Re: [RCSE] Migrating

2008-08-26 Thread Dennis
Hi Jim, I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the 
soon to disappear RCSE. I hope this will work out well to continue the fine 
work Mike has done over the last 10 years. Google Groups has done a great 
job with filtering spam and keeping the system simple to use. Please let me 
know if you have and further suggestions.  I'm sure there will be bugs to 
workout.


The groups homepage is:

http://groups.google.com/group/rcse

The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please tell your friends and get the word out.

Thanks

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org


- Original Message - 
From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: RCSE soaring@airage.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: [RCSE] Migrating


Here's something to consider when migrating to a replacement for RCSE. 
One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not 
cutesy-poo nam de plumes.  Let's continue that practice in what ever forum 
we wind up in.

   Jim Deck
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Re: [RCSE] In Memory of RCSE

2008-08-25 Thread Dennis Hoyle
I learned a lot over the years through RCSE, Great job Mike. I will miss 
it.


Dennis Hoyle

Mike Lachowski wrote:

The time is now for the end of RCSE.

RCSE has been around forever in Internet years, since the 90's.  I 
can't even remember when it started. Some of the online stuff goes 
back to around 1999, I know I have some stuff back to 1996 and that is 
definitely not the oldest stuff.


Posts to the list have gone down, mostly stuff about events that are 
happening out there.  There hasn't been too much serious discussion in 
a while and flame wars, well everyone has been civilized.


The equipment that the list is running on is aging and it's kind of 
hard to get excited about a mailing list these days.  RCSE has been 
around forever in Internet years, since the early 90's.  I can't even 
remember when it started. The computer guys at Airage want to shut the 
server down as soon as they can.  It's not too cool to be running a 
Windows NT server these days.  There are probably other security 
reasons to shut it down.


I don't have a shut down date for RCSE, but expect it to be soon.
So if you have any favorite memories, please post them to the list 
before it goes away. Maybe you can mention your favorite technical 
guru's discussion, flame war or Sal bashing.  And sorry, RCSE won't 
cover the infamous challenge by Lucas to Joe.


Thanks for the memories.


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Re: [RCSE] GLASS website

2008-08-14 Thread Dennis
I just found out that GLASS has a new website. 


http://www.glassrc.org/

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: RCSE 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:30 AM

Subject: [RCSE] GLASS website


Anybody know what happened to the GLASS website??? 

Joe 

Proud owner of three flying Falcon 880's 
One of Four Super Esprit Pilots 
LSF Level I 
Thermal Rider - The Original Nostalgia Pages 
Home of the Gentle Giants of Days Gone Bye. 
http://www.thermalrider.com 


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Re: [RCSE] GLASS website

2008-08-13 Thread Dennis
I talked to Richard Alban and the current club president (an electric flyer) 
doesn't think it's important.

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: RCSE 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:30 AM
  Subject: [RCSE] GLASS website


  Anybody know what happened to the GLASS website??? 

  Joe 

  Proud owner of three flying Falcon 880's 
  One of Four Super Esprit Pilots 
  LSF Level I 
  Thermal Rider - The Original Nostalgia Pages 
  Home of the Gentle Giants of Days Gone Bye. 
  http://www.thermalrider.com 



Re: [RCSE] DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERS....Early!

2008-08-11 Thread Dennis
Gordy's #53:

http://worldsoaringmasters.com/world-rc-soaring-contest/2008-pilot-roster.shtml

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNut
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Schneider 
  To: RCSE 
  Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 1:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [RCSE] DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERSEarly!


  Gordy,
  Have you signed up, or are you waiting for the last minute?


  On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi guys,
I have it on bad authority that those guys who sign up at the last minute 
will get better fitting T shirts!

The goal is 100 (you know like the movie 400...but less).

There are about 80 spots left.  

The top Turks are coming, it would be great to get Jojo back but we'd need 
to get him an airline ticket I think.
Might have some Aussies, Canadians, and even some guys from Illinios.

Sorry the top Olympic Volley Beach Volley Ball team is already committed 
elsewhere so its for surethey won't be there. :-(

So here's the dealif you haven't signed up yet, get your registration 
in!  Jim McCarthy is dying to get the registration done and locked...so help 
him out.

Be warned you will be flying against Louisville Soaring phenom, little Lee! 
(yes he is already signed up!)

Contact Jim McCarthy directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] via email if not with 
your registration, at least to let him know you ARE indeed attending.  That 
will help him and organizers make plans, they want this one to be everything a 
Masters event can be!  

Get away from the television and post him a note!

See you there!
Gordy






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[RCSE] WMSS 2 Meter Championships

2008-08-04 Thread Dennis

28th Annual Midwest, 2-Meter RC Soaring Championships
August 23  24, 2008 - Grand Rapids, MI

More info and signup at:

http://rcsoaring.org/contests/RC_Soaring_contest_2_meter.asp

* Awards for 1 to 5 for each day of the contest
* Two Day Overall Winner

Task: Seeded Man-On-Man (MOM) contest. As many rounds of duration and 
landing as can be done in the time specified. Landing is a 5' tape, 25 
points in or out. No re-launches for mid-air collisions in rule 7.2a.


Classes: Two Meter

Pre-registration is encouraged as we will let you know if your frequency 
choice is being used.


Equipment: Winches with ball bearings and charger assisted, winch retrievers 
will be used. with all new 250# line, line length 200 meters.


Entry Fee: $10.00 if pre-registered by August 15, 2008, $12 registration day 
of the contest. Payment for entry not due until day of the contest. If you 
do not pre-register be prepared to change to an open frequency the day of 
the event. AMA Sanction Contest.


Start Time: 10 AM Sharp! - No new rounds after 3:30 PM, Per CD's Clock. Next 
round starts when the last plane from previous round lands.


Contact Persons:

Saturday:
Cliff Browneye
(616) 949-4638
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sunday:
Cal Postuhuma
616-997-1905
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [RCSE] old posts

2008-08-04 Thread Dennis
That's an excellent theory, however, it could be that the some email packets 
passed through a worm hole in cyberspace and returned at the different time.


Dh

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] old posts



In a message dated 08/04/2008 9:56:03 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyone else receiving posts that are over 2 weeks old?
AJ


I've attributed it to an uprising deep in the bowels of the undergound,
nuclear hardened compound where RCSE posts are screened for their security 
threat.

All communications had to be shut down. I'm guessing that now that the
gatekeepers are back to keep their boots on the necks of the screeners, 
our stream of
important information might thankfully resume. Considering how bad it 
might
have been (recall the horrors of the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction or 
the

chaos surrounding Cat Stevens probe of our border fortifications) I've
realized that I must accept the reduced flow of sailplane information as 
being a

small part of my patriotic duty.

Bill Wingstedt



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Re: [RCSE] NATS 2008 - 2meter

2008-07-26 Thread Dennis Hoyle
There you go again, bad mouthing 2 meter. 2 meter registration is up too 
you know. :-)


Lets do two days for each... six days of flying is even better.

Sheldon Smith wrote:

Dave,

While I'd rather see more RES and less 2M...You're being really harsh
Dude!...'cept of course for the beer part! G

-Sheldon-
(also not at the NATs...Sigh)

-Original Message-
From: Dave Hauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:40 AM

To: S Meyer; Dennis
Cc: soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS 2008 - 2meter

hi,
think I have a solution for you guys on the 2 meter thing.

replace the 2 days of 2 meter with 2 days of horse shoes.
entrees would probably go up, and the guy with the concession trailer
could sell beer.
EVERYBODY WINS!  :-)

wish i could go, you guys have fun.
looking forward to hear about it all.

Dave
www.rc-builds.com



  
Uggg..   Don't remind me.  Only thing worse than a 2 meter contest is the 
2nd day of a 2 meter contest.  :-)


Looking at the numbers I think it is time to make RES a 2 day event and 
relegate 2 Meter to 1 day contest.

Wooohooo  I'm going to LSF Glider Camp.


Steve


Dennis wrote:

Oh Boy, it's almost here... the Nats! The planes are ready, I've been 
practicing and ready to go. The Bad Duck will make it appearance 
Monday.


Yah...

See you there.

Dennis Hoyle
2008 Nats Registrar

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Re: [RCSE] NATS 2008

2008-07-25 Thread Dennis Hoyle
There you go again Steve, bad mouthing 2 meter. 2 meter registration is 
up too you know. :-)


Lets do two days for each... six days of flying is even better.

Dennis

S Meyer wrote:
Uggg..   Don't remind me.  Only thing worse than a 2 meter contest is 
the 2nd day of a 2 meter contest.  :-)


Looking at the numbers I think it is time to make RES a 2 day event 
and relegate 2 Meter to 1 day contest. 
Wooohooo  I'm going to LSF Glider Camp.



Steve


Dennis wrote:
Oh Boy, it's almost here... the Nats! The planes are ready, I've been 
practicing and ready to go. The Bad Duck will make it appearance 
Monday.


Yah...

See you there.

Dennis Hoyle
2008 Nats Registrar

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[RCSE] NATS 2008

2008-07-24 Thread Dennis
Oh Boy, it's almost here... the Nats! The planes are ready, I've been 
practicing and ready to go. The Bad Duck will make it appearance Monday.


Yah...

See you there.

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2008 Nats Registrar 



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[RCSE] GLASS Contest MSL #3 (Lansing, MI)

2008-07-18 Thread Dennis Hoyle
I'm really looking forward the GLASS contest this weekend in Grand 
Ledge, MI just West of Lansing. They have one of the best flying fields 
I've ever had the privilege to fly at.


I hope to fly:

UNL
2M
RES

I hear the Gordy and Dave Hauch will be there, fun times ahead.

