Re: [sqlite] SQLite.org needs online forms

2007-08-03 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 09:35:49 -0400, you wrote:

>Sounds like Wikipedia.  I understand that Wikipedia's software is Open
>Source and available.  Do you know of other Wiki servers that would suffice
>or be more on target?

There are several wiki software packages avaialble. 
The wiki server behind
http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki 
is more than adequate for its purpose. 

To answer some of your other questions:
The timeline 
http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/timeline 
and bugtracker reports 
http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/reportlist 
are informative the way they are. I can't see Sourceforge or
such would improve this.

To me, the (this) mailing list sqlite-users@sqlite.org and its
archives are better than any forum. It's easy enough to instruct
good anti-spam software to respect any mailing lists one is
subscribed to. And just like Andrew I prefer to have all info
pushed to me.
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite.org needs online forms

2007-08-03 Thread Mark Richards

john s wolter wrote:

SQLite.org in my opinion, needs to have online community forms.  I first
used majordomo ten years ago which is like the list manager being used for
sqlite-users@sqlite.org but in today's Internet it can be mistaken for
SPAM.  I do not know if SQLite would qualify because of the Public Domain
license but maybe sourceforge or the likes of freshmeat or other FOSS have
forms for all their hosted projects.  That would allow browsing of prior
support issues and make it easier for users to benefit from that collected
knowledege.  Let us all know how you react to this idea.


You mean "forums"?  This is an old and tired argument.

Please save the messages and search on them (I do this) or use google.

/m

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite.org needs online forms

2007-08-03 Thread john s wolter
Sounds like Wikipedia.  I understand that Wikipedia's software is Open
Source and available.  Do you know of other Wiki servers that would suffice
or be more on target?

On 8/3/07, Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 03/08/07, john s wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wiki's.   I have not used them myself.  What's the general idea?  Is
> there a
> > form type that would be easy to use?
> >
>
> wikis are very easy to use.  in short, its basically a "forum" where
> people can write and store information in a form that can be searched,
> browsed, and catalogued.   more like a tool for constructing a
> forever-changing book.
> useful to augment static documentation.
>
> a mailing list is like a discussion.
>
> a user forum like on sourceforge is a lot like a mailing list, except
> it is constrained into topics, logons, etc.
>
> so ideally, if one were to have a discussion on (for example) updates
> based on selects, as in another thread i've just replied to, once i
> have learned something i would then go to the wiki and put that on a
> page somewhere sensible.   if it wasn't a stupid question.  if it was,
> then i would put the answer on a "AnswersToStupidQuestions" wiki page.
>
> do this enough, and people will first refer to the wiki before asking
> for help on the mailing list.
>
> the mingw wiki is a good example of this.
>



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Re: [sqlite] SQLite.org needs online forms

2007-08-03 Thread Andrew Finkenstadt
I expect that for most of us, we prefer to get our information "pushed" to
us rather than having to go check laboriously each of the subject area's
forums that we are interested in.

Life is too short, otherwise.


Re: [sqlite] SQLite.org needs online forms

2007-08-03 Thread Paul Harris
On 03/08/07, john s wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wiki's.   I have not used them myself.  What's the general idea?  Is there a
> form type that would be easy to use?
>

wikis are very easy to use.  in short, its basically a "forum" where
people can write and store information in a form that can be searched,
browsed, and catalogued.   more like a tool for constructing a
forever-changing book.
useful to augment static documentation.

a mailing list is like a discussion.

a user forum like on sourceforge is a lot like a mailing list, except
it is constrained into topics, logons, etc.

so ideally, if one were to have a discussion on (for example) updates
based on selects, as in another thread i've just replied to, once i
have learned something i would then go to the wiki and put that on a
page somewhere sensible.   if it wasn't a stupid question.  if it was,
then i would put the answer on a "AnswersToStupidQuestions" wiki page.

do this enough, and people will first refer to the wiki before asking
for help on the mailing list.

the mingw wiki is a good example of this.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite.org needs online forms

2007-08-02 Thread john s wolter
Wiki's.   I have not used them myself.  What's the general idea?  Is there a
form type that would be easy to use?


On 8/3/07, Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i haven't been around long, but here's my 2c anyway,
>
> i find the sourceforge forums hopeless, any time I need to look for
> info on one of their projects, i end up looking through their mailing
> list - where forum posts are automatically sent to anyway.
>
> mailing lists are good for on-going issues.
> wikis are good when you need to persist that knowledge.
> bugzilla and bug DBs are ok, but not as useful as the previous 2 points.
>
> sqlite has the tools, now it just needs people to put that info into
> the wiki and improve the documentation to cover questions that are
> asked on the mailing list.
>
> On 03/08/07, john s wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > SQLite.org in my opinion, needs to have online community forms.  I first
> > used majordomo ten years ago which is like the list manager being used
> for
> > sqlite-users@sqlite.org but in today's Internet it can be mistaken for
> > SPAM.  I do not know if SQLite would qualify because of the Public
> Domain
> > license but maybe sourceforge or the likes of freshmeat or other FOSS
> have
> > forms for all their hosted projects.  That would allow browsing of prior
> > support issues and make it easier for users to benefit from that
> collected
> > knowledege.  Let us all know how you react to this idea.
> >
> > --
> > John S. Wolter President
> > Wolter Works
> > Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Desk 1-734-665-1263
> > Cell: 1-734-904-8433
> >
>



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Re: [sqlite] SQLite.org needs online forms

2007-08-02 Thread Paul Harris
i haven't been around long, but here's my 2c anyway,

i find the sourceforge forums hopeless, any time I need to look for
info on one of their projects, i end up looking through their mailing
list - where forum posts are automatically sent to anyway.

mailing lists are good for on-going issues.
wikis are good when you need to persist that knowledge.
bugzilla and bug DBs are ok, but not as useful as the previous 2 points.

sqlite has the tools, now it just needs people to put that info into
the wiki and improve the documentation to cover questions that are
asked on the mailing list.

On 03/08/07, john s wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SQLite.org in my opinion, needs to have online community forms.  I first
> used majordomo ten years ago which is like the list manager being used for
> sqlite-users@sqlite.org but in today's Internet it can be mistaken for
> SPAM.  I do not know if SQLite would qualify because of the Public Domain
> license but maybe sourceforge or the likes of freshmeat or other FOSS have
> forms for all their hosted projects.  That would allow browsing of prior
> support issues and make it easier for users to benefit from that collected
> knowledege.  Let us all know how you react to this idea.
>
> --
> John S. Wolter President
> Wolter Works
> Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Desk 1-734-665-1263
> Cell: 1-734-904-8433
>

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