Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-17 Thread Paul Webster


For other readers - the .cue and playing .wav questions are now in a
different thread.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-17 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> Neither clicking on the cue file or the wav file do I get it to play.What do 
> you mean by clicking on cue file or wave file?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-17 Thread carlmart


This is an example of cue file that doesn't play.

REM GENRE Jazz
REM DATE 1978
REM DISCID 55090906
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.99pb5"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
TITLE "Casino"
FILE "Al Di Meola - Casino.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Egyptian Danza"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Chasin' The Voodo"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
INDEX 01 05:57:12
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Dark Eye Tango"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
INDEX 01 11:02:47
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Senor Mouse"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
INDEX 00 16:28:09
INDEX 01 16:30:10
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Fantasia Suite For Two Guitars"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
INDEX 01 23:52:07
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Casino"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
INDEX 01 29:04:05



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-17 Thread carlmart


Neither clicking on the cue file or the wav file do I get it to play.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread Greg Erskine


I use single wav file and cue file per CD.

During a scan, LMS not pCP, gets the information from the cue file and
loads it into the database. No need to click on the cue file.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread carlmart


Made the change as instructed.

It continues to appear the word "empty" when I press on the "cue" file.

The problem is with the undivided, one piece wav files, where all the
musics are one after the other. 

Nothing happens if I press the cue file, neither if it opens the music
files list. It's not able to open the files. 

I can't believe anyone using PCP is not using cue files.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread JohnB


carlmart,

I've just had a look at the LMS convert.conf file.

I realise that you want to stream your wav file as wav to your player
(which is running picoreplayer) but I suspect it might not be possible
to do so if you want to use cue files. This is because the convert.conf
file does not have seek options for "wav to pcm".

As a test, I suggest you go to Settings (from the LMS web browser
interface)
- select the "Advanced" tab
- select "FileTypes" from the drop down list (towards the top right)
- scroll down to the WAV section
- within the WAV section: change PCM from "Native" to "Disabled" (you
could also disable the mp3 option, just to make sure)
- make a note of what you have changed so that you can restore things
back to how they were

This should force LMS to encode the wave file as FLAC before sending the
data to your player. This should enable LMS to use seek times needed to
play cue files.

See if that enables you to play cue files.

(There should be no loss in audio quality doing this.)

- I suggest WAV section



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread paul-


Its a LMS issue.   You need to look at your server/scanner logs on your
windows PC.

Try asking in a thread with a proper subject.  This subject is pCP, and
quite a few wont even look at it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread carlmart


I don't get it. 

This question with the cue files is related to PCP or LMS? 

Is there some place I can go place this question, if it's not related
with PCP?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread carlmart


Can you please load here just one sample cue that works alright with
PCP.

All my cues work fine with VLC, for instance, but not with PCP.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread Greg Erskine


I currently have 883 cue files, each works with single .wav file.
Generated by EAC during ripping process.

I have been using cue/wav files forever.

No special characters though.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread JohnB

The file line in the cue file example was:

FILE "Caetano Veloso, Gal Costa, Gilberto Gil, Maria Bethânia - DOCES
BÁRBAROS - CD1.wav" WAVE

I use cue files a lot, though mostly for m4a/AAC (off air concerts).

I seem to remember that I have had problems in the past where the
filename includes accented characters, e.g. the "â" and "Á". This might
be due to the operating system my main library and LMS runs on (Linux)
or that my LMS is set to English - but it is worth checking what happens
if you substitute the accented characters in the filename and then
Rescan for new files.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread Paul Webster


Re .cue ...

First thing to check ... is the album, that you showed the top of the
.cue file for, listed in your LMS list of albums?

If yes ... then are the individual tracks listed under that album (in
LMS)?

If yes ... then it looks like the scanning worked so try playing one of
the tracks.


If no to any of above then check the scanner.log to see if there is
anything in there about this album/file.
For example - it might say that it cannot find the file.
In that case perhaps the commas in the file name are causing problems (I
have not checked to see if LMS is happy with them).

Otherwise ... perhaps LMS not happy with .cue files for .wav recordings
(again - I have not checked this).
You could test this by making a .flac file of a CD that does not have
any characters other that a-z and space in the name and generate a .cue
for that  - and then scanning again.

