RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Morten Bartholdy]

GATOR is also indispensable after they broke the UV management on booleans. I 
still have 2013 SP1 installed for doing booleans, but GATOR is helpful in many 
cases when I don want to fire up 2013.

MB



> Den 19. juni 2017 klokken 22:15 skrev Sven Constable 
> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> 
> 
> I used it just today. Very handy for retopo, if you can't rely entirely on 
> the 'texture swimming' function to retain the original projection. Working on 
> a duplicate of the original mesh, remodel it in any way, even freeze it and 
> have an interactive reprojection of the base meshs UVs. I love XSI…:)
> 
>  
> 
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:08 PM
> To: Official Softimage Users Mailing List. 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list
> Subject: Re: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
> 
>  
> 
> I remember Chinny doing a big demo of Gator and its amazing asset transfer 
> capabilities for characters etc being a big big thing at the time. Must've 
> been around XSI 5 or 6.
> 
>  
> 
> On 18 June 2017 at 22:29, Sven Constable <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote:
> 
> btw. I also checked with version 2.02 aaand it's not in there. So you're
> right, XSI never had that functionality. Apparently I mixed it up with
> Softimage 3D.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:32 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
> 
> Softimage|3D supported Texture UV coordinates in the NURBS to polygon
> Softimage|mesh
> 
> conversion, but XSI never did.  It was the only geometry type available in
> XSI 1.0, and some enhancements were implemented in XSI v3.x, but NURBS
> development was more or less abandoned after that.
> 
> GATOR wasn't introduced until XSI v5.0
> 
> Scripting your own NURBS to polygon mesh converter with texture coordinates
> isn't difficult.  You can think of a NURBS surface as a deformed grid
> comprised of 4-sided polygons, and the Texture UVW coordinates are
> guaranteed to be contiguous.  If you build the geometry correctly,
> transferring texture UVW coordinates is practically copy/paste.
> 
> Things only get complex if trim curves are involved.
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:22:52 +0200
> From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
> Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
> To: "'Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
> 
> My first thought was it was replaced by gator and therefore deprecated.  Out
> of curiosity I checked from version 2011, 7.01, 6.02 down to 4.0. It's not
> in there, even 4.0 didn't had gator. Must be replaced in an earlier version.
> I wonder why.
> 
> Sven
> 
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RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Sven Constable]

I used it just today. Very handy for retopo, if you can't rely entirely on the 
'texture swimming' function to retain the original projection. Working on a 
duplicate of the original mesh, remodel it in any way, even freeze it and have 
an interactive reprojection of the base meshs UVs. I love XSI…:)

 

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:08 PM
To: Official Softimage Users Mailing List. 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list
Subject: Re: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

 

I remember Chinny doing a big demo of Gator and its amazing asset transfer 
capabilities for characters etc being a big big thing at the time. Must've been 
around XSI 5 or 6.

 

On 18 June 2017 at 22:29, Sven Constable <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote:

btw. I also checked with version 2.02 aaand it's not in there. So you're
right, XSI never had that functionality. Apparently I mixed it up with
Softimage 3D.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:32 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

Softimage|3D supported Texture UV coordinates in the NURBS to polygon
Softimage|mesh

conversion, but XSI never did.  It was the only geometry type available in
XSI 1.0, and some enhancements were implemented in XSI v3.x, but NURBS
development was more or less abandoned after that.

GATOR wasn't introduced until XSI v5.0

Scripting your own NURBS to polygon mesh converter with texture coordinates
isn't difficult.  You can think of a NURBS surface as a deformed grid
comprised of 4-sided polygons, and the Texture UVW coordinates are
guaranteed to be contiguous.  If you build the geometry correctly,
transferring texture UVW coordinates is practically copy/paste.

Things only get complex if trim curves are involved.

Matt




Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:22:52 +0200
From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
To: "'Official Softimage Users Mailing List.

My first thought was it was replaced by gator and therefore deprecated.  Out
of curiosity I checked from version 2011, 7.01, 6.02 down to 4.0. It's not
in there, even 4.0 didn't had gator. Must be replaced in an earlier version.
I wonder why.

Sven


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Re: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Chris Marshall]

I remember Chinny doing a big demo of Gator and its amazing asset transfer
capabilities for characters etc being a big big thing at the time. Must've
been around XSI 5 or 6.


