Re: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

2021-08-05 Thread Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum
Considering all the comments: ",,,the vehicle is parked temporarily and a
fire starts" (Scott). That could be while I'm still in the taxi
settling up with the driver. That would imply stopping is permanent
parking. "Merriam-Webster's
Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, shall be the source for the ordinarily
accepted meaning." (Matthew). There is a shall directly from the Good Book,
General: 3.1. "...a dictionary which will define temporary as "lasting for
only a limited period of time; not permanent."" (Taylor). "Lasting or
intended to last or remain unchanged indefinitely." (from my easy access
dictionary, not from Webster) (Me). Suggests then that all parking is
temporary. "...what if a truck full of fireworks parks here?" (John). As to
"what ifs," Timothy McVeigh intended for his truck to only be parked
temporarily in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 11:42 AM Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum <
sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote:

> Taylor beat me to it, but here is your verbiage to support Taylor's
> suggestion.
>
> 3.1 General.
> The definitions contained in this chapter shall apply to the terms used in
> this standard. Where
> terms are not defined in this chapter or within another chapter, they
> shall be defined using their
> ordinarily accepted meanings within the context in which they are used.
> Merriam-Webster's
> Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, shall be the source for the
> ordinarily accepted meaning.
>
> R/
> Matt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sprinklerforum  On
> Behalf Of Taylor Schumacher via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 11:45 AM
> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> Cc: Taylor Schumacher 
> Subject: RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking
>
> AHJ's get really fun in a hurry when arguing semantics. Point this
> individual to a dictionary which will define temporary as "lasting for only
> a limited period of time; not permanent." If permanent parking is meant to
> assume parked for the night, it would be a REASONABLE assumption that a
> delivery driver would only ever be parked in a temporary fashion, not
> permanently.
>
> I think the term temporary was chosen in the standard for the sole reason
> of it not having a definite time. Otherwise it would have to be enforced
> and monitored.
>
> I have found that in situations like this, the only resolution is to bug
> the awesome people over at AFSA Technical Services for an informal
> interpretation.
>
> Taylor Schumacher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sprinklerforum  On
> Behalf Of John Irwin via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 12:26 PM
> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> Cc: John Irwin ; Aaron Peck <
> ap...@quickresponsefl.com>; Andrew Baldwin ;
> Roberto Alvarez 
> Subject: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking
>
> So I'm going 12 rounds with a local fire marshal who wants to define what
> temporary parking means, under a drive through canopy. His logic is that he
> doesn't know how long a vehicle will be parked.  His exact concerns are as
> follows: "Our answer was yes do to deliveries made and not knowing how long
> that vehicle would be sitting in that area...  delivery vehicles would be
> sitting long periods of time and the code does not provide a time table for
> temporary parking. It is my opinion that temporary parking would be of a
> taxi/lift or other type drop off service and not delivery vehicles or any
> other  type of parking. This was explained to you and your staff. How are
> you going to enforce temporary parking? What is the time frame  for
> temporary parking?"
>
> I have not been able to find an unofficial code interpretation for this. I
> believe he's incorporating too many "what if" scenarios. I was going to
> respond what if a truck full of fireworks parks here? Should we protect for
> extra hazard then?
>
> Anyone have anything to help me convince him he's wrong? Should I pursue
> an interpretation from AFSA or NFPA?
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> John Irwin<https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrirwin/>
> Quick Response Fire Protection
> www.quickresponsefl.com
> Office: 844-9QUICKFL
> Cell: 727-282-9243
> Main Office: 20545 Independence Blvd. Unit G Groveland, Florida 34736 West
> Coast: 15201 Roosevelt Blvd., Suite 113, Clearwater, Florida 33760
> East Coast:   3133 Skyway Circle, Suite 104, Melbourne, Florida 32934
> 24 Hour Emergency Service Available 1-844-9QUICKFL
>
>
> "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low
> price is forgotten.&qu

RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

2021-08-05 Thread Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum
Taylor beat me to it, but here is your verbiage to support Taylor's suggestion.

3.1 General.
The definitions contained in this chapter shall apply to the terms used in this 
standard. Where 
terms are not defined in this chapter or within another chapter, they shall be 
defined using their 
ordinarily accepted meanings within the context in which they are used. 
Merriam-Webster's 
Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, shall be the source for the ordinarily 
accepted meaning.