FYI I use .cue files with large .mp3 files without any problems

(there was a time when leading spaces were needed by LMS for the TRACK
section of the .cue file but that was changed long ago so that they are
not needed)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread carlmart


Hooray! Complete success. 

DSD playing with great quality. 

DAC shows 352.2KHz oversampling, and music plays great. 

Thanks a lot!

Now the next question, more current than DSD files certainly. How do I
do to play cue commands?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread JohnB


carlmart wrote: 
> How do I get to the LMS settings screen? 
> 
> It is not through the Control Panel that I have installed.

You need to use the Web Browser interface (Open Web Control). I only use
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> How do I get to the LMS settings screen? 
> 
> It is not through the Control Panel that I have installed.If you are using 
> the default Web interface the settings is in the bottom
right corner.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-16 Thread carlmart


How do I get to the LMS settings screen? 

It is not through the Control Panel that I have installed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-15 Thread paul-


To play DSD, you need to install DSDPlayer plugin to your LMS server
running on your windows machine.

Then on your player, go to the pCP web pages, and then on the bottom of
the squeezelite page, you need to select the DSD binary for
squeezelite.

There are many DSD threads here on the forum which you can search.  

Here is a blog posting that has a bunch of detail.  
https://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/2018/01/raspberry-pi-audio-engine-part-6-dsd.html



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-15 Thread carlmart


OK, I'm back. So first things first.

Can someone tell me what is happening with my cue files that do not work
on my PCP? What should I do to make them work?

Second, what about DSD files? Is there a plugin I have to use? Are there
instructions on how to install it and use it? 

My Topping D50 DAC can deal with DSD files with no conversion to PCM, so
I hope the PCP handling of DSD files does not involve any conversion.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-10 Thread Man in a van


And Breath!:)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart

paul- wrote: 
> Last I saw you were using an old version of lms.  7.9.2 is fine.   Did
> you install the DSDplay plugin?
> 
> Squeezelite is the software running on you device using pCP. 
> Squeezelite will play whatever is streamed,  it’s the server task to
> read the file and create the stream.

No, I haven't installed the DSDplay plug in yet. 

I updated the LMS version quite quickly, as I thought many of the things
I needed might be included.

Yes, Squeezelite is the software running here with PCP.

So now I have to make LMS read the file and run the stream. 

Over here is very late, and I won't be able to work back on this until
Monday. 

So I wish all a happy week end, and see you next Monday!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread paul-

Last I saw you were using an old version of lms.  7.9.2 is fine.   Did
you install the DSDplay plugin?

Pcp will play whatever is streamed,  it’s the server task to read the
file and create the stream.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


Perhaps I'd need to say that I was quite pleased with the audio quality
results I could get from the PCP tests I've done so far. 

My questions about how to handle DSD files and cue sheets are because I
would like to start using it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart

Paul Webster wrote: 
> .cue files are supported by LMS.
> Can you post an example of the first 10 or so lines of one of your .cue
> files that does not seem to work?
> (They are plain text so you can open in Notepad to read one)
> 
> Is the .cue file in the same location as the big audio file on your
> disk?


Yes, Paul. The cue file is on the same location as the audio file. 

I just tried it and it opened in VLC with no problem.

Here some text lines from the file:

CATALOG 0
PERFORMER "Caetano Veloso, Gal Costa, Gilberto Gil, Maria Bethânia"
TITLE "DOCES BÁRBAROS - CD1"
FILE "Caetano Veloso, Gal Costa, Gilberto Gil, Maria Bethânia - DOCES
BÁRBAROS - CD1.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Eu E Ela Estávamos Ali Encostados Na Parede"
PERFORMER "Caetano Veloso, Gal Costa, Gilberto Gil, Maria Bethânia"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 00 00:00:00
INDEX 01 00:00:33
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Esoterico"
PERFORMER "Caetano Veloso, Gal Costa, Gilberto Gil, Maria Bethânia"
FLAGS PRE
INDEX 01 04:13:20



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread Paul Webster


.cue files are supported by LMS.
Can you post an example of the first 10 or so lines of one of your .cue
files that does not seem to work?
(They are plain text so you can open in Notepad to read one)

Is the .cue file in the same location as the big audio file on your
disk?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


paul- wrote: 
> You are not going to be able to play DSD without upgrading your LMS
> server... which is on your windows PC.  

