Re: ICE Tree on reference model, what gives?

[ivan tay]

Hi Vincent,

I have repro-ed this and this is tagged under SOFT-8906 for further
investigation.

Regards
-Ivan


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Chris Chia  wrote:

> Hi Vincent,
> Thanks for the info.
> I have forwarded this issue to the team for further investigation.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Fortin
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:38 PM
> To: softimage
> Subject: ICE Tree on reference model, what gives?
>
> Hi List, long time no see :-)
>
> I read this in the Softimage 2013 SP1 fix list<
> http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/Autodesk_Softimage_2013_SP1.pdf>:
>
> SOFT-  Saving a scene with an ICE tree on a referenced model and
> loading it back up and you lose the ICE Tree completely.
> However, when doing the following I lose the ICE Tree completely:
> 1) Get Primitive > Character > Biped
> 2) Right-Click > Convert to Reference
> 3) Create an ICE Tree on the character mesh
> 4) Save and reopen the scene
> 5) ICE Tree has disappeared!
> Looks like it may be related to the enveloppe since everything works if
> the character is frozen or if I test against a simple sphere.
> Someone confirmed to me that the same happens in 2014.
> Any ideas?
>
> Vincent
>

RE: ICE Tree on reference model, what gives?

[Chris Chia]

Hi Vincent,
Thanks for the info.
I have forwarded this issue to the team for further investigation.

Regards,
Chris

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Fortin
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:38 PM
To: softimage
Subject: ICE Tree on reference model, what gives?

Hi List, long time no see :-)

I read this in the Softimage 2013 SP1 fix 
list:

SOFT-  Saving a scene with an ICE tree on a referenced model and loading it 
back up and you lose the ICE Tree completely.
However, when doing the following I lose the ICE Tree completely:
1) Get Primitive > Character > Biped
2) Right-Click > Convert to Reference
3) Create an ICE Tree on the character mesh
4) Save and reopen the scene
5) ICE Tree has disappeared!
Looks like it may be related to the enveloppe since everything works if the 
character is frozen or if I test against a simple sphere.
Someone confirmed to me that the same happens in 2014.
Any ideas?

Vincent
<>

ICE Tree on reference model, what gives?

[Vincent Fortin]

Hi List, long time no see :-)

I read this in the Softimage 2013 SP1 fix
list
:

*SOFT-  Saving a scene with an ICE tree on a referenced model and
loading it back up and you lose the ICE Tree completely.

*
However, when doing the following I lose the ICE Tree completely:

1) Get Primitive > Character > Biped
2) Right-Click > Convert to Reference
3) Create an ICE Tree on the character mesh
4) Save and reopen the scene
5) ICE Tree has disappeared!

Looks like it may be related to the enveloppe since everything works if the
character is frozen or if I test against a simple sphere.

Someone confirmed to me that the same happens in 2014.

Any ideas?

Vincent

Re: HQV Reliability

[Chris Chia]

HQV comes with caching mechanism in 2014.


On 18 Apr, 2013, at 1:52 AM, "Gustavo Eggert Boehs" 
mailto:gustav...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>From my experience it seems to be pretty reliable on most cases, although slow 
>in 2013. One thing that seems to make it really slow on my old nVidia card is 
>Bump mapping. On an iMac ATI bump mapping will just make it crash.


2013/4/17 Christopher 
mailto:christop...@thecreativesheep.ca>>
I want to know how many people can get HQV to work and how many cannot ?

A simple sphere will work without any crashes, if I load an object and turn on 
HQV, Softimage will crash, each and every time.  With software, little things 
can break other things, I changed the shader profile from nVidia OpenGL 3.x to 
Nvidia OpenGL 4.x seen in this image hoping that would solve the HQV crashes 
which did not solve anything.

 

::Christopher



--
Gustavo E Boehs
http://www.gustavoeb.com.br/blog
<>

Re: autodesk install housekeeping

[Ivan]

Yes it is safe to delete the folder

Ivan

Sent from my iPhone, please excuse for typos.

On 17 Apr, 2013, at 9:50 PM, "Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]" 
 wrote:

> Every time I install Autodesk software it leaves behind a folder in 
> C:/Autodesk with a lot of stuff that looks like installer content. Does 
> anyone know if this stuff is safe to delete or remove? Are there any adverse 
> effects in getting rid of it?
>  
> --
> Joey Ponthieux
> LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
> Mymic Technical Services
> NASA Langley Research Center
> __
> Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
> represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.
>  

Re: sorry - test

[Simon Anderson]

roger roger


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Maxime Philippon <
mphilippon.mailingl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> test succeeded! :)
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Sandy Sutherland <
> sandy.mailli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> testing - just joined the list with this email!
>>
>> S.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Max
>



-- 
---
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blog: http://vinyldevelopment.wordpress.com/

RE: unresponsive under win7

[Matt Lind]

OK, that at least narrows some things down.

All our plugins are in external workgroups.
SPDL cachenot sure what would tap into this.  We do have some SPDL 
based shaders, but nothing else.
Not sure about image proxies.  We don't use FXTree.

What I'm getting at is our environments are pretty consistent, but for some 
reason performing a given task in Softimage seems to throw a monkey wrench into 
everything.  The problem is figuring out the cause as we cannot find a 
consistent trigger which we can reproduce.  It has a very random feel to it.  
If there is something else we can try other than flushing the entire folder, 
that would be preferred as it's a real pain to have to reset preferences and 
everything else for a user each time this occurs.



Matt




-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric Rousseau
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:51 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: unresponsive under win7

Parsing a few strings separated by an equal sign once at the top of the 
application isn't going to cause the app to get flaky. In 12 mil
lines of code, that's not where the complexity is.   Anyway, that file
is ASCII, you can diff it, delete part of it until you find the offending 
issue, etc. There shouldn't be a cargo cult around this file.  Now deleting the 
whole user folder.. that does clears a few more complicated things, including 
perhaps some plug-ins, perhaps image proxies and a spdl cache.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:
> I don't buy that.
>
> I've had to clear out my preferences folder 4 times just in the past 6 weeks 
> for various issues in 2013 SP1.  I set very few preferences, and once they're 
> set I don't touch them anymore.  Yet weeks later performing this or that 
> Softimage suddenly gets very flakey.  Clearing out the preference folder 
> seems to be the only workaround.  This issue has been getting worse with each 
> release.  Most noticeably starting with 2010.  We rarely had to do this in 
> 7.5.
>
> There is something wrong with how tools are reading/writing that file.  I 
> have noticed it's organized as  = , but the 
> preference and '=' are separated by a tab instead of space.  Is it possible 
> there is code assuming it should be a space?
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric 
> Rousseau
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:34 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: unresponsive under win7
>
> the preferences file do not get corrupted, ever.  It's just an ascii file of 
> values.  The problem is people forgot what they have changed and installed 
> and that's a quick way to rule everything out.
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:
>> Something really needs to be done about that clearing XSI preference folder 
>> workaround.  We should never have to do that, yet it's the first suggestion 
>> for just about everything when something goes wrong.  If defaults.xsipref is 
>> that fragile, then perhaps it should be redesigned to be less corruptible.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
>

Re: unresponsive under win7

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

Parsing a few strings separated by an equal sign once at the top of
the application isn't going to cause the app to get flaky. In 12 mil
lines of code, that's not where the complexity is.   Anyway, that file
is ASCII, you can diff it, delete part of it until you find the
offending issue, etc. There shouldn't be a cargo cult around this
file.  Now deleting the whole user folder.. that does clears a few
more complicated things, including perhaps some plug-ins, perhaps
image proxies and a spdl cache.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:
> I don't buy that.
>
> I've had to clear out my preferences folder 4 times just in the past 6 weeks 
> for various issues in 2013 SP1.  I set very few preferences, and once they're 
> set I don't touch them anymore.  Yet weeks later performing this or that 
> Softimage suddenly gets very flakey.  Clearing out the preference folder 
> seems to be the only workaround.  This issue has been getting worse with each 
> release.  Most noticeably starting with 2010.  We rarely had to do this in 
> 7.5.
>
> There is something wrong with how tools are reading/writing that file.  I 
> have noticed it's organized as  = , but the 
> preference and '=' are separated by a tab instead of space.  Is it possible 
> there is code assuming it should be a space?
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric 
> Rousseau
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:34 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: Re: unresponsive under win7
>
> the preferences file do not get corrupted, ever.  It's just an ascii file of 
> values.  The problem is people forgot what they have changed and installed 
> and that's a quick way to rule everything out.
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:
>> Something really needs to be done about that clearing XSI preference folder 
>> workaround.  We should never have to do that, yet it's the first suggestion 
>> for just about everything when something goes wrong.  If defaults.xsipref is 
>> that fragile, then perhaps it should be redesigned to be less corruptible.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
>

RE: unresponsive under win7

[Matt Lind]

I don't buy that.

I've had to clear out my preferences folder 4 times just in the past 6 weeks 
for various issues in 2013 SP1.  I set very few preferences, and once they're 
set I don't touch them anymore.  Yet weeks later performing this or that 
Softimage suddenly gets very flakey.  Clearing out the preference folder seems 
to be the only workaround.  This issue has been getting worse with each 
release.  Most noticeably starting with 2010.  We rarely had to do this in 7.5.

There is something wrong with how tools are reading/writing that file.  I have 
noticed it's organized as  = , but the preference 
and '=' are separated by a tab instead of space.  Is it possible there is code 
assuming it should be a space?


Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Luc-Eric Rousseau
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:34 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: unresponsive under win7

the preferences file do not get corrupted, ever.  It's just an ascii file of 
values.  The problem is people forgot what they have changed and installed and 
that's a quick way to rule everything out.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:
> Something really needs to be done about that clearing XSI preference folder 
> workaround.  We should never have to do that, yet it's the first suggestion 
> for just about everything when something goes wrong.  If defaults.xsipref is 
> that fragile, then perhaps it should be redesigned to be less corruptible.
>
>
> Matt

RE: unresponsive under win7

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

Admittedly this is not a phenomenon specific to Soft. In the early days of Maya 
the first course of action, recommended by support when we had bizarre issues, 
was to delete or rename the prefs directory. It often helped and having done 
this enough times and having manually edited the userPrefs script file several 
times I came to the conclusion that it was not a clear explanation to say that 
the userPrefs file was corrupt or the actual fault.

 I think it's possible to suggest that settings saved in the file, that might 
otherwise be fine by themselves, when combined with other saved settings might 
have contributed to cause and effect. The point being that the problem 
potentially wasn't the contents of the prefs file itself or the file being 
corrupted somehow, but how or in what order some values were being saved and 
then reloaded that revealed obscure or bizarre issues in the software.  

This is all hypothetically speaking, of course.

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not 
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:41 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: unresponsive under win7

Something really needs to be done about that clearing XSI preference folder 
workaround.  We should never have to do that, yet it's the first suggestion for 
just about everything when something goes wrong.  If defaults.xsipref is that 
fragile, then perhaps it should be redesigned to be less corruptible.


Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chia
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: unresponsive under win7

Hi Sebastian,
Could you give us some info? Like any repro steps? And what's your machine 
specs? 
Also have you updated your graphics driver and cleared the XSI preference 
folder?


Regards,
Chris

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian Kowalski
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:28 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: unresponsive under win7

it doesnt matter if I have aero switched on or not, soft is unresponive, 
switching to other apps in the background or freezing up when running some 
heavier (even when they are running only on one thread) sims and/ or try to 
cache. and sometimes its not even writing the caches. its not crashing, it is 
coming back at some point (end of framerange) is this something only my side, 
or is somebody experiencing the same?

its so frustrating!

s.

Re: HQV Reliability

[Sebastien Sterling]

Just today, i was doing something extremely trivial, i made a preview eye
for a character with a gradiant node and phong on a sphere, for some reason
only the HQV can display this seemingly simple shader and everything
started to chug, geometry manipulation started to catch, slowdown, i was
baffled, as my neighbour seemed to be able to achieve this in maya's view
port without resorting to any such HQV settings... is this normal ?


On 17 April 2013 19:53, Christopher  wrote:

> The object I tried, doesn't have bump mapping. It works for you I see,
> 
>
> ::Christopher
>
>   Gustavo Eggert Boehs 
>  Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:52 PM
> From my experience it seems to be pretty reliable on most cases, although
> slow in 2013. One thing that seems to make it really slow on my old nVidia
> card is Bump mapping. On an iMac ATI bump mapping will just make it crash.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gustavo E Boehs
> http://www.gustavoeb.com.br/blog
>   Christopher 
>  Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:48 PM
>  I want to know how many people can get HQV to work and how many cannot ?
>
> A simple sphere will work without any crashes, if I load an object and
> turn on HQV, Softimage will crash, each and every time.  With software,
> little things can break other things, I changed the shader profile from
> nVidia OpenGL 3.x to Nvidia OpenGL 4.x seen in this image hoping that would
> solve the HQV crashes which did not solve anything.
>
>
>
> ::Christopher
>
>
<><><>

Re: unresponsive under win7

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

the preferences file do not get corrupted, ever.  It's just an ascii
file of values.  The problem is people forgot what they have changed
and installed and that's a quick way to rule everything out.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:
> Something really needs to be done about that clearing XSI preference folder 
> workaround.  We should never have to do that, yet it's the first suggestion 
> for just about everything when something goes wrong.  If defaults.xsipref is 
> that fragile, then perhaps it should be redesigned to be less corruptible.
>
>
> Matt

Re: autodesk install housekeeping

[Stephen Blair]

Oops. I didn't mean to send that, because I don't explain why the 
installer leaves it there.



On 17/04/2013 1:55 PM, Stephen Blair wrote:
Well, if you watch 61  seconds of my video about installing 2014, or 
any of my other install videos, you would know that the installer 
extracts itself to C:\Autodesk and leaves the files there.



On 17/04/2013 1:34 PM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:


Respectfully, I understand I can do that. That's not the concern.

There are no instructions and no warning or notification that this is 
intentionally left behind, that I am aware of. As a result its taking 
up huge disk resources. This is especially problematic on SSD drives 
since they tend to be much smaller than the average HD drives at 1TB. 
With multiple downloaded installs disk space starts disappearing at a 
rapid rate and there is no "apparent" cause.


In whatever case, it's poor etiquette. How much trouble would it be 
to delete it at the end of the install process or at a minimum warn 
the user in the last dialog of the install that it is there and that 
it can be deleted at will without harming the proper install. If it 
needs to remain or is advantageous to remain so be it, but some 
instructions and explanation as to why would be useful.


To be fair, Autodesk isn't the only offender here. The Adobe 
downloads are left behind as well. So while one developer might think 
it's a harmless practice to leave 10GB of useless data on someone's 
hard drive, cumulatively it is a real problem.


--

Joey Ponthieux

LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)

Mymic Technical Services

NASA Langley Research Center

__

Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not

represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

*From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Mirko 
Jankovic

*Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:06 PM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: autodesk install housekeeping

Instead of delete you can just move it to some install folder for 
later use if needed so no need to create that folder again just 
start installer straight from that folder :)


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:


Hi Stephen

It definitely left the download folder on my machine (this was both 
for the Softimage standalone and the full suite) This was using the 
DL manager (which works really well, even on my crappy connection)


Kind regards

Angus



*From:*Stephen Blair [stephenrbl...@gmail.com 
]

*Sent:* 17 April 2013 03:58 PM


*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 


*Subject:* Re: autodesk install housekeeping

Totally safe.
In fact, iirc, the new download manager does all that behind the 
scenes (extracts, installs, and then removes)


On 17/04/2013 9:50 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:

Every time I install Autodesk software it leaves behind a folder
in C:/Autodesk with a lot of stuff that looks like installer
content. Does anyone know if this stuff is safe to delete or
remove? Are there any adverse effects in getting rid of it?

--

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LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)

Mymic Technical Services

NASA Langley Research Center

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Re: HQV Reliability

[Christopher]

The object I tried, 
doesn't have bump mapping. It works for you I see, 

::Christopher


   	   
   	Gustavo Eggert Boehs  
  Wednesday, April 
17, 2013 1:52 PM
  From my 
experience it seems to be pretty reliable on most cases, although slow 
in 2013. One thing that seems to make it really slow on my old nVidia 
card is Bump mapping. On an iMac ATI bump mapping will just make it 
crash.
-- Gustavo
 E Boehshttp://www.gustavoeb.com.br/blog


  
   	   
   	Christopher  
  Wednesday, April 
17, 2013 1:48 PM
  

I want to know how many people can get HQV to work and how many cannot ?
 
  
A simple sphere will work without any crashes, if I load an object and 
turn on HQV, Softimage will crash, each and every time.  With software, 
little things can break other things, I changed the shader profile from 
nVidia OpenGL 3.x to Nvidia OpenGL 4.x seen in this image hoping that 
would solve the HQV crashes which did not solve anything.
  
 
  
::Christopher
  

Re: HQV Reliability

[Gustavo Eggert Boehs]

>From my experience it seems to be pretty reliable on most cases, although
slow in 2013. One thing that seems to make it really slow on my old nVidia
card is Bump mapping. On an iMac ATI bump mapping will just make it crash.


2013/4/17 Christopher 

>  I want to know how many people can get HQV to work and how many cannot ?
>
> A simple sphere will work without any crashes, if I load an object and
> turn on HQV, Softimage will crash, each and every time.  With software,
> little things can break other things, I changed the shader profile from
> nVidia OpenGL 3.x to Nvidia OpenGL 4.x seen in this image hoping that would
> solve the HQV crashes which did not solve anything.
>
>
>
> ::Christopher
>



-- 
Gustavo E Boehs
http://www.gustavoeb.com.br/blog
<>

HQV Reliability

[Christopher]

I want to know how many people can get HQV to work and how many cannot ?
 
  
A simple sphere will work without any crashes, if I load an object and 
turn on HQV, Softimage will crash, each and every time.  With software, 
little things can break other things, I changed the shader profile from 
nVidia OpenGL 3.x to Nvidia OpenGL 4.x seen in this image hoping that 
would solve the HQV crashes which did not solve anything.
  
 
  
::Christopher

Re: sorry - test

[Maxime Philippon]

test succeeded! :)


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Sandy Sutherland  wrote:

> testing - just joined the list with this email!
>
> S.
>



-- 
Max

RE: unresponsive under win7

[Matt Lind]

Something really needs to be done about that clearing XSI preference folder 
workaround.  We should never have to do that, yet it's the first suggestion for 
just about everything when something goes wrong.  If defaults.xsipref is that 
fragile, then perhaps it should be redesigned to be less corruptible.


Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chia
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: unresponsive under win7

Hi Sebastian,
Could you give us some info? Like any repro steps? And what's your machine 
specs? 
Also have you updated your graphics driver and cleared the XSI preference 
folder?


