Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
I'm a little late to the party in this somewhat old thread, but because it has been so quiet for a while, hope this won't be considered a hijack attempt. Here's another laugh: I'm still running LMS 4.3.4 on a Netgear ReadyNAS Duo v.2. Please wait a minute while I go blow the cobwebs off it . . . Ahm... there has never been a v4.3.4. You must be talking about the NAS firmware rather than LMS. > Is there something wrong with my thinking? Is there a reason I should > update LMS on the NAS to whatever is the latest version it can handle? Depends on what version you're running and whether you'd like to have whatever changed since. But as we don't know your version that's hard to tell. I certainly like 7.9's customized browse modes, Don't Stop The Music, the occasional D'n'D to the browser window to pre-listen tracks, fulltext search, improved integration with my plugins, ... :-) -- Michael ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Please Me Squeeze Me wrote: > > > Oh, last, a shout-out to kidstypike for the nice photo of the Doppler > radar golf ball. Reminds me of the one I hiked past near Keld. And I've > been up on Kidsty, too! > > Cheers to all. Ha-ha, yes, that's me approaching the golf ball on the summit of Great Dun Fell - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Dun_Fell And of course Kidsty Pike - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidsty_Pike :o *Study/Server - LMS 7.9.2 -* Pi3B+/pCP 3.5.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite, 25K library and playlists on WDMyCloud, LMS cache on a USB stick (formatted ntfs). *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 3.5.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3B/pCP 3.5.0 > HiFiBerry AMP+/retro radio *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 3.5.0 > Edifier R980T *In car* - RPi3B/pCP in AP mode > HiFiBerry DAC+ > car's audio (files on a 2TB USB drive) *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 1xBoom kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
I'm a little late to the party in this somewhat old thread, but because it has been so quiet for a while, hope this won't be considered a hijack attempt. Here's another laugh: I'm still running LMS 4.3.4 on a Netgear ReadyNAS Duo v.2. Please wait a minute while I go blow the cobwebs off it . . . My thinking -- which happens every time I decline the prompt to update all the way to 4.3.8, laugh again -- is, if it ain't broke, why fix it? The only thing I'm using the NAS for is to store and play my extensive music library over my AV system, using a SBT, or outdoors using computer speakers plugged into a Amazon Fire with angryGoat's SB Player app installed. It all works flawlessly. Some day when the NAS or SBT finally dies (like my Duet did, a blessing, considering how finicky it was to keep it connected) THEN I'll figure out how to set up one of these Raspberry Pi devices. Is there something wrong with my thinking? Is there a reason I should update LMS on the NAS to whatever is the latest version it can handle? Oh, last, a shout-out to kidstypike for the nice photo of the Doppler radar golf ball. Reminds me of the one I hiked past near Keld. And I've been up on Kidsty, too! Cheers to all. Please Me Squeeze Me's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49037 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
losinj wrote: > Okay, wow, thanks Robert -et al-. > > Just one, well, two more queries at present. I rely heavily on the > plugins mentioned in my initial post, for indexing on custom tags in my > music collection. Should the Pi/PCP be fully capable in this respect? > (Sounds like it should be, given the speed at which it scans your > tracks, Robert.) After the initial scan on my QNAP TS-112P, the "Custom > Scan" plugin can then take several minutes more to run. > > What does Max2Play bring to the party? Is it a horses-for-courses > thing, or is it an alternative to piCorePlayer which some people > prefer? > > Col. I don't use the plugins you list in your original post, but I've not had any problems with those I do use (the various BBC iPlayer plugins, Spotty, mostly). Remember, you could easily turn off the old LMS running on the QNAP rather than uninstall it. That way you could easily go back to it if something isn't working on the Pi. I prefer piCorePlayer because it runs in RAM - power can be cut without damage to the SD card. The Max2Play guys post in these forums, so maybe they'll be along shortly. AFAIK Max2Play is more of a full-fledged linux distro for the Pi, useful if you want to do other things as well as run LMS. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Okay, wow, thanks Robert -et al-. Just one, well, two more queries at present. I rely heavily on the plugins mentioned in my initial post, for indexing on custom tags in my music collection. Should the Pi/PCP be fully capable in this respect? (Sounds like it should be, given the speed at which it scans your tracks, Robert.) After the initial scan on my QNAP TS-112P, the "Custom Scan" plugin can then take several minutes more to run. What does Max2Play bring to the party? Is it a horses-for-courses thing, or is it an alternative to piCorePlayer which some people prefer? Col. losinj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Sorry, mist that one. Thnx *SqueezeBoxes:* 2x SB2 (Living room and study), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Bedroom) *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, D-Link Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