OK, what should I upprade on the LMS? My version is 7.9.2. 

> Cue file support also has nothing to do with pCP, you need to be looking
> at your server.

OK, but why won't PCP play the large audio file anyway, without the
pauses between music themes?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread paul-


You are not going to be able to play DSD without upgrading your LMS
server... which is on your windows PC.Cue file support also has
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


This answer seems to indicate there is a way for playing DSD with PCP

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108593-piCorePlayer-DSD-playback=943120=1#post943120



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread edwin2006


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


It seems PCP doesn't play DSD files, at least those I tried. Is that so?

It seems PCP doesn't read or can use cue files, from CDs you ripped on
one large file, with a cue. 

Why won't it read the large file anyway, in flac or wav? Any audio
program does.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


OK, I will try to find other PCP users that have used my DAC (Topping
D50), and find out if anyone was better.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread paul-


carlmart wrote: 
> And how do you know which is the optimal one to select?

That is hard to tell, I would suggest you just try them out.   You can
change the output setting, and squeezelite will restart, you do not need
to reboot.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread Paul Webster


For most situations the effect of Pause (when playing) and Stop is the
same ... so having both buttons on the screen is using space that could
be used for something else.
However, try a long press on Pause.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


OK. It seems a reboot is necessary for new settings to work. 

Having a STOP button would be nice.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> My PCP playing screen is slightly different, graphically speaking. 
> 
> Right now I have a moving FR graph that I don't know what I did to turn
> it on. But I did have a very small LP cover there before. 
> 
> How do you control those settings?
> 
> Why isn't there a STOP anywhere on the screen? 
> 
> Right now I'm using a 24" led monitor for my tests, but the idea is to
> setup a box on my listening room, holding a 7" touch screen and the
> Raspberry. Is there a way to control the screen size? 
> 
> The folders organization I should control on the LMS setup, and I
> already opened a specific topic for that. But the controls I want to
> know more about are those on the PCP itself.


On your Screen > Home > Settings > Screen > Now Playing > Now Playing
Views.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


My PCP playing screen is slightly different, graphically speaking. 

Right now I have a moving FR graph that I don't know what I did to turn
it on. But I did have a very small LP cover there before. 

How do you control those settings?

Why isn't there a STOP anywhere on the screen? 

Right now I'm using a 24" led monitor for my tests, but the idea is to
setup a box on my listening room, holding a 7" touch screen and the
Raspberry. Is there a way to control the screen size? 

The folders organization I should control on the LMS setup, and I
already opened a specific topic for that. But the controls I want to
know more about are those on the PCP itself.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


And how do you know which is the optimal one to select?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread paul-


If you expand the more> tags on each line there is description of every
setting.   And in the case of the output, it shows you every possible
setting for your system.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


paul- wrote: 
> You are vastly confused as to what pCP is.   Those are not screen shots
> of anything pCP generates.
> 
> That is either a jivelite or some software player screen.
> 
> PCP is merely an operating system.  Lms is generating the data that is
> shown on those screens

Yes, I am vastly confused on what PCP is, and I have the right to be so.
You could put that in better terms, be more helpful, instead of
criticizing.

If you are willing to help people you should show how things are,
because if there were any other place I could get this info I would go
there. 

That's what forums are for. Or they should be. 

The problem was in the web setup, and NOBODY here suggested that might
be the problem. Why didn't anyone think of that or tell me where I could
go follow a tutorial. 

To those that tried to help me, thank you.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread carlmart


Thanks for leading me to access LMS.

But what the audio work was in the PCP setup page. 

It only did work after I selected an Output setting, as shown on
screen.

The problem was a missing setting. 

Music is playing fine now.

A friend of mine here, that knows Linux well, helped me find this
setting.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-09 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> Here go three photos, from the folders the program made, to the artists
> names and the musics for one artist.

Ok, this shows you are connected to LMS running on cem-PC.

If you start some music playing and go to the "Now Playing" screen, you
should see volume controls at the bottom right.

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On the PC running LMS, in the system tray you should see an LMS icon
(music notes), if you right click this and select "*Open Web Control*",
a browser will open at the LMS web gui.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread paul-

I don’t see where he has ever got sound, but if what you say is the
case, it could just be alsamixer muted or low.  Usb devices are very
difficult to manage writhing pcp, as volume controls are not
standardized between usb dacs.