Regards,
Chris

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian Kowalski
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:28 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: unresponsive under win7

it doesnt matter if I have aero switched on or not, soft is unresponive, 
switching to other apps in the background or freezing up when running some 
heavier (even when they are running only on one thread) sims and/ or try to 
cache. and sometimes its not even writing the caches. its not crashing, it is 
coming back at some point (end of framerange) is this something only my side, 
or is somebody experiencing the same?

its so frustrating!

s.

sorry - test

[Sandy Sutherland]

testing - just joined the list with this email!

S.

RE: autodesk install housekeeping

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

Respectfully, I understand I can do that. That's not the concern.

There are no instructions and no warning or notification that this is 
intentionally left behind, that I am aware of. As a result its taking up huge 
disk resources. This is especially problematic on SSD drives since they tend to 
be much smaller than the average HD drives at 1TB. With multiple downloaded 
installs disk space starts disappearing at a rapid rate and there is no 
"apparent" cause.

In whatever case, it's poor etiquette. How much trouble would it be to delete 
it at the end of the install process or at a minimum warn the user in the last 
dialog of the install that it is there and that it can be deleted at will 
without harming the proper install. If it needs to remain or is advantageous to 
remain so be it, but some instructions and explanation as to why would be 
useful.

To be fair, Autodesk isn't the only offender here. The Adobe downloads are left 
behind as well. So while one developer might think it's a harmless practice to 
leave 10GB of useless data on someone's hard drive, cumulatively it is a real 
problem.

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Mirko Jankovic
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:06 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: autodesk install housekeeping

Instead of delete you can just move it to some install folder for later use if 
needed so no need to create that folder again just start installer straight 
from that folder :)

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Angus Davidson 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za>> wrote:
Hi Stephen

It definitely left the download folder on my machine (this was both for the 
Softimage standalone and the full suite) This was using the DL manager (which 
works really well, even on my crappy connection)

Kind regards

Angus

From: Stephen Blair [stephenrbl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 April 2013 03:58 PM

To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: autodesk install housekeeping

Totally safe.
In fact, iirc, the new download manager does all that behind the scenes 
(extracts, installs, and then removes)

On 17/04/2013 9:50 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:
Every time I install Autodesk software it leaves behind a folder in C:/Autodesk 
with a lot of stuff that looks like installer content. Does anyone know if this 
stuff is safe to delete or remove? Are there any adverse effects in getting rid 
of it?

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Re: autodesk install housekeeping

[Mirko Jankovic]

Instead of delete you can just move it to some install folder for later use
if needed so no need to create that folder again just
start installer straight from that folder :)


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Angus Davidson
wrote:

>  Hi Stephen
>
>  It definitely left the download folder on my machine (this was both for
> the Softimage standalone and the full suite) This was using the DL manager
> (which works really well, even on my crappy connection)
>
>  Kind regards
>
>  Angus
>  --
> *From:* Stephen Blair [stephenrbl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 17 April 2013 03:58 PM
>
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* Re: autodesk install housekeeping
>
>   Totally safe.
> In fact, iirc, the new download manager does all that behind the scenes
> (extracts, installs, and then removes)
>
> On 17/04/2013 9:50 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:
>
>  Every time I install Autodesk software it leaves behind a folder in
> C:/Autodesk with a lot of stuff that looks like installer content. Does
> anyone know if this stuff is safe to delete or remove? Are there any
> adverse effects in getting rid of it?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Joey Ponthieux
>
> LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
>
> Mymic Technical Services
>
> NASA Langley Research Center
>
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Re: Looking for some hair tools- willing to pay if some one to develop if it does not exist

[Sandy Sutherland]

Greg - have replied to you off list too!

S.

On 2013/04/17 6:32 PM, Greg Punchatz wrote:
I am in desperate need of for some additional tools for assisting in 
styling old school xsi hair.


What I need is a tool or tools that will look at neighboring hair 
strands and average out the hair length and direction of the hairs. 
Ideally this tool would let you control how far and how many 
neighboring it would look at to smooth the hair styles out.


Big picture idea is you could style hair very roughly then smooth it 
out with this tool set.




*Greg Punchatz*
*Sr. Creative Director*
Janimation
214.823.7760
www.janimation.com 

Re: Looking for some hair tools- willing to pay if some one to develop if it does not exist

[Martin Chatterjee]

Greg,

I might be able to help - I'll ping you off-list.

Cheers, Martin

--
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[ Freelance Technical Director ]
[   http://www.chatterjee.de   ]
[ https://vimeo.com/chatterjee ]


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Greg Punchatz  wrote:

>  I am in desperate need of for some additional tools for assisting in
> styling old school xsi hair.
>
> What I need is a tool or tools that will look at neighboring hair strands
> and average out the hair length and direction of the hairs. Ideally this
> tool would let you control how far and how many neighboring it would look
> at to smooth the hair styles out.
>
> Big picture idea is you could style hair very roughly then smooth it out
> with this tool set.
>
>
>  --
> *Greg Punchatz*
>  *Sr. Creative Director*
> Janimation
> 214.823.7760
> www.janimation.com
>
>

Looking for some hair tools- willing to pay if some one to develop if it does not exist

[Greg Punchatz]

I am in desperate need of for some additional tools for assisting in 
styling old school xsi hair.


What I need is a tool or tools that will look at neighboring hair 
strands and average out the hair length and direction of the hairs. 
Ideally this tool would let you control how far and how many neighboring 
it would look at to smooth the hair styles out.


Big picture idea is you could style hair very roughly then smooth it out 
with this tool set.




*Greg Punchatz*
*Sr. Creative Director*
Janimation
214.823.7760
www.janimation.com 

Re: Wanted: FFT ICE node

[Enrique Caballero]

please share :)


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Jens Lindgren
wrote:

> That sounds great!
> With iFFT do you mean inverse FFT? I think i need just the FFT but maybe
> you can do both?
>
> /Jens
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Amaan Akram wrote:
>
>> I wrote it to do 2D iFFT's. Never made it into a fully generic ice node.
>> Given time i could write one.
>>
>> If you need the 2d ifft node then i can send that before the weekend
>> On 17 Apr 2013 11:32, "Jens Lindgren" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome! Would be nice to have it before the weekend. Is that possible?
>>> When I'm done with the effect I'm doing I will share the compound here.
>>>
>>> /Jens
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Amaan Akram 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have one... somewhere... how soon do you need it?
 On 17 Apr 2013 10:52, "Jens Lindgren" 
 wrote:

> I wonder if someone out there has a raw FFT ICE node?
> I know there was one supplied with the very early versions of aaOcean
> but I don't have any of those old versions laying around.
>  There also seems to be some different sound plugins for Softimage
> that has FFT built in but I haven't found a raw FFT node.
> I'm looking for a node that can do both 1D and 2D FFT.
> It has happend more than once that I find the need for this and I hope
> in the future there could be some FFT toolkit nodes supplied with 
> Softimage.
>
> Crossing my fingers, hoping there is one out there :)
>
> --
> Jens Lindgren
> --
> Lead Technical Director
> Magoo 3D Studios 
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jens Lindgren
>>> --
>>> Lead Technical Director
>>> Magoo 3D Studios 
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jens Lindgren
> --
> Lead Technical Director
> Magoo 3D Studios 
>

Re: New baEssential Shader version

[Leonard Koch]

Awesome Holger.

Autodesk should have shelled out some money for these a long time ago!


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Schoenberger  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have released an update of my shaders.
> There have been some broken shader parts in the last version.
>
> You can download the update here:
> http://www.binaryalchemy.de/**index_dev.htm
>
>
> regards,
> Holger
>
>
>
>
>

New baEssential Shader version

[Schoenberger]

Hi

I have released an update of my shaders.
There have been some broken shader parts in the last version.

You can download the update here:
http://www.binaryalchemy.de/index_dev.htm


regards,
Holger

RE: autodesk install housekeeping

[Angus Davidson]

Hi Stephen

It definitely left the download folder on my machine (this was both for the 
Softimage standalone and the full suite) This was using the DL manager (which 
works really well, even on my crappy connection)

Kind regards

Angus

From: Stephen Blair [stephenrbl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 April 2013 03:58 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: autodesk install housekeeping

Totally safe.
In fact, iirc, the new download manager does all that behind the scenes 
(extracts, installs, and then removes)

On 17/04/2013 9:50 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:
Every time I install Autodesk software it leaves behind a folder in C:/Autodesk 
with a lot of stuff that looks like installer content. Does anyone know if this 
stuff is safe to delete or remove? Are there any adverse effects in getting rid 
of it?

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.





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RE: Softimage promo

[Angus Davidson]

Hi

I get what you are saying.  However you are missing the point. This is just 
simply for the folks who want to be able to right click on an exe file and add 
it to the start menu (note not the task menu) Its meant as nothing more then as 
a option to remove an annoyance  (and doing the workarounds is a additional 
process). You personally might not find it annoying, but there are those of us 
who do. Those who do can relieve that using a variety of methods.

To me this is very simple and elegant method. If I had the time I would expand 
it to be customizable in the same way that the batch file is to do away with 
that step completely but right now this is fine for me, possibly others as well.







From: Luc-Eric Rousseau [luceri...@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 April 2013 04:00 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage promo

By context menu, I mean the "Pin this program to the taskbar" item in the 
context menu of the Taskbar when Softimage is running. The problem is that this 
option pins xsi.exe because that's what running. If you make a launcher that 
starts xsi.bat and then quits, then it doesn't solve that problem because the 
running process is still xsi.exe. It just adds a launcher that launches another 
launcher (cmd.exe which launched the .bat file)  It solves the other problem, 
which is that it gives you something to drag on your taskbar, since .bat file 
won't work.

