[RCSE] F3J worlds.. Who do you want to win????
I'll have to choose Craig Goodrum, currenlty chewing my fingers to the bone waiting to see if he makes the fly offs. There after it will have to be someone from the South. David Hobby or Sven Zaalberg. Regards Mark The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. -- Albert Einstein -- Original Message --- From: Soaring@airage.com (Soaring) To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:24:25 -0400 Subject: Soaring V1 #11387 SoaringFri, 4 Jul 2008 Volume 1 : Number 11387 In this issue: F3J worlds.. Who do you want to win -- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:04:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Subject: F3J worlds.. Who do you want to win Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --0-718935986-1215147890=:83115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit First of all I think this is the year of the American Jr's... AJ McGowan has the highest score of anybody And the Jr' Team is in 3rd place :-) Then I have to root for Team NZ... How cool is it that Joe Wurts is not only helping tean NZ, but helping out JR USA team as well :-) Then it's David Hobby What a great person.,... Timed for me twice at this years IHLGF and never let on that he was two time world F3J champ.. How cool is that?? And had the nearve to ask him if he was any good at reading air :-) Dam I'm an idiot :- Now I have to use the Gordy rule about not saying anything bad about people.. Most of us were born with hand built Oly 2's or Windwards - Winfree's and work for a living and this is just a hobby to us...But some of us were born with Gold plated Supra's in our mouths and have nothing to do but fly toy airplanes and act like a BIG DICK Shit Did I just say that??? LoL :- I guess I did :- ))) And I hope they fail Craig. --0-718935986-1215147890=:83115 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit First of all I think this is the year of the American Jr's... AJ McGowan has the highest score of anybody And the Jr' Team is in 3rd place :-)brbrThen I have to root for Team NZ... How cool is it that Joe Wurts is not only helping tean NZ, but helping out JR USA team as well :-)brbrThen it's David Hobby What a great person.,... Timed for me twice at this years IHLGF and never let on that he was two time world F3J champ.. How cool is that?? And had the nearve to ask him if he was any good at reading air :-) Dam I'm an idiot :-brbrNow I have to use the Gordy rule about not saying anything bad aboutnbsp; people..brbrMost of us were born with hand built Oly 2's or Windwards - Winfree's and work for a living and this is just a hobby to us...But some of us were born with Gold plated Supra's in our mouths and have nothing to do but fly toy airplanes and act like anbsp; BIG DICK Shit Did I just say that??? LoL :-nbsp; I guess I did :-)))nbsp; And I hope they failbrbrCraig.brbrbr --0-718935986- 1215147890=:83115-- -- End of Soaring V1 #11387 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to soaring- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format --- End of Original Message --- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3J worlds.. Who do you want to win????
Dam I'm an idiot I think you pretty well hit it on the the head Craig, I could think of some other thoughts too. Happy 4th of July to all! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3J worlds.. Who do you want to win????
I would certainly rather see the entire world that reads this exchange see us being more kind and coming together better than to make this, and Craig's kind of remarks on a public forum. YUP.. Happy 4th to all. Brian Smith - Original Message - From: Marc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring Exchange soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3J worlds.. Who do you want to win Dam I'm an idiot I think you pretty well hit it on the the head Craig, I could think of some other thoughts too. Happy 4th of July to all! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1530 - Release Date: 7/2/2008 8:05 AM RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re:F3J worlds.. Who do you want to live
Craig, First of all it's Damn not Dam and to second Mr. Gellart's comments - Yes, you are. Secondly, while this forum doesn't suffer from a lack of forthright opinions, personal diatribes definitely don't belong. We're all impressed with your brush with greatness when Mr. Hobby timed for you but keep your personal opinions to yourself or your blog. Now back to this forum's regular topics, Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.....or I couild hae read the article in context:-)
Like watching grass grow in dry weather? I think not. No, even more boring than that, its more like reading the seemingly endless stream of mindless diarrhea like ranting by Gordysoar. Thank the Lord for a delete key. Happy Fourth. Cliff Lindgren P.S. Has anyone heard if the rumor that there will no longer be any glider racing at the Big Creek slope site true? I guess it's because of the serious accident that took place during the last Man on Man race sponsored by the Northern California Slope Soarers. I guess the owner doesn't want the liability. I've even heard flying of any type might be banned forever. What a shame. Just another wonderful flying site lost. I certainly hope the officers of the club and the Safety Marshall take a close look at their current safety rules before sponsoring another event. Perhaps the land owners