But, I’m not sure his server on his windows pc is configured
properly..



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread Apesbrain


Ok, it's taken a lot to piece it all together as English is not OP's
native language and everyone has been a bit punchy, but I think we now
have the complete picture:

OP is running LMS on a Windows PC. He is trying to play via a Raspberry
Pi 3 running piCorePlayer 5 and JiveLite. The screens he's posted are
from the latter. He says he successfully hears analog output from the
Pi, but has not been able to play through to his Topping DAC via USB.
He's configured pCP to output via USB.

Any suggestions on ALSA settings he might try?

OP: On the PC you are using to run LMS open a browser and go to:

http://127.0.0.1:9000



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread paul-


You are vastly confused as to what pCP is.   Those are not screen shots
of anything pCP generates.

That is either a jivelite or some software player screen.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


Here go three photos, from the folders the program made, to the artists
names and the musics for one
artist.278752787627877


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> Yes, when I finished installing PCP on my Raspberry, *all the tracks
> from my music folder showed on the PCP screen*.
> 
> Previous to that I had had LMS scan that same folder. But I can't say
> for sure that LMS made what I describe below.
> 
> What I found on PCP in the folder they called "My music" was around
> twenty subfolders, with titles like Jazz composers, or Years, or Genres,
> that I never created.
> 
> Right now I wasn't interested how that classification was done, or which
> program did it, I took the first album on the list and started playing
> music. 
> 
> But music only came out if set on the PCP Squeeze Audio Device settings
> were in "Analog Audio", which is not what I need. No music if I set it
> to USB audio, with my Topping D50 connected to it.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


Yes, when I finished installing PCP on my Raspberry, all the tracks from
my music folder showed on the PCP screen.

Previous to that I had had LMS scan that same folder. 

What I found on PCP in the folder they called "My music" was around
twenty subfolders, with titles like Jazz composers, or Years, or Genres,
that I never created.

Right now I wasn't interested how that classification was done, or which
program did it, I took the first album on the list and started playing
music. 

But music only came out if set on the PCP Squeeze Audio Device settings
were in "Analog Audio", which is not what I need. No music if I set it
to USB audio, with my Topping D50 connected to it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


kidstypike wrote: 
> Just answer this question:
> 
> Do you, or do you not have an instance of Logitech Media Server (LMS)
> installed and running on a computer/NAS/laptop/other, on your local
> network???
> 
> Never mind piCorePlayer for now.

Yes, LMS is installed on my PC.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


Can we forget about LMS for a minute?

The PCP web setup allows to change the output to USB audio, which I did.
For LMS says it's not running, so what is preventing that USB to work?

Is there any other place to set that up?

Volume in PCP's audio settings does not allow any adjustment.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> They don't know LMS. That's why I'm asking here.
> 
> Or PCP.

Just answer this question:

Do you, or do you not have an instance of Logitech Media Server (LMS)
installed and running on a computer/NAS/laptop/other, on your local
network???

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


kidstypike wrote: 
> Why don't you ask the experienced people you praise so highly? They seem
> to know all about it.:confused:

They don't know LMS. That's why I'm asking here.

Or PCP.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> That's why I ask people that do have more experience about that than me.
> And their opinion has been that the capabilities of a Raspberry Pi 3B
> didn't recommend using it as a server computer. 
> 
> I still do not understand how I get to open the LMS GUI in order to
> check level of the USB output. 
> 
> Is there any other place I should check to see why it's not working?
> Something on the PCP itself, on the Raspberry?

Why don't you ask the experienced people you praise so highly? They seem
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


slartibartfast wrote: 
> You will find an awful lot of people here use a Raspberry Pi as a server
> and it works perfectly well. You are not really in a position to judge
> since you haven't tried it. 
> 

That's why I ask people that do have more experience about that than me.
And their opinion has been that the capabilities of a Raspberry Pi 3B
didn't recommend using it as a server computer. 

I still do not understand how I get to open the LMS GUI in order to
check level of the USB output. 