edwin2006 wrote: > Is that a pcp with touchscreen? Which enclosure did you use? Yes, as per top line of my signature. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01M0AT5O5/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8=1 23871 +---+ |Filename: screen.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23871| +---+ *Study/Server - LMS 7.9.1 - *Raspberry Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22/jivelite, 25K library on WDMyCloud, cache and playlists on a USB stick (formatted ntfs). *Lounge* - RPi 2/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Boom *Garage* - Radio *In car* - LMS 7.9.1 > RPi3/Max2Play/Access Point plugin > HiFiBerry DAC+ > car's hifi (files on a 2TB portable USB drive) *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Is that a pcp with touchscreen? Which enclosure did you use? *SqueezeBoxes:* 2x SB2 (Living room and study), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Bedroom) *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, D-Link Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Grumpy Bob Nicely put together post. I'd just like to add that no Linux skills *whatsoever* are needed, you can even add a RPi touch screen with just a couple of clicks . . . that's it below next to the frog, WDMyCloud with music files below. :D 23868 +---+ |Filename: picoreplayer and frog.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23868| +---+ *Study/Server - LMS 7.9.1 - *Raspberry Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22/jivelite, 25K library on WDMyCloud, cache and playlists on a USB stick (formatted ntfs). *Lounge* - RPi 2/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Boom *Garage* - Radio *In car* - LMS 7.9.1 > RPi3/Max2Play/Access Point plugin > HiFiBerry DAC+ > car's hifi (files on a 2TB portable USB drive) *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3 kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
losinj wrote: > Thanks, all. > > I had a feeling I read somewhere before, that my little NAS is past it > for running later LMS versions :(. > > Hurray, another learning curve! Looks like 'this thread' > (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107656-Spotify-help-Raspberry-Pi-the-answer) > (haven't scanned it all yet) would come in handy for Pi set-up ...and > maybe for how to pick up the x:\Multimedia music folder on my QNAP ? (I > don't know any Linux.) > > Are there any opinions on the Pi 3's lifetime in terms of hardware > capability for running -future -LMS versions? > > Col. In terms of future hardware capability, I couldn't say. But it's not a massive outlay! Essentially the steps to setting up the Pi would be: - download piCorePlayer and burn the image to an SD card - stick the SD card into the Pi - connect the Pi via ethernet cable to your router (your NAS should also be connected via cable) - boot the Pi by powering it up - open the piCorePlayer web interface (I look for it's address using the connected devices list on my router's admin page) - it's worth looking through this before going further, particularly noting the four different views accessed by tabs at the bottom of the screen: Basic, Normal, Advanced, Beta You do most of the rest of the tweaking via the web interface - by clicking buttons on the web interface - expand the filesystem - install additional filesystems - install LMS - mount your NAS's music folder (this bit can be the most confusing - I can send you the settings I use for my QNAP) - configure LMS through its LMS web interface My Pi3 takes about 6 minutes to scan through a bit over 27,000 tracks There is some help available at http://picoreplayer.sourceforge.net/main_howto.shtml plus the extensive piCorePlayer threads in the Linux/Unix forum here. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Thanks, all. I had a feeling I read somewhere before, that my little NAS is past it for running later LMS versions :(. Hurray, another learning curve! Looks like 'this thread' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107656-Spotify-help-Raspberry-Pi-the-answer) (haven't scanned it all yet) would come in handy for Pi set-up ...and maybe for how to pick up the x:\Multimedia music folder on my QNAP ? (I don't know any Linux.) Are there any opinions on the Pi 3's lifetime in terms of hardware capability for running -future -LMS versions? Col. losinj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Id third (or fourth) the LMS on Pi with files on QNAP route. Your QNAP is too old to upgrade beyond 7.7.x without a lot of mucking about and frankly the upgrade you were originally talking about will gain you diddly squat. If the QNAP works ok as a file server then Id keep it doing that and run LMS on something else as discussed. I stopped using LMS and SSOTS on my QNAP perhaps 5 years ago because it was too much of a pain to upgrade. *Pi3 with piCoreplayer music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets/Jogglers *Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s *Office* - Pi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
losinj wrote: > Hmm... thanks, both. Seems like you make a good case for the Pi. Is it > a physically neat and tidy solution? > > I'd first have to overcome a couple of mental hurdles, one being that > when I got my NAS (with LMS pre-installed) from Ripcaster, I recall > spending many hours getting to grips with (but never fully > understanding!) several plugins needed to create custom menus for my > classical music library. This was back in the days when I felt more > technologically inclined, and now it would be quite daunting if I had to > figure out how I did it all, and set up a Pi effectively from scratch. > > Robert, thanks for the offer of set-up assistance - I'll bear you in > mind. > > Another hurdle is that the 1TB NAS is a relatively "green" (low-power, > low-noise, compact, one-box) solution for LMS and my music files (... > but I wish the HDD would spin down when idle!) The thought of having to > add, and power, a further box just for a later version of LMS is > somewhat irksome. > > To date I've had no replies in the QNAP forum, so probably for now I > will have a go at updating to 7.7.5 or 6 and see what transpires. > > I was using Spotify, until support recently got pulled, and it was 320k. > TIDAL seem it bit coy about their bit rates: in the desktop app, my > streaming options are either "Standard" or "High" (I have High > selected). I believe the Touch automatically plays the best available > stream, but with an apparent lack of additional info, and given that all > the discussions I've read were about lossless, I was just hoping it > would be equivalent to Spotify. *I was also wondering if the fact that > my version of LMS is old meant the bit rate may not be reported > correctly.* > > Don't get me wrong - my local library is probably 99% CDs ripped to > FLAC, and this is what I prefer to listen to. As I'm not streaming very > often I can't justify paying £19.99/month for lossless. If I like an > album on TIDAL that much, I will buy the CD and rip it. (I know they've > brought out "Master", but there isn't the breadth of material yet, and > it assumes you've got something which can play MQA.) My LMS server is a model 3 Raspberry Pi housed in a small unobtrusive black case, which sits out of the way (actually on top of the NAS), with a power cable, and an ethernet cable connecting it to the router. I don't think it draws much power, and I leave it running 24:7. The NAS and the Pi both sit in a cubby hole in an upstairs room. I'm running LMS 7.9.1, and I've installed the Spotty plugin for Spotify. Like you, I predominantly listen to flac rips from CD, but I do check things out on Spotify before purchase. (But you do need a Premium account). It does occur to me that if your current LMS running on the NAS still works well, you might be better to keep that in reserve so you can go back to it if you don't like the Raspberry Pi method. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Hmm... thanks, both. Seems like you make a good case for the Pi. Is it a physically neat and tidy solution? I'd first have to overcome a couple of mental hurdles, one being that when I got my NAS (with LMS pre-installed) from Ripcaster, I recall spending many hours getting to grips with (but never fully understanding!) several plugins needed to create custom menus for my classical music library. This was back in the days when I felt more technologically inclined, and now it would be quite daunting if I had to figure out how I did it all, and set up a Pi effectively from scratch. Robert, thanks for the offer of set-up assistance - I'll bear you in mind. Another hurdle is that the 1TB NAS is a relatively "green" (low-power, low-noise, compact, one-box) solution for LMS and my music files (... but I wish the HDD would spin down when idle!) The thought of having to add, and power, a further box just for a later version of LMS is somewhat irksome. To date I've had no replies in the QNAP forum, so probably for now I will have a go at updating to 7.7.5 or 6 