But you can take the shortcut for Softimage 2013 that is on your desktop, 
modify "Target" to add "cmd.exe " in front of "C\Program files...xsi.bat" and 
now you can drag and drop it onto the taskbar

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau 
mailto:luceri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 how does that fix the context menu the user is trying to use?
if you wanted something to put on the task bar directly, afaik you can already 
drag a standard windows shortcut to XSI.bat like ralf wrote


On Wednesday, April 17, 2013, Angus Davidson wrote:
Okay Just got tired of the issue so I created a small application. XSI Bounce

Just copy it into the Appplication/bin folder. It shouldn't matter what version 
you are using.

All it does is check to see if XSI.bat is there and if it is run the batch 
file. It will then quit. On fast machines you probably won't even notice it 
opening.

That way you can easily pin something to the Start Bar.

You can get it from http://db.tt/EG3p9Ihb

TODO. 1) Get a decent Icon, Currently just generic application Icon
2)Test to see if it works with network licensing

Kind regards

Angus

From: Rob Wuijster 
Reply-To: "r...@casema.nl" , "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 

Date: Tuesday 16 April 2013 4:08 PM
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
Subject: Re: Softimage promo

Funny that this stuff comes back with every new release of Softimage.
There's some solutions on this in the mail archives, and even on the forums.

Rob

\/-\/\/

On 16-4-2013 14:22, Angus Davidson wrote:

Is it not possible to write a launcher program that will do the same thing

as the batch file.

That way you can leave xsi.exe unchanged and it will still have what ever
it needs in place before it runs.



On 2013/04/16 1:41 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau"  wrote:



On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Szabolcs Matefy 
wrote:


To me (Win7 latest updates) it¹s not available. It wants to pin to the
exisiting Icons, but not the taskbar. However, Maya, Max, ZBrush and all
other programs offer the option


None of these apps offer this option, this is a task bar menu
"offered" by Microsoft.  It creates  shortcut to Softimage.exe but
Softimage needs to be started by a .bat file, because that's how we
set the environment variable per-version.  Don't know if it's worth to
come up with a combination of different systems to replace that just
to work around that taskbar menu.

1) Run Softimage, right click on taskbar and select "Pin this program
to taskbar"
2) quit Softimage (important otherwise step 3 won't work)
3) shift-right-click on the Softimage icon on the taskbar and select
Properties
4) change xsi.exe to xsi.bat





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Re: unresponsive under win7

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

The problem should be fixed is in Sofitmage : having the progress
dialog in a separate thread, plus poll for the cancel button more
often, so that you can click cancel (although ICE may not be able to
cancel in the middle of a frame)

For the other problems, the "unresponsive" message windows gives is a
symptom, it isn't the cause of the problem.  Is the problem that
windows is graying out Softimage's window?  If so, the only
work-around for not is to ... browse the web/check mail on something
another machine.  But if you want to try changing the "unresponsive"
time out value, you can try this (reboot after change)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc978614.aspx

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Sebastian Kowalski  wrote:
> i understand, but is this something i have to live with, or is there some 
> kind of workaround?
> like setting the win7 "not responding" threshold higher …
> dont get me wrong, i understand that softimage has to process all that crap i 
> told it to do (siming, caching ..)
> but that not responding, not able to stop or the worst case not displaying/ 
> caching when playing forward is not acceptable.
> i use softimage as fx tool these days and mostly just waiting for the gui to 
> come back is exhausting.
>
> btw. updating the quadro driver helped a bit, the window switching is gone.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 17.04.2013 um 15:35 schrieb Luc-Eric Rousseau :
>
>> it's not necessarily unusual to get the "unresponsive" message if
>> you're doing "heavier sims and/ or try to cache"  It might also worsen
>> if the file I/O is expensive, for example if you're writing to the
>> network of a compress/encrypted drive.  The UI is not running in a
>> separate thread in XSI, so when it runs a sim it's taking breaks every
>> once in a while to process messages (especially for the Cancel button
>> on the progress bar), but those pauses can be too far in-between if
>> each frame is heavy.
>>
>> Windows's window manager is putting up that message for any
>> application that stops processing windows messages for more than a
>> couple of seconds. It doesn't mean the application is hung and needs
>> to be killed. It just means it's hasn't redrawn  its window and
>> processed mouse messages for a while.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Sebastian Kowalski  wrote:
>>> ive updated the gpu driver, lets see how softimage behaves today..
>>> cant really repro that, kinda random behavior.
>>> its a brand new hp z820 i am working on. but i had this flaws for some time 
>>> now, on different machines.
>>>
>>> well get back at you
>>> s.
>>>
>>> Am 17.04.2013 um 04:02 schrieb Chris Chia :
>>>
 Hi Sebastian,
 Could you give us some info? Like any repro steps? And what's your machine 
 specs?
 Also have you updated your graphics driver and cleared the XSI preference 
 folder?


 Regards,
 Chris

 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian 
 Kowalski
 Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:28 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: unresponsive under win7

 it doesnt matter if I have aero switched on or not, soft is unresponive, 
 switching to other apps in the background or freezing up when running some 
 heavier (even when they are running only on one thread) sims and/ or try 
 to cache. and sometimes its not even writing the caches. its not crashing, 
 it is coming back at some point (end of framerange) is this something only 
 my side, or is somebody experiencing the same?

 its so frustrating!
>>
>
>

RE: autodesk install housekeeping

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

I used the download system on the subscription site, and it left data behind 
for 2014. I don't know if that is iirc or not.

Thanks

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LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
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From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Blair
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:58 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: autodesk install housekeeping

Totally safe.
In fact, iirc, the new download manager does all that behind the scenes 
(extracts, installs, and then removes)

On 17/04/2013 9:50 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:
Every time I install Autodesk software it leaves behind a folder in C:/Autodesk 
with a lot of stuff that looks like installer content. Does anyone know if this 
stuff is safe to delete or remove? Are there any adverse effects in getting rid 
of it?

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

Re: unresponsive under win7

[Sebastian Kowalski]

i understand, but is this something i have to live with, or is there some kind 
of workaround? 
like setting the win7 "not responding" threshold higher … 
dont get me wrong, i understand that softimage has to process all that crap i 
told it to do (siming, caching ..)
but that not responding, not able to stop or the worst case not displaying/ 
caching when playing forward is not acceptable.  
i use softimage as fx tool these days and mostly just waiting for the gui to 
come back is exhausting. 

btw. updating the quadro driver helped a bit, the window switching is gone.






Am 17.04.2013 um 15:35 schrieb Luc-Eric Rousseau :

> it's not necessarily unusual to get the "unresponsive" message if
> you're doing "heavier sims and/ or try to cache"  It might also worsen
> if the file I/O is expensive, for example if you're writing to the
> network of a compress/encrypted drive.  The UI is not running in a
> separate thread in XSI, so when it runs a sim it's taking breaks every
> once in a while to process messages (especially for the Cancel button
> on the progress bar), but those pauses can be too far in-between if
> each frame is heavy.
> 
> Windows's window manager is putting up that message for any
> application that stops processing windows messages for more than a
> couple of seconds. It doesn't mean the application is hung and needs
> to be killed. It just means it's hasn't redrawn  its window and
> processed mouse messages for a while.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Sebastian Kowalski  wrote:
>> ive updated the gpu driver, lets see how softimage behaves today..
>> cant really repro that, kinda random behavior.
>> its a brand new hp z820 i am working on. but i had this flaws for some time 
>> now, on different machines.
>> 
>> well get back at you
>> s.
>> 
>> Am 17.04.2013 um 04:02 schrieb Chris Chia :
>> 
>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>> Could you give us some info? Like any repro steps? And what's your machine 
>>> specs?
>>> Also have you updated your graphics driver and cleared the XSI preference 
>>> folder?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
>>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian 
>>> Kowalski
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:28 PM
>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>> Subject: unresponsive under win7
>>> 
>>> it doesnt matter if I have aero switched on or not, soft is unresponive, 
>>> switching to other apps in the background or freezing up when running some 
>>> heavier (even when they are running only on one thread) sims and/ or try to 
>>> cache. and sometimes its not even writing the caches. its not crashing, it 
>>> is coming back at some point (end of framerange) is this something only my 
>>> side, or is somebody experiencing the same?
>>> 
>>> its so frustrating!
> 

Re: Softimage promo

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

By context menu, I mean the "Pin this program to the taskbar" item in the
context menu of the Taskbar when Softimage is running. The problem is that
this option pins xsi.exe because that's what running. If you make a
launcher that starts xsi.bat and then quits, then it doesn't solve that
problem because the running process is still xsi.exe. It just adds a
launcher that launches another launcher (cmd.exe which launched the .bat
file)  It solves the other problem, which is that it gives you something to
drag on your taskbar, since .bat file won't work.

