RE: Softimage Devs petition

[Sven Constable]

For 1) and 2)... I dont think 2015 will be the last version, ha!

3)
Softimage|3D 4.082 MB
Softimage XSI 4.0   173 MB
Softimage XSI 5.11  367 MB
Softimage XSI 6.0   399 MB
Softimage XSI 6.5   437 MB
Softimage XSI 7.01  505 MB

I also have a version2.0 'ExperienceCD' here with a demo version of XSI2.0. But 
don't know how much is part of the installer and what is other promo stuff. The 
nt and doc folder are  135 MB. So I would guess XSI1.0 was around 100MB.

sven

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:25 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage Devs petition

Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc Petit for 
obvious reasons.

Let's have a wager on the following:

1) Who made the decision.

2) Who delivers the news.


Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can find it.  Which 
leads to the bonus question:

3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.  How big was 
the installer for XSI v1.0?






Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:18 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Cc: Stephan Hempel
Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition

I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish.

On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote:
> Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will 
> announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?!
>
> --
> Martin Contel
> Square Enix (Visual Works)

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[peter_b]

Hi Matt -
If you can't find it, I'll throw in that XSI 1.0 installation disc - just 
found it :-)
If the correct answer has to be within 10% (so for 1000mb that would be say 
900-1100mb) - the correct answer has not been guessed yet.


and for laughs - how big was the installer for Irix?

As for who's going to announce anything... is there going to be an 
announcement? That would mean missing out on maintenance so I guess they 
rather let it die in silence, screw some more customers while they can.



-Original Message- 
From: Matt Lind

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:24 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: Softimage Devs petition

Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc Petit for 
obvious reasons.


Let's have a wager on the following:

1) Who made the decision.

2) Who delivers the news.


Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can find it. 
Which leads to the bonus question:


3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.  How big 
was the installer for XSI v1.0?







Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge

Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:18 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Cc: Stephan Hempel
Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition

I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish.

On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote:

Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will
announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?!

--
Martin Contel
Square Enix (Visual Works)

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[nick name]

1)...
2)...
3) 10-20mb


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Matt Lind  wrote:

> Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc Petit for
> obvious reasons.
>
> Let's have a wager on the following:
>
> 1) Who made the decision.
>
> 2) Who delivers the news.
>
>
> Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can find it.
>  Which leads to the bonus question:
>
> 3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.  How big
> was the installer for XSI v1.0?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:18 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Cc: Stephan Hempel
> Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition
>
> I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish.
>
> On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote:
> > Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will
> > announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?!
> >
> > --
> > Martin Contel
> > Square Enix (Visual Works)
>
>
>

RE: Softimage Devs petition

[Angus Davidson]

From: Ed Manning [etmth...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 March 2014 05:57 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Sebastien Sterling 
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Nex, Bitfrost, moving the soft team onto maya, the new look of the node editor, 
i'd say they are doing some pretty desperat "folding", however both your 
options whether selective asimilation, or abandone mont have the same outcome. 
softimage gets the shaft.

Not Softimage. Softimage *users* get the shaft. Every one of us.

Well spoken!

--snip

Back in the 80s, there was a T-shirt that read: "IBM -- weak as a kitten, dumb 
as a sack of hammers."

Sadly that lingered on to kill a great OS. Warp had the potential to do so much 
, but was managed just as badly ;(

Unfortunately, AD isn't weak, but more unfortunately, it's far dumber when it 
comes to the M&E space than any self-respecting sack of hammers. Yes, it's a 
hard business. So the thing to do would be to leave it to people who know what 
to do with it, not break the entire industry so badly that no one can fix it.

M&E isnt its core business either. They are trying to apply principles from 
their main streams and it just doesnt work.

I'm venting, obviously.  Perhaps my fears will all be laid to rest by the 
release of an amazing new Soft-inflected version of "Maya" that will fix all 
the crippling workflow issues and also whiten my teeth.   But I'm not holding 
my breath.

There better be some pretty decent compensatory license deals, or I smell 
class-action.

Amen.

Who's going to do "Hitler reacts to Autodesk's killing of Softimage?" The only 
problem is the wealth of material that will need to be trimmed down.

hahaha ;)





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Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Ed Manning]

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nex, Bitfrost, moving the soft team onto maya, the new look of the node
> editor, i'd say they are doing some pretty desperat "folding", however both
> your options whether selective asimilation, or abandone mont have the same
> outcome. softimage gets the shaft.
>

Not Softimage. Softimage *users* get the shaft. Every one of us.

And let's be very clear. AD's track record of incorporating acquired
technologies is execrable (in the M&E space -- maybe they're really nice
guys over in the CAD/archvis division, I wouldn't know).  Most products
that are even released by AD after acquisition and at best a couple years
of half-hearted "support" much less any development at all become
unsupported abandonware flogged mercilessly as "value-added" bonus
applications. Most of them don't even get an official AD release.  AD can't
even do more than half-assed implementations of 5-year-old open-source tech
(EXR, Alembic), and certainly hasn't shown any real ability to innovate,
other than ICE (and I'd be surprised if anyone at AD who wasn't part of
Softimage originally had anything substantive to do with it).

