vale, MD. Ph 1-800-296-6006, ask for Group reservations, identify yourself as attending the Soar for Fun for discount.Other motels: Super 8 1-800-8000 local (301) 729-6265Scottish Inn (301) 729-2880Diplomat Motel (301) 729-2311Continental Motor Inn (301) 729-2201Oak Tree Inn (301) 729-6700 No food concession at the field. As in the past, edible and potable contributions to the "free lunch" table are welcome! (usually plenty to eat!)Flyer/map available on request. in pdf (adobe acrobat reader) format as e-mail atch, or send snailmail address for hard copy GOOD LIFT! Skip Schow AMA 143, LSF 166(V #46) Vienna, VA 
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RE: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange

[Howard Mark]

Martin,

I've only seen speculation here - no facts at all. 
I'm not aware that anyone has presented any empirical data supporting the notion that 
the government is disabling RC aircraft. 

Mark





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To: RCSE
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange

>Soaring should be a safe haven from politics.

We can't ignore politics because unfortunately it won't ignore us. I'd
wholehartedly agree that bringing in the NRA with all the baggage that
entails isn't at all constructive but at the other extreme just pretending
that government is going to look out for us -- or even care that we exist --
just isn't realistic.

This whole thread started because it appeared that someone out there -- some
mid to lower level official, not an elected politician -- decided that R/C
aircraft presented a sufficient threat to the well being of "important
people" that they could be disabled at will. Since we are now in a
security-oriented culture nobody will tell us what they're doing or why so
we don't even know for sure that this is happening and if it is under what
policies it was applied -- we don't even know who to ask and we're unlikely
to get answer sif we did. There are politics involved because politics sets
the agenda, the cultural environment, and its the only way we're going to
have any kind of input into this process.

Martin Usher

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Re: [RCSE] Broadband Over Powerline approved

[Doug McLaren]

On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 02:12:43PM -, tonyestep wrote:
 
| In general this is the case with any commercial product or service 
| that emits radiation. However, the FCC's intent in this case 
| apparently is to give power companies a free pass to radiate across 
| the entire 2-30 mhz spectrum, remediating their interference only if 
| those affected can win a court battle.

It's not *quite* that bad.  The BPL providers can only emit so much
energy -- and it's a pretty small amount, at least compared to our
uses.  If found to be emitting more than that much energy (which is
probably quite likely to happen) the FCC is supposed to make them fix
it.  And probably will, but it probably won't be easy to make it
happen.

Hams have been dealing the powerline produced noise for a long time.
How well it's dealt with depends on the power company in question --
some are really good, and some are bad and only do something when the
FCC or local PUC gets on their case.  And many don't have a clue what
to do, let alone how to do it ...

With BPL in operation, I'd expect a lot more of the `bad' ...

| (Actually, the present BPL specs probably wouldn't affect RC planes
| operating on 72, as no 72 mhz energy would be radiated by power
| lines).

Most systems being currently tested use 3-30 mHz.  But most companies
are considering extending the bandwidth to as high as 80 mHz to allow
increased data rates.  If BPL ever becomes popular, this is almost
certain to happen.  R/C is not `out of the woods' here, and I see
nothing in the recent FCC documents that restrict BPL to under 30 mHz.

| Despite all this, there will doubtless be some companies who will 
| try it, so a long battle lies ahead for those who oppose BPL. It is 
| very possible that some day the HF spectrum will be gone, filled 
| only with the buzz of radiation that would have been illegal until 
| last Thursday.

Well, the FCC regulations have always allowed emitting a certain
amount of noise, even in bandwidths allocated to other uses, and this
is nothing new.  BPL supposedly does stay within these rules (the BPL
proponents tried have the limits increased for them, but I don't think
that's happened yet) so the actual amount of the interference should
be small.  Alas, it's small compared to most things, but it'll be huge
compared to most HF signals that hams deal with, and utterly pervasive
across the entire HF band.  BPL is a disaster for HF ham radio.

However, I wouldn't expect BPL to affect RC usage much (even if BPL
goes up to 80 mHz) -- it might create a zone around the power lines at
the back of your field where it's not safe to fly, but I don't know
exactly how large this zone would be -- it might be so small that it
wouldn't be safe to fly in that zone anyways for fear of hitting the
power lines.

This would require some measurements of a BPL system in operation --
even if they're not going up to 80 mHz yet, one could probably
extrapolate by testing 27 mHz equipment easily enough.  I would have
hoped that the AMA would have already done this, but I've seen nothing
about this.

| This noise, similar to what you hear on your AM car radio when you
| tune between stations and race the motor,

To be fair, the noise doesn't really sound that much like what you've
described.  The videos at
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/aud-vid.html will let you listen
to it, if you wish.

| shall henceforth be called "Powell noise."