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
LSF III
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[RCSE] Johnny Berlin's 8 hour task

2008-07-13 Thread Dennis Hoyle
I just got a call from Harry and Johnny Berlin successfully completed his 8
hour Level V task today along the lake Michigan shoreline with perfect sloap
conditions and has now completed all level V requirements.

8 hrs, 1 minute, 20 seconds.

Harry De Boer and Ted Grossner witnessed the flight.

Congratulations Johnny!

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS


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[RCSE] WMSS 32nd Annual Summer Dual Soar-in

2008-07-06 Thread Dennis Hoyle

32nd Annual Summer Dual Soar-in
July 12 and 13, 2008
Separate Contest Each Day

Located in Sparta, MI just north of Grand Rapids.

Awards for 1 to 3 for each day of the contest

Task: As many rounds of duration and landing as can be done in the time 
specified. Landing is a 25', 100 point tape. No re-launches for mid-air 
collisions in rule 7.2a.


Classes: Two Meter, Unlimited, RES, NOS*

* Picture frame awards for NOS only

Pre-registration is encouraged as we will let you know if your frequency 
choice is being used. Click Here To Register Online


Equipment: Winches with ball bearings and charger assisted, winch 
retrievers will be used. 250# line, line length 200 meters.


Entry Fee: $10.00 per class entered. AMA Sanction Contest.

Start Time: 10 AM Sharp! - No new rounds after 4:00 PM Saturday and 3:30 
PM Sunday, Per CD's Clock. Next round starts when the last plane from 
previous round lands.


More info and sign up here:

http://www.rcsoaring.org/contests/RC_Soaring_contest_dual_soar-in.asp

Thanks

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
LSF III
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[RCSE] Nats Registrants FINAL

2008-06-23 Thread Dennis Hoyle

The final list of flyer's is now online:

http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2008/Register.html

The numbers are UP!

Dennis Hoyle
2008 Nats Registrar
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[RCSE] Nats Registration - Last chance

2008-06-13 Thread Dennis
Tomorrow, June 14, 2008, is the final day to register for the 2008 Nats. 
Attendance may exceed last year so get your apps in the mail now. RES has 
shown a notable increase with 86 so far.


The LSF website is updated:

http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2008/Register.html

Thanks

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[RCSE] Calling Ben Roberto

2008-05-31 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Ben, I'm entering your info in the Nats Matrix and need AMA, LSF, State and Zip.

Please send an email directly to me.

Thanks

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org

[RCSE] Nats Resgistration 2008

2008-05-31 Thread Dennis Hoyle
If you haven't done so already, please get your Nats app in the mail today. I 
updated the LSF website with the current registered flyer's.

http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2008/Register.html

and frequency allocations. Please check yours, I did make a couple of changes, 
first come first serve.

http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2008/Frequencies.html

Thanks

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org

[RCSE] WMSS Woody Contest June 2008

2008-05-19 Thread Dennis
Announcing the 2008 WMSS Woodcrafters contest. June, 21  22, 2008. This 
will be it's 3rd year and wow, if it's anything like the last two years, it 
going to be a blast. Once again Harry DeBoer will be the CD. The contest is 
for Woocrafters compliant sailplanes, must be hand built, cannot have a 
moulded d-tube wing contruction (AVA), no foam bagged or molded wings, but 
CAN have a molded fiberglass fuse (Sailaire).


There will be three events with awards:

* Ladder
* Longest Flight
* Best Looking Sailplane (one each day, judged by the contest officials)

More info and signup here: 
http://www.rcsoaring.org/contests/RC_Soaring_contest_Woodcrafters.asp


Hope to see you here...

Thanks

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[RCSE] Photo Submission for New LSF Website

2008-04-23 Thread Dennis
Hi All, I'm in the very early stages of designing a new LSF website. We need 
some great photos for inclusion and we're hoping we could encourage 
individuals and clubs to send us your best photos. I cannot guarantee we 
will use all of the photos submitted, but I will try. Also, we may use all 
or part of an image as a header or part of a montage.


Please do not submit copyrighted photos and understand that by sending us 
your photos you are agreeing that we can use them.


Please e-mail your jpeg, jpg images to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and try to keep 
the file size modest, 500K or smaller. I will empty my mailbox often to make 
room for more.


Thank you in advance...

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA SNUT
LSF 7847
Nats Registrar
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[RCSE] Official Thermal Alert

2008-04-20 Thread Dennis Hoyle
There is a strong potential for the formation of a thermals activity this 
afternoon.

This is an alert to the potential development of strong thermals and severe 
lift with moderate winds and sunshine.

Monitor thermal conditions..watch for updated statements. If thermal 
approaches..Take immediate action. Go to your workshop check the battery charge 
in your sailplanes, load them in your car and head to the WMSS flying field.

At 10:15 AM satellite and Doppler radar detection network indicate a cluster of 
severe thermals over West Michigan and east of Sparta, MI tracking to the east 
northeast at 5 to 10 mph. Another cluster of thermals is expected later this 
afternoon and will be accompanied by cumulus clouds. These thermals are capable 
of producing monster lift with vertical wind gusts near 30 mph..Be very careful 
that your batteries have a FULL charge as you can expect very long flights with 
a duration of over 1/2 hour. There is also a risk of facial sunburn due to 
solar radiation, as you will be staring at the sky for 
long durations. Be sure bring sufficient sun block for your protection.

This has been an official Thermal Alert of the WMSS.

See you at the field...

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org 


Re: [RCSE] Assembly Cradle

2008-03-12 Thread Dennis
Stan, I bought one of these plane stands recently. It mounts on the camera 
tipod. Works great:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636835

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stan Myers 
  To: Soaring Digest 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:23 PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Assembly Cradle


  Looking for plans that will allow me to assemble my sailplane w/o having to 
sit/knee on the ground(Arthur has visited me). I remember sometime back someone 
had something that that had a stake of some time driven into the ground and the 
cradle perched on top end of the stake. I'm flying both 2 and 3 piece wings 
planes. 

  TIA

  Stan


Re: [RCSE] Dedicated to Gordy!

2008-02-12 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Don you're just plain mean. The flying field at the WMSS is hitting -4 degrees 
tonight and when I went to work yesterday I passed through a region of -12 
degrees. 

Man I have the winter blues bad... ;-{

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: soaring@airage.com 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:35 PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Dedicated to Gordy!


  The sun beaming through the window awakened me early this morning.  A 
quick check on the computer confirmed that it was going to be another glorious 
day. So it was off to Poway.

  I stopped at the 7-11 and picked up some ice.  I thought that if I stuck 
my hands in the ice, I could get close to the feeling of flying in Louisville 
or Chicago!  It didn't work as the 77 degree temperature warmed my hands before 
I could launch.

  About three hours of air time in about 4 hours at the field with the 
Supra, Rogue 2.0, Blaster and E Blaster.  I only had a high start as the winch 
motor is being refurbished, but the Supra and Rogue did not seem to care.  
Thermals were plentiful with plenty of 10 minute flights and a few good 
landings.

  Another beautiful day in Southern California.

  And Gordy?

  Don Richmond





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Re: [RCSE] Club News Letters

2008-02-05 Thread Dennis
Something you might consider is an online news manager. The WMSS newsletter is 
published online. 

http://rcsoaring.org/

We alos email pdf's for the club members.

Dennis
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Klein 
  To: Jack Strother 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [RCSE] Club News Letters


  BTW, The Torrey Pines Gulls are in the process of scanning and digitzing our 
old club newsletters and posting them online at torreypinesgulls.org  Thanks to 
our club historian Gary Fogel our club historian.


  On Feb 5, 2008 11:04 AM, David Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Or rewritten by electronic records of Gody's old posts.  Oh my, what would 
the historians think.


On Feb 5, 2008 10:52 AM, Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Gordy,
  You again have hit on a pet peeve of mine, the club news letter...
  It is a must, for maintaining a history, (foundation) of any club or 
Organization, (read between the lines),
  Lest they , the clubs, dwindle to the sands of time, and history is 
rewritten by hear say and the incompentence of feel good politics

  oh darn, I almost started..


  --
  Jack Strother
  Granger, IN

  LSF 2948
  LSF Level V  #117
  LSF Official 1996 - 2004
  CSS Gold



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   (http://www.slnt.org/newsletters/2008_02.pdf)
  
   If you have been a reader of the Journal for RC Soaring Enthusiasts, you
   will understand how important the monthly club newsletter is to 
maintaining a
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Re: [RCSE] Tree story

2008-01-29 Thread Dennis Hoyle
At the WMSS we have an annual award called the Arboreal Award. This 
prestigious award is granted to the the skilled pilot that manages to land 
in a tree the most times in a single year. The award is a beautiful but 
unfortunately dead bonsai tree with a brass sailplane stuck in it. We did 
take time to spray the branches green to give it that living feel.


Here a photo of one of our members holding the coveted award.

http://www.rcsoaring.org/images/pics/Dual-Soar-in_2005/pages/100_1803.htm

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Tree story


Tree / Trophy story that happened back around 1976 (best guess) and I was 
having a very unusual year with trees. Landing in a very tall tree at 
Lansing, MI. straining an Aquila through a tree at Chicago at speed. The 
flying surfaces stayed in the tree and the fuse came out alone. There were 
more as I couldn't go near a tree that summer without an altercation.


The bottom line came in September in Detroit, at what was known as the 
SOAR / GDSHS
Dual Meet. One day sponsored by GDSHS and the other day by SOAR and as 
SOAR  was handing out their trophies, Dan Pruss called me up and presented 
me with a very unusual award.


The trophy was a very ratty log of wood with an even rattier old, beat up 
hand axe sunk into the log, all spray painted gold.