R/
Matt

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Subject: RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

AHJ's get really fun in a hurry when arguing semantics. Point this individual 
to a dictionary which will define temporary as "lasting for only a limited 
period of time; not permanent." If permanent parking is meant to assume parked 
for the night, it would be a REASONABLE assumption that a delivery driver would 
only ever be parked in a temporary fashion, not permanently.

I think the term temporary was chosen in the standard for the sole reason of it 
not having a definite time. Otherwise it would have to be enforced and 
monitored.

I have found that in situations like this, the only resolution is to bug the 
awesome people over at AFSA Technical Services for an informal interpretation.

Taylor Schumacher 



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Cc: John Irwin ; Aaron Peck 
; Andrew Baldwin ; 
Roberto Alvarez 
Subject: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

So I'm going 12 rounds with a local fire marshal who wants to define what 
temporary parking means, under a drive through canopy. His logic is that he 
doesn't know how long a vehicle will be parked.  His exact concerns are as 
follows: "Our answer was yes do to deliveries made and not knowing how long 
that vehicle would be sitting in that area...  delivery vehicles would be 
sitting long periods of time and the code does not provide a time table for 
temporary parking. It is my opinion that temporary parking would be of a 
taxi/lift or other type drop off service and not delivery vehicles or any other 
 type of parking. This was explained to you and your staff. How are you going 
to enforce temporary parking? What is the time frame  for temporary parking?"

I have not been able to find an unofficial code interpretation for this. I 
believe he's incorporating too many "what if" scenarios. I was going to respond 
what if a truck full of fireworks parks here? Should we protect for extra 
hazard then?

Anyone have anything to help me convince him he's wrong? Should I pursue an 
interpretation from AFSA or NFPA?

Thank you



John Irwin<https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrirwin/>
Quick Response Fire Protection
www.quickresponsefl.com
Office: 844-9QUICKFL
Cell: 727-282-9243
Main Office: 20545 Independence Blvd. Unit G Groveland, Florida 34736 West 
Coast: 15201 Roosevelt Blvd., Suite 113, Clearwater, Florida 33760
East Coast:   3133 Skyway Circle, Suite 104, Melbourne, Florida 32934
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RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

2021-08-05 Thread Scott Futrell via Sprinklerforum
Appreciate that John. I don't see that information in the original post. Sorry 
I missed the key information and I wouldn't have been a smart*** if I read it 
correctly and thoroughly.
I write, and am governed by, state law as well as professional engineer rules 
and ethics and sprinkler contractor rules.
Electric and gas-powered vehicles start on fire and if that happens under any 
canopy building structural integrity and firefighting operations can be 
compromised.
Best Regards,

Scott

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From: John Irwin 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 1:12 PM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org; Scott Futrell 
Cc: Aaron Peck ; Andrew Baldwin 
; Roberto Alvarez 
Subject: Re: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

Scott, I can appreciate all of that, but Florida has a state fire code. And we 
as life safety professionals (contractors or AHJs) don't get to debate and 
write code for each job. We're talking about a regular old covered drive 
through. Not a dock meant for loading. It's a porte cochere. And parking is 
temporary.
John Irwin
Director Of Construction
Quick Response Fire Protection
727-282-9243
Typed on tiny keys, just for you. Please forgive spelling errors, typographical 
transgressions and grammatical gaffs.


From: Scott Futrell mailto:sco...@ffcdi.com>>
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mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>>
Cc: John Irwin mailto:jir...@quickresponsefl.com>>; 
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Alvarez mailto:ralva...@quickresponsefl.com>>
Subject: RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

I can't wait to hear what John and Kevin have to say.
It seems that if the sprinkler system understands the vehicle parked under the 
canopy is only there temporarily then it isn't a problem. However, if the 
sprinkler system doesn't understand the vehicle is parked temporarily and a 
fire starts (that can and does happen), that can spread to the building (which 
can and does happen), then the sprinkler system has to know how to control that 
fire, right?
There could certainly be variables 1 - structure construction; 2 - use for 
autos and people only; 3) deliveries with small vehicles only; 4) deliveries 
with large vehicles; 5) deliveries with tractor trailers; 6) size of canopy, 
so, each situation should be evaluated separately.
Is this any different then a loading dock? The dock (inside or out) doesn't 
always have a fuel load, but if the fire starts when there are pallets of 
combustibles on the dock how should it be protected?