Is there any other place I should check to see why it's not working?
Something on the PCP itself, on the Raspberry?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> Not wrong. A Raspberry is not a powerful computer to handle what a
> server needs. That's what I have been advised. The LMS will work within
> the limits of that computer.
> 

You will find an awful lot of people here use a Raspberry Pi as a server
and it works perfectly well. You are not really in a position to judge
since you haven't tried it. 


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread Paul Webster


Just FYI ... there are plenty of LMS installs on RPi with libraries in
the tens of thousands of tracks.
There are a few posts here with stats showing scan times that are
reasonable, especially for an operation (clear and rescan) that is run
infrequently.

You should be able to support around 10 players with little problem.

Issues are more likely in wireless networking than in the RPi itself.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


Jeff07971 wrote: 
> 
> Wrong
> LMS IS A Server its in the name "Logitech Media SERVER"

Not wrong. A Raspberry is not a powerful computer to handle what a
server needs. That's what I have been advised. The LMS will work within
the limits of that computer.


>   Wrong,
> use a USB to SATA adaptor, I do

Your are wrong, It's your opinion, not a fact. I did have problems with
ALL 3.5" adaptors I have used: IDE, SATA, either with USB or SCSI
output. The HDDs I used on those adapters broke down soon after. 

> 
> When you have 5 posts on this forum and you're telling Slarti,Greg and I
> that have nearly 5000 between us who do you think maybe right ?

The one with an answer that solves the problem: what about that? 

> BTW you might want to get a newer LMS version

I did. Same error. Another person that knows more than I do about this
Linux/Windows configuration, as PCP is, had the same problem and error
that I did.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> OK, the USB audio I did select before.
> 
> But where is that LMS web gui to set the level up?

IP address of the computer running LMS (say) 192.168.1.100:9000 (edit
*192.168.1.100* to suit).



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*Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


OK, the USB audio I did select before.

But where is that LMS web gui to set the level up?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread kidstypike


carlmart wrote: 
> OK, let's rewind and try to solve the problem.
> 
> With the help of a friend, more familiar with Linux, we installed PCP
> 5.0, with Jivelite and all. 
> 
> Things went fine. PCP is seeing my network, albums and all. 
> 
> So I picked a music to play, and I'm supposed to hear music, but I don't
> have any.
> 
> So let's explain my setup. USB out do DAC > DAC to amp > amp to
> speakers.
> 
> I also tried the analog output, and I get no music. So:
> 
> 1) Where do I select the output?
> 
> 2) Can I have USB output?

piCorePlayer > Squeezelite > Audio Output Device.

27873

On the LMS web gui, make sure the volume for your player is turned right
up.

27872


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


OK, let's rewind and try to solve the problem.

With the help of a friend, more familiar with Linux, we installed PCP
5.0, with Jivelite and all. 

Things went fine. PCP is seeing my network, albums and all. 

So I picked a music to play, and I'm supposed to hear music, but I don't
have any.

So let's explain my setup. USB out do DAC > DAC to amp > amp to
speakers.

I also tried the analog output, and I get no music. So:

1) Where do I select the output?

2) Can I have USB output?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread Apesbrain


carlmart wrote: 
> My question is in the right place.
Indeed it is, sorry; it's just that your problem has nothing to do with
"PiCorePlayer" nor "Squeebox", but I think you know that now.  The
advice you have gotten to install latest LMS 7.9.x is good advice; it
may just eliminate your error message.  Please do this first, then
report results back here.  Once LMS is running on your PC, getting music
to play at your RPi will not be a problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread Man in a van


Somebody is a very naughty boy



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread bpa


V 7.7.6 was the last version released by Logitech as Logitech stopped
providing active maintenance at that version.

Since then LMS has been maintained by the community and by Michael
Herger who is a Logitech employee.

There are many bug  & security fixes since 7.7.6.  Also if you plan to
use internet - "https" support really requires using latest LMS such as
7.9.2 (available in nightly) but at least  use 7.9.1 from here
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/LogitechMediaServer_v7.9.1/



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread Jeff07971


carlmart wrote: 
> This is where you are wrong. 
No you are wrong


> LMS would work very badly as server, so it's not an option.

Wrong
LMS IS A Server its in the name "Logitech Media SERVER"

> You can't use SATA 3.5" HDDs with it, which is where my data is and will
> be. Certainly not an option. 