Back in the 80s, there was a T-shirt that read: "IBM -- weak as a kitten,
dumb as a sack of hammers." Unfortunately, AD isn't weak, but more
unfortunately, it's far dumber when it comes to the M&E space than any
self-respecting sack of hammers. Yes, it's a hard business. So the thing to
do would be to leave it to people who know what to do with it, not break
the entire industry so badly that no one can fix it.

I'm venting, obviously.  Perhaps my fears will all be laid to rest by the
release of an amazing new Soft-inflected version of "Maya" that will fix
all the crippling workflow issues and also whiten my teeth.   But I'm not
holding my breath.

There better be some pretty decent compensatory license deals, or I smell
class-action.

Who's going to do "Hitler reacts to Autodesk's killing of Softimage?" The
only problem is the wealth of material that will need to be trimmed down.

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Sebastien Sterling]

Nex, Bitfrost, moving the soft team onto maya, the new look of the node
editor, i'd say they are doing some pretty desperat "folding", however both
your options whether selective asimilation, or abandone mont have the same
outcome. softimage gets the shaft.


On 4 March 2014 00:53, John Clausing  wrote:

> Here's some questions
>
> AD is a software seller right? So they should understand unique software
> abilities?
>
> Softimage is the best package of the AD 3, or at least has some awesome
> tech the others lack?
>
> So what does AD do with the Soft Dev that they own?
> Dump it? No, they understand software right? And it's value right?
>
> Sothey'll either fold Soft into Maya in which case we'll see it
> there (I'll call it Softmaya), or (less likely), they dump/sell all the
> entertainment 3d?
>
> Am I wrong?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Emilio Hernandez  wrote:
>
> 1. The guy in charge of Maya with a big smile.
> 2. Crhis Bradshaw and his puddle.
> 3. The janitor in his personal blog.
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-03 18:32 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge :
>
>> 1. The board.
>> 2. Marc Stephans
>> 3. I dunno
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:28:54 PM, Steven Caron wrote:
>>
>>> 1) the board and chris bradshaw
>>>
>>> 2) cory morgk or chris bradshaw
>>>
>>> 3) 250 mb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Matt Lind >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc
>>> Petit for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>> Let's have a wager on the following:
>>>
>>> 1) Who made the decision.
>>>
>>> 2) Who delivers the news.
>>>
>>>
>>> Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can
>>> find it.  Which leads to the bonus question:
>>>
>>> 3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.
>>>  How big was the installer for XSI v1.0?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[John Clausing]

Here's some questions

AD is a software seller right? So they should understand unique software 
abilities?

Softimage is the best package of the AD 3, or at least has some awesome tech 
the others lack?

So what does AD do with the Soft Dev that they own?
Dump it? No, they understand software right? And it's value right?

Sothey'll either fold Soft into Maya in which case we'll see it there 
(I'll call it Softmaya), or (less likely), they dump/sell all the entertainment 
3d?

Am I wrong?



Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Emilio Hernandez  wrote:
> 
> 1. The guy in charge of Maya with a big smile.
> 2. Crhis Bradshaw and his puddle.
> 3. The janitor in his personal blog.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2014-03-03 18:32 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge :
>> 1. The board.
>> 2. Marc Stephans
>> 3. I dunno
>> 
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:28:54 PM, Steven Caron wrote:
>>> 1) the board and chris bradshaw
>>> 
>>> 2) cory morgk or chris bradshaw
>>> 
>>> 3) 250 mb
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Matt Lind >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc
>>> Petit for obvious reasons.
>>> 
>>> Let's have a wager on the following:
>>> 
>>> 1) Who made the decision.
>>> 
>>> 2) Who delivers the news.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can
>>> find it.  Which leads to the bonus question:
>>> 
>>> 3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.
>>>  How big was the installer for XSI v1.0?
> 

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Rares Halmagean]

1. bad guys with pitchforks
2. reluctant good guybeing poked with pitchforks by said bad guys
3. don't know. I only started using v4.0. 275mgs?

I'm only kidding about the heads of AD being bad guyssort of.

On 3/3/2014 6:24 PM, Matt Lind wrote:

Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc Petit for 
obvious reasons.

Let's have a wager on the following:

1) Who made the decision.

2) Who delivers the news.


Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can find it.  Which 
leads to the bonus question:

3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.  How big was 
the installer for XSI v1.0?






Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:18 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Cc: Stephan Hempel
Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition

I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish.

On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote:

Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will
announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?!