Scott

Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2
Cell: (612) 759-5556

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Aaron Peck mailto:ap...@quickresponsefl.com>>; 
Andrew Baldwin 
mailto:abald...@quickresponsefl.com>>; Roberto 
Alvarez mailto:ralva...@quickresponsefl.com>>
Subject: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

So I'm going 12 rounds with a local fire marshal who wants to define what 
temporary parking means, under a drive through canopy. His logic is that he 
doesn't know how long a vehicle will be parked.  His exact concerns are as 
follows: "Our answer was yes do to deliveries made and not knowing how long 
that vehicle would be sitting in that area...  delivery vehicles would be 
sitting long periods of time and the code does not provide a time table for 
temporary parking. It is my opinion that temporary parking would be of a 
taxi/lift or other type drop off service and not delivery vehicles or any other 
 type of parking. This was explained to you and your staff. How are you going 
to enforce temporary parking? What is the time frame  for temporary parking?"

I have not been able to find an unofficial code interpretation for this. I 
believe he's incorporating too many "what if" scenarios. I was going to respond 
what if a truck full of fireworks parks here? Should we protect for extra 
hazard then?

Anyone have anything to help me convince him he's wrong? Should I pursue an 
interpretation from AFSA or NFPA?

Thank you



John Irwin<https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrirwin/>
Quick Response Fire Protection
www.quickresponsefl.com<http://www.quickresponsefl.com>
Office: 844-9QUICKFL
Cell: 727-282-9243
Main Office: 20545 Independence Blvd. Unit G Groveland, Florida 34736 West 
Coast: 15201 Roosevelt Blvd., Suite 113, Clearwater, Florida 33760
East Coast:   3133 Skyway Circle, Su

Re: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

2021-08-05 Thread John Irwin via Sprinklerforum
Scott, I can appreciate all of that, but Florida has a state fire code. And we 
as life safety professionals (contractors or AHJs) don't get to debate and 
write code for each job. We're talking about a regular old covered drive 
through. Not a dock meant for loading. It's a porte cochere. And parking is 
temporary.

John Irwin

Director Of Construction
Quick Response Fire Protection
727-282-9243

Typed on tiny keys, just for you. Please forgive spelling errors, typographical 
transgressions and grammatical gaffs.


From: Scott Futrell 
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 2:04:31 PM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org 

Cc: John Irwin ; Aaron Peck 
; Andrew Baldwin ; 
Roberto Alvarez 
Subject: RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

I can't wait to hear what John and Kevin have to say.
It seems that if the sprinkler system understands the vehicle parked under the 
canopy is only there temporarily then it isn't a problem. However, if the 
sprinkler system doesn't understand the vehicle is parked temporarily and a 
fire starts (that can and does happen), that can spread to the building (which 
can and does happen), then the sprinkler system has to know how to control that 
fire, right?
There could certainly be variables 1 - structure construction; 2 - use for 
autos and people only; 3) deliveries with small vehicles only; 4) deliveries 
with large vehicles; 5) deliveries with tractor trailers; 6) size of canopy, 
so, each situation should be evaluated separately.
Is this any different then a loading dock? The dock (inside or out) doesn't 
always have a fuel load, but if the fire starts when there are pallets of 
combustibles on the dock how should it be protected?

Scott

Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2
Cell: (612) 759-5556

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Cc: John Irwin ; Aaron Peck 
; Andrew Baldwin ; 
Roberto Alvarez 
Subject: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

So I'm going 12 rounds with a local fire marshal who wants to define what 
temporary parking means, under a drive through canopy. His logic is that he 
doesn't know how long a vehicle will be parked.  His exact concerns are as 
follows: "Our answer was yes do to deliveries made and not knowing how long 
that vehicle would be sitting in that area...  delivery vehicles would be 
sitting long periods of time and the code does not provide a time table for 
temporary parking. It is my opinion that temporary parking would be of a 
taxi/lift or other type drop off service and not delivery vehicles or any other 
 type of parking. This was explained to you and your staff. How are you going 
to enforce temporary parking? What is the time frame  for temporary parking?"