But you can take the shortcut for Softimage 2013 that is on your desktop,
modify "Target" to add "cmd.exe " in front of "C\Program files...xsi.bat"
and now you can drag and drop it onto the taskbar

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

>  how does that fix the context menu the user is trying to use?
> if you wanted something to put on the task bar directly, afaik you can
> already drag a standard windows shortcut to XSI.bat like ralf wrote
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2013, Angus Davidson wrote:
>
>>  Okay Just got tired of the issue so I created a small application. XSI
>> Bounce
>>
>>  Just copy it into the Appplication/bin folder. It shouldn't matter what
>> version you are using.
>>
>>  All it does is check to see if XSI.bat is there and if it is run the
>> batch file. It will then quit. On fast machines you probably won't even
>> notice it opening.
>>
>>  That way you can easily pin something to the Start Bar.
>>
>>  You can get it from http://db.tt/EG3p9Ihb
>>
>>  TODO. 1) Get a decent Icon, Currently just generic application Icon
>> 2)Test to see if it works with network licensing
>>
>>  Kind regards
>>
>>  Angus
>>
>>   From: Rob Wuijster 
>> Reply-To: "r...@casema.nl" , "
>> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
>> Date: Tuesday 16 April 2013 4:08 PM
>> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
>> Subject: Re: Softimage promo
>>
>>   Funny that this stuff comes back with every new release of Softimage.
>> There's some solutions on this in the mail archives, and even on the
>> forums.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> \/-\/\/
>>
>> On 16-4-2013 14:22, Angus Davidson wrote:
>>
>> Is it not possible to write a launcher program that will do the same thing
>>
>> as the batch file.
>>
>> That way you can leave xsi.exe unchanged and it will still have what ever
>> it needs in place before it runs.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2013/04/16 1:41 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Szabolcs Matefy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  To me (Win7 latest updates) it¹s not available. It wants to pin to the
>> exisiting Icons, but not the taskbar. However, Maya, Max, ZBrush and all
>> other programs offer the option
>>
>>  None of these apps offer this option, this is a task bar menu
>> "offered" by Microsoft.  It creates  shortcut to Softimage.exe but
>> Softimage needs to be started by a .bat file, because that's how we
>> set the environment variable per-version.  Don't know if it's worth to
>> come up with a combination of different systems to replace that just
>> to work around that taskbar menu.
>>
>> 1) Run Softimage, right click on taskbar and select "Pin this program
>> to taskbar"
>> 2) quit Softimage (important otherwise step 3 won't work)
>> 3) shift-right-click on the Softimage icon on the taskbar and select
>> Properties
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Re: autodesk install housekeeping

[Stephen Blair]

Totally safe.
In fact, iirc, the new download manager does all that behind the scenes 
(extracts, installs, and then removes)


On 17/04/2013 9:50 AM, Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] wrote:


Every time I install Autodesk software it leaves behind a folder in 
C:/Autodesk with a lot of stuff that looks like installer content. 
Does anyone know if this stuff is safe to delete or remove? Are there 
any adverse effects in getting rid of it?


--

Joey Ponthieux

LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)

Mymic Technical Services

NASA Langley Research Center

__

Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not

represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

Re: Autodesk Documentation Favorites ?

[Stephen Blair]

  
  
Actually the faves go into Local
  Storage.
  I was mislead by this line in the js:
   var cookieWorker = new CookieWorker(top.document, "autodesk_online_help_favorites", 24000);
  
  On 17/04/2013 9:28 AM, Christopher wrote:


  
  Within Chrome I look for all the cookies relevant to 'autodesk'
  within each cookie I don't see anything related to the bookmarks
  besides some scripts tags and divs.  I installed a cookie
  extension for chrome, same info the cookie extension showed me as
  I found my own. Either I don't know how to read Morse 'cookie'
  code or I'm looking in the wrote spot.  
  
  Christopher
  

  


  Rob Wuijster

  Wednesday,
  April 17, 2013 5:05 AM
  


  
  christopher's posts seem to have that effect
  on people..

  Rob
  
  \/-\/\/
On 17-4-2013 10:29, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
  
  


  


  Guillaume Laforge

  Wednesday,
  April 17, 2013 4:29 AM
  


  I think with some very little efforts, this
thread got its chance to be nominated as "one of the best"
this year.

  
  

  


  


  Christopher

  Monday,
  April 15, 2013 10:52 PM
  


  
  Blair, do you know what cookie I should be looking at the
  source code for ?
  I have (5) looked into the source code for the ones I found
  could be the most relevant, although the information that I
  was expecting to find, I didn't find.
  
  ::Christopher


  


  Stephen Blair

  Monday,
  April 15, 2013 5:50 PM
  


  
  In whatever flavour is your
favorite. They're magic cookies, eh.

On 15/04/2013 5:31 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
  
  


  


  Alan Fregtman

  Monday,
  April 15, 2013 5:31 PM
  


  What flavour? ;) Chocolate chip?


  
  


  

  


  

autodesk install housekeeping

[Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]]

Every time I install Autodesk software it leaves behind a folder in C:/Autodesk 
with a lot of stuff that looks like installer content. Does anyone know if this 
stuff is safe to delete or remove? Are there any adverse effects in getting rid 
of it?

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

Re: Autodesk Documentation Favorites ?

[Rob Wuijster]

  
  
did you look in the right cookie.jar?
  

Rob

\/-\/\/
  On 17-4-2013 15:28, Christopher wrote:


  
  Within Chrome I look for all the cookies relevant to 'autodesk'
  within each cookie I don't see anything related to the bookmarks
  besides some scripts tags and divs.  I installed a cookie
  extension for chrome, same info the cookie extension showed me as
  I found my own. Either I don't know how to read Morse 'cookie'
  code or I'm looking in the wrote spot.  
  
  Christopher
  

  


  Rob Wuijster

  Wednesday,
  April 17, 2013 5:05 AM
  


  
  christopher's posts seem to have that effect
  on people..

  Rob
  
  \/-\/\/
On 17-4-2013 10:29, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
  
  


  


  Guillaume Laforge

  Wednesday,
  April 17, 2013 4:29 AM
  


  I think with some very little efforts, this
thread got its chance to be nominated as "one of the best"
this year.

  
  

  


  


  Christopher

  Monday,
  April 15, 2013 10:52 PM
  


  
  Blair, do you know what cookie I should be looking at the
  source code for ?
  I have (5) looked into the source code for the ones I found
  could be the most relevant, although the information that I
  was expecting to find, I didn't find.
  
  ::Christopher


  


  Stephen Blair

  Monday,
  April 15, 2013 5:50 PM
  


  
  In whatever flavour is your
favorite. They're magic cookies, eh.

On 15/04/2013 5:31 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
  
  


  


  Alan Fregtman

  Monday,
  April 15, 2013 5:31 PM
  


  What flavour? ;) Chocolate chip?


  
  


  

  
  No virus
found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6249 - Release Date:
04/16/13


  

Re: Autodesk Documentation Favorites ?

[Rob Chapman]

woosh! there it is again Christopher, straight over your head.

the rest..  please don't encourage him !

[image: Inline images 1]




On 17 April 2013 15:28, Christopher  wrote:

> Within Chrome I look for all the cookies relevant to 'autodesk' within
> each cookie I don't see anything related to the bookmarks besides some
> scripts tags and divs.  I installed a cookie extension for chrome, same
> info the cookie extension showed me as I found my own. Either I don't know
> how to read Morse 'cookie' code or I'm looking in the wrote spot.
>
> Christopher
>
>   Rob Wuijster 
>  Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:05 AM
>  christopher's posts seem to have that effect on people..
>
> Rob
>
> \/-\/\/
> On 17-4-2013 10:29, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>
>   Guillaume Laforge 
>  Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:29 AM
> I think with some very little efforts, this thread got its chance to be
> nominated as "one of the best" this year.
>
>
>
>   Christopher 
>  Monday, April 15, 2013 10:52 PM
>  Blair, do you know what cookie I should be looking at the source code for
> ?
> I have (5) looked into the source code for the ones I found could be the
> most relevant, although the information that I was expecting to find, I
> didn't find.
>
> ::Christopher
>   Stephen Blair 
>  Monday, April 15, 2013 5:50 PM
>  In whatever flavour is your favorite. They're magic cookies, eh.
>
> On 15/04/2013 5:31 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
>
>   Alan Fregtman 
>  Monday, April 15, 2013 5:31 PM
> What flavour? ;) Chocolate chip?
>
>
>
>
>
<><><><><>

Re: unresponsive under win7

[Martin yara]

Do you have any invalid source in your scene?

Martin

On 2013/04/17, at 19:35, Sebastian Kowalski  wrote:

> ive updated the gpu driver, lets see how softimage behaves today..
> cant really repro that, kinda random behavior.
> its a brand new hp z820 i am working on. but i had this flaws for some time 
> now, on different machines.
>
> well get back at you
> s.
>
> Am 17.04.2013 um 04:02 schrieb Chris Chia :
>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> Could you give us some info? Like any repro steps? And what's your machine 
>> specs?
>> Also have you updated your graphics driver and cleared the XSI preference 
>> folder?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian 
>> Kowalski
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:28 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: unresponsive under win7
>>
>> it doesnt matter if I have aero switched on or not, soft is unresponive, 
>> switching to other apps in the background or freezing up when running some 
>> heavier (even when they are running only on one thread) sims and/ or try to 
>> cache. and sometimes its not even writing the caches. its not crashing, it 
>> is coming back at some point (end of framerange) is this something only my 
>> side, or is somebody experiencing the same?
>>
>> its so frustrating!
>>
>> s.
>>
>>
>> 
>
>

Re: unresponsive under win7

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

it's not necessarily unusual to get the "unresponsive" message if
you're doing "heavier sims and/ or try to cache"  It might also worsen
if the file I/O is expensive, for example if you're writing to the
network of a compress/encrypted drive.  The UI is not running in a
separate thread in XSI, so when it runs a sim it's taking breaks every
once in a while to process messages (especially for the Cancel button
on the progress bar), but those pauses can be too far in-between if
each frame is heavy.

