Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS 8.2 for PPC Synology (DS 213+)
Hi Michael Synology stopped supporting LMS. :-( As far as I know, the way to go forward is to use a Docker container with LMS, but AFAIK this is only supported on Intel CPU's. Your DS213+ has a Freescale P1022 CPU and AFAIK a Docker LMS solution is not supported for this machine (I could be wrong). How about buying a Raspberry Pi and installing LMS on it? ... You can have it point to your music collection on the DS213+ NAS. One way is to install piCorePlayer and disable the 'player' part, please see : https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/install_lms/ Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116157 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Standing Ovation
+1 I've been a user for 15 years. /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115995 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] FLAC 1.3.4 Released
Hi mcduman - the changelog says : This release mostly fixes (security related) bugs. /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116022 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] C-3PO plugin, a trnscoding helper.
Hi, Today I decided to enable the C-3PO transcoder. The plan is to have my (original) Squeezebox Touch (with AKM 4420 DAC) receive an upsampled signal. I'd like to try the 'intermediate' filter. The problem is that when I play music, only white noise comes out. I see it was discussed a few pages back: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105309-C-3PO-plugin-a-trnscoding-helper/page21 In LMS Settings, second page = 'Player' - I can choose my Squeezebox Touch and then the C-3PO Transcoding Helper page. Here I read 'Player is not squeezelite' ... of course, this is not a piCorePlayer. Right now it's playing, because I have specified 44.1 kHz and 16 bit only, but that means I have no upsampling of the CD source material. The Touch-DAC supports up to 24 bit and 96kHz (AFAIK). I think I have EDO installed on the Touch, but AFAIK that's for digital output only. Is there anywhere I can read what settings should work with the Touch, and provide the desired upsampling (and ca. 3 dB attenuation to allow for intersample overs) ? Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105309 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] GUI for DSP in SOX?
Hi Zombie I googled "GUI for SoX" for you and this came up: http://sox.sourceforge.net/Docs/FAQ /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113964 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Request for Synology to upgrade LMS package to version (8.x)
jotap_66 wrote: > what will be a new good hardware substitute for running LMS? > Picoreplayer? I am running the last LMS provided by pinkdot on my Synology. Once I need a newer version, I'll either have to dig into installing LMS in a docker container on the NAS, or alternatively as you propose, run a piCorePlayer with LMS on a Raspberry Pi - the music files can stay on the NAS. /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113893 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New Raspberry PI OS Desktop
cfuttrup wrote: > Hi Ronnie, I think that it could be cool to see this working in > piCorePlayer. Maybe the module is available upstream (TinyCore Linux, > piCore Linux) and maybe it's an idea for piCorePlayer 7 ... > > /Claus Hi Ronnie et al. - I think Paul gave us a nice answer, but on another thought - I don't think that the advanced stream from multiple sources of audio (simultaneously) is desirable in an audio streamer product like piCorePlayer, because you will then experience various sounds from various sources (e.g. system 'ding' sounds) occurring in your audio stream ... not nice when listening to your favorite music. /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113372 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New Raspberry PI OS Desktop
Man in a van wrote: > Thanks for the info Paul > > Will PulseAudio help with the Bluetooth integration (I'm guessing maybe > pCP8 :)) > > ronnie Hi Ronnie, I think that it could be cool to see this working in piCorePlayer. Maybe the module is available upstream (TinyCore Linux, piCore Linux) and maybe it's an idea for piCorePlayer 7 ... /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113372 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 8.0.0 released!
