Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread leinster-lad


slartibartfast wrote: 
> So in your second test alarm 2 played for 10 minutes? That contradicts
> your previous tests when the second alarm cancelled the first alarm but
> didn't play.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Yes, initially the 2nd alarm did no sound, however, with more testing
and stuffing around, other tests worked as expected.

This mornings alarms all executed as intended, so I have no idea why I
experienced that initial glitch.

No matter.
I am going to migrate my setup over to run on a Pi, so steep learning
curve ahead !


Thanks for all of your input, what a wonderful community :o



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins not updating

2021-06-15 Thread leinster-lad


Redrum wrote: 
> +1. I could have written this :). Exactly my setup and experience. I
> have two 3b+ pcP LMS only (with USB HDD), and have deployed 2 others to
> friends.
> 
> I have  4 that I just started paying with, but have found the 3B+ fine
> for my needs. 
> 
> There are several threads where "new to the setup" (myself included)
> have been walked through by allot of good people and advice. If you
> like, I'll search and post the threads...
> 
> Jim


Thanks guys, some links would be very helpful at this point. looks like
I am about to dive head-first into the Pi rabbit hole !!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins not updating

2021-06-15 Thread Redrum


P Nelson wrote: 
> I use a Pi to run LMS with an attached hard drive. The PCp player
> includes Samba which will allow window 10 system to connect to the pi. 
> I also use my windows system to add music and also use the hard drive
> attached to the pi as a on-site backup. 
> 
> I am not a Linux expert and I was able to set it up and use it. 
> 
> You will need a pi, case, and power supply. If you are concerned about
> electric use and heat, you might want a pi 3B.  If you want a faster USB
> hub and want the latest get a 4.  Read through the Pi core player
> documentation, it is not difficult but you do need atttention to syntax
> details. 
> 
> I had put off the transition to the pi, but wish I did it sooner as I am
> very happy with the little box that take up little space, makes no
> sound, and uses a lot less electricity than running a larger computer. 
> 
> Good luck.

+1. I could have written this :). Exactly my setup and experience. I
have two 3b+ pcP LMS only (with USB HDD), and have deployed 2 others to
friends.

I have  4 that I just started paying with, but have found the 3B+ fine
for my needs. 

There are several threads where "new to the setup" (myself included)
have been walked through by allot of good people and advice. If you
like, I'll search and post the threads...

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins not updating

2021-06-15 Thread garym


P Nelson wrote: 
> I use a Pi to run LMS with an attached hard drive. The PCp player
> includes Samba which will allow window 10 system to connect to the pi. 
> I also use my windows system to add music and also use the hard drive
> attached to the pi as a on-site backup. 
> 
> I am not a Linux expert and I was able to set it up and use it. 
> 
> You will need a pi, case, and power supply. If you are concerned about
> electric use and heat, you might want a pi 3B.  If you want a faster USB
> hub and want the latest get a 4.  Read through the Pi core player
> documentation, it is not difficult but you do need atttention to syntax
> details. 
> 
> I had put off the transition to the pi, but wish I did it sooner as I am
> very happy with the little box that take up little space, makes no
> sound, and uses a lot less electricity than running a larger computer. 
> 
> Good luck.

my rPi4B in flirc case runs cooler than my rPi3B.



*Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio
(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
*Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000
*The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS &
Squeezelite) 
*Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin,
or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
*Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes,
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] C-3PO plugin, a trnscoding helper.

2021-06-15 Thread BiBer3


Almost forgot one more thing:

Most DFF files play OK (besides not being at 48kHz), but some are not,
player just jumps through album tracks to the end of album. The same
tracks steam OK through picorePlayer to my other USB DAC. Might be again
DSDPlayer issue, assuming it takes priority to c-3PO.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] C-3PO plugin, a trnscoding helper.

2021-06-15 Thread BiBer3


Hi,

may be somebody here will be so nice to help me to solve some of my
transcoding troubles with c-3po.