and see what transpires. philippe_44 wrote: > Re Tidal, I don't have it any more, so I can't say, but if they claim > 256 CBR (Constant Bit Rate), then it's 256, why would you expect it to > be 320?I was using Spotify, until support recently got pulled, and it was > 320k. TIDAL seem it bit coy about their bit rates: in the desktop app, my streaming options are either "Standard" or "High" (I have High selected). I believe the Touch automatically plays the best available stream, but with an apparent lack of additional info, and given that all the discussions I've read were about lossless, I was just hoping it would be equivalent to Spotify. Don't get me wrong - my local library is probably 99% CDs ripped to FLAC, and this is what I prefer to listen to. As I'm not streaming very often I can't justify paying £19.99/month for lossless. If I like an album on TIDAL that much, I will buy the CD and rip it. (I know they've brought out "Master", but there isn't the breadth of material yet, and it assumes you've got something which can play MQA.) losinj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
losinj wrote: > So the Pi takes over as LMS, and the NAS dumbs down as file server? > > I was worried your Pi was replacing the Touch as a display-less digital > transport. I just love the all-in-one nature of the Touch, and for me > the ability to control it via IR is indispensable. Call me a Luddite, > but it means I don't have to bother about having some other display > device charged up and running, just to listen to music on my home system > (AV receiver + speakers). > > Do you happen to use TIDAL? I'm currently subscribed to the Premium > service, not HIFI. Both the Touch and LMS report all tracks as "256kbps > CBR". Should I actually be getting 320k, or is 256k correct? As Robert says, your Touch remains ... untouched. Symply the LMS server runs on the Pi instead of the NAS and gets its files from the NAS. I don't want to be "dogmatic" about the way a NAS should be used, and mines are used for more than just file server, but these are applications that are made and supported for that NAS. NAS (especially the old or entry level ones) tend to have specific or limited Linux distro and trying to shoehorn somethong like LMS, which IMHO requires a fairly "open/standard" Linux distribution, especially when you want to add plugins, is calling for problems. In that case, either a generic purpose PC (running an OS or your choice) or a cheap but dedicated hardware like a Pi is a better choice. I personally have 2 main LMS server, one running on a PC under and Windows and one on a cubie2 (== Pi). The Windows one used to be the main, but I was using the cubie more and more and last year I did a switchover, the Windows version is used occasionally now. Re Tidal, I don't have it any more, so I can't say, but if they claim 256 CBR (Constant Bit Rate), then it's 256, why would you expect it to be 320? LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
losinj wrote: > So the Pi takes over as LMS, and the NAS dumbs down as file server? > > I was worried your Pi was replacing the Touch as a display-less digital > transport. I just love the all-in-one nature of the Touch, and for me > the ability to control it via IR is indispensable. Call me a Luddite, > but it means I don't have to bother about having some other display > device charged up and running, just to listen to music on my home system > (AV receiver + speakers). > > Do you happen to use TIDAL? I'm currently subscribed to the Premium > service, not HIFI. Both the Touch and LMS report all tracks as "256kbps > CBR". Should I actually be getting 320k, or is 256k correct? I currently use two RaspberryPis. I have a Raspberry Pi version 3 that uses piCorePlayer, but without Squeezelite, so it doesn't function as a player on the system. A second Pi, which is an older model is configured as a player for headphone use (this one used to have a screen, but I removed it recently, so it's headless). I also have two Squeezebox Radios and a Squeezebox Touch on the system. There won't be a functional difference using a Pi as the LMS server instead of the NAS. In fact, I suspect you could stop the LMS on the NAS but leave it installed so you can revert to it if you need to. Another benefit of using the Pi as an LMS server is that it's much easier to update LMS than I ever found it with a QNAP NAS. I'm not a Tidal user, so can't comment there. PM me if you want some advice re setting up a Pi. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
So the Pi takes over as LMS, and the NAS dumbs down as file server? I was worried your Pi was replacing the Touch as a display-less digital transport. I just love the all-in-one nature of the Touch, and for me the ability to control it via IR is indispensable. Call me a Luddite, but it means I don't have to bother about having some other display device charged up and running, just to listen to music on my home system (AV receiver + speakers). Do you happen to use TIDAL? I'm currently subscribed to the Premium service, not HIFI. Both the Touch and LMS report all tracks as "256kbps CBR". Should I actually be getting 320k, or is 256k correct? losinj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