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
Thank you to all for the quality feedback. Thank you Greg for reminding me that Squeezelite can be disabled. I haven't thought about that. Presumably then the 'player' doesn't exist and doesn't show up in the list of players - which is what I want. About the UPS, some of us might feel we can just go in and fix a problem, if it shows up, but I much prefer no problems at all, hence the UPS. My feel for the USB based power supply to RPis is that they're a bit sensitive to connection failure. The trick is to shut down LMS nicely, but again without experience I am just assuming this is easily implemented with a script - most UPS's communicate over the I2C port. It will require a small (tiny) hack. Technically one wouldn't need a shutdown button, since pulling the plug will trigger the UPS to execute a soft shutdown... but if the UPS comes with a button, I'd accept and drill a hole in the case for it. I agree one could just keep the music collection on a NAS, but I also like the idea that with the server (with storage) and the player, one can bring these two devices to other places (family and friends, vacation homes, Hi-Fi show rooms). Just plug the devices in and connect over a simple network (a switch should do). I like the idea of two USB-pens and one of them as failover ... I guess this is the only part, which isn't straightforward in the current piCorePlayer-based server. Is there any way to manage your music collection on piCore'Server' ... ? ... I'm thinking about something user friendly, maybe GUI based? Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] A server for us
With Synology officially discarding support, I wonder what happens when my DiskStation needs replacement? Could a Raspberry Pi server (not player) loaded with LMS be designed and built? Would it be posible to make something Tiny Core / piCore based, but not a player, maybe name it piCoreServer? Since LMS requires a nice shutdown, a hardware 'requirement' (or at least strong recommendation) could be to attach a UPS with a small battery. The UPS must support 'soft' shutdown, such that the LMS database survives. Something with just one minute of battery operation is required. I like PiJuice a lot, but is this product on the way out of the market? PiJuice is maybe a bit expensive, and replaced by lower-cost alternatives? Let me know if you have any information about this. The idea of a product that doesn't require any battery service, e.g. with supercaps, sounds attractive to me. Other than that, this LMS server solution requires some sort of storage support, either with a good size USB SSD - is it available in a pen format? Reliability is king. Can we support two disks (a primary and a backup w. failover that is normally inactive during reading and therefore with less wear)? If yes, maybe lower cost flash drives are OK. On the server side, it should be easy to administrate your music collection and rescan. Preferably easy to upload music, maybe easy to delete certain music, if unwanted, etc. Anything else server-side, which is desirable? Maintenance options? Easy software updates? We don't need an audio card, since this is a server that I'll stove away. Is any sort of display and/or loudspeaker (for acoustic information) required or desired? /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112214 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Lms ram
Hi there Today after uptime = 1 day and 3 hours, and streaming 8 hours of Tidal, the RAM consumption is at 188 MB. It's going up, but not critical (yet). I have a suspicion that Tidal is causing this. At the previous post I had run the NAS since before Christmas (the 23rd to be exact) and through this period of time, as we know, there were issues with Tidal. It's just a suspicion on my part, nothing solid. Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111629 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Lms ram
I turned off the NAS last night and restarted it 3 hours ago, to listen to music. Resource monitor says LMS uses 165 MB, so we're down from 1.1 GB. Other consumption of RAM looks unchanged. 165 MB is probably normal. I'm still curious to understand ... Library statistics: Total Images: 803 Total Videos: 1 Total Tracks: 8,548 Total Albums: 697 Total Artists: 926 Total Genres: 102 Total Playing Time: 556:30:59 Settings/Advanced/Performance Database Memory Config: High (recommended for machines with 1+ GB RAM) BTW, could it be the TIDAL plugin which requires some memory? Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111629 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Lms ram
Hi there, Today I logged in and could see my Synology NAS is using a lot of RAM (86%). Resource Monitor shows that LMS 7.9.2 is using 1.1 GB (next contender was using 40 MB, so LMS is the only real user). The machine uptime is 47 days. Is there any reason why LMS would require so much RAM? ... Does LMS manage its RAM use and dump whatever is necessary to prevent a crash? Should I occasionally restart LMS? Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111629 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Freedb.org will stop on March 31, 2020
I think it's normal for us that use LMS to rip CD's and I wonder, if anybody is aware of an alternative to freedb.org ? /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111410 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] C-3PO plugin, a trnscoding helper.
cpd73 wrote: > Is there a backup of this plugin somewhere? The server > (http://www.marcoc1712.it) seems to be down at the moment. Still down. Backup maybe on GitHub? https://github.com/marcoc1712/C-3PO /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105309 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS on Raspberry Pi4
acanning wrote: > I settled on this cheapo case. > > 27939 > > Which is availible 'here' > (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32962800319.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.66147dd3MCC4rT_pvid=df0b32f6-50ad-4c05-a5cc-90b1aaf7cfd8_expid=df0b32f6-50ad-4c05-a5cc-90b1aaf7cfd8-1=1fba5b47-262d-483e-89ba-e23a3711d987_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_52http://) > Hi Ashley Thanks for pointing out this option. With the RPi4, handling heat radiation is definitely a priority. When I followed your link I found that this is designed for the RPi3 ... can you tell more about it and how it fits the new RPi4? ... and could you maybe add a couple of photos where we can see the exact fit? I'd like to point out (repeat) the one that sfraser mentioned from FLIRC. This one is explicitly designed for the RPi4. https://flirc.tv/more/raspberry-pi-4-case /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110838 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] C-3PO plugin, a trnscoding helper.