What I am trying to accomplish is to resample everything to 48kHz for
particular player in my setup. The player in question is the old
Squeezebox v3. The reason for this resampling is that i want to drive my
miniDSP DDRC-24 (DRC Dirac / DAC box) at 48kHz because it's internal
ASRC is not very good, so it is recommended to run it at its internal
sampling rate of 48kHz. (Details:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/measurements-of-minidsp-2x4hd.2459/page-2).

I already had DSDPlayer setup and working before adding c-3po, as I do
have some DSD64 as DSF and DFF files.

So setup c-3po, activated it only for the squeezebox driving miniDSP,
configured it as shown in attached screen shots and it seems to work,
but with a couple of issues.

349933499434995

1. No scrolling possible when playing FLAC. When I try to scroll the
player jumps to next track. Otherwise the output is at 48kHz, as i want
it

2. DSD is converted down to 44,1kHz, not 48kHz, but scrolling works. Is
this because DSD is routed through DSD Player and not c-3PO? And if this
is the case, can I disable DSDPlayer just for this one squeezebox (I
know, might be a wrong thread to ask)?

Any help is greatly appreciated

Cheers
Daniel


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins not updating

2021-06-15 Thread P Nelson


leinster-lad wrote: 
> 
> 
> The NAS is a bit power hungry to have on all the time, so would be
> looking at having my files on a USB HDD plugged into the Pi.
> Can that HDD be accessed via a windows PC on the same network ? ( to add
> new music )
> 
> Any clues on what I would need ?  
> .

I use a Pi to run LMS with an attached hard drive. The PCp player
includes Samba which will allow window 10 system to connect to the pi. 
I also use my windows system to add music and also use the hard drive
attached to the pi as a on-site backup. 

I am not a Linux expert and I was able to set it up and use it. 

You will need a pi, case, and power supply. If you are concerned about
electric use and heat, you might want a pi 3B.  If you want a faster USB
hub and want the latest get a 4.  Read through the Pi core player
documentation, it is not difficult but you do need atttention to syntax
details. 

I had put off the transition to the pi, but wish I did it sooner as I am
very happy with the little box that take up little space, makes no
sound, and uses a lot less electricity than running a larger computer. 

Good luck.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread slartibartfast


leinster-lad wrote: 
> okay, 
> on a boom
> 
> alarm 1 set for 7:49
> 
> alarm 2 set for 7:51
> 
> global alarm timeout of 1 minute
> 
> alarm 1 triggered at 7:49 and sounded for 1 minute
> 
> then 1 minute of silence
> 
> then, at 7:51 the second alarm sounded  and lasted for 1 minute.
> 
> 
> so the "alarm time out" setting is a global setting for each individual
> alarm.
> 
> 
> second test..
> 
> alarm 1 set for 7:56 
> 
> alarm 2 set for 7:58
> 
> global alarm timeout of 10 minutes
> 
> result
> alarm one triggered at 7:56 and played for 2 minutes
> 
> alarm two triggered at 7:58 cancelling out alarm #1
> 
> alarm two played for 10 minutes until 8:08
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The real test ( after tonights server shut down and tomorrow morning
> restart )  will be tomorrow morning.
> I'll post results !So in your second test alarm 2 played for 10 minutes? That 
> contradicts
your previous tests when the second alarm cancelled the first alarm but
didn't play.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread leinster-lad


okay, 
on a boom

alarm 1 set for 7:49

alarm 2 set for 7:51

global alarm timeout of 1 minute

alarm 1 triggered at 7:49 and sounded for 1 minute

then 1 minute of silence

then, at 7:51 the second alarm sounded  and lasted for 1 minute.


so the "alarm time out" setting is a global setting for each individual
alarm.


second test..

alarm 1 set for 7:56 

alarm 2 set for 7:58

global alarm timeout of 10 minutes

result
alarm one triggered at 7:56 and played for 2 minutes

alarm two triggered at 7:58 cancelling out alarm #1

alarm two played for 10 minutes until 8:08




The real test ( after tonights server shut down and tomorrow morning
restart )  will be tomorrow morning.
I'll post results !