Wrong,
use a USB to SATA adaptor, I do

> There's a PiCorePlayer tutorial showing how to do that, but the tutorial
> fails to explain how to use PCP with an external server. 
Wrong,
picoreplayer as default install canONLY use another server unless you
add the LMS

> but the problem IS certainly related to PCP, no matter how you insist in
> saying it's not. 

Wrong,
you can install LMS without ANY player and it will work so the
picorePLAYER (Clues in the name) is not an issue

> It's about how to use PCP with an external LMS server.
Wrong,
You're having trouble installing the LMS server on a PC

When you have 5 posts on this forum and you're telling Slarti,Greg and I
that have nearly 5000 between us who do you think maybe right ?

BTW you might want to get a newer LMS version



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on Dell T320
*Plugins:*
AutoRescan/BBCiPlayer/PowerSave/PowerSwitchIII/Squeezecloud/Spotty/Player
Groups
*Remotes:* iPeng9/Orangesqueeze/PC/Jivelite/SqueezeLite-X
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> Logitech Media Server 7.7.6. The last one available.When do you get the error 
> message? I just installed LMS 7.9.2 on Windows
10 and I don't need to fill in mysqueezebox details.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Which version of LMS are you trying to install?

Logitech Media Server 7.7.6. The last one available.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


Jeff07971 wrote: 
> No your question is about LMS nothing to do with picoreplayer. It was
> not suggested you take this question elsewhere it was suggested you
> change the title as this is about install problems with LMS on PC
> Greg one of the developers of piCorePlayer would probably know what will
> get you the best support !
> 
> I have only run LMS on Linux so can be little help for LMS on PC
> 
> Anyhow, if you have piCoreplayer running why not install LMS on the Pi
> and attach a USB HDD to hold your music ?
> 
> 

This is where you are wrong. 

LMS would work very badly as server, so it's not an option. You can't
use SATA 3.5" HDDs with it, which is where my data is and will be.
Certainly not an option. 

There's a PiCorePlayer tutorial showing how to do that, but the tutorial
fails to explain how to use PCP with an external server. 

Right now there wouldn't be any problem in changing the title, but the
problem IS certainly related to PCP, no matter how you insist in saying
it's not. 

It's about how to use PCP with an external LMS server.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> I tried twice, uninstalling and installing LMS again from the beginning.
> 
> 
> The system doesn't seem to allow skipping nothing. I have tried.Which version 
> of LMS are you trying to install?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Maybe  mysqueezebox.com had an issue at the time. Have you tried again
> since then. As far as I know LMS should work without entering
> mysqueezebox details. Can you complete the installation by skipping that
> step?

I tried twice, uninstalling and installing LMS again from the beginning.


The system doesn't seem to allow skipping nothing. I have tried.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread Jeff07971


carlmart wrote: 
> My question is related to PiCorePlayer, LMS and Squeezebox, as the three
> work together. What I want is someone's help, not to try to send me
> elsewhere as my question does not belong here. It does.

No your question is about LMS nothing to do with picoreplayer. It was
not suggested you take this question elsewhere it was suggested you
change the title as this is about install problems with LMS on PC
Greg one of the developers of piCorePlayer would probably know what will
get you the best support !

I have only run LMS on Linux so can be little help for LMS on PC

Anyhow, if you have piCoreplayer running why not install LMS on the Pi
and attach a USB HDD to hold your music ?