--
Martin Contel
Square Enix (Visual Works)




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___
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Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Emilio Hernandez]

1. The guy in charge of Maya with a big smile.
2. Crhis Bradshaw and his puddle.
3. The janitor in his personal blog.





2014-03-03 18:32 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge :

> 1. The board.
> 2. Marc Stephans
> 3. I dunno
>
>
> On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:28:54 PM, Steven Caron wrote:
>
>> 1) the board and chris bradshaw
>>
>> 2) cory morgk or chris bradshaw
>>
>> 3) 250 mb
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Matt Lind > > wrote:
>>
>> Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc
>> Petit for obvious reasons.
>>
>> Let's have a wager on the following:
>>
>> 1) Who made the decision.
>>
>> 2) Who delivers the news.
>>
>>
>> Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can
>> find it.  Which leads to the bonus question:
>>
>> 3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.
>>  How big was the installer for XSI v1.0?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Maurício PC]

1. F@cking board.
2. Cory Morgk
3. 175 mb


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Eric Thivierge wrote:

> 1. The board.
> 2. Marc Stephans
> 3. I dunno
>
>
> On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:28:54 PM, Steven Caron wrote:
>
>> 1) the board and chris bradshaw
>>
>> 2) cory morgk or chris bradshaw
>>
>> 3) 250 mb
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Matt Lind > > wrote:
>>
>> Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc
>> Petit for obvious reasons.
>>
>> Let's have a wager on the following:
>>
>> 1) Who made the decision.
>>
>> 2) Who delivers the news.
>>
>>
>> Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can
>> find it.  Which leads to the bonus question:
>>
>> 3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.
>>  How big was the installer for XSI v1.0?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
gonebadfx.com
- your source for bad fx

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Eric Thivierge]

1. The board.
2. Marc Stephans
3. I dunno

On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:28:54 PM, Steven Caron wrote:

1) the board and chris bradshaw

2) cory morgk or chris bradshaw

3) 250 mb


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Matt Lind mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com>> wrote:

Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc
Petit for obvious reasons.

Let's have a wager on the following:

1) Who made the decision.

2) Who delivers the news.


Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can
find it.  Which leads to the bonus question:

3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.
 How big was the installer for XSI v1.0?

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Steven Caron]

1) the board and chris bradshaw

2) cory morgk or chris bradshaw

3) 250 mb


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Matt Lind  wrote:

> Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc Petit for
> obvious reasons.
>
> Let's have a wager on the following:
>
> 1) Who made the decision.
>
> 2) Who delivers the news.
>
>
> Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can find it.
>  Which leads to the bonus question:
>
> 3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.  How big
> was the installer for XSI v1.0?
>
>
>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[James De Colling]

1.0...no idea, I remember 5.xx was around 350mb or so though


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Matt Lind  wrote:

> Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc Petit for
> obvious reasons.
>
> Let's have a wager on the following:
>
> 1) Who made the decision.
>
> 2) Who delivers the news.
>
>
> Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can find it.
>  Which leads to the bonus question:
>
> 3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.  How big
> was the installer for XSI v1.0?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:18 PM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Cc: Stephan Hempel
> Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition
>
> I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish.
>
> On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote:
> > Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will
> > announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?!
> >
> > --
> > Martin Contel
> > Square Enix (Visual Works)
>
>
>

RE: Softimage Devs petition

[Matt Lind]

Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD?   Won't be Marc Petit for 
obvious reasons.

Let's have a wager on the following:

1) Who made the decision.

2) Who delivers the news.


Winner gets a Softimage|XSI v1.0 installation disc.if I can find it.  Which 
leads to the bonus question:

3) Today's installer for Autodesk Softimage is approaching 2 GB.  How big was 
the installer for XSI v1.0?






Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:18 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Cc: Stephan Hempel
Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition

I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish.

On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote:
> Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will 
> announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?!
>
> --
> Martin Contel
> Square Enix (Visual Works)

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Martin Contel]

:__(

--
Martin Contel
Square Enix (Visual Works)


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote:

> I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish.
>
>
> On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote:
>
>> Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will
>> announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?!
>>
>> --
>> Martin Contel
>> Square Enix (Visual Works)
>>
>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Eric Thivierge]

I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish.

On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote:

Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will
announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?!

--
Martin Contel
Square Enix (Visual Works)

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Martin Contel]

Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will
announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?!

--
Martin Contel
Square Enix (Visual Works)

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Alexander Akbarov]

It seem that they don't have any Softimage Expert there, they didn't
mention about Softimage in their upcoming "Expert Challenge"
http://www.maxunderground.com/archives/20656_autodesk_expert_challenge___march_2014.html#comments
But anyway there is a form there...


2014-03-03 21:49 GMT+02:00 Stephan Hempel :