This was for capturing more trees in one season with a sailplane than 
anyone else. It was a very special award coming from Dan Pruss and the 
SOAR guys and I have lost it over the years but I still have a picture of 
the award presentation.


OK, who has their best tree story.

Regards, Dave Corven.




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[RCSE] RC Soaring Ground School

2008-01-19 Thread Dennis Hoyle
We have some new members that need some help understanding the aerodynamics of 
flying a radio controlled sailplane. 

When I was young, very young, I had the luck and honor to hook up with the 
local Air Patrol. They had a glider program for their members and I joined, 
went through ground school and trained in full scale gliders. The ground school 
helped me understand flight. 

I further studied slow speed aerodynamics in my last year of high school (1970) 
in an independent learning class. Both of these helped me when I started flying 
RC Gliders, so I was not afraid to do it.

I think that new flyer's sometimes feel intimidated by the the concept of 
learning flight and this inhibits their learning curve. I hope to create a 
ground school for new flyer's to give the a firm foundation before they start 
flying. We could also use it as a presentation at local hobby shops as an 
introduction to RC Soaring. This should be in plain english, not too technical 
so as to scare them away. 

I found some power ground schools but nothing directed toward RC Soaring 
specifically.

Does anybody have something out there?

I also posted the same message on RCGroups.

Thanks,

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS / Secretary
AMA #SNut
LSF #7847
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[RCSE] 08 Masters

2008-01-16 Thread Dennis
Anyone have any ideas when the sign-up will open??

Harry DeBoer would like to know.

Thanks

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS

Re: [RCSE] Re: Contest Format

2008-01-13 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Ray, I could not agree with you more. We simply have to do a better job of 
letting the public at large know we out here. How many times have you been 
to a fun fly or a contest and a random visitor says, I didn't know that you 
guys were out here. The more people that are aware of us, the more fellow 
flyer's we will have. It's up to us to make people aware, get the word out, 
evangelize. Get to your local radio and TV stations and let them know every 
time you have an event, find websites that post local events and post them, 
brochures in all of the hobby shops and tell your friends what you do too. 
Be proud!


After listening to all the  recent posts, each person should be encouraged 
to do their own thing. If you like flying a woodie, fly a woodie, if you 
like unlimited SMOM, do that, if you like 2M, fly 2M's, but for heavens 
sake, do not condemn someone for doing what they like, let them do what they 
like and you do what you like. And it might help everyone if we supported 
each other too.


Lets fly and be HAPPY! (sounds like a good song to me)

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org

- Original Message - 
From: Ray Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 3:59 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Re: Contest Format




Will it matter what the format is...  if very few, if any, show up to
compete?

I think it is pretty easy to get bored and wish for new contests
formats, I think it is very hard to recruit new guys to flying ... which
is the only way we are going to increase contest attendance.

How much engergy, time ( time on the internet ) and prorgams are used
to attract new people???

Do Club's have a plan they implement continually to attract new people
???

Recruiting is the hard part but, very positive for the sport.

Ray
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Re: [RCSE] what are you building this winter?

2008-01-12 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Finishing up re-building an Emerald, a Laser Arts Sovereign and a new Tim 
McCann winch.

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org


Re: [RCSE] Google and HTML

2007-12-18 Thread Dennis

Check out this article on plain text and Gmail:

http://email.about.com/od/gmailtips/qt/et122706.htm

Dh
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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Google and HTML



All,
A friend's computer died, and he bought a new Dell and signed up on Google 
(gmail)  All he can get is mail in HTML format.  He wants to get back on 
the RCSE, but has tried without any success.
My Question:  Can RCSE be received in HTML, or HTML Advanced?  If you know 
one way or the other, please get back to me, or better yet, to 
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Thanks a bunch, And Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Dave Darling
Modesto, CA
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Re: [RCSE] MOM

2007-12-06 Thread Dennis
Jim Lipkowitz (sp)? from the GLASS club in Lansing MI is working on one. It is 
a database driven program and can be installed on a PC.



Dennis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Cox 
  To: soaring mail page 
  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 1:05 PM
  Subject: [RCSE] MOM


  Does anyone have a computer program for a Man on Man contest???

  One that will set up classes, groups and scores for a large contest??


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Re: [RCSE] Looking for Information on Trophies for Flying contests

2007-12-02 Thread Dennis Hoyle
At our 2007 Woodie contest the WMSS gave the best built woodie a Beer Stein 
with the contest logo:

http://www.cafepress.com/rcsoaring.141205090

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
www.rcsoaring.org
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  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:43 PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Looking for Information on Trophies for Flying contests



  Anyone out there know of some trophies that work well for Thermal Duration 
flying?  I have all the usual stuff, but the club up here in Seattle is looking 
for something a little different than the usual cup or slab of wood.  If you 
have any ideas or contacts, please let me know.

  Thanks in Advance 

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[RCSE] Pumpkin fly and more

2006-11-13 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Well, I have to say it was very interesting in Cinci this past weekend. 
Saturday turned out to be a bust until it was suggested we go to the Air 
Force museum in Dayton. Wonderful! I haven't been there since 1969. We 
were like kids in a candy store.


Sunday was as others have said very challenging. This was more like our 
New Years day fun fly.


The guys did and excellent job running the contest in conditions we 
wouldn't usually consider. Thanks guys!


See you next year...

Maybe my Agea X-tail wiring will work next time. ;-}

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
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[RCSE] 2M Organic for sale

2006-10-02 Thread Dennis Hoyle
I have a 2 Meter Organic for sale with 4 = JR DS 368 digital servos 
(ailerons and V-tail), 1 = JR DS 168 wing servo (on flaps). Add your RX 
and fly. Very good condition.


I did crack the fuse on a landing in front of the wing and about half 
way back. The repair is solid, looks good and I flew many times since 
then. Wings and V-tail are excellent.


Solid installation by Dave Hauch.

Price $550

More info and photos here:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=577804

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
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[RCSE] Paging Johnny Berlin

2006-09-17 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Johnny, Harry DeBoer's in your neighborhood and hasn't been able to 
contact you. Please call him.


Dennis
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RE: [RCSE] How high?

2006-08-25 Thread Dennis Hoyle
In 2004 I recorded an altitude of 3,604 with my Sapphire using a RAM
altimeter. I did loose sight of it for almost a minute. 

Not to be outdone, Troy Lawicki flew his 2 Meter Duck to an astounding
altitude of 4,077 as announced by his Picolario (witnessed by several people
at our 2-Meter contest). He did this in a 10 minute window and made his
landing too. 

http://www.rcsoaring.org/newsmgr/templates/wmss.asp?articleid=62zoneid=5

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS 
www.rcsoaring.org

-Original Message-
From: Robert Samuels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 5:25 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] How high?



Some time ago I put an Avocet wrist altimeter into my 3.2 meter plane and 
thermalled it up to where I could barely see it.  The altimeter max. alt. 
read 2,400 ft.

Recently I read a review of a small on board max. altitude recording thingee

and the reviewer said he thermalled his 3 meter up to 2,300 ft. at which 
point he could barely see the plane.

I've had a guy tell me he was able to fly his plane to over 3,500 ft. as 
measured by a full scale plane that was at the same altitude. (the r/c pilot

was on the ground).  I don't believe him.

Who, among you, have measured how high you can see (fly) your 3 meter?  How 
high were you able to go and still control the plane?

Robert Samuels ... St. Louis

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[RCSE] Butch on Ice

2006-08-22 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Title: Message



Johnny, recenty sent 
me some photos. I was planning on doing a T-Shirt showing butch and Harry on 
Ice!

Here is a link to 
those photos:

http://rcsoaring.org/images/RC_Butch/index.htm

Dennis HoyleWMSSSecretary / Web 
Geek



Re: [RCSE] Nat Photos

2006-08-05 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Absolutely, just send me the link. Tonight I'll create the page and put 
up the links.


Dennis


Steve Schneider wrote:

Would that include video?

On 8/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If anyone has Nats 2006 photos online, please send me the link and
I'll make a web page that lists
them.

Thanks

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS www.rcsoaring.org http://www.rcsoaring.org





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[RCSE] 2006 Nats

2006-07-29 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Title: Message



I've been thinking 
what can be said about the 2006Nats. To sum it up "A Very Well Done". 


The operation went 
extremely smooth and was well organized. A huge Thank You to all of the 
volunteers from the "turn around trolls" to the flight line, the tent and I 
can't forget the vendors too. How many of us needed that last minute part or 
glue? Thanks Johnny for the ballast and Mike for the wing 
bolts.

Even after a long 
hot week everyone had plenty of smiles. I suspect they may have grown that way. 
;-)

Thanks too for the help and encouragement of the Michigan crew. Without 
help and advice from all the WMSS guys, I would not have lasted a minute. And 
Troy, we still consider you a Michigan man.

To new friends like 
Barry Anderson, Tom Scully and Peter Goldsmith, I hope to see you next year, if 
not sooner.

I have to say for me 
RES was the best, I suppose, because I too, had one of my best flying days yet. 
I managed a 5 out of 5 1000+ rounds, WOW what a day. Thanks Marc for selling me 
your AVA last year.

Most of all to my 
wife Jean. All the time while I was flying, she whispered sweet encouragements 
in my ear, dragged me to the landing area and kept me apprised of possible 
lift.

What 
fun!

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
Secretary / Web 
Geek



[RCSE] New Soaring T-shirt

2006-01-31 Thread Dennis Hoyle
The WMSS has created a new T-Shirt for the upcoming holiday. The Soar Nuts
Make Better Lovers t-shirt is now available. :-)

http://www.cafepress.com/rcsoaring

A portion of the proceeds will go to our club.

Thanks for the bandwidth, I hope you like them.