of their home slope should be made aware of the past accident and the possible liability they are exposed to. I am extremely curious why the Hush, Hush attitude has been displayed by the NCSS. Couldn't the whole soaring/racing community benefit by their telling all and informing the slope soaring community about the accident thereby taking action to avoid the possibility of another serious accident? No, it would seem sweeping it under the carpet is NCSS's current policy. - Original Message From: Gordysoar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 9:53:18 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.or I couild hae read the article in context:-) -why are the people who have no interest or participation in e-soaring events on any level- Doesn't take a lot of thinking here. We are alotted just so many minutes of time to do our hobby each month. We chose to spend them doing the kind of flying we like...there just isn't time or money to focus on more than one thing. When E 'soaring' comps turned into motor wars...the soaring guys got bored...if we were interested in motors and their components, we'd have stayed flying electrics or glow. But we have no interest in motors, or even radios...its the soaring that has us hooked, thermals to be exact and the endless hunt for them. The guys interested in motors, got excited about LMR because it played into their interests...a chance to over power the other competitors. When the soaring guys like Bob got involved, the focus started leaning toward more difficult soaring tasks...and that bored the power guys. The few still involved (motor guys) are the ones who yelped the loudest when they assumed that the Zlog Alti Switch was going to butt into their 'powers'. IF they'd have actually read the article, they'd have seen that not one single soaring guy is interested in changing or affecting their 'hobby'. We are instead just looking at ideas for our possible doom (future of no winches, or land go set one up.) One more time thread mates, enjoy your LMR events, decide your own rules, have fun. Power up and enjoy. No contest rules need to even be considered for the use of a Zlog Alti Switch...no beepers or timers or anything else...because other than the test group that Jack is going to try this summer, there's no one planning on putting a motor in his sailplane soon. Why so little interest in Powered Soaring Events? Because soaring guys aren't intersted in motors, batteries, props and gear boxes...and motor guys aren't interested in thermaling at a contest...kind of like watching grass grow in dry weather ;-). Gordy Chicago on the beach tomorrow -- Gordysoar Gordysoar's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=12801 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886033 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Hello America! Stand By For News! DP is in the F3J World Fly Offs!
I have to tell you guys that I am sick todayI picked up a summer cold that's got me lower than I've been in a lot of years, but when I dialed into the F3j World site this morning...things got worse... Cody had taken a zero for landing out..and that slid him off the leader boardand I am totally depressed about it, because in all my time of flying, I have met some great guys, and some great young guys, but Cody is someone that I have come to respect on a level like my own son. He has consistently represented the best in all of the USA Soaring Community...so my heart goes out to him today... and I urge all American soaring guys to applaud Cody Remington and his work, performance and just plain class as a young man. And then I got happy, REALLY happy! The sun shone in to America's bedrooms ...DP is in the fly offs! While it would have been super to have all our seniors in the fly offs, I think its especially neat to have our own three peat F3B guy and F3J World Newbie Daryl Perkins make it! Despite equipment dramas and newbie (okay I get to tease him a bit here) jitters, his teammates managed to keep him focus'd ! I know that the guys in that group are fantastic fliers and I've been fortunate to meet some, even eat lunch with some at the Calgary Worlds, so I can tell you that each and everyone are guys who like to fly model sailplanes and have fun with their friends doing it. But they aren't the types to give a single second to any one :-). Applause all around for all out pilots and team members, they earned every penny donated. Excited and going flying in Chicago with TK and Jim McCarthy todayyou? Gordy **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
[RCSE] F3J worlds.. I was NOT born with a Gold Supra in My Mouth! --But I do have a big
. High End...and I'll have it out today...plus I'll be flying my Super AVA carbon converted to JR's DSM 2.4 system for the antenna arrangement I have set up the D Barker Sputnik extension array...four whiskers arranged around the circumference just behind the nose cone rim. Tobias of the German Team is flying a High End, so apparently has good taste too ;-). Gordy Now I have to use the Gordy rule about not saying anything bad about people.. Most of us were born with hand built Oly 2's or Windwards - Winfree's and work for a living and this is just a hobby to us...But some of us were born with Gold plated Supra's in our mouths and have nothing to do but fly toy airplanes and act like a BIG DICK **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
Re: [RCSE] Hello America! Stand By For News! DP is in the F3J World Fly Offs!