> unfortunately so true... In my opinion as a company you should not
> only have a responsibility for your products but also towards your
> customers. But as seen in the last couple of years this seams not more
> relevant to stock corporations.
>
> The misfortune with Autodesk is that a whole industry is depended on
> their decisions which should give them quite some responsibility.
>
> Stephan.
>
> PG> I don't think Autodesk cares at ALL about any of the M&E packages
> PG> they own.  They've recognized the value of patents and
> PG> intellectual property.  It's the reason IBM is still around today.
> PG> If Autodesk scoops up all the intellectual property, it doesn't
> PG> matter if they cancel every M&E product they own as long as they
> PG> can sue anyone who uses one of their patents without paying for it.
>
> PG> Joe Alter ring a bell to anyone?
>
> PG> Why hasn't there been more innovation in hair?  Hmmm...
>
>
> PG>  ?
>
>
>
> PG> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Stephan Hempel 
> wrote:
> PG> Maybe Autodesk should sell the whole M&E division to the community
> PG>  before they dump any valuable asset into the ground and
> PG> therefore decrease the total value of M&E. Given that M&E only
> PG> contributes 7% to their profits lets me wonder why they moved into
> PG> this business in the first place.
>
> PG> I think Autodesk would lose quite a few customers to the
> PG> competition, especially smaller studios. So it would be utterly
> PG> stupid to stop developing Softimage.
>
> PG> Cheers,
> PG> Stephan.
>
>
>
> PG> am Montag, 3. März 2014 um 19:09 schriebst Du:
>
> >> That would be bad news. I hope it's not true but I'm sure many
> >> people on this list are not surprised given AD's strategy, or lack of,
> with SI.
>
> >> Honestly though it doesn't make good business sense to develop 3
> >> dcc apps that overlap in many ways, so it shouldn't be unexpected
> >> for a company like AD to scrap redundancies and pool resources to one
> product at some point.
>
>
> >> On 3/3/2014 11:19 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
> >> Yes tomorrow is supposed to be the "official" announcement.
>
> >> Maybe also they leaked this rumor before to see how would we react,
> >> and how much of us will "convert" to that F$2#%&$2!"#&& Maya.
>
>
>
>
> >> 2014-03-03 11:13 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge :
> >> Wait until tomorrow...  rumored to be posted then.
>
>
> >> On 3/3/2014 11:56 AM, Doeke Wartena wrote:
> >> Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?
>
> >> And if so, that's so tragic.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
> Stephan Hempel
> mailto:hempli...@web.de
>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Stephan Hempel]

unfortunately so true... In my opinion as a company you should not
only have a responsibility for your products but also towards your
customers. But as seen in the last couple of years this seams not more
relevant to stock corporations.

The misfortune with Autodesk is that a whole industry is depended on
their decisions which should give them quite some responsibility.

Stephan.

PG> I don't think Autodesk cares at ALL about any of the M&E packages
PG> they own.  They've recognized the value of patents and
PG> intellectual property.  It's the reason IBM is still around today.
PG> If Autodesk scoops up all the intellectual property, it doesn't
PG> matter if they cancel every M&E product they own as long as they
PG> can sue anyone who uses one of their patents without paying for it.

PG> Joe Alter ring a bell to anyone?

PG> Why hasn't there been more innovation in hair?  Hmmm...


PG>  ?



PG> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Stephan Hempel  wrote:
PG> Maybe Autodesk should sell the whole M&E division to the community
PG>  before they dump any valuable asset into the ground and
PG> therefore decrease the total value of M&E. Given that M&E only
PG> contributes 7% to their profits lets me wonder why they moved into
PG> this business in the first place.

PG> I think Autodesk would lose quite a few customers to the
PG> competition, especially smaller studios. So it would be utterly
PG> stupid to stop developing Softimage.

PG> Cheers,
PG> Stephan.



PG> am Montag, 3. März 2014 um 19:09 schriebst Du:

>> That would be bad news. I hope it's not true but I'm sure many
>> people on this list are not surprised given AD's strategy, or lack of, with 
>> SI.

>> Honestly though it doesn't make good business sense to develop 3
>> dcc apps that overlap in many ways, so it shouldn't be unexpected
>> for a company like AD to scrap redundancies and pool resources to one 
>> product at some point.


>> On 3/3/2014 11:19 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
>> Yes tomorrow is supposed to be the "official" announcement.

>> Maybe also they leaked this rumor before to see how would we react,
>> and how much of us will "convert" to that F$2#%&$2!"#&& Maya.




>> 2014-03-03 11:13 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge :
>> Wait until tomorrow...  rumored to be posted then.


>> On 3/3/2014 11:56 AM, Doeke Wartena wrote:
>> Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?

>> And if so, that's so tragic.














-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
Stephan Hempel
mailto:hempli...@web.de

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Paul Griswold]

I don't think Autodesk cares at ALL about any of the M&E packages they own.
 They've recognized the value of patents and intellectual property.  It's
the reason IBM is still around today.  If Autodesk scoops up all the
intellectual property, it doesn't matter if they cancel every M&E product
they own as long as they can sue anyone who uses one of their patents
without paying for it.

Joe Alter ring a bell to anyone?

Why hasn't there been more innovation in hair?  Hmmm...


ᐧ


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Stephan Hempel  wrote:

> Maybe Autodesk should sell the whole M&E division to the community
>  before they dump any valuable asset into the ground and therefore
> decrease the total value of M&E. Given that M&E only contributes 7% to
> their profits lets me wonder why they moved into this business in the first
> place.
>
> I think Autodesk would lose quite a few customers to the competition,
> especially smaller studios. So it would be utterly stupid to stop
> developing Softimage.
>
> Cheers,
> Stephan.
>
>
>
> am Montag, 3. März 2014 um 19:09 schriebst Du:
>
> > That would be bad news. I hope it's not true but I'm sure many
> > people on this list are not surprised given AD's strategy, or lack of,
> with SI.
>
> > Honestly though it doesn't make good business sense to develop 3
> > dcc apps that overlap in many ways, so it shouldn't be unexpected
> > for a company like AD to scrap redundancies and pool resources to one
> product at some point.
>
>
> > On 3/3/2014 11:19 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
> > Yes tomorrow is supposed to be the "official" announcement.
>
> > Maybe also they leaked this rumor before to see how would we react,
> > and how much of us will "convert" to that F$2#%&$2!"#&& Maya.
>
> >
>
>
> > 2014-03-03 11:13 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge :
> > Wait until tomorrow...  rumored to be posted then.
>
>
> > On 3/3/2014 11:56 AM, Doeke Wartena wrote:
> > Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?
>
> > And if so, that's so tragic.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Stephan Hempel]

Maybe Autodesk should sell the whole M&E division to the community
 before they dump any valuable asset into the ground and therefore decrease the 
total value of M&E. Given that M&E only contributes 7% to their profits lets me 
wonder why they moved into this business in the first place.