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
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RE: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6999

2006-01-19 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Maybe they could make an ARF that could assemble itself, open the box, throw
in some CA and out it fly's, catches a thermal and whamo you won the Nats!

Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:37 PM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #6999


Imagine...You'd have nothing to do but launch  retrieve it.  Of course 
that could be solved by computers too, so all you'd have to do is take 
the planes to the field and assemble them.  Then you could sit back in 
your chair  read a book to stave off the boredom of watching a glider 
fly itself.

Jeff

Soaring wrote:

Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:14:19 -0600
From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: Computer Guided Thermaling
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Imagine if your glider could sense thermals by onboard electronics and
actually soar them by itself.

http://hem.passagen.se/skj/engelska/NEWS2005.HTM

  

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[RCSE] New Years Day Flying

2006-01-01 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Title: Message



Just checking to see 
if anyone else was out flying today? We pulled off our 4th Annual New Years Day 
Snow Fly today. Not the best of conditions, but a great day to 
fly.

http://www.rcsoaring.org/newsmgr/templates/wmss.asp?articleid=168zoneid=1

Dennis HoyleWMSSSec / Treasurer / Web 
Geek



[RCSE] Dave Hauch Testimonials

2005-12-21 Thread Dennis Hoyle
If Dave Hauch build a sailplane for you, you can post a testimonial  
and include a photo of your plane. Dave is too shy to ask for them  
himself, so I'm doing it for him. Just go to the testimonials page on  
www.git-r-built.com and click on the the Upload a Testimonial  
button. You can include a photo (please keep it under 125k) and write  
a testimonial. Dave has build three for me so far, he's doing an  
Eraser right now and soon to do a fifth.


Your testimonials will help Dave feed his flying habit. :-)

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS / Sec / Treasurer / Web Geek
616.301.0749
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RE: [RCSE] Any early Christmas gifts?

2005-12-20 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Wahooo... An XP-4

-Original Message-
From: Dan Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:22 PM
To: RCSE
Subject: [RCSE] Any early Christmas gifts?


So, who's opened their gifts early? Or know what's coming?

Time to brag! Who's getting what?

I got a Breville espresso machine and a new 36 vinyl plotter cutter for 
my airbrushing business. Anyone want a funky paint job? It's better now 
that I won't have to cut masking film right on the wing/fuse.

Dan
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[RCSE] L.I.F.T. Contest

2005-08-15 Thread Dennis Hoyle
The LIFT contest in Traverse City this weekend was really fun. The weather was 
great especially
Sunday. A sincere thanks to Jim Johnson, Larry Storie and the rest of the LIFT 
crew. Needless to
say there was a lot of competition in 2M and Unlimited, which left a hole open 
for me to get my
first, first place trophy in RES. :-) Thanks Marc for selling me that AVA. 

We also witnessed a battle between a Bald Eagle and a Hawk. Didn't know they 
would do barrel rolls.
The eagle left the area to the east and came over closer to us. Later we 
noticed the Eagle had a
couple of wing feathers missing. The hawk held his territory and continued to 
thermal in a nice
lazy circle. Jim Johnson caught some lift with the eagle and they both skied 
out.

Memorable...

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS 
AMA 11952
LSF II
Sec / Treasurer / Web Geek

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Re: [RCSE] Re: Great Job guys

2005-08-12 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Just a curious thing why is it geeky for someone to fly toy planes when 
it's cool whack a ball
with a club into a hole? It must be the PR spin. ;-)

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS 
AMA 11952
LSF II
Sec / Treasurer / Web Geek

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- Original Message -
From: Jeff Steifel
To:  Joe Wurts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring@airage.com
Sent: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:52:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Great Job guys

Damn, I only thought that we were viewed that way in the US. I thought 
it was much more popular (an less Geeky) abroad.


Joe Wurts wrote:

Probably the best story from the WC comes from our first full day there,
although not really connected with the flying aspects.

We were on the way to the practice field, and stopped to pick up some food
at a truck stop on the highway.  On our way out, a teenager zips up to us on
one of those scooter things.  He took one look at us, and asked us (in
english) what are you guys doing here?  Gordon, in his typical rapier wit,
answers INVASION!  The kid, not at all intimidated, continues, no really,
why are you here?  We explain to him that we are here in Finland to compete
at the world championships for radio controlled gliders.  He doesn't bat an
eye in replying, Oh,... GEEKS!

Joe
Team USA Geek member


- Original Message - 
From: Kiesling, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 3:23 PM
Subject: Great Job guys


Congratulations on the podium finish.
Looking forward to some great stories.

Tom

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[RCSE] Midwest Two Meter Championships August 20-21, 2005

2005-08-02 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Alright all you Two Meter Heads :-) here is where the real fun is. 

August 20-21, 2005 the West Michigan Soaring Society is putting on its 25th
Annual Two Meter Championships. This is a Seeded MOM (man-on-man) contest
for Two Meter Only. Location - 10 mile north of Grand Rapids, MI. 

Harry DeBoer CD  - Saturday
Martin Doney CD  - Sunday

This is one great event and I hope you can make it. I doubt seriously the
temps will be any where near 100 degrees (like the Nats) but you never know.

More info online at:

http://www.rcsoaring.org/contests/RC_Soaring_contest_2_meter.asp

Signup online and join the fun. Food, Flying and great friends!

FYI, I like unlimited and RES too, I had a great time at the Nats this year,
the first time in 35 years. ;-)

Here is an interesting proposal, since Two Meter is uniquely American
event how about we change it to Two Yard event instead? What do ya say to
that? Just kidding :-)

Hope to see you here...

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
Sec / Treasurer / Web Geek

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Re: [RCSE] Contest Grand Rapids, MI July 9-10

2005-07-07 Thread Dennis Hoyle
I have been bugging these guys to get more into HLG lately. :-) 

Last night at the field we were discussing having an HLG contest. How much 
interest would there be?


Dennis Hoyle
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- Original Message -
From: Steve Meyer
To:  Cal Posthuma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:40:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Contest Grand Rapids, MI July 9-10

You forgot about HL. :-)

At 06:07 AM 7/7/2005, Cal Posthuma wrote:
Two Meter, Unlimited, RES, Nostalgia

Link: 
http://www.rcsoaring.org/contests/RC_Soaring_contest_dual_soar-in.asphttp://www.rcsoaring.org/con
tests/RC_Soaring_contest_dual_soar-in.asp

Food on site
Camping on site
F5J demo
Park Flying afterward
Michigan Soaring League #3
Good Winches
Start time 10 AM
29th Annual Event

TWO DAY Club Team Awards Two man teams from same AMA club. Top scores for 
each day added no matter what class.


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Re: [RCSE] Ultimate soaring car?

2005-05-03 Thread Dennis Hipperson
BMW 320 Diesel Wagon35mpg at  100mph50 mpg at 80 mph  plenty 
of  room for planes.  :-)
(don't ask how I know)

Dennis
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[RCSE] Airtronics Stylus Transmitter wanted

2005-04-21 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Alright you JR 9303 users, I know someone has an excellent Airtronics Stylus 
Transmitter they are
looking to part with for a modest amount of cash. Ideally I'm looking for one 
with a 50 model
memory, sailplane card and good battery(s). Please contact me offline.

Thanks

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[RCSE] Two Meter Alive in Midwest

2005-03-31 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Two Meter flyer's looking for a challenge, look no further. For 25 years West 
Michigan soaring
enthusiasts have held a great 2-Meter Seeded Man-0n-Man (MOM) contest. This 
year we are going all
out.

The Midwest 2-Meter RC Soaring Championships are being held August 20 and 21, 
2005 at the WMSS
flying site 10 miles north of Grand Rapids, MI. This is an MSL #7 (Michigan 
Soaring League)
contest. We are planning on a huge turnout. Flying, t-shirts, food, raffle 
prizes, friends and a
great place to take a vacation.

Visit our information and contest signup page at:

http://www.rcsoaring.org/contests/RC_Soaring_contest_2_meter.asp

Long live 2-Meter

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
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www.rcsoaring.org



Re: [RCSE] Getting Spam Email Now

2005-03-14 Thread Dennis Hoyle
I'm glad to see that you have taken all of those steps, not everone does. I 
applaud those that keep
up on patches and use responsible  computing practices, however, nothing 
beats a good antivirus
program that's has up to date definitions and while you may use Linux or OSX or 
something else,
there are exploits for any OS that could infect a computer without the users 
knowledge. With all of
the free ones out there like AVG or Clam, there is no reason to not use one.

Dennis Hoyle 

- Original Message -
From: Doug McLaren
To:  Dennis Hoyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:13:03 -0600
Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] Getting Spam Email Now

On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 08:26:02AM -0500, Dennis Hoyle wrote:

| How do you know if you haven't run an antivirus software?

Well, let's see ...

1) I'm careful about what I run.
2) I keep up to date on OS patches
3) I've secured my system
4) my OS's design makes it quite resistant to viruses.
5) and because of this, there's almost no viruses made for it.

| - Original Message -
| From: Doug McLaren
| To:  Dennis Hoyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 01:02:00 -0600
| Subject: Re: [RCSE] Getting Spam Email Now
| 
| On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 11:14:21PM -0500, Dennis Hoyle wrote:
| 
| | How many times have you met someone who said, I don't have an
| | antivirus program and I never got a virus. I've met quite a
| | few. They are the infected ones unwittingly sending our email
| | addresses to the spammers.
| | 
| | They're not traitors, they're just ignorant.
| 
| I don't have an anti-virus program, and haven't run one in perhaps
|10 years.
| I haven't gotten a computer virus in about 14 years.
| I'm not a traitor.
| I'm not ignorant.
| My computer is not `infected'.
| My computer is not sending your email addresses to the spammers,
|unwittingly or wittingly.
| 


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[RCSE] Gentle (Ornery) Lady project

2005-03-14 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Greetings All, for grins I'm planning on building a Ornery Lady and beefing it 
up for performance.
I want it to look similar to the original Gentle Lady, however, make it a 
sleeper. I'm planning
on using an MH32 airfoil with a carbon fiber spar, d-tube construction. I want 
to keep it light
too. Any suggestions on what kind of spar I should use and where I can get it?