Cute.  Sort of like Santorum.  (If you've never heard of it,
http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/sodomy/santorum/, though it'll
probably offend some people.  You have been warned.)

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Re: [RCSE] keep politics off the exchange

[Craig Allen]

I have waited patently this week for this thread based
on ignorance and misinformation to die, but it seems
to have a life of it’s own!

Would you right wing anti-American Wako’s please find
another forum to express you hatred and ignorance
towards our country (USA) and it’s laws.

I hear there are plenty of places to fly in China :-)

Sincerely,

Craig D Allen LSF111

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[RCSE] FMA Receivers For Sale, Ham & 72mhz

[Edmonds, Terry D]

FMA Receivers For Sale

 

Quantity    Model   Frequency

  2    Micro
2000    53.3mhz

  2    Quantum
8    Ch-04    

  1        Fortress
2000    53.3mhz

  1    Fortress
2000    Ch-25 & Ch-34 (two crystals)

  

Make offer on any or all.

 

Terry Edmonds

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[RCSE] Cumberland fun fly

[vmax]

Would someome please send me the e-mail that went out about this a couple days ago.
Thanks, Terry

Re: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange

[Martin Usher]

>Soaring should be a safe haven from politics.

We can't ignore politics because unfortunately it won't ignore us. I'd
wholehartedly agree that bringing in the NRA with all the baggage that
entails isn't at all constructive but at the other extreme just pretending
that government is going to look out for us -- or even care that we exist -- 
just isn't realistic.

This whole thread started because it appeared that someone out there -- some
mid to lower level official, not an elected politician -- decided that R/C
aircraft presented a sufficient threat to the well being of "important
people" that they could be disabled at will. Since we are now in a
security-oriented culture nobody will tell us what they're doing or why so
we don't even know for sure that this is happening and if it is under what
policies it was applied -- we don't even know who to ask and we're unlikely
to get answer sif we did. There are politics involved because politics sets
the agenda, the cultural environment, and its the only way we're going to
have any kind of input into this process.

Martin Usher

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RE: [RCSE] "Paul Siegel Dominates F5J Electric Soaring...Again!"

[George Voss]

 

 

 

 

“…He
was busy defending his WORLD title in Arizona!…”


Actually it was in New Mexico.  I
was wondering when someone would post the top 3 of this event.  I’d also like to know what they flew
and what power packages they used. 
Anyone? 

RE: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange

[Howard Mark]

Kevin,

WHAT work with the FAA has Dave Brown done?  In his August article - (which should be 
required reading for ALL soaring enthusiasts) he tells of his trip to the FAA; a 
meeting in which he said he was shocked to discover that pilots regularly flew models 
higher than 400 feet! Reminds me of Captain Renault from Cassablanca:

Rick : How can you close me up? On what grounds? 
Captain Renault : I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here! 
[a croupier hands Renault a pile of money] 
Croupier : Your winnings, sir. 
Captain Renault : [sotto voce] Oh, thank you very much. 

Dave Brown participated in a record autonomous flight - then prohibited autonomous 
flight with an AMA safety rule! 
He has intervened to prevent new world records by at least 2 pilots I know by refusing 
to sanction flights into class A airspace or refusing record applications. 
He has NOT worked with the FAA in this area and he has left it up to the pilots to 
fight HIS fight with the FAA while he waits on the sidelines (sound familiar).

We deserve better.

Mark







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From: Kevin Sheen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:05 AM
To: Barry Andersen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange

While I agree with Barry's premise that partisan politics (while at the same time 
sheepishly admitting to contributing to it in the past) are best discussed elsewhere, 
it would be foolish of us to ignore the effect of lobbying efforts in our represented 
republic.

All three of the AMA presidential candidates mention working with various governmental 
organizations in their election statements.  While Dave Brown's work with the FAA is 
important I think that all three of them might be neglecting the source of some of the 
more recent temporary flight restrictions (another debate in itself), that being 
Homeland Security.  Large companies, organizations and other groups all hire lobbyists 
to ensure their interests are fairly represented in Washington (yet another 
discussion, money in politics).

I think the AMA needs to not only continue the efforts they have made recently with 
the FAA and others, they also need to expand it to keep us out of the limelight and 
keep those who might be crafting legislation educated about our activities.  I think 
this effort is truly non-partisan since it effects us all.

This is just a curiosity question since I don't know much about the AMA at the 
president and AVP level (the executive counsil):  Do the SIG presidents, TK and Jack 
before him, have much input in the AMA?  My guess is they don't since they aren't 
included in the EC.

One last item since I don't post much, did I miss the annual PETA v. KoB 
(Killers-of-Bambie) thread with obligatory soaring content of course?