Windows's window manager is putting up that message for any
application that stops processing windows messages for more than a
couple of seconds. It doesn't mean the application is hung and needs
to be killed. It just means it's hasn't redrawn  its window and
processed mouse messages for a while.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Sebastian Kowalski  wrote:
> ive updated the gpu driver, lets see how softimage behaves today..
> cant really repro that, kinda random behavior.
> its a brand new hp z820 i am working on. but i had this flaws for some time 
> now, on different machines.
>
> well get back at you
> s.
>
> Am 17.04.2013 um 04:02 schrieb Chris Chia :
>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> Could you give us some info? Like any repro steps? And what's your machine 
>> specs?
>> Also have you updated your graphics driver and cleared the XSI preference 
>> folder?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
>> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian 
>> Kowalski
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:28 PM
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>> Subject: unresponsive under win7
>>
>> it doesnt matter if I have aero switched on or not, soft is unresponive, 
>> switching to other apps in the background or freezing up when running some 
>> heavier (even when they are running only on one thread) sims and/ or try to 
>> cache. and sometimes its not even writing the caches. its not crashing, it 
>> is coming back at some point (end of framerange) is this something only my 
>> side, or is somebody experiencing the same?
>>
>> its so frustrating!

Re: Autodesk Documentation Favorites ?

[Christopher]

Within Chrome I look for 
all the cookies relevant to 'autodesk' within each cookie I don't see 
anything related to the bookmarks besides some scripts tags and divs.  I
 installed a cookie extension for chrome, same info the cookie extension
 showed me as I found my own. Either I don't know how to read Morse 
'cookie' code or I'm looking in the wrote spot.  

Christopher

   	   
   	Rob Wuijster  
  Wednesday, April 
17, 2013 5:05 AM
  
  

  
christopher's posts seem to have that effect on
people..
  Rob\/-\/\/
  On 17-4-2013 10:29, Guillaume Laforge wrote:



  
   	   
   	Guillaume Laforge  
  Wednesday, April 
17, 2013 4:29 AM
  I think with 
some very little efforts, this thread got its chance to be nominated as 
"one of the best" this year.

  
   	   
   	Christopher  
  Monday, April 15,
 2013 10:52 PM
  

Blair, do you know what 
cookie I should be looking at the source code for ?
I have (5) looked into the source code for the ones I found could be the
 most relevant, although the information that I was expecting to find, I
 didn't find.

::Christopher

  
   	   
   	Stephen Blair  
  Monday, April 15,
 2013 5:50 PM
  
  

  
In whatever flavour is your favorite.
  They're magic cookies, eh.
  
  On 15/04/2013 5:31 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote:



  
   	   
   	Alan Fregtman  
  Monday, April 15,
 2013 5:31 PM
  What flavour? ;)
 Chocolate chip?

  

Issue with referenced Facerobot rig

[Bartek Opatowiecki]

Hey,

I have referenced facerobot rig model and all of its controls
local position attribute is locked (all axes).
Do you Guys have any idea how to unlock this attributes ?

Thanks

SSS shader error at render

[Claudio Pavan]

Hi Guys I imagine this topic has been covered as it's a bug that seems to be
around since 2010.

Whenever I use the sss fast skin shader and I have an object in the scene
that has a transparency map on it/ or hair with FG activated I get the
following error at render time:
' ERROR : PHEN 0.4314 MB error: Internal error: misss_call_shader:
Unexpected state->type case.

Eventually the scene will crash.

Work around would be to hide the objects with transparency but this becomes
a huge task and really would like to avoid it if possible.

Thanks in advance.

Claudio 

Re: Softimage promo

[Luc-Eric Rousseau]

 how does that fix the context menu the user is trying to use?
if you wanted something to put on the task bar directly, afaik you can
already drag a standard windows shortcut to XSI.bat like ralf wrote

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013, Angus Davidson wrote:

>  Okay Just got tired of the issue so I created a small application. XSI
> Bounce
>
>  Just copy it into the Appplication/bin folder. It shouldn't matter what
> version you are using.
>
>  All it does is check to see if XSI.bat is there and if it is run the
> batch file. It will then quit. On fast machines you probably won't even
> notice it opening.
>
>  That way you can easily pin something to the Start Bar.
>
>  You can get it from http://db.tt/EG3p9Ihb
>
>  TODO. 1) Get a decent Icon, Currently just generic application Icon
> 2)Test to see if it works with network licensing
>
>  Kind regards
>
>  Angus
>
>   From: Rob Wuijster  'r...@casema.nl');>>
> Reply-To: "r...@casema.nl "
> >, "
> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com  'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com');>" 
>  'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com');>
> >
> Date: Tuesday 16 April 2013 4:08 PM
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com  'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com');>" 
>  'softimage@listproc.autodesk.com');>
> >
> Subject: Re: Softimage promo
>
>   Funny that this stuff comes back with every new release of Softimage.
> There's some solutions on this in the mail archives, and even on the
> forums.
>
> Rob
>
> \/-\/\/
>
> On 16-4-2013 14:22, Angus Davidson wrote:
>
> Is it not possible to write a launcher program that will do the same thing
>
> as the batch file.
>
> That way you can leave xsi.exe unchanged and it will still have what ever
> it needs in place before it runs.
>
>
>
> On 2013/04/16 1:41 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau"  
>  wrote:
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Szabolcs Matefy  
> 
> wrote:
>
>  To me (Win7 latest updates) it¹s not available. It wants to pin to the
> exisiting Icons, but not the taskbar. However, Maya, Max, ZBrush and all
> other programs offer the option
>
>  None of these apps offer this option, this is a task bar menu
> "offered" by Microsoft.  It creates  shortcut to Softimage.exe but
> Softimage needs to be started by a .bat file, because that's how we
> set the environment variable per-version.  Don't know if it's worth to
> come up with a combination of different systems to replace that just
> to work around that taskbar menu.
>
> 1) Run Softimage, right click on taskbar and select "Pin this program
> to taskbar"
> 2) quit Softimage (important otherwise step 3 won't work)
> 3) shift-right-click on the Softimage icon on the taskbar and select
> Properties
> 4) change xsi.exe to xsi.bat
>
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Re: Wanted: FFT ICE node

[Jens Lindgren]

That sounds great!
With iFFT do you mean inverse FFT? I think i need just the FFT but maybe
you can do both?

/Jens


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Amaan Akram wrote:

> I wrote it to do 2D iFFT's. Never made it into a fully generic ice node.
> Given time i could write one.
>
> If you need the 2d ifft node then i can send that before the weekend
> On 17 Apr 2013 11:32, "Jens Lindgren"  wrote:
>
>> Awesome! Would be nice to have it before the weekend. Is that possible?
>> When I'm done with the effect I'm doing I will share the compound here.
>>
>> /Jens
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Amaan Akram wrote:
>>
>>> I have one... somewhere... how soon do you need it?
>>> On 17 Apr 2013 10:52, "Jens Lindgren" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I wonder if someone out there has a raw FFT ICE node?
 I know there was one supplied with the very early versions of aaOcean
 but I don't have any of those old versions laying around.
  There also seems to be some different sound plugins for Softimage that
 has FFT built in but I haven't found a raw FFT node.
 I'm looking for a node that can do both 1D and 2D FFT.
 It has happend more than once that I find the need for this and I hope
 in the future there could be some FFT toolkit nodes supplied with 
 Softimage.

 Crossing my fingers, hoping there is one out there :)

 --
 Jens Lindgren
 --
 Lead Technical Director
 Magoo 3D Studios 

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jens Lindgren
>> --
>> Lead Technical Director
>> Magoo 3D Studios 
>>
>


-- 
Jens Lindgren
--
Lead Technical Director
Magoo 3D Studios 

Re: Wanted: FFT ICE node

[Amaan Akram]

I wrote it to do 2D iFFT's. Never made it into a fully generic ice node.
Given time i could write one.

If you need the 2d ifft node then i can send that before the weekend
On 17 Apr 2013 11:32, "Jens Lindgren"  wrote:

> Awesome! Would be nice to have it before the weekend. Is that possible?
> When I'm done with the effect I'm doing I will share the compound here.
>
> /Jens
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Amaan Akram wrote:
>
>> I have one... somewhere... how soon do you need it?
>> On 17 Apr 2013 10:52, "Jens Lindgren" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder if someone out there has a raw FFT ICE node?
>>> I know there was one supplied with the very early versions of aaOcean
>>> but I don't have any of those old versions laying around.
>>>  There also seems to be some different sound plugins for Softimage that
>>> has FFT built in but I haven't found a raw FFT node.
>>> I'm looking for a node that can do both 1D and 2D FFT.
>>> It has happend more than once that I find the need for this and I hope
>>> in the future there could be some FFT toolkit nodes supplied with Softimage.
>>>
>>> Crossing my fingers, hoping there is one out there :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jens Lindgren
>>> --
>>> Lead Technical Director
>>> Magoo 3D Studios 
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Jens Lindgren
> --
> Lead Technical Director
> Magoo 3D Studios 
>

Re: unresponsive under win7

[Sebastian Kowalski]

ive updated the gpu driver, lets see how softimage behaves today..
cant really repro that, kinda random behavior. 
its a brand new hp z820 i am working on. but i had this flaws for some time 
now, on different machines.

well get back at you
s.