I have not been able to find an unofficial code interpretation for this. I 
believe he's incorporating too many "what if" scenarios. I was going to respond 
what if a truck full of fireworks parks here? Should we protect for extra 
hazard then?

Anyone have anything to help me convince him he's wrong? Should I pursue an 
interpretation from AFSA or NFPA?

Thank you



John Irwin<https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrirwin/>
Quick Response Fire Protection
www.quickresponsefl.com<http://www.quickresponsefl.com>
Office: 844-9QUICKFL
Cell: 727-282-9243
Main Office: 20545 Independence Blvd. Unit G Groveland, Florida 34736 West 
Coast: 15201 Roosevelt Blvd., Suite 113, Clearwater, Florida 33760
East Coast:   3133 Skyway Circle, Suite 104, Melbourne, Florida 32934
24 Hour Emergency Service Available 1-844-9QUICKFL


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RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

2021-08-05 Thread Scott Futrell via Sprinklerforum
I can't wait to hear what John and Kevin have to say.
It seems that if the sprinkler system understands the vehicle parked under the 
canopy is only there temporarily then it isn't a problem. However, if the 
sprinkler system doesn't understand the vehicle is parked temporarily and a 
fire starts (that can and does happen), that can spread to the building (which 
can and does happen), then the sprinkler system has to know how to control that 
fire, right?
There could certainly be variables 1 - structure construction; 2 - use for 
autos and people only; 3) deliveries with small vehicles only; 4) deliveries 
with large vehicles; 5) deliveries with tractor trailers; 6) size of canopy, 
so, each situation should be evaluated separately.
Is this any different then a loading dock? The dock (inside or out) doesn't 
always have a fuel load, but if the fire starts when there are pallets of 
combustibles on the dock how should it be protected?

Scott
 
Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2
Cell: (612) 759-5556

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Cc: John Irwin ; Aaron Peck 
; Andrew Baldwin ; 
Roberto Alvarez 
Subject: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

So I'm going 12 rounds with a local fire marshal who wants to define what 
temporary parking means, under a drive through canopy. His logic is that he 
doesn't know how long a vehicle will be parked.  His exact concerns are as 
follows: "Our answer was yes do to deliveries made and not knowing how long 
that vehicle would be sitting in that area...  delivery vehicles would be 
sitting long periods of time and the code does not provide a time table for 
temporary parking. It is my opinion that temporary parking would be of a 
taxi/lift or other type drop off service and not delivery vehicles or any other 
 type of parking. This was explained to you and your staff. How are you going 
to enforce temporary parking? What is the time frame  for temporary parking?"

I have not been able to find an unofficial code interpretation for this. I 
believe he's incorporating too many "what if" scenarios. I was going to respond 
what if a truck full of fireworks parks here? Should we protect for extra 
hazard then?

Anyone have anything to help me convince him he's wrong? Should I pursue an 
interpretation from AFSA or NFPA?

Thank you



John Irwin
Quick Response Fire Protection
www.quickresponsefl.com
Office: 844-9QUICKFL
Cell: 727-282-9243
Main Office: 20545 Independence Blvd. Unit G Groveland, Florida 34736 West 
Coast: 15201 Roosevelt Blvd., Suite 113, Clearwater, Florida 33760
East Coast:   3133 Skyway Circle, Suite 104, Melbourne, Florida 32934
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RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

2021-08-05 Thread Bruce Hermanson via Sprinklerforum
Might want to rethink the truck full of fire works comment. Save it for the
steering wheel when you are driving home.
Appendix A.8.15.7.2 and A.8.15.7.5 NFPA 13 2013 Edition (yes Michigan is
really moving on getting current) 
I feel explains it pretty well.
Bruce

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Subject: RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

AHJ's get really fun in a hurry when arguing semantics. Point this
individual to a dictionary which will define temporary as "lasting for only
a limited period of time; not permanent." If permanent parking is meant to
assume parked for the night, it would be a REASONABLE assumption that a
delivery driver would only ever be parked in a temporary fashion, not
permanently.