No, I don't think it would stop you using your remote - your remote presumably talks directly with the Touch doesn't it? I can use iOS or Android apps, or the web interface, or I can use the IR controller that came with the Touch. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Robert & philippe, I use my SB Touch with a One-4-All IR remote, and being of a certain mindset I'm trying to resist the need to control my music from a tablet or smartphone (as I don't have one). Does your option mean I would need to change? losinj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Grumpy Bob wrote: > Another option would be to get a Raspberry Pi, install piCorePlayer and > LMS version 7.9.1, and point it at the music files on the NAS. This is > what I've done with my QNAP NAS, and it works very well. > > Robert I can only second that. A Pi is so cheap, connect it through ethernet to your router and then you can forget about it. It's so much easier than all the hassle of trying to shoehorn LMS on a NAS, IMHO LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
losinj wrote: > Having been on good terms with LMS 7.7.2 running on a low-powered NAS - > a QNAP TS-112P, which is ARM-based and (I read somewhere) old by today's > standards, I'd like to ask the forum if there are any reasons I should > NOT install 7.7.5 (LMS keeps prompting me to update). If it's good to > go, should I now use 7.7.6? > > I've also been trying to find out whether my NAS is capable of running > versions of LMS later than 7.7.5/6, but without really knowing if it > would benefit from it. Even if so, I'm a bit put off by reading about > issues with things like plugin updates, requiring manual changes in > Linux, which I'm not familiar with. > > If anything should go wrong with the installation, can I easily revert > to 7.7.2? > > Thanks in advance for any advice. (I'm also going to post this in the > QNAP LMS forum.) > > Current system info: > > NAS firmware is up-to-date, with QTS version 4.3.3.0299 > > SSOTS Release 4.14 Modified for LMS 7.7.2 > > Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 > Platform Architecture: armv5tel-linux > Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tel-linux-thread-multi > Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) > Total Players Recognized: 1 (Squeezebox Touch) > > Primary plugins: > Custom Browse v2.15.676 > Custom Clock Helper v2.11.94 > Custom Scan v2.10.51 > Multi Library (pop and classical local libraries) > Music Information Screen v4.4.11 > Playlist Manager v6.1 > TIDAL v1.2 Another option would be to get a Raspberry Pi, install piCorePlayer and LMS version 7.9.1, and point it at the music files on the NAS. This is what I've done with my QNAP NAS, and it works very well. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9 with files on QNAP TS-239 Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired) *Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive > piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Pre-flight checks before updating to LMS 7.7.5 from 7.7.2 on QNAP TS-112P
Having been on good terms with LMS 7.7.2 running on a low-powered NAS - a QNAP TS-112P, which is ARM-based and (I read somewhere) old by today's standards, I'd like to ask the forum if there are any reasons I should NOT install 7.7.5 (LMS keeps prompting me to update). If it's good to go, should I now use 7.7.6? I've also been trying to find out whether my NAS is capable of running versions of LMS later than 7.7.5/6, but without really knowing if it would benefit from it. Even if so, I'm a bit put off by reading about issues with things like plugin updates, requiring manual changes in Linux, which I'm not familiar with. If anything should go wrong with the installation, can I easily revert to 7.7.2? Thanks in advance for any advice. (I'm also going to post this in the QNAP LMS forum.) Current system info: NAS firmware is up-to-date, with QTS version 4.3.3.0299 SSOTS Release 4.14 Modified for LMS 7.7.2 Operating system: Linux - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv5tel-linux Perl Version: 5.10.0 - armv5tel-linux-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) Total Players Recognized: 1 (Squeezebox Touch) Primary plugins: Custom Browse v2.15.676 Custom Clock Helper v2.11.94 Custom Scan v2.10.51 Multi Library (pop and classical local libraries) Music Information Screen v4.4.11 Playlist Manager v6.1 TIDAL v1.2 losinj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108135 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