Am 17.04.2013 um 04:02 schrieb Chris Chia :

> Hi Sebastian,
> Could you give us some info? Like any repro steps? And what's your machine 
> specs? 
> Also have you updated your graphics driver and cleared the XSI preference 
> folder?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Chris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian 
> Kowalski
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:28 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: unresponsive under win7
> 
> it doesnt matter if I have aero switched on or not, soft is unresponive, 
> switching to other apps in the background or freezing up when running some 
> heavier (even when they are running only on one thread) sims and/ or try to 
> cache. and sometimes its not even writing the caches. its not crashing, it is 
> coming back at some point (end of framerange) is this something only my side, 
> or is somebody experiencing the same?
> 
> its so frustrating!
> 
> s.
> 
> 
> 

RE: How to make a deformer absolute ?

[Chris Chia]

Hi Bartek,
And in the example shown in the previous email (see below):
X3DObject l_child = Application().GetActiveSceneRoot().FindChild( l_name, L"", 
CStringArray() );
PolygonMesh meshModeling = l_child.GetActivePrimitive( ).GetGeometry( 0, 
siConstructionModeModeling );

Because we are using GetActiveSceneRoot(), we are able to use the 
siConstructionModeModeling flag and it would return geometry from the last 
operator of the Modeling stack.

However, if you use:

PolygonMesh meshAnimation(prim.GetGeometry(0,siConstructionModeAnimation));

It will ignore the siConstructionModeAnimation flag and return the geo from the 
operator below itself it's same stack.
And one minor issue we spotted from your code sample, we believe it should be:

Application().LogMessage(CString(delta.GetX())+":"+CString(delta.GetY())+":"+CString(delta.GetZ()));

Hope this helps.



Regards,
Chris

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Chia
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:04 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: How to make a deformer absolute ?

Hi Bartek,
See our Dev's comment below:
--
Following code should help in his problem:

   Primitive prim = ctxt.GetInputValue( 0 );
   CString l_name = prim.GetFullName( );
   l_name = l_name.GetSubString( 0, l_name.FindString( L".polymsh" ) );
   X3DObject l_child = Application().GetActiveSceneRoot().FindChild( 
l_name, L"", CStringArray() );
   PolygonMesh meshModeling = l_child.GetActivePrimitive( ).GetGeometry( 0, 
siConstructionModeModeling );

   PolygonMesh 
meshAnimation(prim.GetGeometry(0,siConstructionModeAnimation));

   CVertexRefArray pointsModeling(meshModeling.GetVertices());
   CVertexRefArray pointsAnimation(meshAnimation.GetVertices());

   MATH::CVector3Array vectorsModeling = pointsModeling.GetPositionArray();
   MATH::CVector3Array vectorsAnimation = 
pointsAnimation.GetPositionArray();

   for (int p=0;pmailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Bartek Opatowiecki
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:25 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: How to make a deformer absolute ?

Is this simple code is going to give me a delta vector between
base model and deformed one while called from within a customOperator ?

PolygonMesh 
meshModeling(prim.GetGeometry(0,siConstructionModeModeling));
PolygonMesh 
meshAnimation(prim.GetGeometry(0,siConstructionModeAnimation));

CVertexRefArray pointsModeling(meshModeling.GetVertices());
CVertexRefArray pointsAnimation(meshAnimation.GetVertices());

CVector3Array vectorsModeling = pointsModeling.GetPositionArray();
CVector3Array vectorsAnimation = pointsAnimation.GetPositionArray();

for (int p=0;pmailto:chris.c...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
Hi Bartek,
See below for our Dev's comments on your script:

His example code is not clear. In first 2 lines, user works with input at line 
2 which is mesh. In line 3, he works with outMesh.

Our dev gives the following example:
   Primitive prim = ctxt.GetInputValue( 0 );
   PolygonMesh mesh( prim.GetGeometry( 0, siConstructionModeAnimation ) );
   CVertexRefArray points = mesh.GetVertices();
   MATH::CVector3Array pos = points.GetPositionArray();
   const MATH::CVector3* l_pSrc = &pos[0];

l_pSrc contains non-zero values.


Hope this explains.


From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
 On Behalf Of Bartek Opatowiecki
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: How to make a deformer absolute ?

Primitive prim = (CRef)ctx.GetInputValue(0,0);
PolygonMesh mesh(prim.GetGeometry(0,siConstructionModeAnimation));
CVertexRefArray outPoints = outMesh.GetVertices();
CVector3Array pos = outPoints.GetPositionArray();

I'm calling that block of code from inside of a customOperator, ok ?
There is an Envelope Operator below. It has some bones
 so the mesh is being deformed by that bones.

PolygonMesh
 - Secondary Shape Modeling
 - Animation
  - MyOperator
  - EnvelopeOperator ->
  -Shape Modeling
 - Modeling

How to get result of  "EnvelopeOperator" as an Array of absolute vectors, from 
within "MyOperator" Update callback ?
Actually  "pos " is filled with zeroes.

Hope, you get what I mean :)

Thanks


On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>>>
 wrote:
If you transform the vectors by the global kine transform of the object they 
come from they will be in world space.
Assuming you are reading from another objec

RE: How to make a deformer absolute ?

[Chris Chia]

Hi Bartek,
See our Dev's comment below:
--
Following code should help in his problem:

   Primitive prim = ctxt.GetInputValue( 0 );
   CString l_name = prim.GetFullName( );
   l_name = l_name.GetSubString( 0, l_name.FindString( L".polymsh" ) );
   X3DObject l_child = Application().GetActiveSceneRoot().FindChild( 
l_name, L"", CStringArray() );
   PolygonMesh meshModeling = l_child.GetActivePrimitive( ).GetGeometry( 0, 
siConstructionModeModeling );

   PolygonMesh 
meshAnimation(prim.GetGeometry(0,siConstructionModeAnimation));

   CVertexRefArray pointsModeling(meshModeling.GetVertices());
   CVertexRefArray pointsAnimation(meshAnimation.GetVertices());

   MATH::CVector3Array vectorsModeling = pointsModeling.GetPositionArray();
   MATH::CVector3Array vectorsAnimation = 
pointsAnimation.GetPositionArray();

   for (int p=0;pmailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Bartek Opatowiecki
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:25 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: How to make a deformer absolute ?

Is this simple code is going to give me a delta vector between
base model and deformed one while called from within a customOperator ?

PolygonMesh 
meshModeling(prim.GetGeometry(0,siConstructionModeModeling));
PolygonMesh 
meshAnimation(prim.GetGeometry(0,siConstructionModeAnimation));

CVertexRefArray pointsModeling(meshModeling.GetVertices());
CVertexRefArray pointsAnimation(meshAnimation.GetVertices());

CVector3Array vectorsModeling = pointsModeling.GetPositionArray();
CVector3Array vectorsAnimation = pointsAnimation.GetPositionArray();

for (int p=0;pmailto:chris.c...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
Hi Bartek,
See below for our Dev's comments on your script:

His example code is not clear. In first 2 lines, user works with input at line 
2 which is mesh. In line 3, he works with outMesh.

Our dev gives the following example:
   Primitive prim = ctxt.GetInputValue( 0 );
   PolygonMesh mesh( prim.GetGeometry( 0, siConstructionModeAnimation ) );
   CVertexRefArray points = mesh.GetVertices();
   MATH::CVector3Array pos = points.GetPositionArray();
   const MATH::CVector3* l_pSrc = &pos[0];

l_pSrc contains non-zero values.


Hope this explains.


From: 
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
 On Behalf Of Bartek Opatowiecki
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:36 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: How to make a deformer absolute ?

Primitive prim = (CRef)ctx.GetInputValue(0,0);
PolygonMesh mesh(prim.GetGeometry(0,siConstructionModeAnimation));
CVertexRefArray outPoints = outMesh.GetVertices();
CVector3Array pos = outPoints.GetPositionArray();

I'm calling that block of code from inside of a customOperator, ok ?
There is an Envelope Operator below. It has some bones
 so the mesh is being deformed by that bones.

PolygonMesh
 - Secondary Shape Modeling
 - Animation
  - MyOperator
  - EnvelopeOperator ->
  -Shape Modeling
 - Modeling

How to get result of  "EnvelopeOperator" as an Array of absolute vectors, from 
within "MyOperator" Update callback ?
Actually  "pos " is filled with zeroes.

Hope, you get what I mean :)

Thanks



On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Raffaele Fragapane 
mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>>>
 wrote:
If you transform the vectors by the global kine transform of the object they 
come from they will be in world space.
Assuming you are reading from another object and getting its point positions 
(and those are local) and want their global coordinates the above step is what 
you need.
If you want them in the space of another object then you will have to do the 
above and also multiply by the inverse of the object's global transform you 
want them to be in the space of.

You can chain those two matrices outside the loop taking care of the pointpos 
vectors, as they are per object, to save some cycles.

Unless you were asking for something else.
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Bartosz Opatowiecki 
mailto:b.opatowie...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:
Actually it is false, because I got deformed vertices
into my deformer any way. So anything I do inside my operator
is relative to the previous operator in the stack...

Instead, I want to get vertices in world space or in X3DObject space
fed into my deformer. How can I do that ?

W dniu 2013-04-12 22:33, Alan Fregtman pisze:
Yeah, it should.

You're reading from the Modeling stack, so the envelope didn't happen at that 
point.

Then you're setting the positions, so anything 

Re: Wanted: FFT ICE node

[Jens Lindgren]

Awesome! Would be nice to have it before the weekend. Is that possible?
When I'm done with the effect I'm doing I will share the compound here.