I think Autodesk would lose quite a few customers to the competition, 
especially smaller studios. So it would be utterly stupid to stop developing 
Softimage. 

Cheers,
Stephan.



am Montag, 3. März 2014 um 19:09 schriebst Du:

> That would be bad news. I hope it's not true but I'm sure many
> people on this list are not surprised given AD's strategy, or lack of, with 
> SI.

> Honestly though it doesn't make good business sense to develop 3
> dcc apps that overlap in many ways, so it shouldn't be unexpected
> for a company like AD to scrap redundancies and pool resources to one product 
> at some point.


> On 3/3/2014 11:19 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
> Yes tomorrow is supposed to be the "official" announcement.  

> Maybe also they leaked this rumor before to see how would we react,
> and how much of us will "convert" to that F$2#%&$2!"#&& Maya.

>  


> 2014-03-03 11:13 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge :
> Wait until tomorrow...  rumored to be posted then. 


> On 3/3/2014 11:56 AM, Doeke Wartena wrote:
> Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?

> And if so, that's so tragic.

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Rares Halmagean]

That would be bad news. I hope it's not true but I'm sure many people on 
this list are not surprised given AD's strategy, or lack of, with SI.


Honestly though it doesn't make good business sense to develop 3 dcc 
apps that overlap in many ways, so it shouldn't be unexpected for a 
company like AD to scrap redundancies and pool resources to one product 
at some point.



On 3/3/2014 11:19 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

Yes tomorrow is supposed to be the "official" announcement.

Maybe also they leaked this rumor before to see how would we react, 
and how much of us will "convert" to that F$2#%&$2!"#&& Maya.





2014-03-03 11:13 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge >:


Wait until tomorrow...  rumored to be posted then.


On 3/3/2014 11:56 AM, Doeke Wartena wrote:

Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?

And if so, that's so tragic.






--
*Rares Halmagean
___
*visual development and 3d character & content creation.
*rarebrush.com* 

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Ed Manning]

Make no mistake, to AD, we are the goats. Or lambs to the slaughter...

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Emilio Hernandez]

Yes tomorrow is supposed to be the "official" announcement.

Maybe also they leaked this rumor before to see how would we react, and how
much of us will "convert" to that F$2#%&$2!"#&& Maya.




2014-03-03 11:13 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge :

> Wait until tomorrow...  rumored to be posted then.
>
>
> On 3/3/2014 11:56 AM, Doeke Wartena wrote:
>
>> Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?
>>
>> And if so, that's so tragic.
>>
>>
>>
>

RE: Softimage Devs petition

[Angus Davidson]

Probably involving goats.

From: Mirko Jankovic [mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com]
Sent: 03 March 2014 07:12 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition

well they probably started rumor as a leak a bit earlier hoping that people 
will steam off first and not to be so loud once they announce it. if that is a 
case well they are wrong about it. a lot of people will still mention their 
families in a way not proper even for forums to mention :)


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Emilio Hernandez 
mailto:emi...@e-roja.com>> wrote:
Still no "official" announcement yet AFAIK.  All the ADSK guys here are so 
quite though...


[http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8965/erojamailpleca.jpg]


2014-03-03 10:56 GMT-06:00 Doeke Wartena 
mailto:clankil...@gmail.com>>:

Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?

And if so, that's so tragic.


2014-03-01 13:59 GMT+01:00 Sebastien Sterling 
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>>:

their are software discussions on 4Chan ? all right who ever is responsible, 
your ribbing awaits show yourself !

http://4chandata.org/3/Why-do-artist-in-Asia-use-softimage-when-no-one-uses-it-here-Capcom-Konami-and-Square-Enix-use-softimage-while-everything-made-in--a166989




On 1 March 2014 13:52, Sebastien Sterling 
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm sure their is someone on this list that might be able to say when the list 
started, however id does seem to have a large concentration of western artist, 
might just be the language barrier. their should have been an initiative made 
years ago to breach the west and the east soft communities..


On 1 March 2014 13:42, Ognjen Vukovic 
mailto:ognj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Wouldn't a pretty obvious intrusion on their pipeline already get them 
chatting? It seems its got a large part of the mailing list already in quite a 
bit of a stir. And where are all the Japanese guys, shouldn't they be around 
here somewhere, to my knowledge quite a lot of game studios in Japan are 
soft-based. This should be quite a big deal to them as well.


On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Sebastien Sterling 
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
you'd need to get all the big companies chatting, that would include the 
japanese compagnies as well.