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to tell you guys that I am sick todayI picked up a summer cold that's got me lower than I've been in a lot of years, but when I dialed into the F3j World site this morning...things got worse... Cody had taken a zero for landing out..and that slid him off the leader boardand I am totally depressed about it, because in all my time of flying, I have met some great guys, and some great young guys, but Cody is someone that I have come to respect on a level like my own son. He has consistently represented the best in all of the USA Soaring Community...so my heart goes out to him today... and I urge all American soaring guys to applaud Cody Remington and his work, performance and just plain class as a young man. And then I got happy, REALLY happy! The sun shone in to America's bedrooms ...DP is in the fly offs! While it would have been super to have all our seniors in the fly offs, I think its especially neat to have our own three peat F3B guy and F3J World Newbie Daryl Perkins make it! Despite equipment dramas and newbie (okay I get to tease him a bit here) jitters, his teammates managed to keep him focus'd ! I know that the guys in that group are fantastic fliers and I've been fortunate to meet some, even eat lunch with some at the Calgary Worlds, so I can tell you that each and everyone are guys who like to fly model sailplanes and have fun with their friends doing it. But they aren't the types to give a single second to any one :-). Applause all around for all out pilots and team members, they earned every penny donated. *Excited and going flying in Chicago with TK and Jim McCarthy todayyou?* Gordy I would usually be out with TK and Jim McCarthy today also, but on a nice 3 day weekednd, I have to give the wife a little time. I'm really glad I picked today to be that day. Steve -- Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used carshttp://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507 .
Re: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.....or I couild hae read the article in context:-)
I think your post is a bit of BS and selfish too. Any accident that will most likely be subject to some form of litigation is never talked about in public. Also, safety practices... No matter what you do there is always the danger of a plane falling out of the sky and hitting someone. Every time someone launches a plane and looses control, runs the battery dead. they are rolling the dice with possibly killing someone. Those that were effected by this incident knew the risks involved. I am not involved with the NCSS, but I am involved with slope racing. This was the first time in a few years that I missed the ISR. The fact that an accident happened at an orgaized event is better than if it were a bunch of sport fliers. At least there was an AMA sanction, and all of the pilots had AMA cards and all of the safety rules were followed. So if you don't know the details, don't spread rumors and blow smoke up everyones behind. And don't talk down about those organizations that allow us to do what we love. Everyone involved in the incident, all of the organizers, have voluntarily taken on alot of personal liability. My heart goes out to first the injured, then the pilots, then the pothers involved. Thanks, David Klein if the rumor that there will no longer be any glider racing at the Big Creek slope site true? I guess it's because of the serious accident that took place during the last Man on Man race sponsored by the Northern California Slope Soarers. I guess the owner doesn't want the liability. I've even heard flying of any type might be banned forever. What a shame. Just another wonderful flying site lost. I certainly hope the officers of the club and the Safety Marshall take a close look at their current safety rules before sponsoring another event. Perhaps the land owners of their home slope should be made aware of the past accident and the possible liability they are exposed to. I am extremely curious why the Hush, Hush attitude has been displayed by the NCSS. Couldn't the whole soaring/racing community benefit by their telling all and informing the slope soaring community about the accident thereby taking action to avoid the possibility of another serious accident? No, it would seem sweeping it under the carpet is NCSS's current policy. - Original Message From: Gordysoar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 9:53:18 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Gordy- Logic without limits.or I couild hae read the article in context:-) -why are the people who have no interest or participation in e-soaring events on any level- Doesn't take a lot of thinking here. We are alotted just so many minutes of time to do our hobby each month. We chose to spend them doing the kind of flying we like...there just isn't time or money to focus on more than one thing. When E 'soaring' comps turned into motor wars...the soaring guys got bored...if we were interested in motors and their components, we'd have stayed flying electrics or glow. But we have no interest in motors, or even radios...its the soaring that has us hooked, thermals to be exact and the endless hunt for them. The guys interested in motors, got excited about LMR because it played into their interests...a chance to over power the other competitors. When the soaring guys like Bob got involved, the focus started leaning toward more difficult soaring tasks...and that bored the power guys. The few still involved (motor guys) are the ones who yelped the loudest when they assumed that the Zlog Alti Switch was going to butt into their 'powers'. IF they'd have actually read the article, they'd have seen that not one single soaring guy is interested in changing or affecting their 'hobby'. We are instead just looking at ideas for our possible doom (future of no winches, or land go set one up.) One more time thread mates, enjoy your LMR events, decide your own rules, have fun. Power up and enjoy. No contest rules need to even be considered for the use of a Zlog Alti Switch...no beepers or timers or anything else...because other than the test group that Jack is going to try this summer, there's no one planning on putting a motor in his sailplane soon. Why so little interest in Powered Soaring Events? Because soaring guys aren't intersted in motors, batteries, props and gear boxes...and motor guys aren't interested in thermaling at a contest...kind of like watching grass grow in dry weather ;-). Gordy Chicago on the beach tomorrow -- Gordysoar Gordysoar's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=12801 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886033 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be
[RCSE] Worlds :-)
I forgot to congratulate AJ and DP for making it into the fly-offs... What better day for team USA that on July 4th :-) And the Jr team... WOW WOW!!! WOW!!! Silver.. Now that's cool :-) Craig
[RCSE] A Day to Remember....Flying the High End....Truly a 'Pilot's' Sailplane!