Also, I will need to build a light and strong fuse to handle full pedal 
launches, probably using
some ply and carbon or Kevlar re-enforcement. I hope to get some suggestions 
how best to do it.

Thanks for assistance.

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS



Re: [RCSE] alternate to lead shot

2005-03-14 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Found this on Cabela's. If the link is too long go to cabelas.com and search 
for Hevi-Shot.

http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jhtml?id=0021576214476atype=productcmCat=search
returnString=hasJS=true_D%3AhasJS=+QueryText=reloading+tungsten_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%
2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jhtml.22N=4887Ntk=ProductsNtx=mode+matchallNty=1Ntt=reloading+tungstenn
oImage=0returnPage=search-results1.jhtml

Dennis Hoyle


- Original Message -
From: D Hauch
To:  soaring@airage.com
Sent: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:26:13 -0800
Subject: [RCSE] alternate to lead shot

Hi,
I see that Federal Ammunition has a tungston shot out,
and there's another that is heavier then that. (Matrix) ?
It say's it's 30% heavier then lead.

I called around the area, but no one stocks it in bags,
only in boxes of shells.

Just thought I'd pass it on.

Dave Hauch
Mich.
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RE: [RCSE] Getting Spam Email Now

2005-03-13 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Mike, unfortunately, some people have viruses and don't know it. How many
times have you met someone who said, I don't have an antivirus program and
I never got a virus. I've met quite a few. They are the infected ones
unwittingly sending our email addresses to the spammers.

They're not traitors, they're just ignorant.

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
Sec / Treasurer / Web Geek

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Subject: [RCSE] Getting Spam Email Now


I made up a special email address specifically for the RCSE list, which is
something I can do because I own my own domain name. Now I just got a spam
email offering me bootleg computer software from India (We have alL your
favOrite PrOgrams at 1ncredib|y L0w Pr!ces), and it was sent to that same
email address.

Apparently there's a traitor in our midst or a leak somewhere. Fortunately
my email client can easily filter out the spam.

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RE: [RCSE] Nats Planning, 2M, and All the Rest

2005-02-12 Thread Dennis Hoyle
All this discussion beating up 2M is really unfortunate. If this string of
thought were carried to the logical extreme, the few that can afford it,
would probably all be flying Icon's or whatever is the state of the art
machine at the time and hang the gas bags and lesser planes. This attitude
sounds a little elitist to me. 

If NASCAR thought the same way, there would be only NEXTEL CUP, no Busch or
Craftsman Truck series races. These other races are good way for drivers to
learn the skills to compete in the top races. 2M is a great way to bring up
flying skills at a reasonable cost for newbie's like me. This year I plan on
flying in the NATS for the first time in 34 years. I will be flying in 2M
and please if you think it sucks don't fly. It'll be more fun for the rest
of us. Don't close out the new guys by limiting choices. The sport must
expand or wither and die.

By the way, I like unlimited and RES too. In fact, I just like to fly.

Dennis Hoyle
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RE: [RCSE] Jim's idea: central listing of contests

2005-01-22 Thread Dennis Hoyle
RC Soaring Clubs are welcome to submit their contests on the WMSS club
Calendar. Go to:

http://rcsoaring.org/cal/index_frame.asp

Click Submit An Event Here! select a category, give it a title and choose
a date(s)then fill in the details. Once posted and approved it will be
available to all.

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RE: [RCSE] High Altitude Glider/off subject

2005-01-17 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Last August Troy Lawicki flew his 2M Duck to 4077' feet at the 2M MOM
contest. That guy has got eagle eyes. Whipped my measly 3604' with my
Sapphire

http://www.rcsoaring.org/newsmgr/templates/wmss.asp?articleid=62zoneid=5

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From: Johnny Berlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:52 PM
To: Mark Wales; soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] High Altitude Glider/off subject


3999 ft. 2004 Nats cross contry scale..Pegasus tow plane


Johnny


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To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: [RCSE] High Altitude Glider/off subject



 Those of you out there flying with altimitters.
 How high have you flown and with what sailplane?

 Myself:
 In Aug 1995 my Windsong hit 3740 ft AGL.  Never want to try that 
 again.

 Mark

 Soaring Is Life!!


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Re: [RCSE] Majestic 110

2005-01-06 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Dan, I just completed a Majestic last week. The kit was great. I did reinforce 
the spar using
carbon top and bottom and wrapped the spar with Kevlar thread. 

I flew it the first time on New Years day. It fly's excellent and tracked up 
the tow perfect. The
last flight I put the petal down and it started to stall the winch, so the wing 
came out pretty
strong. Some photos are on this page about half way down:

http://www.rcsoaring.org/newsmgr/templates/wmss.asp?articleid=103zoneid=1

Dennis Hoyle
WMSS
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- Original Message -
From: Dan
To:  soaring@airage.com
Sent: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:21:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [RCSE] Majestic 110 RES from Laser Arts

Fellow fliers,

 

I'm looking to build a RES ship to fly in our local club contests. While doing 
a Google search, I
ran across the Majestic 110 RES from Laser Arts.

 

Question: has anyone had any experience with this kit - pros or cons?  Flying 
characteristics?

 

ThanksDan 



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Re: [RCSE] Thoughts on the Wright Bros. Centennial

2003-12-19 Thread Dennis and Marion Hipperson
Well maybe, as the Smithsonian Conspiracy shows they woked hard at becomng
know as the fathers
of aviation. But were they, try this
http://www.nzedge.com/heroes/pearse.html


Dennis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Thoughts on the Wright Bros. Centennial


It's funny that there all these other folks with claims on inventing the
airplane (there's another in Argentina), yet they never went on to do
anything else with their inventions.

The Wright Brothers were never the first people to fly.  People had been
flying gliders (think Otto Lillinthal) and balloons (and blimps?) for
years.  But the Wrights were the first, and the only ones, to put all the
elements together: flight, power, and control.  Whatever else happened,
they invented the airplane.

At 10:02 AM 12/17/03 -0500, Regis White wrote:
Two years, four months and three days before the successful flights of
the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk, a birdlike monoplane took to the air
at early dawn on August 14, 1901, near Bridgeport, Connecticut, carrying
its inventor and builder, Gustave Whitehead, a distance of approximately
a half mile.  So reported the Bridgeport Herald, the New York Herald and
the Boston Transcript.
http://deepsky.com/~firstflight/   My Thoughts. Regis

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Re: [RCSE] How many of us are there?

2003-10-27 Thread Dennis Hipperson
Try the MAAA

Dennis

nojunkplease wrote:

Does anyone know of any statistics relating to how many people in the world
currently fly RC gliders? Or in which countries it is most popular (either
in total numbers or as a percentage of population)? Anyone care to hazard
some guesses??
Being an Australian, I'm personally particularly curious as to how many RC
glider flyers (or flyers of all types of RC aircraft) there are in
Australia
I hope some of you can help satisfy my curiousity and perhaps others might
find it at least a little intriguing as well.
Regards,

Kye

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Re: [RCSE] F3J Scoring Program

2003-06-16 Thread Dennis and Marion Hipperson
Hi Steve, Try this site:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sgloor/

Dennis

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Meyer 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: Bruno Pavani 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] F3J Scoring Program


That cannot be used for F3J since it does not handle normalized flight groups or man 
on man competition.

Trusty Excel Spreadsheet is what I use for LSF/AMA NATS.  Highly configurable.  
Although not a true database application, it does a nice job of collecting the data 
and displaying and printing the results.  At the NATS a separate application actually 
creates the flight groups.

Let me put together a sample sheet with macros.  I cannot support the app so your 
mileage may vary. 

No Portuguese?

Steve

At 11:37 AM 6/12/2003 -0700, targetdrone wrote:

  There's a link to a scoring program written by Mike Skube on the SC2 website at 
http://www.sc-2.org 
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From: Bruno Pavani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: [RCSE] F3J Scoring Program


Hello guys, I was doing a web search on F3J scoring programs and wasn't able to 
find any exept the F3Score 
(I'm having some problems with this one), are there any other programs recomended?


P.S.= The language must be English. 




Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question

2003-04-01 Thread Dennis Hipperson
I believe if you leave the TX battery connected you can change the
lithium without fear of losing any settings. I think I saw that
in the manual.

Dennis

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question


Andrew,

What you say is always a good idea.  However, it can be done by the
consumer with some care.  I recently got the L on one of my 8103s.
The change over probably made it 'batteryless' for 10 to 15 min.  Lo,
and behold, the settings were still there.  Maybe there is a big
capacitor in there somewhere that will hold the voltage for a small
period of time.

Bob



Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 13:29:01 -0500
From: Andrew E. Mileski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] JR 8103 lithium battery failure question
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Karl Miller wrote:
  I have a JR 8103 Tx which is about 5 years old. I was wondering what
happens
  when the lithium battery (which is the backup battery for the model
memory
  and all data stored) fails. In the manual it says a flashing L will
appear
  when the voltage drops below 2.2 volts.Then it also says if the lithium
  battery should fail all data will be lost and the Tx will not function.

AFAIK, it has to be unlocked by a tech :(  Hence changing the battery
yourself requires extreme care to avoid loss of power during the
process.