On 1 March 2014 13:27, Ognjen Vukovic 
mailto:ognj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign up actually 
have any chance of making a difference?  Theres the old saying vote with your 
wallet... but what to do in this case?  I cant talk my boss into buying more 
softimage licensees then seats we have in the office...


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ed Manning 
mailto:etmth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I guess that's "unnouncement" then?














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Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Eric Thivierge]

Wait until tomorrow...  rumored to be posted then.

On 3/3/2014 11:56 AM, Doeke Wartena wrote:

Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?

And if so, that's so tragic.

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Mirko Jankovic]

well they probably started rumor as a leak a bit earlier hoping that people
will steam off first and not to be so loud once they announce it. if that
is a case well they are wrong about it. a lot of people will still mention
their families in a way not proper even for forums to mention :)


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Emilio Hernandez  wrote:

> Still no "official" announcement yet AFAIK.  All the ADSK guys here are so
> quite though...
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-03 10:56 GMT-06:00 Doeke Wartena :
>
> Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?
>>
>> And if so, that's so tragic.
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-01 13:59 GMT+01:00 Sebastien Sterling <
>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> their are software discussions on 4Chan ? all right who ever is
>>> responsible, your ribbing awaits show yourself !
>>>
>>>
>>> http://4chandata.org/3/Why-do-artist-in-Asia-use-softimage-when-no-one-uses-it-here-Capcom-Konami-and-Square-Enix-use-softimage-while-everything-made-in--a166989
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 March 2014 13:52, Sebastien Sterling 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm sure their is someone on this list that might be able to say when
 the list started, however id does seem to have a large concentration of
 western artist, might just be the language barrier. their should have been
 an initiative made years ago to breach the west and the east soft
 communities..


 On 1 March 2014 13:42, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:

> Wouldn't a pretty obvious intrusion on their pipeline already get them
> chatting? It seems its got a large part of the mailing list already in
> quite a bit of a stir. And where are all the Japanese guys, shouldn't they
> be around here somewhere, to my knowledge quite a lot of game studios in
> Japan are soft-based. This should be quite a big deal to them as well.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you'd need to get all the big companies chatting, that would include
>> the japanese compagnies as well.
>>
>>
>> On 1 March 2014 13:27, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>>
>>> Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign
>>> up actually have any chance of making a difference?  Theres the old 
>>> saying
>>> vote with your wallet... but what to do in this case?  I cant talk my 
>>> boss
>>> into buying more softimage licensees then seats we have in the office...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ed Manning wrote:
>>>
 I guess that's "unnouncement" then?




>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Emilio Hernandez]

Still no "official" announcement yet AFAIK.  All the ADSK guys here are so
quite though...





2014-03-03 10:56 GMT-06:00 Doeke Wartena :

> Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?
>
> And if so, that's so tragic.
>
>
> 2014-03-01 13:59 GMT+01:00 Sebastien Sterling <
> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>:
>
> their are software discussions on 4Chan ? all right who ever is
>> responsible, your ribbing awaits show yourself !
>>
>>
>> http://4chandata.org/3/Why-do-artist-in-Asia-use-softimage-when-no-one-uses-it-here-Capcom-Konami-and-Square-Enix-use-softimage-while-everything-made-in--a166989
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 March 2014 13:52, Sebastien Sterling 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure their is someone on this list that might be able to say when
>>> the list started, however id does seem to have a large concentration of
>>> western artist, might just be the language barrier. their should have been
>>> an initiative made years ago to breach the west and the east soft
>>> communities..
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 March 2014 13:42, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>>>
 Wouldn't a pretty obvious intrusion on their pipeline already get them
 chatting? It seems its got a large part of the mailing list already in
 quite a bit of a stir. And where are all the Japanese guys, shouldn't they
 be around here somewhere, to my knowledge quite a lot of game studios in
 Japan are soft-based. This should be quite a big deal to them as well.


 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
 sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> you'd need to get all the big companies chatting, that would include
> the japanese compagnies as well.
>
>
> On 1 March 2014 13:27, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>
>> Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign up
>> actually have any chance of making a difference?  Theres the old saying
>> vote with your wallet... but what to do in this case?  I cant talk my 
>> boss
>> into buying more softimage licensees then seats we have in the office...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ed Manning wrote:
>>
>>> I guess that's "unnouncement" then?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Doeke Wartena]

Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one?

And if so, that's so tragic.


2014-03-01 13:59 GMT+01:00 Sebastien Sterling 
:

> their are software discussions on 4Chan ? all right who ever is
> responsible, your ribbing awaits show yourself !
>
>
> http://4chandata.org/3/Why-do-artist-in-Asia-use-softimage-when-no-one-uses-it-here-Capcom-Konami-and-Square-Enix-use-softimage-while-everything-made-in--a166989
>
>
>
>
> On 1 March 2014 13:52, Sebastien Sterling wrote:
>
>> I'm sure their is someone on this list that might be able to say when the
>> list started, however id does seem to have a large concentration of western
>> artist, might just be the language barrier. their should have been an
>> initiative made years ago to breach the west and the east soft communities..
>>
>>
>> On 1 March 2014 13:42, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn't a pretty obvious intrusion on their pipeline already get them
>>> chatting? It seems its got a large part of the mailing list already in
>>> quite a bit of a stir. And where are all the Japanese guys, shouldn't they
>>> be around here somewhere, to my knowledge quite a lot of game studios in
>>> Japan are soft-based. This should be quite a big deal to them as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 you'd need to get all the big companies chatting, that would include
 the japanese compagnies as well.