/Jens


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Amaan Akram wrote:

> I have one... somewhere... how soon do you need it?
> On 17 Apr 2013 10:52, "Jens Lindgren"  wrote:
>
>> I wonder if someone out there has a raw FFT ICE node?
>> I know there was one supplied with the very early versions of aaOcean but
>> I don't have any of those old versions laying around.
>>  There also seems to be some different sound plugins for Softimage that
>> has FFT built in but I haven't found a raw FFT node.
>> I'm looking for a node that can do both 1D and 2D FFT.
>> It has happend more than once that I find the need for this and I hope in
>> the future there could be some FFT toolkit nodes supplied with Softimage.
>>
>> Crossing my fingers, hoping there is one out there :)
>>
>> --
>> Jens Lindgren
>> --
>> Lead Technical Director
>> Magoo 3D Studios 
>>
>


-- 
Jens Lindgren
--
Lead Technical Director
Magoo 3D Studios 

Re: Wanted: FFT ICE node

[Amaan Akram]

I have one... somewhere... how soon do you need it?
On 17 Apr 2013 10:52, "Jens Lindgren"  wrote:

> I wonder if someone out there has a raw FFT ICE node?
> I know there was one supplied with the very early versions of aaOcean but
> I don't have any of those old versions laying around.
> There also seems to be some different sound plugins for Softimage that has
> FFT built in but I haven't found a raw FFT node.
> I'm looking for a node that can do both 1D and 2D FFT.
> It has happend more than once that I find the need for this and I hope in
> the future there could be some FFT toolkit nodes supplied with Softimage.
>
> Crossing my fingers, hoping there is one out there :)
>
> --
> Jens Lindgren
> --
> Lead Technical Director
> Magoo 3D Studios 
>

Re: Unfold

[Ahmidou Lyazidi]

Not exactly the same thing, but I have a compound that match an object to
it's UVs.

---
Ahmidou Lyazidi
Director | TD | CG artist
http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos


2013/4/17 andialias 

> Hi there,
> is there a plugin or Ice-tree to unfold an unfoldable geometry
> "physically" - like a deformer- Remaining the edge-length ?
> Thanks Andi
>
> --
> Andreas Schulz
> Durbusch 42,
> 51503 Rösrath,
> Germany
> tel: +49 2205 85204   cell: +49 2205 173 26 33 893
>

Re: Autodesk Documentation Favorites ?

[Rob Wuijster]

  
  
christopher's posts seem to have that effect on
people..
  

Rob

\/-\/\/
  On 17-4-2013 10:29, Guillaume Laforge wrote:


  I think with some very little efforts, this thread
got its chance to be nominated as "one of the best" this year.

  
  On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:52 PM,
Christopher 
wrote:

  Blair, do you know
what cookie I should be looking at the source code for ?
I have (5) looked into the source code for the ones I
found could be the most relevant, although the
information that I was expecting to find, I didn't find.

::Christopher

  

  
  
Stephen Blair
  
Monday, April 15,
2013 5:50 PM

  
  

  In whatever flavour is your favorite. They're
magic cookies, eh.

On 15/04/2013 5:31 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
  
  

  
  

  
  
Alan Fregtman
  
Monday, April 15,
2013 5:31 PM

  
  

  What flavour? ;) Chocolate chip?


  
  


  

  
  

  
  
Stephen Blair
  
Monday, April 15,
2013 10:12 AM

  
  In
a cookie.




  
  

  
  
Christopher
  
Monday, April 15,
2013 9:52 AM

  
  

  
When you store a favorites bookmark with
  the online Autodesk software
  documentation, where are those bookmarks
  stored, offline ? I want to
  change the location of where they are stored ?
  
  Christopher

  

  

  

  
  

  
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Re: Softimage promo

[Dan Yargici]

That's great, thanks!

DAN


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Angus Davidson
wrote:

>  Okay Just got tired of the issue so I created a small application. XSI
> Bounce
>
>  Just copy it into the Appplication/bin folder. It shouldn't matter what
> version you are using.
>
>  All it does is check to see if XSI.bat is there and if it is run the
> batch file. It will then quit. On fast machines you probably won't even
> notice it opening.
>
>  That way you can easily pin something to the Start Bar.
>
>  You can get it from http://db.tt/EG3p9Ihb
>
>  TODO. 1) Get a decent Icon, Currently just generic application Icon
> 2)Test to see if it works with network licensing
>
>  Kind regards
>
>  Angus
>
>   From: Rob Wuijster 
> Reply-To: "r...@casema.nl" , "
> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
> Date: Tuesday 16 April 2013 4:08 PM
> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
> Subject: Re: Softimage promo
>
>   Funny that this stuff comes back with every new release of Softimage.
> There's some solutions on this in the mail archives, and even on the
> forums.
>
> Rob
>
> \/-\/\/
>
> On 16-4-2013 14:22, Angus Davidson wrote:
>
> Is it not possible to write a launcher program that will do the same thing
>
> as the batch file.
>
> That way you can leave xsi.exe unchanged and it will still have what ever
> it needs in place before it runs.
>
>
>
> On 2013/04/16 1:41 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau"  
>  wrote:
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Szabolcs Matefy  
> 
> wrote:
>
>  To me (Win7 latest updates) it¹s not available. It wants to pin to the
> exisiting Icons, but not the taskbar. However, Maya, Max, ZBrush and all
> other programs offer the option
>
>  None of these apps offer this option, this is a task bar menu
> "offered" by Microsoft.  It creates  shortcut to Softimage.exe but
> Softimage needs to be started by a .bat file, because that's how we
> set the environment variable per-version.  Don't know if it's worth to
> come up with a combination of different systems to replace that just
> to work around that taskbar menu.
>
> 1) Run Softimage, right click on taskbar and select "Pin this program
> to taskbar"
> 2) quit Softimage (important otherwise step 3 won't work)
> 3) shift-right-click on the Softimage icon on the taskbar and select
> Properties
> 4) change xsi.exe to xsi.bat
>
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Wanted: FFT ICE node

[Jens Lindgren]

I wonder if someone out there has a raw FFT ICE node?
I know there was one supplied with the very early versions of aaOcean but I
don't have any of those old versions laying around.
There also seems to be some different sound plugins for Softimage that has
FFT built in but I haven't found a raw FFT node.
I'm looking for a node that can do both 1D and 2D FFT.
It has happend more than once that I find the need for this and I hope in
the future there could be some FFT toolkit nodes supplied with Softimage.

Crossing my fingers, hoping there is one out there :)

-- 
Jens Lindgren
--
Lead Technical Director
Magoo 3D Studios 

Re: Softimage promo

[Angus Davidson]

Okay Just got tired of the issue so I created a small application. XSI Bounce

Just copy it into the Appplication/bin folder. It shouldn't matter what version 
you are using.

All it does is check to see if XSI.bat is there and if it is run the batch 
file. It will then quit. On fast machines you probably won't even notice it 
opening.

That way you can easily pin something to the Start Bar.

You can get it from http://db.tt/EG3p9Ihb

TODO. 1) Get a decent Icon, Currently just generic application Icon
2)Test to see if it works with network licensing

Kind regards

Angus

From: Rob Wuijster mailto:r...@casema.nl>>
Reply-To: "r...@casema.nl" 
mailto:r...@casema.nl>>, 
"softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Date: Tuesday 16 April 2013 4:08 PM
To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" 
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: Re: Softimage promo

Funny that this stuff comes back with every new release of Softimage.
There's some solutions on this in the mail archives, and even on the forums.

Rob

\/-\/\/

On 16-4-2013 14:22, Angus Davidson wrote:

Is it not possible to write a launcher program that will do the same thing

as the batch file.

That way you can leave xsi.exe unchanged and it will still have what ever
it needs in place before it runs.



On 2013/04/16 1:41 PM, "Luc-Eric Rousseau" 
 wrote:



On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Szabolcs Matefy 

wrote:


To me (Win7 latest updates) it¹s not available. It wants to pin to the
exisiting Icons, but not the taskbar. However, Maya, Max, ZBrush and all
other programs offer the option


None of these apps offer this option, this is a task bar menu
"offered" by Microsoft.  It creates  shortcut to Softimage.exe but
Softimage needs to be started by a .bat file, because that's how we
set the environment variable per-version.  Don't know if it's worth to
come up with a combination of different systems to replace that just
to work around that taskbar menu.

1) Run Softimage, right click on taskbar and select "Pin this program
to taskbar"
2) quit Softimage (important otherwise step 3 won't work)
3) shift-right-click on the Softimage icon on the taskbar and select
Properties
4) change xsi.exe to xsi.bat





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Re: Autodesk Documentation Favorites ?

[Guillaume Laforge]

I think with some very little efforts, this thread got its chance to be
nominated as "one of the best" this year.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Christopher <
christop...@thecreativesheep.ca> wrote:

> Blair, do you know what cookie I should be looking at the source code for ?
> I have (5) looked into the source code for the ones I found could be the
> most relevant, although the information that I was expecting to find, I
> didn't find.
>
> ::Christopher
>
>   Stephen Blair 
>  Monday, April 15, 2013 5:50 PM
>  In whatever flavour is your favorite. They're magic cookies, eh.
>
> On 15/04/2013 5:31 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
>
>   Alan Fregtman 
>  Monday, April 15, 2013 5:31 PM
> What flavour? ;) Chocolate chip?
>
>
>
>
>   Stephen Blair 
>  Monday, April 15, 2013 10:12 AM
> In a cookie.
>
>
>
>   Christopher 
>  Monday, April 15, 2013 9:52 AM
> When you store a favorites bookmark with the online Autodesk software
> documentation, where are those bookmarks stored, offline ? I want to
> change the location of where they are stored ?
>
> Christopher
>
>
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