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Re: [RCSE] RE: GUI programming for TX's - More

2003-01-10 Thread Dennis Hipperson
Hi Neil,

   The idea was to take the numerical and small screen interface of the
 Tx's programming screen and enhance that to make it easier to
understand.
 That is a huge advantage.  I use an example from aviation between 2 Garmin
 GPS units.  The 430 and 530.  The functionality of the units is identical,
 the difference is screen size.  Now, yes the map is bigger, but the main
 reason people swap to the larger 530 is to have more information displayed
 on one screen.

OK, I get your drift - however (isn't there always a however :-))
It would appear that a bigger easier to use interface to say a 3030 or 4000
would be an improvement to the end user - unfortunately, I have to disagree
completely.

Neil unfortunatly I would have to disgree with your disagree. :))

The bigger interface on the JR 8103 is much better (and easier to use)
than the one on the JR 388.

Also the two line interface on the Graupner/JR MC 18/20 is abbismal compared
with the
interface on the Graupner/JR MC 24 On both these above examples the larger
screen allows
you to see where to go to get to the next function so that you do not have
to scroll throuh numerous
screens (or remember function numbers as in the case of the MC 18/20)

Imagine if all the functions and their values were on the screen at the one
time then we would not have to search
for that function that we know is there, but is always hard to find,
especially when new to that TX .
Take the example of the Palm devicesno no not your fingers..the Palm
Pilot thinggys, if you had to scroll through
to get to all the functions I don't believe they would have taken off.

Take your average modeller, an F3F/F3J/F3B model and a 3030/4000. If you
remove the aircraft from the loop in any way, then the modeller can't see
any connection between what they are adjusting and the end result - there's
no feedback.

I don't believe anyone was seriously suggesting removing the model.


I'm sorry to keep harping back to what I said, but unless there
is some visual feedback to the adjustments, then no amount of graphical
user
interface is going to make up for this.

Totally agree.


The GUI can certainly make it look simpler by giving more information, 

Yep I believe that's what people were saying would be better

but without any visual control feedback, it is just a big bunch of numbers.
 - perhaps even more confusing to the end user.

Agree


There's really no satisfying substitute to watching both the ailerons and
flaps move in the same direction after 3 hours of programming =;-)

How about a larger interface and perhaps doing it in 5-10 mins.

Perhaps what is required is a simulator that has no connection to the
transmitter whatsoever - a training aid in effect. A set of dummy aircraft
models could be used to show cause and effect. Perhaps a series of plugins
to suit different makes of Tx even. An electronic version of the Tx users
manual. Or maybe just reading (and understanding !) the printed manual would
save all this effort g

Ahhh understand the manual.there's a novel thought, what language was
yours written in :)))
I have yet to read one that explains exactly how to set up the 3 poition sw.
for launch thermal and landing , for instance. Yes I have read Mike's one
and printed it.

The problem is that when one knows a lot about the programming of a certain
TX and then
writes a manual they seem to assume that their audience knows more that they
in fact do.
Its like teaching someone who has had no former exposure to a computer, how
to use one
It can be very hard for the teacher to dumb down (for want of a better
expresion) to the level
of the learner. But this is what is needed with manuals in my opinion, The
manual that comes with
the 3030 is the best I have seen but still assumes perhaps more knowledge
than one has.
The basics are easy, it's the full function stuff that is not usually easy
to aquire.

I think though that your statement regarding reading and UNDERSTANDING the
manual and the
way the programming for a TX works is certainly the key..

Sorry for long post,

my .A$ 0.01c worth

Dennis

Field tuning would be done with the normal functions.

Agree



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Re: [RCSE] Re: Death of Legionaire

2002-10-21 Thread Dennis Phelan
So,
I shouldn't tell you about the Tx that gave me a fit for almost a year and took
out two planes. I mean, the failures didn't last long and were very infrequent.
The service tech found the problem easily once I realized it was a Tx problem.

Dennis
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 The transmitter in not suspect as I flew
 another model the next day, all day, without incident.

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[RCSE] Heavy Duty HLG

2002-08-11 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dudes,
I've been flying an older Mark Allen designed HLG off of a Holliday 2M
highstart, rubber, no line. The wing failed today. It's an old plane that has
given me tons of fun the past few years. 

What HLG's are there out there today that are rugged enough for years of zoom
launches, grab a wingtip as well as grab the nose landings that I can get.

This is just for 2ch fun, no throwing and no contests.

Please leave the Chuperosa off the list. My aileron one still flies.

Thanks!!

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Re: [RCSE] Best TD plane?

2002-08-09 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dave,
I'll add to the advice that doesn't tell you which plane to fly.

Look around you! Since most of us can't go out and buy one plane after another,
do the next best thing. What are the pilots in your areas throwing in the air.
What shows up at your local contests? What is working for them in your air? It
will probably work for you and you can get expert help locally.

It ain't the plane, pracice, practice, practice!

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RE: [RCSE] Re: F3J WC scoring?

2002-08-09 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dudes,
Actually, in:
5.6.10.2 for F3j and 
5.3.2.3-par b) for f3b
each say for each full second of
which sounds like truncate to me. But my printed rules here are kinda old.

Then, my out of date AMA book says in:
13.1.2.2 and 13.3.2.2-par a)
that points are given for each second, I didn't esee any mention of how to
deteermine that, but I'm out of my leauge in those 10 pages of rules that I
don't fly to.

Dennis
--- JMiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 but if you check the two sets of
 rules, there is nothing stated in FAI rules about rounding off times, as
 there is with AMA.

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RE: [RCSE] Mpx 3030 Programming

2002-07-10 Thread Dennis Hipperson


Hi Bob,

I have an onboard glow system, on a towplane, that I activate using an
electronic speed control and sw.
5 to turn it on and off. I want to know if I can then use the GX sw (via =
the
throttle) to switch sw 5 off once past 
20% or so throttle and back on again once the throttle comes back past 20%.
With my glider I have all the wing servoes setup as butterfly, the throttle
stick operates the 
flaps as spoiler. When I apply full spoiler the flaps go down as they should
but not as far as I 
would like, however if I also apply the launch flap at the same time the
flaps go further down
to a point that I am happy with. So I'm trying to find how to get all that
deflection with just spoiler.

Hope it makes sense.

Dennis
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Re: [RCSE] Mini-Ellipse airbrush .. pictures

2002-06-23 Thread Dennis Phelan

Thanks Steve!
10-20 NO[!] easily 100 times quicker to get a look at them!

Stefan, GREAT job there! 

Dennis
[my web skills match Stefans]

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Re: [RCSE] Foam

2002-06-23 Thread Dennis Phelan

Cal,
Here's what Paul Breed wrote about this a few months ago.

Dennis
--- Paul Breed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here are some specifications for pink and blue foam
 All of this foam info was found using the google news group searching.
 
 
 
In BLUE foam, there are 5 densities available.
 
The types are; Residential Sheathing with a Compression Strength of
15PSI min. (Type X) Square Edge, Tongue and Groove, and Score Board
 with
Compression Strength of 25PSI min. (Type IV )
40 High Load, with Compression Strength of 40PSI min.
60 High Load, with Compression Strength of 60PSI min.
115 High Load, with Compression Strength of 115PSI min. Also available
is Grayboard with a Compression Strength of 15PSI min.
 
Dow does not like to list densities for these products, but prefers
that they be specified by compression strength performance. They do
however list the MINIMUM (not actual) DENSITIES for these products.
 They
are: Grayboard 1.35 pounds per cubic foot
Residential Sheathing 1.6 lbs\ft^3
Square Edge, Tongue and Groove, and Score Board 1.6 lbs\ft^3
40 High Load 1.8 lbs\ft^3
60 High Load 2.2 lbs\ft^3
115 High Load 3.0 lbs\ft^3
 
When asked about actual densities, a Dow representative commented
that grayboard was 1.6 lbs\ft^3 and Square Edge etc. was 1.8 lbs\ft^3.
However the Scoreboard that I am using measures 1.6 lbs\ft^3, right at
the minimum density.
 
 
DAN DEVRIES wrote about substituting High Load 60 for Spyder
Foam. According to Composite Structures Technology, Spyder Foam has 3
times the compressive strength of Blue Foam and almost 10 times the
compressive strength of white (1 lb/cu ft) foam and a density of 2.2
lbs/ft^3. This would be a compressive strength of 75-100PSI.
 Therefore
High Load 60 had the same density with a somewhat lower compression
strength (60PSI).
 
White expanded polystyrene is also available in several densities
and strengths. Type I is 1 lbs/ft^3 @ 10PSI. Type II is 1.5 lbs/ft^3 @
15PSI. Type IX is 2.0 lbs/ft^3 @ 25 PSI.
I used some of the Type II for Hand Launch (successfully ?) because
 
 
 In some parts of the USA Owen Corning pink foam is easier to locate
 for wing fabrication than Dow Blue Foam or Spyder foams.  The following
 technical information pertains to Owens Corning Pink Foam.
 
 
   Owens Corning Products
 
   Owens has its own line of extruded polystyrene insulation in many
   densities and strengths.  It is ALL PINK.
 
   Properties for FOAMULAR 150 are:
   Compressive Strength  15psi min.
   Flexural Strength 60psi min.
   Density   1.4 pounds per cubic foot (approx.)
 
   Properties for FOAMULAR 250 are:
   Compressive Strength  25psi min.
   Flexural Strength 75psi min.
   Density   1.8 pounds per cubic foot (approx.)
 