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread slartibartfast


leinster-lad wrote: 
> ? my little experiment showed that the second alarm cancelled out the
> first, the third cancelled the second etc.
> 
> I'll try a really short time out and see if it affects all alarms
> equally ?In your first post you said the timeout was 20 mins and the gap 
> between
alarms was 30 mins. In that case they should both work. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread leinster-lad


slartibartfast wrote: 
> The time out is for each separate alarm. If you increase the time out
> your second alarm will definitely not work. If you want a long time out
> your best option is to use your three alarms so the third one works
> after the second one pauses.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

? my little experiment showed that the second alarm cancelled out the
first, the third cancelled the second etc.

I'll try a really short time out and see if it affects all alarms
equally ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.1.1 and Max2Play / Napster-Problem

2021-06-15 Thread justwords


I have not yet managed to get access to the terminal, but I will try.



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Squeeze Play (Android). Amazon Echo, 3 x Echo Dot (sadly not connected
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread slartibartfast


Having an optional separate timeout for each alarm is not a bad idea.
You could then use it to program a whole day of listening. Is that
possible @mherger ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread slartibartfast


leinster-lad wrote: 
> I was wondering if the "alarm time out" was for each individuat alarm or
> the total of all alarms.
> 
> If it is for the total, yes, I will need to increase the timeout.
> 
> Thanks !The time out is for each separate alarm. If you increase the time out
your second alarm will definitely not work. If you want a long time out
your best option is to use your three alarms so the third one works
after the second one pauses.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread leinster-lad


slartibartfast wrote: 
> What is the alarm timeout set to now? If you leave it at 40 minutes your
> second alarm will not work.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I was wondering if the "alarm time out" was for each individuat alarm or
the total of all alarms.

If it is for the total, yes, I will need to increase the timeout.

Thanks !



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread slartibartfast


leinster-lad wrote: 
> Thanks for getting back so quick.
> TBH that detail got lost in the noise. lots going on here ATM.
> 
> Trying again
> 
> I just set 3 alarms
> barn fire , soma FM, Blue Henry for 4:55 , 4:57 and 4:58
> Alarm time out set to 40 minutes.
> Each alarm started at allocated time and kicked the previous alarm
> 
> Looks like it is working correct.
> 
> So i'll set the alarms for 6:30 and 7:00 tomorrow mornign and see what
> happens
> 
> Now, the only proviso is my server shuts down at 11pm and starts up at
> 6am.
> 
> Not sure if this is causing the issue and once it gets up and running,
> the alarms behave themselves ?What is the alarm timeout set to now? If you 
> leave it at 40 minutes your
second alarm will not work.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread leinster-lad


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I just tried setting two alarms on my Touch with a timeout of 5
> minutes.
> 1 7.20 Rain and thunder
> 2 7.30 Radio 2
> Both alarms worked fine. Maybe a Boom is different.
> Then I set the timeout to 60 minutes and set the same two alarms to
> 1 7.42
> 2 7.45
> This time when the second alarm fired it was paused.
> So if the first alarm times out before the second alarm fires it works.
> If the second alarm fires while the first alarm is still active then it
> acts like I remembered and doesn't work. 
> Are you absolutely sure that the first alarm had stopped before the
> second alarm fired?
> Your test case with 5 minutes between alarms definitely wouldn't work if
> the timeout was 20 minutes but the third alarm would fire.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Thanks for getting back so quick.
TBH that detail got lost in the noise. lots going on here ATM.

Trying again

I just set 3 alarms
barn fire , soma FM, Blue Henry for 4:55 , 4:57 and 4:58
Alarm time out set to 40 minutes.
Each alarm started at allocated time and kicked the previous alarm

Looks like it is working correct.

So i'll set the alarms for 6:30 and 7:00 tomorrow mornign and see what
happens

Now, the only proviso is my server shuts down at 11pm and starts up at
6am.

Not sure if this is causing the issue and once it gets up and running,
the alarms behave themselves ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Tidal integration not loading tracks

2021-06-15 Thread Jonny Quest


mherger wrote: 
> > Next time please check (or post here) your server.log file. There
> might 
> be relevant information in there.