 On 1 March 2014 13:27, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:

> Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign up
> actually have any chance of making a difference?  Theres the old saying
> vote with your wallet... but what to do in this case?  I cant talk my boss
> into buying more softimage licensees then seats we have in the office...
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ed Manning wrote:
>
>> I guess that's "unnouncement" then?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Sebastien Sterling]

their are software discussions on 4Chan ? all right who ever is
responsible, your ribbing awaits show yourself !

http://4chandata.org/3/Why-do-artist-in-Asia-use-softimage-when-no-one-uses-it-here-Capcom-Konami-and-Square-Enix-use-softimage-while-everything-made-in--a166989




On 1 March 2014 13:52, Sebastien Sterling wrote:

> I'm sure their is someone on this list that might be able to say when the
> list started, however id does seem to have a large concentration of western
> artist, might just be the language barrier. their should have been an
> initiative made years ago to breach the west and the east soft communities..
>
>
> On 1 March 2014 13:42, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't a pretty obvious intrusion on their pipeline already get them
>> chatting? It seems its got a large part of the mailing list already in
>> quite a bit of a stir. And where are all the Japanese guys, shouldn't they
>> be around here somewhere, to my knowledge quite a lot of game studios in
>> Japan are soft-based. This should be quite a big deal to them as well.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> you'd need to get all the big companies chatting, that would include the
>>> japanese compagnies as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 March 2014 13:27, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>>>
 Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign up
 actually have any chance of making a difference?  Theres the old saying
 vote with your wallet... but what to do in this case?  I cant talk my boss
 into buying more softimage licensees then seats we have in the office...


 On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:

> I guess that's "unnouncement" then?
>
>
>
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Sebastien Sterling]

I'm sure their is someone on this list that might be able to say when the
list started, however id does seem to have a large concentration of western
artist, might just be the language barrier. their should have been an
initiative made years ago to breach the west and the east soft communities..


On 1 March 2014 13:42, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:

> Wouldn't a pretty obvious intrusion on their pipeline already get them
> chatting? It seems its got a large part of the mailing list already in
> quite a bit of a stir. And where are all the Japanese guys, shouldn't they
> be around here somewhere, to my knowledge quite a lot of game studios in
> Japan are soft-based. This should be quite a big deal to them as well.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you'd need to get all the big companies chatting, that would include the
>> japanese compagnies as well.
>>
>>
>> On 1 March 2014 13:27, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>>
>>> Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign up
>>> actually have any chance of making a difference?  Theres the old saying
>>> vote with your wallet... but what to do in this case?  I cant talk my boss
>>> into buying more softimage licensees then seats we have in the office...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:
>>>
 I guess that's "unnouncement" then?




>>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Ognjen Vukovic]

Wouldn't a pretty obvious intrusion on their pipeline already get them
chatting? It seems its got a large part of the mailing list already in
quite a bit of a stir. And where are all the Japanese guys, shouldn't they
be around here somewhere, to my knowledge quite a lot of game studios in
Japan are soft-based. This should be quite a big deal to them as well.


On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Sebastien Sterling <
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> you'd need to get all the big companies chatting, that would include the
> japanese compagnies as well.
>
>
> On 1 March 2014 13:27, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:
>
>> Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign up
>> actually have any chance of making a difference?  Theres the old saying
>> vote with your wallet... but what to do in this case?  I cant talk my boss
>> into buying more softimage licensees then seats we have in the office...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:
>>
>>> I guess that's "unnouncement" then?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Sebastien Sterling]

you'd need to get all the big companies chatting, that would include the
japanese compagnies as well.


On 1 March 2014 13:27, Ognjen Vukovic  wrote:

> Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign up
> actually have any chance of making a difference?  Theres the old saying
> vote with your wallet... but what to do in this case?  I cant talk my boss
> into buying more softimage licensees then seats we have in the office...
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:
>
>> I guess that's "unnouncement" then?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Ognjen Vukovic]

Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign up
actually have any chance of making a difference?  Theres the old saying
vote with your wallet... but what to do in this case?  I cant talk my boss
into buying more softimage licensees then seats we have in the office...


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Ed Manning  wrote:

> I guess that's "unnouncement" then?
>
>
>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Ed Manning]

I guess that's "unnouncement" then?

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Gustavo Eggert Boehs]

The unnanounced announcement. Odd times

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Sebastien Sterling]

I think he means in prevention if they do come up with a statement Cir


On 28 February 2014 18:58, Ciaran Moloney  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
>
>>
>> Don't stop your R&D and updateds on your wonderful tools for Softimage
>> just because ADSK announce that Softimage 2015 will be the last release.
>>
>
> I haven't been following very closely, but where is this announcement?
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Ciaran Moloney]

On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

>
> Don't stop your R&D and updateds on your wonderful tools for Softimage
> just because ADSK announce that Softimage 2015 will be the last release.
>

I haven't been following very closely, but where is this announcement?