   Properties for FOAMULAR 400 are:
   Compressive Strength  40psi min.
   Compressive Modulus   1400 psi min.
   Flexural Strength 115psi min.
   Density   2.04 pounds per cubic foot (average)
 
   Properties for FOAMULAR 600 are:
   Compressive Strength  60psi min.
   Compressive Modulus   2200 psi min.
   Flexural Strength 140psi min.
   Density   2.4 pounds per cubic foot (average)
 
 
   Properties for FOAMULAR 1000 are:
 Compressive Strength  100psi min.
 Compressive Modulus   3700 psi min.
   Flexural Strength 150psi min.
 Density3.6 pounds per cubic foot (average)
 

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[RCSE] Loft Weekend

2002-06-03 Thread Dennis Zech

OVSS#2

LOFT Weekend is Saturday and Sunday in Fort Wayne, IN.  Pilots meeting
is 9:00 a.m. Fort Wayne Time.  We are flying man-on-man, 4-5 winches.
You are also competing for the Indiana State trophy if you are an
Indiana resident.  We are flying 2 meter, unlimited, and RES.  Call or
email for directions if needed.

http://www.rc-aero.com/LOFT/lw/flier.html

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[RCSE] Soaring Stuff ?

2002-05-03 Thread Dennis Zech

Anyone know or do any business with Soaring Stuff in New Mexico?  They
haven't responded to my email or phone call.  Not meant to start another
vendor flame war, just looking for information.

Denny Zech

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RE: [RCSE] current Hall of Fame Alphabetized

2002-04-12 Thread Dennis Phelan

Bill,
Right, it has been fun watching the list grow. I can't complain that there are
so many people that have made soaring great for us today.

Dennis
--- Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is looking more and more like the Oscars.
 
 I agree. I wanted it to be more select and elite. But I think that's a
 minority opinion. Oh well, it's still fun. And, they are great folks.
 
 Bill Swingle
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Janesville, CA
 
 
 


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Re: [RCSE] MPX 3030 with JR Rx?

2002-04-11 Thread Dennis Hipperson

Bill it does contradict something you said!! The second part of your
statement said:

(Thus, when using a Hitec rec with a JR trans, channel 1 is throttle, NOT
Aileron as
in Hitec systems.  I believe Kraft used channel 1 for elevator, and so on.)

This is statement is true ONLY for the above TX's mentioned NOT for the
3030. With the 3030 you can make Rx. channel 1 anything you want. eg you
could assign it to be towhook and operated by the stick you would normally
use for rudder, if that's what you want. Or you could operate the channel
with a switch, which would of course be the normal way to  do it.

Dennis


 At 8:32 AM -0400 4/11/02, Bill Conkling wrote:
 I don't see how a message on RCSE can not be for RCSE users, but.
 
 If you use a reciever from a manufacturer other than the transmitter
 manufacurer, you have to realize that the channel (servo) assignments
will
 be determined by the channel assignments of the transmitter.  Thus, when
 using a Hitec rec with a JR trans, channel 1 is throttle, NOT Aileron as
 in Hitec systems.  I believe Kraft used channel 1 for elevator, and so
on.
 
 In other words, with your Multiplex trans, the servos are connected in
the
 JR rec just as they were in kthe Multiplex rec.
 
 .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: [RCSE] Use Nats for team Selects ??

2002-03-22 Thread Dennis Phelan

Jack,
The Nat's IS a qualifier for the F3b team Selection finals. Thank you for all
your support and the help you provide for the event. The volunteers love
helping this event and all their questions about it get answered.

Dennis
one of the other DP's

--- Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fellas,
 I agree, The NAts is not the place for this wonderful event, However, the 
 Nats could be used as a qualification contest for the same...
 Or at least thats my hope.. providing we get the support.
 Jack
 
 
 From: Anker Berg-Sonne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: John O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [RCSE] Nats question - for the LSF/AMA
 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:02:43 -0500
 
 John,
 
 As a NATS competitor and also having been the scorekeeper at a national 
 team
 selection (F3J 3 years ago - only do this if you have VERY strong nerves) I
 concur 100% with your sentiment. The NATS are definitely NOT the right 
 place
 to select national FAI teams.
 
 Anker
 - Original Message -
 From: John O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [RCSE] Nats question - for the LSF/AMA
 
 
   I have been following this thread with interest, especially the aspect 
 of
 picking the FAI representatives through the National
   Championships.
   As an old timer who won my first national championship in 1959 and flew 
 in
 my first World Championships in 1960, allow me to make a
   few pertinent comments.
   I have flown in multiple National Championships in Ireland, Australia,
 Canada and Great Britain and have had wonderful memories of
   each.  I have now mellowed a little and have lost the highly competitive
 urges (I have to, as there are few competitions within 500
   miles of my home)
  
None of the countries in which I have competed chose their 
 international
 teams at their National Championships. This is not a
   reflection on the importance of the National Championships, but is a
 recognition that the Team Trials require an isolation to
   provide an atmosphere of competition totally dedicated to the class 
 being
 flown.
   National Championships, by their very nature, celebrate an important
 gathering of a varied group of modellers competing in a wide
   range of events. This is as it should be and these contests provide
 lasting memories to the large number of contestants.  It should
   be remembered that not all National Championship competitors have
 international aspirations and the national championships provides
   the opportunity to meet the cream of the crop and learn from them.
  
   Prospective international contenders compete with others in a number of
 events at the national championships. These same
   competitors, in their quest for an international place would not be able
 to compete to their full ability in a team trial at the
   nationals, with the distraction of multiple events being carried on at 
 the
 same time.
  
I would like some day to have the privilege to fly in the US Nationals
 and I'm sure it would be an experience which would be as
   memorable as any of the best I have experienced in 52 years of 
 modelling.
 I'll even use a skeg! (that took some effort).
   --
   John O'Sullivan
   Nova Scotia
  
  
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Re: [RCSE] Restricted Contests

2002-03-06 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dudes,
Why do you want the entire field to be Level 4's? Lets make half the field
Level 2's, they might like to feel good about beating someone!

Dennis
--- Tom Broeski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay Perry,
 If you have a nice weekend and you have three rounds to make the contest
 legal.  With 5 min tasks and have 25 pilots each with their own timer (no
 frequency conflicts allowed) flying three separate contests at the same
 time.  6 winches, two per contest, 8 landing zones, get in line, no
 sandbagging, launch, land, move to next winch (contest) and do the same.
 Winner of any three drops out and runs the winch.  You start early and you
 can get in 9 contests each day.  You can advance a lot of people.  That is a
 potential of 18 wins in one weekend.
 (check my math)
 
 Would be great mid-air potential, but would be very interesting.  Could
 monitor and stop launching when 10 planes are in the air.  Launch would go
 as soon as a plane lands opening the 10th slot.  Would be one heck of an
 exhausting day, but I would love something like this.
 
 Master fliers would be allowed if they are going for their level V.
 
 Let me know when you get this set up.  I will gladly help find volunteers
 for scoring and winch running.
 
 Tom
 
  Why not restricted contests where only level four's and below and no
 Master
  flyers are allowed.  Master flyers to mean winners of say Phoenix,
 Visalia,
  and Pasadena,or The Nationals.
 
  Limit the entries to 25 to improve your chances of winning.
  Have multiple contests in the same day.
 
  The guys in So Cal have a restricted contest where only Master and level 5
  flyers can fly.
 
  Why not reverse it.
 
  I have the grass field with facalities.
  I have the winch and retrieval equipment.
  I have the C.D. papers.
 
  I don't have the flyers signed up.
  I don't have many helpers.
  I don't have computer scoreing.
 
  Interested level fours and below ping me back and I will start making a
  list of those interested flyers.
 
  Regards,Perry
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Re: [RCSE] 5ft carbon tubes

2002-03-04 Thread Dennis Zech

www.citystar.com/hang-em-high

They have .375 od, .393 od, and .472 od.  The .472 od I used and have a
9mm wingrod.  They are 60 long

Denny

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[RCSE] Battery Cycler

2002-02-24 Thread Dennis Zech

Any advise on which charger/cycler is easiest to use and works the
best?  I would like to purchase one but don't know which one to look
at.  I would like to be able to test my batteries to make sure they are
up to par for the new season.

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Re: [RCSE] What's the best Hi-Start???

2002-02-15 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dude,
I use a Holliday 2M high start to launch a 60 HLG. Get the biggest, strongest
one you can. Any composite ship can take a stout one.

Dennis

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Re: [RCSE] Walmart tempted me.

2002-02-15 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dude,
Don't use a Feather Rx.
Don't use HS-50's.
Don't launch off of an AMA winch.
Don't fly it MoM.
Don't complain about Walmart when it doesn't fly OOS!

Dennis
--- Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I made an impulse buy in WalMart. One of those kids toy foam gliders
 mysteriously leaped into my cart. Cost 4 dollars.
 
 I'm tempted to throw some radio gear in to it. Anyone care to talk me out of
 it.
 
 Bill Swingle
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [RCSE] Measuring Internal Resistance of F3B Winch Motors

2002-02-08 Thread Dennis Phelan

Tim,
Actually, the rule on how the winches are tested has changed and just become
effective. Typing as I read the document[not quite a quote]:

c)The complete winch equipment[batteries, cables, switch and motor] must have a
total resistance of 23.0 milliohms.
The allowed resistance may be obtained by adding a fixed resistor or resistors
between motor and battery.

e)Measuring: The battery must stay unloaded for at least two minutes after the
previous test or launch. The measuring of the circuit resistance consists of
recording the battery voltage Ub immediatly before closing the winch switch and
recording the the current[I300] and the voltage[U300] 300milliseconds[+/-
30msec] after the winch current begins to flow. Before the end of this 300ms 
interval the motor shall stop rotating.

f) For the test a digital voltage measuring instrument(accuracy /-1%) is used,
which enables to measure the voltage of the battery and the output voltage from
the I/U transducer 300ms after the current of the winch is applied. The
transducer for measuring of the current may bea clamp transducer(range 0-600 or
0-1000A, accuracy /- 2%) or a calibrated resistor(0.1 milliohm, accuracy
/-0.5%) in the negative path of the circuit.

g) The resistance is calculated with the formula   Retot= 1000 x Uo/I300


The winch tester used by the competitors and Finals organizers over the past 10
years probably fills the bill. The other devices mentioned are not that
difficult to find.