Thanks for the reply - yes, I'll do that next time it happens.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins not updating

2021-06-15 Thread bpa


An alternative to a Pi based solution could be a CORE32 from
Polyvection. It is probably dearer than a Pi based solution but the aim
is to be easier to setup but may have limitations to achieve that .

First units have not been delivered (shipping promised about now - 3rd
week of June) so you'll have to wait for real user opinions.

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?114103-CORE32-Energy-Efficient-LMS-Music-Server



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins not updating

2021-06-15 Thread Paul Webster


The minimum that you need is a Raspberry Pi (probably a 4 or a 3) and a
power supply.

See
https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/install_lms/
and
https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/add_usb_hdd/



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins not updating

2021-06-15 Thread Michael Herger

It just looked too hard.


give picoreplayer.org a try - it's linux optimized to run Squeezelite 
and/or LMS on a Pi.



The NAS is a bit power hungry to have on all the time, so would be
looking at having my files on a USB HDD plugged into the Pi.
Can that HDD be accessed via a windows PC on the same network ? ( to add
new music )


Yes, this can be set up.


Any clues on what I would need ?


I'd recommend a Pi4 with 2GB of RAM, and a good case. I'm using the 
popular Flirc case, as it's cooking the CPU well.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Sequential alarms not working

2021-06-15 Thread slartibartfast


leinster-lad wrote: 
> I had the two alarms separated by some 5 minutes
> 
> looks like if I set a third alarm, that one triggers as expected.I just tried 
> setting two alarms on my Touch with a timeout of 5 minutes.
1 7.20 Rain and thunder
2 7.30 Radio 2
Both alarms worked fine. Maybe a Boom is different.
Then I set the timeout to 60 minutes and set the same two alarms to
1 7.42
2 7.45
This time when the second alarm fired it was paused.
So if the first alarm times out before the second alarm fires it works.
If the second alarm fires while the first alarm is still active then it
acts like I remembered and doesn't work. 
Are you absolutely sure that the first alarm had stopped before the
second alarm fired?
Your test case with 5 minutes between alarms definitely wouldn't work if
the timeout was 20 minutes but the third alarm would fire.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins not updating

2021-06-15 Thread leinster-lad


mherger wrote: 
> > [21-06-15 11:51:27.0024]
> Slim::Plugin::Extensions::Plugin::_noResponse
> > (395) error fetching http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml
> -
> > Redirection limit exceeded
> 
> I think your LMS has reached the end of its usefulness, I'm sorry to 
> say. The ReadyNAS' Perl is pretty ancient (5.10, I think), and I 
> strongly suggest you get a Raspberry Pi to run LMS on. You can still use
> 
> the NAS to store the music files. You'd be surprised how much better 
> this will run.

I am feeling that you are right.
I started to look at the Raspberry Pi but got quickly confused by the
overwhelming varieties/accessories/daughterboards/ etc etc.

It just looked too hard.

I will go down that rabbit hole again and see what I find.

The NAS is a bit power hungry to have on all the time, so would be
looking at having my files on a USB HDD plugged into the Pi.
Can that HDD be accessed via a windows PC on the same network ? ( to add
new music )

Any clues on what I would need ?  
Just a basic stand alone unit that can run LMS ( mostly mp3 & FLAC
files, some at high rez )  
I run gigabit LAN to ASUS modem/router.  
Touch is LAN ,  2 booms and 2 classics are wifi.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Plugins not updating

2021-06-15 Thread Michael Herger

[21-06-15 11:51:27.0024] Slim::Plugin::Extensions::Plugin::_noResponse
(395) error fetching http://repos.squeezecommunity.org/extensions.xml -
Redirection limit exceeded


I think your LMS has reached the end of its usefulness, I'm sorry to 
say. The ReadyNAS' Perl is pretty ancient (5.10, I think), and I 
strongly suggest you get a Raspberry Pi to run LMS on. You can still use 
the NAS to store the music files. You'd be surprised how much better 
this will run.

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