Kevin








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[RCSE] DAW KA6 kits return along with others

[Ed Berris]

For those of you that do not already know, SkyKing RC Products has taken
over the production of many of the DAW EPP kits.  During the next few
months, we will be re-releasing the following kits:

DAW KA6 3 Meter - first deliveries at the end of November
DAW 1-26 2 Meter - first deliveries at the end of January
DAW 1-26 60" - first deliveries at the end of January
DAW KA6 2 Meter - This is a new kit - delivery date to be announced early
next year
DAW Dragonette - delivery date to be announced early next year

DAW's well regarded all EPP KA-6 3 meter kits will return to the market
beginning at the end of November.  This is a great aerotow trainer and a
fantastic and fun slope model.

You can see photos of the finished kit at www.skykingrcproducts.com

I will be accepting order in a few weeks.  My web site is not currently set
up to accept orders for this kit but it will be updated soon.

The cost of the kit will be $229 including shipping to the lower 48 states.

The first shipments will be at the end of November.  If you would are likely
to place an order for delivery at that time please send an e-mail so that I
have an idea of how many kits to produce.

Thanks,
Ed


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Re: [RCSE] Zoom zoom zoom....the sound of RCSD articles?

[Stephen Syrotiak]

Geeze Kurt; now everyone knows that! ;)
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Re: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange

[Kevin Sheen]

While I agree with Barry's premise that partisan politics (while at the same time 
sheepishly admitting to contributing to it in the past) are best discussed elsewhere, 
it would be foolish of us to ignore the effect of lobbying efforts in our represented 
republic.

All three of the AMA presidential candidates mention working with various governmental 
organizations in their election statements.  While Dave Brown's work with the FAA is 
important I think that all three of them might be neglecting the source of some of the 
more recent temporary flight restrictions (another debate in itself), that being 
Homeland Security.  Large companies, organizations and other groups all hire lobbyists 
to ensure their interests are fairly represented in Washington (yet another 
discussion, money in politics).

I think the AMA needs to not only continue the efforts they have made recently with 
the FAA and others, they also need to expand it to keep us out of the limelight and 
keep those who might be crafting legislation educated about our activities.  I think 
this effort is truly non-partisan since it effects us all.

This is just a curiosity question since I don't know much about the AMA at the 
president and AVP level (the executive counsil):  Do the SIG presidents, TK and Jack 
before him, have much input in the AMA?  My guess is they don't since they aren't 
included in the EC.

One last item since I don't post much, did I miss the annual PETA v. KoB 
(Killers-of-Bambie) thread with obligatory soaring content of course?

Kevin




At 09:11 AM 10/21/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Just a polite request to keep this sort of political rant off the exchange.  There's 
>plenty of venues for this stuff.  Soaring should be a safe haven from politics.
>
>Enough
>
>Barry Andersen


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[RCSE] Clubs around Lompoc

[mpodder]

Are there any glider clubs in or close to Lompoc Ca.?
Maurice
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Re: [RCSE] Security issues and R/C models-keep politics off the exchange

[Barry Andersen]

Just a polite request to keep this sort of political rant off the 
exchange.  There's plenty of venues for this stuff.  Soaring should be 
a safe haven from politics.

Enough
Barry Andersen


Studying the NRA as a "political model" is not a bad idea<
And why not? I love to hear the NRA bashers rant on about the effect 
we have
on the government, our government. I and thousands like me ARE the 
NRA. Just
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[RCSE] Zoom zoom zoom....the sound of RCSD articles?

[Kurt W. Zimmerman]

I've been reading this thread with great interest.  One thing that I've not
noticed is something that I do on a zoom.  On launch, I'm using a
full-camber.  When I'm about to enter my zoom, I not only take out the
full-camber, but I go into a full reflex.  My goal here is to get as much
speed built up (kinetic energy???)... Now, when I execute my zoom, I have as
much energy built up to maximize my launch.  I've seen the difference with
and without reflex in my zooms and I can honestly say that the reflex
improves the launch greatly.


As some of you have pointed out, it is best to experiment on launches to see
what works best.  I've gone out and killed a day just doing launches just to
see what works and what doesn't.  


Kurt



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Re: [RCSE] Winch line tension

[Eddie Smith]

At 01:12 AM 10/21/04, you wrote:
Eddie:
I would be very interested in knowing about the resistors that you have
used and how you wired them up.
Actually, IMO, the whole list would love to get this info, and pictures
would be worth a thousand words.
Thanks for sharing this.
Jack Harper
Houston Hawks
If you want to see the information on the winch that I built back in 1984 
go to my web page
at  http://www.users.on.net/camtech/eddie/index.htm
Remember that this winch was made twenty years ago and these days I use the 
Bosch motor
to build winches.
I only run two speeds now, setting the low power to a setting that allows 
the winch to drive
all the way up the line instead of pulsing when the wind is too strong.

Have a look and then get back to me with any question that you have.  The 
circuit diagram
isn't very clear but I can give more info on that if you want.

Eddie the Eagle 

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