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Re: [RCSE] Who needs instructions?

2002-01-03 Thread Dennis Phelan

Jim,
The guy was posting 'general' instructions. That means they should apply to
most, right? Certainly 'some' planes will have a hook behind the CG and not
necessarily the quote CG but is this a good recommendation for the
'general' population?

Dennis
--- Jim Carlton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not necessarily, Steve. I have had this situation that crash'n burn states 
 work fine as well as a hook mounted 1/4 ahead of the, quote, CG and many 
 points in between. 

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Re: [RCSE] Merry Xmas

2001-12-26 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dudes,
Merry Christmas from Connecticut. There is no hope for the beginner! For all
others there is trial and error, which is a lot of fun!

Dennis


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Re: [RCSE] Merry Xmas

2001-12-26 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dudes,
Merry Christmas from Connecticut. There is no hope for the beginner! For all
others there is trial and error, which is a lot more fun!

Dennis

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Re: [RCSE] Landing Skegs Should be Outlawed in Contests

2001-12-21 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dude,
I vote YES on this,
but I don't fly in the events where they're popular so my vote shouldn't count.

Dennis

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Re: [RCSE] Which Way Does a Thermal Rotate in the Nothern Hemisphere?

2001-12-21 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dude,
Since you ask
Last night a show about tornadoes on The Weather Channel said that tornadoes
can definitly be cyclonic or anti-cyclonic! They did a 'thing' with maps and
stuff to show where the non-typical ones form in relation to the 'only' ones
that should be forming in the northern hemisphere!

I have on a video a team of tornado scientists creating dust-devels in both
directions using a truck in the desert. Kinda like a storm creating a surge
even though the moon is in thewrng place for a high tide? Kinda like a surface
in chaos below a chaotic blanket of air?

What we should really be looking at is why our planes get heavier with age.

Dennis




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Re: [RCSE] Nats..reply..Numbers

2001-12-12 Thread Dennis Phelan

Bill,
Honest, this is just a straight reply!
If that were the case then pilots, CD's or clubs would do the same thing that
the have done to the AMA rules and drop the distance and speed tasks from the
event they run, go to or promote.

Look in the book, can you see where it reads:
11. Scoring-General[pg 119]
We're supposed to be running multiple tasks at an event. We're supposed to be
pilots that can use thermals to our advantage in many ways, not just one. A
landing is not supposed to be a tie breaker that gets picked on in discussion
every year.

Dennis

Now to the group,
There is very little difference between what we as Americans are supposed to be
competing in and the rules for competition that have been agreed upon by an
international group. When we do start flying more tasks and pilots become as
familiar with the flying situations in a multi-task environment, working time, 
and entrant supplied winches will become minor differences.

The pilots that wrote the rules and the pilots that won't change them must
think this is a good idea already. If not, PLEASE take the other tasks out of
the rule book already!

Dennis
--- Bill Malvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's an extreme  (very unlike me to take the extreme view).
 
 If the goal is to increase FAI participation then why not simply propose an
 Urgent Rules Proposal to the Soaring Contest Board to eliminate all other
 parts of soaring from the rules and replace them with the FAI events. If
 people have no other choice, then they will either start flying FAI or go do
 something else. That way we don't have to worry about how many are flying
 what event at the NATs. FAI will be all there is, end of problem.
 
 ~~
 
 Bill Malvey
 Ladera Ranch, California
 

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Re: [RCSE] Nats..reply..Numbers

2001-12-12 Thread Dennis Phelan

Steve,
You're right, but don't have clinic's. It just takes CD's that run the tasks.
If they do, they will find that it can be done without any more help than the
pilots can provide. It's just like running any other event.

Certainly!
 Believe it or not this can be enjoyed with any sort of sailplane.  You
 don't need moldie$.  Not 'til you get hooked on the sport...
 
 Regards from the master of the sub thirty second speed run.
 
 Steve

Dennis

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Re: [RCSE] the gentleman who sold tank bearings for turnarounds

2001-12-04 Thread Dennis Phelan

Rick,
If you just need a turnaround, I can bring you one. I'll be at the meeting
Saturday.

Dennis
--- Richard Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone know whether the gentleman who sold the tank bearings for
 turn_arounds is still alive.
 
 I asked a couple of months ago and got one response but even lost that when
 I loaded XP.
 
 Thankyou.
 
 Rick
 
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Re: [RCSE] JR 10X info

2001-11-30 Thread Dennis Phelan

Greetings,

Find a copy of the latest SE Modeler. It has a nice review of the 10x.

Dennis
 I know the exchange recently debated
 these two radios, and I went through and searched the archives.
 Although the posts were titled 8103 vs. 10x they should have been
 titled, is 10 models enough in your memory, or why I hate datasafe, or
 how many models do YOU own.  Although funny to read, they offered little
 help.

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RE: [RCSE] Flying Smaller Slopes

2001-11-28 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dudes,
Ah, but you FEEL like you're more maneuverable!

Dennis
--- Nicholas Wisdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought beer made you less manueverable.
 
 :)
 
 
  Original Message Follows
  From: Aerofoam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Any micro plane is usually beer on a small slope, they are more
  manueverable

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Re: [RCSE] Cobra for sale!

2001-09-01 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dude,
Without that one left wing panel, the Cobra isn't worth $100!
Ask how I know.

Dennis
--- Stephen Syrotiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Give 'im a break Jason; $1000.00  I'll spring the other hundred bucks
 for the fuse, opposite wing, and empenage, ballast, etc...
 -- 
 Stephen Syrotiak Building Service Feeling generous...
 Southern Connecticut
 http://members.home.net/stephen.s1


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Re: [RCSE] F3J Team Selection Report, Practice Day 1

2001-08-31 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dudes,
Well, there went the last chance for anyone to get a Warp-T!
--- James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A bit of bad news, the airline lost all of Daryl's models coming back from 
 Europe and I don't think he will be competing.

Dennis

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Re: [RCSE] Tragi Website?

2001-07-25 Thread Dennis Phelan

http://www.park.tartu.ee/tragilin.htm


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For JR 388/8103 setup and F3b scoring downloads:
page updated 7/24/01
http://www.geocities.com/dephela/index.html

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Re: [RCSE] NATS

2001-07-25 Thread Dennis Phelan

Mike,
Aw forget it.

Dennis

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Re: [RCSE] Do Not Quick Charge??

2001-07-24 Thread Dennis Phelan

Raymond,
Not having the latest/best and not having any problem, I would have discharged
the pack and then [fast]charged it. Twice or three times if it had been sitting
longer.

Dennis

--- Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just lost my Hades few days ago.  I am so mad because I'd only crashed
 twice in 2 years but both were fatal and both were caused by battery failure!
 What cause the sudden death of battery?  
 The pack I used was left in the tool box for 2 month untouch, could that
 damage it??
 someone told me I should never use quick charge because it could seriusly
 damage the battery and cause a sudden death.  Is that true??
 Raymond Wong
 Hong Kong
 


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Re: [RCSE] Luck -Some bad ,Some good!

2001-07-24 Thread Dennis Phelan

Dude,
Which New Hampshire were you in that had that few woods?

Dennis
--- Norm Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...it's over the woods {not 
 more than 100 acres of woods } and I can't see the darn thing...

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Re: [RCSE] JR Radio Repair...

2001-06-11 Thread Dennis Phelan

Greetings,
Horizon has done all all the work on my JR's. They found a cracked solder
connnection for me. They've been good on time and cost of repairs and tuneups.

I did also have a fuse holder with insufficient holding power.

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[RCSE] Wanted: Left Wing for Millenium

2001-06-06 Thread Dennis Phelan

Greetings,
Ok, no one has a Cobra wing panel.
Does anyone have an RnR Millenium left wing panel or even just a tip[the last
14 or so] they would part with?

Don't ask me why it's always the left wing!

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[RCSE] WE'RE DOWN TO ONE WEEK TO GO!!!

2001-05-29 Thread Dennis Phelan

So here is one last reminder for the 27th 
Annual Spring Sailplane Challenge: 

Sunday, June 3, 2001 at Simsbury Farms - 77 Old Farms Road, West Simsbury, CT

Sponsored by the Yankee Silent Fliers Association (YSFA) as we continue the 
long-standing Spring Sailplane Challenge tradition in Simsbury, Connecticut.

· The YSFA is principally funded through this annual contest.  A YSFA 
membership for 2001 (normally $5.00) is available free to each registered
contestant.

· Without a large established club to furnish labor, we rely on contestant 
help.  Please plan to arrive early and/or stay late to help setup and breakdown

the meet.  Help with registration, scoring, winch operation, etc., may also be 
needed over the course of the day.

· Certificates are awarded at the meet; engraved trophies commensurate with the

number of entries will be ordered and shipped after.

· AMA rulebook events 442  444, plus RES/2M  RES/2M; International Duration 
(T1) with Landing Bonus (L4); 12v winches w/ retrievers.

· One event, $10; two events, $15; three or four events, $20.  Pilot's meeting 
at 0915; open window format; 3 rounds minimum.

· Please pass the word.  And remember - for information, map and directions, 
visit our website at  www.ysfa.rcclubs.com.  And since we have a handy-dandy 
local weather link on the YSFA website, I'll not be sending out my traditional 
contest-morning weather estimate - such is progress (plus I get to sleep in)...


Hope to see you all at the meet,

Rod Peterson (CD)


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