Tom Kellevang, Jim McCarthy and I played with my new High End today in Illinois...the weather was as good as it can getnot too hot, strong thermal activity which kept a soothing breeze coming and made working the air a little challenging too. Big fluffy clouds with dark bottoms made visibility excellent too. TK was flying his new Icon2, and Jim a Pike Perfect...all of us on the JR DSM 2.4 systems I started the day getting my Super Ava set up again since I'd installed a DSM 2.4 system in it last nite in Jim's basement. Ground range said it wasn't the best install but no Holds so good enough for RES ;-). I began my day of soaring by hand tossing it into thermals, working it out, up and away, then doing it again...I was so happy to be on the flying field that I forgot how sick I was...and still am! I realized I'd over done it when I just about fell over going to pick up my plane! I took a break and then winched it a few times for maxes and decided it was ready and set. So out came my gorgeous High Endthere was a bit of drool from the guys, but I managed to wipe it off the plane and up the line she went. It is a launcher...very fast up the line with a really easy pop ping to vertical and a long wait till it finally hits apex. I worked on trims, mixes etc, then handed it over to Jim for his feelings about ...everything I'd set up. I flew it about 15 times I think for 10's and landingsworking on learning its landing pattern and speeds, stick positions, comps etc. I'm off using skegs for a while again, forcing myself to get control of the model again...so by the end I'd hit three 90+ and on my last This is the big one!I landed one second early with the nose nestled on my hat. TK flew Johns at the JR Aerotow and he flew mine too, we all agreed that this is a Pilot's Sailplane, it takes more piloting than most ships and that makes it a bit more fun than the high wing, high dihedral ships...and it rewards you for it. Its beers and steak timehope you guys are having a great Independence Day too! Gordy **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
RE: [RCSE] Hello America! Stand By For News! DP is in the F3J World Fly Offs!
Woke up this morning to find that Theo, Mike and Gregg didn't make the flyoffs. I urge all Australians to applaud their efforts. Then I got REALLY happy, as the sun shone in my bedroom window (it was raining yesterday) .. DH is in the flyoffs. While it would have been super to have all our seniors in the fly offs, I think its especially neat to have our own twice W.C. David Hobby make it! Applause all around for all out pilots and team members, they earned every penny they had to spend getting there. (Sorry Gordy ... I had to do it. I tried, but just couldn't help myself :-) ) Congrats to DP and good luck to him. I hope David or Sven take it out though. Aussie, Aussie, Aussie - oi, oi, oi. Klaus K Weiss Airsports R.C. www.airsportsrc.com.au And then I got happy, REALLY happy! The sun shone in to America's bedrooms ...DP is in the fly offs! While it would have been super to have all our seniors in the fly offs, I think its especially neat to have our own three peat F3B guy and F3J World Newbie Daryl Perkins make it! Despite equipment dramas and newbie (okay I get to tease him a bit here) jitters, his teammates managed to keep him focus'd ! Applause all around for all out pilots and team members, they earned every penny donated. Gordy _ Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507 .
[RCSE] See you at Soar's RES Event Tomorrow?
Hi guys, I'm going to head down to the Soar field near Bolingbrook tomorrow, they have a 2m, RES event and while I don't own a 2m any more, I have my Super Ava along so I'll be there with the boys having some fun in the sun. Light winds and not too warm temps. Gordy 502 727 9595 cell **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
[RCSE] F3J Worlds Got Interrupted, Bet You Don't Know Why!
Believe it or not its because they have 'perspective' ! Its a model airplaine contest... a hobby! They quit the F3J World Competition to give everyone a break ...and flew a MPX Easy Glider Contest! Yep one design foamies! That after the Prelims and before the Fly offsnot sure what or who was the result but you have to give the Turks credit for spirit! :-) Gordy **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