marcoc1712 wrote: > > > In my opiinion 'extreme' is too extreme. A filter starting at 99.7 and > ending at 100% is too steep. Other than this, 3.05db are too little, I > use 6db instead and -h option. > > I normally use Linear phase, but some recording sounds better with > Intermediate or even Minimal, I agree, so 45% could make some > difefrence. > > What I could really not understand in Archimago approach is that is > looking at this littte things when denying the possibility of effects > that produces much more difference in sound, just becouse he could not > 'measure ' them, as the difference in doing conversion/resampling server > side, for instance. I'd like to chime in here - as I agree with Marco a lot. In particular that the Extremus filter is pushing it quite a lot. How about a compromise? Right now I'm using Squeezelite (libsox) with the following upsampling parameter string: (v::3.5:28:95:100:45) Cheers, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105309 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] C-3PO plugin, a trnscoding helper.
marcoc1712 wrote: > SOX is considered one of the best tool for doing that. Internally all > the effect chain is working at 64 bit depth so the 'rounding error' is > much, much lower than piping different steps at 16 or even 32 bit, so I > really advise NOT to pipe a digital volume control AFTER the C-3PO work, > BUT use the provided one instead (that's why *, also). I think this answers my questions - so using C-3PO for upsampling on the server side is recommended if/when the alternatives have a lower than 64-bit data path. If the SoX implementation in piCorePlayer is also running 64 bit, then they should be equally good. I'm running piCorePlayer on a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+, which has a 64 bit ARM processor ... but I'm not sure if this also means that the SoX library uses 64 bit. Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105309 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] C-3PO plugin, a trnscoding helper.
fsger wrote: > Hi Marco, > > Thanks for the great plug-in. It is easy to use and really improves the > sound quality compared to upsampling on my RPI3B+ in picoreplayer. As > you have noted, this partly because the flac is converted to cpm on the > server (a Synology DS218). I'm surprised there should be a difference, since both implementations use SOX, as far as I understand. Anyone care to explain the differences here? About your question on bit depth. The advantage of adding bits is that when you use digital (e.g. software) volume control, then the added bits are used to reduce rounding errors. Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105309 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Issue with international characters in filenames
Could it be a bad block on the harddrive? /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110037 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Issue with international characters in filenames
Hi Paul I have no experience, but in this thread, there's a response from deschman: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103330-Jivelite-for-piCorePlayer/page90 If it works, can you report back here? Cheers, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110037 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Volume control
Hi pippin Many thanks for this info, and the tip to read up about Squeezelite. Is this documentation in the wiki: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezelite ?? ... or did you mean to look elsewhere? Meanwhile, I found that bit-perfect volume control requires that you add some bits ... so that if f.eks. Squeezelite uses 32 bit representation, it should be able to do bit-perfect volume control, as explained here: http://www.esstech.com/files/3014/4095/4308/digital-vs-analog-volume-control.pdf Cheers, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109866 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Volume control
Is there anyone who knows the details about how the LMS volume control works? In particular if there's larger than zero dB gain in it? cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109866 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Volume control
Hi Greg - The ApplePi is currently sitting in customs (6 days now). Will let you know how it goes. I am also heading in the direction convenience with software volume control, but there's no need for multiple controls to each contribute with signal errors, so I guess I'll think a bit harder ... :-) Hi DJanGo - I don't try to misunderstand the terms, and don't mean to be talking audiophoolishly, but my sense is that the digital signal is treated as such (in digital bits and bytes). There is a major difference between this, and then running some floating point calculations (with rounding errors). Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109866 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Volume control
Hi there I've purchased a RaspberryPi with the 7 inch Touch Display and am planning to install a DAC board, etc. to end up with a Squeezebox Touch replacement. When I installed piCorePlayer on the RPi I was asked about output and I could see that ALSA defaults to + 3-4 dB (or something like that) and that I'd have to choose 96% to get 0 dB out, which I did. Suddenly I realize there's at least 4 different ways to control the volume, and I'm wondering - in which way does the LMS control it? Is it a "bit-perfect" reduction, or is it scaling in percent (not digital-friendly) ... and is dithering used, or not? Does LMS also "boost" output 3-4 dB at 100% ?? Thanks for any response that can make me a bit wiser as to what's going on. Pointers to previous discussions is definitely OK (I did a search both here and with Google, without finding answers). P.S. I purchased the ApplePi DAC + Volume-Clocker, and the volume part controls the volume in a "bit-perfect" way, which presumably means it of course reduces output bits when you turn down the volume, but there's no quantization noise, etc. I find that I can control volume in LMS, as well as in piCorePlayer with the ALSA mixer, and now with the digital Volume-Clocker + finally I can also use the (analog) volume control on my integrated amplifier. Best regards, Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109866 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