I think the term temporary was chosen in the standard for the sole reason of
it not having a definite time. Otherwise it would have to be enforced and
monitored.

I have found that in situations like this, the only resolution is to bug the
awesome people over at AFSA Technical Services for an informal
interpretation.

Taylor Schumacher 



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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 12:26 PM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Cc: John Irwin ; Aaron Peck
; Andrew Baldwin ;
Roberto Alvarez 
Subject: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

So I'm going 12 rounds with a local fire marshal who wants to define what
temporary parking means, under a drive through canopy. His logic is that he
doesn't know how long a vehicle will be parked.  His exact concerns are as
follows: "Our answer was yes do to deliveries made and not knowing how long
that vehicle would be sitting in that area...  delivery vehicles would be
sitting long periods of time and the code does not provide a time table for
temporary parking. It is my opinion that temporary parking would be of a
taxi/lift or other type drop off service and not delivery vehicles or any
other  type of parking. This was explained to you and your staff. How are
you going to enforce temporary parking? What is the time frame  for
temporary parking?"

I have not been able to find an unofficial code interpretation for this. I
believe he's incorporating too many "what if" scenarios. I was going to
respond what if a truck full of fireworks parks here? Should we protect for
extra hazard then?

Anyone have anything to help me convince him he's wrong? Should I pursue an
interpretation from AFSA or NFPA?

Thank you



John Irwin<https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrirwin/>
Quick Response Fire Protection
www.quickresponsefl.com
Office: 844-9QUICKFL
Cell: 727-282-9243
Main Office: 20545 Independence Blvd. Unit G Groveland, Florida 34736 West
Coast: 15201 Roosevelt Blvd., Suite 113, Clearwater, Florida 33760
East Coast:   3133 Skyway Circle, Suite 104, Melbourne, Florida 32934
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RE: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

2021-08-05 Thread Taylor Schumacher via Sprinklerforum
AHJ's get really fun in a hurry when arguing semantics. Point this individual 
to a dictionary which will define temporary as "lasting for only a limited 
period of time; not permanent." If permanent parking is meant to assume parked 
for the night, it would be a REASONABLE assumption that a delivery driver would 
only ever be parked in a temporary fashion, not permanently.

I think the term temporary was chosen in the standard for the sole reason of it 
not having a definite time. Otherwise it would have to be enforced and 
monitored.

I have found that in situations like this, the only resolution is to bug the 
awesome people over at AFSA Technical Services for an informal interpretation.

Taylor Schumacher 



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Cc: John Irwin ; Aaron Peck 
; Andrew Baldwin ; 
Roberto Alvarez 
Subject: NFPA 13 8.15.7.2 / 8.15.7.5 - Temporary Parking

So I'm going 12 rounds with a local fire marshal who wants to define what 
temporary parking means, under a drive through canopy. His logic is that he 
doesn't know how long a vehicle will be parked.  His exact concerns are as 
follows: "Our answer was yes do to deliveries made and not knowing how long 
that vehicle would be sitting in that area...  delivery vehicles would be 
sitting long periods of time and the code does not provide a time table for 
temporary parking. It is my opinion that temporary parking would be of a 
taxi/lift or other type drop off service and not delivery vehicles or any other 
 type of parking. This was explained to you and your staff. How are you going 
to enforce temporary parking? What is the time frame  for temporary parking?"

I have not been able to find an unofficial code interpretation for this. I 
believe he's incorporating too many "what if" scenarios. I was going to respond 
what if a truck full of fireworks parks here? Should we protect for extra 
hazard then?

Anyone have anything to help me convince him he's wrong? Should I pursue an 
interpretation from AFSA or NFPA?

Thank you



John Irwin
Quick Response Fire Protection
www.quickresponsefl.com
Office: 844-9QUICKFL
Cell: 727-282-9243
Main Office: 20545 Independence Blvd. Unit G Groveland, Florida 34736 West 
Coast: 15201 Roosevelt Blvd., Suite 113, Clearwater, Florida 33760
East Coast:   3133 Skyway Circle, Suite 104, Melbourne, Florida 32934
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