On 18 June 2017 at 22:29, Sven Constable <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote:

> btw. I also checked with version 2.02 aaand it's not in there. So you're
> right, XSI never had that functionality. Apparently I mixed it up with
> Softimage 3D.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:32 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
>
> Softimage|3D supported Texture UV coordinates in the NURBS to polygon
> Softimage|mesh
> conversion, but XSI never did.  It was the only geometry type available in
> XSI 1.0, and some enhancements were implemented in XSI v3.x, but NURBS
> development was more or less abandoned after that.
>
> GATOR wasn't introduced until XSI v5.0
>
> Scripting your own NURBS to polygon mesh converter with texture coordinates
> isn't difficult.  You can think of a NURBS surface as a deformed grid
> comprised of 4-sided polygons, and the Texture UVW coordinates are
> guaranteed to be contiguous.  If you build the geometry correctly,
> transferring texture UVW coordinates is practically copy/paste.
>
> Things only get complex if trim curves are involved.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:22:52 +0200
> From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
> Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
> To: "'Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
>
> My first thought was it was replaced by gator and therefore deprecated.
> Out
> of curiosity I checked from version 2011, 7.01, 6.02 down to 4.0. It's not
> in there, even 4.0 didn't had gator. Must be replaced in an earlier
> version.
> I wonder why.
>
> Sven
>
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RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Sven Constable]

btw. I also checked with version 2.02 aaand it's not in there. So you're
right, XSI never had that functionality. Apparently I mixed it up with
Softimage 3D. 

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:32 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

Softimage|3D supported Texture UV coordinates in the NURBS to polygon 
Softimage|mesh
conversion, but XSI never did.  It was the only geometry type available in
XSI 1.0, and some enhancements were implemented in XSI v3.x, but NURBS
development was more or less abandoned after that.

GATOR wasn't introduced until XSI v5.0

Scripting your own NURBS to polygon mesh converter with texture coordinates
isn't difficult.  You can think of a NURBS surface as a deformed grid
comprised of 4-sided polygons, and the Texture UVW coordinates are
guaranteed to be contiguous.  If you build the geometry correctly,
transferring texture UVW coordinates is practically copy/paste.

Things only get complex if trim curves are involved.

Matt




Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:22:52 +0200
From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
To: "'Official Softimage Users Mailing List.

My first thought was it was replaced by gator and therefore deprecated.  Out
of curiosity I checked from version 2011, 7.01, 6.02 down to 4.0. It's not
in there, even 4.0 didn't had gator. Must be replaced in an earlier version.
I wonder why.

Sven 


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RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Matt Lind]

Softimage|3D supported Texture UV coordinates in the NURBS to polygon mesh 
conversion, but XSI never did.  It was the only geometry type available in 
XSI 1.0, and some enhancements were implemented in XSI v3.x, but NURBS 
development was more or less abandoned after that.

GATOR wasn't introduced until XSI v5.0

Scripting your own NURBS to polygon mesh converter with texture coordinates 
isn't difficult.  You can think of a NURBS surface as a deformed grid 
comprised of 4-sided polygons, and the Texture UVW coordinates are 
guaranteed to be contiguous.  If you build the geometry correctly, 
transferring texture UVW coordinates is practically copy/paste.

Things only get complex if trim curves are involved.

Matt




Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:22:52 +0200
From: "Sven Constable" <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>
Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
To: "'Official Softimage Users Mailing List.

My first thought was it was replaced by gator and therefore deprecated.  Out
of curiosity I checked from version 2011, 7.01, 6.02 down to 4.0. It's not
in there, even 4.0 didn't had gator. Must be replaced in an earlier version.
I wonder why.

Sven 


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RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Sven Constable]

My first thought was it was replaced by gator and therefore deprecated.  Out
of curiosity I checked from version 2011, 7.01, 6.02 down to 4.0. It's not
in there, even 4.0 didn't had gator. Must be replaced in an earlier version.
I wonder why.

Sven 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Morten
Bartholdy
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 PM
To: Official Softimage Users Mailing List.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/xsi_list
Subject: RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

I am almost certain this was possible in earlier versions of XSI. I just
checked 2013 SP1 which I keep but no luck there either...

It was possible in the venerable old Softimage 3D though.

GATOR does it, but not very clean at seams..

MB


> Den 14. juni 2017 klokken 11:54 skrev Sven Constable
<sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> 
> 
> I was almost certain, the Poly.Mesh->Nurbs to Mesh function had an option
to transfer UVs but it doesn't. Gator is your best option, I would think.
> 
> Sven
> 
>  
> 
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:47 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
> 
>  
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> OK This is an old school soft question. I'm creating a poly from a nurbs
surface and want to transfer the uv's but I'm struggling. I never really
used Gator, not sure if this is how to do it. Any ideas / workflows on this?
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> Chris
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Re: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Chris Marshall]

I got Gator to work just fone. Just needed the right workflow etc and now
it's all cool.
Cheers


On 14 June 2017 at 14:49, Thomas Volkmann <li...@thomasvolkmann.com> wrote:

> ICE should work too right?
> Create dummy UVs on the mesh, create an ice tree, and then it's:
> get NodePosition  and  SurfaceGeo into getClosestLocation, get UVWs on
> that location and set your dummy UVWs to that value.
>
>
> > Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> hat am 14. Juni 2017 um 15:33
> geschrieben:
>
> >
> >
> > I am almost certain this was possible in earlier versions of XSI. I just
> checked 2013 SP1 which I keep but no luck there either...
> >
> > It was possible in the venerable old Softimage 3D though.
> >
> > GATOR does it, but not very clean at seams..
> >
> > MB
> >
> >
> > > Den 14. juni 2017 klokken 11:54 skrev Sven Constable <
> sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> > >
> > >
> > > I was almost certain, the Poly.Mesh->Nurbs to Mesh function had an
> option to transfer UVs but it doesn't. Gator is your best option, I would
> think.
> > >
> > > Sven
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:47 AM
> > > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> > > Subject: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > OK This is an old school soft question. I'm creating a poly from a
> nurbs surface and want to transfer the uv's but I'm struggling. I never
> really used Gator, not sure if this is how to do it. Any ideas / workflows
> on this?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
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RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Thomas Volkmann]

ICE should work too right?
Create dummy UVs on the mesh, create an ice tree, and then it's:
get NodePosition  and  SurfaceGeo into getClosestLocation, get UVWs on that
location and set your dummy UVWs to that value.
 

> Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> hat am 14. Juni 2017 um 15:33
> geschrieben:
>
>
> I am almost certain this was possible in earlier versions of XSI. I just
> checked 2013 SP1 which I keep but no luck there either...
>
> It was possible in the venerable old Softimage 3D though.
>
> GATOR does it, but not very clean at seams..
>
> MB
>
>
> > Den 14. juni 2017 klokken 11:54 skrev Sven Constable
> > <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> >
> >
> > I was almost certain, the Poly.Mesh->Nurbs to Mesh function had an option to
> > transfer UVs but it doesn't. Gator is your best option, I would think.
> >
> > Sven
> >
> >
> >
> > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
> > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:47 AM
> > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> > Subject: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > OK This is an old school soft question. I'm creating a poly from a nurbs
> > surface and want to transfer the uv's but I'm struggling. I never really
> > used Gator, not sure if this is how to do it. Any ideas / workflows on this?
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> > Chris
> >
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RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Morten Bartholdy]

I am almost certain this was possible in earlier versions of XSI. I just 
checked 2013 SP1 which I keep but no luck there either...

It was possible in the venerable old Softimage 3D though.

GATOR does it, but not very clean at seams..

MB


> Den 14. juni 2017 klokken 11:54 skrev Sven Constable 
> <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de>:
> 
> 
> I was almost certain, the Poly.Mesh->Nurbs to Mesh function had an option to 
> transfer UVs but it doesn't. Gator is your best option, I would think.
> 
> Sven
> 
>  
> 
> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:47 AM
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> Subject: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
> 
>  
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> OK This is an old school soft question. I'm creating a poly from a nurbs 
> surface and want to transfer the uv's but I'm struggling. I never really used 
> Gator, not sure if this is how to do it. Any ideas / workflows on this?
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> Chris
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Re: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Chris Marshall]

I thought exactly the same. I'll check the Gator workflow.


On 14 June 2017 at 10:54, Sven Constable <sixsi_l...@imagefront.de> wrote:

> I was almost certain, the Poly.Mesh->Nurbs to Mesh function had an option
> to transfer UVs but it doesn't. Gator is your best option, I would think.
>
> Sven
>
>
>
> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
> listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Marshall
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:47 AM
> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> *Subject:* uvs transfer from nurbs to polys
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> OK This is an old school soft question. I'm creating a poly from a nurbs
> surface and want to transfer the uv's but I'm struggling. I never really
> used Gator, not sure if this is how to do it. Any ideas / workflows on this?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Chris
>
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RE: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Sven Constable]

I was almost certain, the Poly.Mesh->Nurbs to Mesh function had an option to 
transfer UVs but it doesn't. Gator is your best option, I would think.

Sven

 

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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Marshall
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:47 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

 

Hi All,

OK This is an old school soft question. I'm creating a poly from a nurbs 
surface and want to transfer the uv's but I'm struggling. I never really used 
Gator, not sure if this is how to do it. Any ideas / workflows on this?

Thanks a lot

Chris

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Re: uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Chris Marshall]

assuming this is actually possible.

On 14 June 2017 at 09:47, Chris Marshall  wrote:

> Hi All,
> OK This is an old school soft question. I'm creating a poly from a nurbs
> surface and want to transfer the uv's but I'm struggling. I never really
> used Gator, not sure if this is how to do it. Any ideas / workflows on this?
> Thanks a lot
>
> Chris
>
>


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uvs transfer from nurbs to polys

[Chris Marshall]

Hi All,
OK This is an old school soft question. I'm creating a poly from a nurbs
surface and want to transfer the uv's but I'm struggling. I never really
used Gator, not sure if this is how to do it. Any ideas / workflows on this?
Thanks a lot

Chris
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