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Daniel Sweeney]

Im defo gonna keep using soft as a tool til it cant work any more, but it
will definately be a duel pipeline, mixing in another app. have to work out
what that app is yet.

looking at modo.

but as a tool soft will still be very valuable!! if it does happen it will
be a very sad ending.



Daniel Sweeney
3D Creative Director

*Mobile:* +44 (0)7743429771
*Email:* dan...@northforge.co.uk
*Web:* http://northforge.co.uk


On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Nika Ragua  wrote:

> i`m in - not that i`m calling myself a "developer" - but i messed hardly
> with topology lately and got some results that i want to share as always )))
>
>
> 2014-02-28 14:51 GMT+04:00 Emilio Hernandez :
>
> Maybe I am a little ahead in time but just in case
>>
>> Don't stop your R&D and updateds on your wonderful tools for Softimage
>> just because ADSK announce that Softimage 2015 will be the last release.
>>
>> Although there are a lot of guys as Mirko said "jumping off the boat",
>> there are a lot of us that will still continue to use Softimage for a long
>> period.
>>
>>
>> You are the ones that always have made me stand with my mouth open
>> staring at what are the possibilities I can achiveve within my prefered
>> tool.
>>
>> You are the ones that since ADSK bought Softimage, brought us more joy in
>> using our beloved tool.
>>
>> Not because we are fanatics trying to hold on a sinking boat like the
>> musicians of the Titanic.  Becuase we love what we do, and we have passion
>> in our daily work.
>>
>> We are not just another piece in the pipeline.  We are the ones driving
>> the pipeline.
>>
>> Exocortex, Solid Angle, Mootz, Redshift, Lagoa just to name a few,
>> besides the guys that gladly share their tools in rray with support are
>> really the ones that during this years have made Softimage even better than
>> it is.
>>
>> Guys like Paul Smith with his amazing videos, the latest Fuzz development
>> he is working in.  Michael Buttner.  Well the list is long.
>>
>> I want to say all of you don't stop!
>>
>> Here is my money for you to take as long as you continue to support us
>> and believe in what we do.
>>
>> No more money to ADSK!
>>
>> My money is going to the Devs!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Softimage Devs petition

[Nika Ragua]

i`m in - not that i`m calling myself a "developer" - but i messed hardly
with topology lately and got some results that i want to share as always )))


2014-02-28 14:51 GMT+04:00 Emilio Hernandez :

> Maybe I am a little ahead in time but just in case
>
> Don't stop your R&D and updateds on your wonderful tools for Softimage
> just because ADSK announce that Softimage 2015 will be the last release.
>
> Although there are a lot of guys as Mirko said "jumping off the boat",
> there are a lot of us that will still continue to use Softimage for a long
> period.
>
>
> You are the ones that always have made me stand with my mouth open staring
> at what are the possibilities I can achiveve within my prefered tool.
>
> You are the ones that since ADSK bought Softimage, brought us more joy in
> using our beloved tool.
>
> Not because we are fanatics trying to hold on a sinking boat like the
> musicians of the Titanic.  Becuase we love what we do, and we have passion
> in our daily work.
>
> We are not just another piece in the pipeline.  We are the ones driving
> the pipeline.
>
> Exocortex, Solid Angle, Mootz, Redshift, Lagoa just to name a few, besides
> the guys that gladly share their tools in rray with support are really the
> ones that during this years have made Softimage even better than it is.
>
> Guys like Paul Smith with his amazing videos, the latest Fuzz development
> he is working in.  Michael Buttner.  Well the list is long.
>
> I want to say all of you don't stop!
>
> Here is my money for you to take as long as you continue to support us and
> believe in what we do.
>
> No more money to ADSK!
>
> My money is going to the Devs!
>
>
>
>

Softimage Devs petition

[Emilio Hernandez]

Maybe I am a little ahead in time but just in case

Don't stop your R&D and updateds on your wonderful tools for Softimage just
because ADSK announce that Softimage 2015 will be the last release.

Although there are a lot of guys as Mirko said "jumping off the boat",
there are a lot of us that will still continue to use Softimage for a long
period.


You are the ones that always have made me stand with my mouth open staring
at what are the possibilities I can achiveve within my prefered tool.

You are the ones that since ADSK bought Softimage, brought us more joy in
using our beloved tool.

Not because we are fanatics trying to hold on a sinking boat like the
musicians of the Titanic.  Becuase we love what we do, and we have passion
in our daily work.

We are not just another piece in the pipeline.  We are the ones driving the
pipeline.

Exocortex, Solid Angle, Mootz, Redshift, Lagoa just to name a few, besides
the guys that gladly share their tools in rray with support are really the
ones that during this years have made Softimage even better than it is.

Guys like Paul Smith with his amazing videos, the latest Fuzz development
he is working in.  Michael Buttner.  Well the list is long.

I want to say all of you don't stop!

Here is my money for you to take as long as you continue to support us and
believe in what we do.

No more money to ADSK!

My money is going to the Devs!