Jeff



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> The following are the official Logitech instructions on how to install
> LMS on Windows 7:
> 
> Windows 7 / XP / Vista
> 
> To install Logitech Media Server:
> 
> Get the latest version of Logitech Media Server from the Downloads
> page.
> 
> Run the downloaded file and follow the onscreen instructions.
> 
> In the final window, click Finish. The Logitech Media Server Control
> Panel will appear.
> 
> Next, you'll need to configure Logitech Media Server to find your media
> and sync to your MySqueezebox.Com account.
> 
> In the Logitech Media Server Control Panel, click the Library tab.
> Here, you can:
> Change your media folder locations. Your Windows Music, Videos,
> and Pictures folders will be entered here initially.
> Set your Playlist folder location.
> Opt to Use iTunes by selecting this check box. This means
> Logitech Media Server will create your music database from your iTunes
> database.
> 
> On the Account tab, you can enter your MySqueezebox.Com credentials.
> This way, you can access any music-service-based Apps you've subscribed
> to from Logitech Media Server. If you don't already have a
> MySqueezebox.Com account, go to www.mysqueezebox.com/user/signup to
> create one.
> 
> Click Apply to confirm the settings, and then OK to close the
> Control Panel.
> 
> NOTE: Squeezebox players only support music streaming. Music, video, and
> picture content can be accessed through Logitech Revue.
> 
> 
> My sole interest with LMS is so that the PiCorePlayer on my Raspberry
> works, using my PC as server. pCP only seems to accept LMS, it can't
> find the media directories by itself, which I would prefer
> 
> When I tried to install LMS following those instructions I run into that
> error window I showed. 
> 
> My question is in the right place. This is a forum for Logitech Media
> Server, as written above, and on the large title much above it says
> "Logitech Squuezebox". 
> 
> My question is related to PiCorePlayer, LMS and Squeezebox, as the three
> work together. What I want is someone's help, not to try to send me
> elsewhere as my question does not belong here. It does.Maybe  
> mysqueezebox.com had an issue at the time. Have you tried again
since then. As far as I know LMS should work without entering
mysqueezebox details. Can you complete the installation by skipping that
step?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-08 Thread carlmart


Apesbrain wrote: 
> There is no such thing as "installing Squeezebox".  You download LMS
> from 'here' (http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=7.9)
> and install it on your PC.  Point it to your music library and let it
> index.  That's it.  If you want your server PC to also be a player, you
> install the "Local Player" plugin.  If you have problems, post to the
> "Logitech Media Server" forum.
> 
> Once the server is running, you configure your RPi/piCorePlayer to use
> this instance of LMS as its server.
> 
> If you continue to have problems specific to MySqueezebox, try going to
> www.mysqueezebox.com and confirm that your login credentials work.

The following are the official Logitech instructions on how to install
LMS on Windows 7:

Windows 7 / XP / Vista

To install Logitech Media Server:

Get the latest version of Logitech Media Server from the Downloads
page.

Run the downloaded file and follow the onscreen instructions.

In the final window, click Finish. The Logitech Media Server Control
Panel will appear.

Next, you'll need to configure Logitech Media Server to find your media
and sync to your MySqueezebox.Com account.

In the Logitech Media Server Control Panel, click the Library tab.
Here, you can:
Change your media folder locations. Your Windows Music, Videos,
and Pictures folders will be entered here initially.
Set your Playlist folder location.
Opt to Use iTunes by selecting this check box. This means
Logitech Media Server will create your music database from your iTunes
database.

On the Account tab, you can enter your MySqueezebox.Com credentials.
This way, you can access any music-service-based Apps you've subscribed
to from Logitech Media Server. If you don't already have a
MySqueezebox.Com account, go to www.mysqueezebox.com/user/signup to
create one.

Click Apply to confirm the settings, and then OK to close the
Control Panel.

NOTE: Squeezebox players only support music streaming. Music, video, and
picture content can be accessed through Logitech Revue.


My sole interest with LMS is so that the PiCorePlayer on my Raspberry
works, using my PC as server. pCP only seems to accept LMS, it can't
find the media directories by itself, which I would prefer

When I tried to install LMS following those instructions I run into that
error window I showed. 

My question is in the right place. This is a forum for Logitech Media
Server, as written above, and on the large title much above it says
"Logitech Squuezebox". 

My question is related to PiCorePlayer, LMS and Squeezebox, as the three
work together. What I want is someone's help, not to try to send me
elsewhere as my question does not belong here. It does.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-07 Thread Greg Erskine


What do you mean by the term squeezebox?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-07 Thread carlmart


Because LMS will be the server on the PC to feed the PiCorePlayer on the
Raspberry, along with Squeezebox.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-07 Thread slartibartfast


carlmart wrote: 
> 
> 
> What I'm trying to install now is LMS & Squeezebox on my PC, which for
> some time will act as my server. 
> 
I don't see how installing LMS on your PC is anything to do with
Picoreplayer.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-07 Thread carlmart


Sorry to disagree, Greg. 

The question is related to installing PicCorePlayer, and Squeezebox and
LMS are part of the installation. 

I'm just following the PiCorePlayer tutorial and that is the way things
are.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-07 Thread Greg Erskine


hi carlmart,

As this has nothing to do with piCorePlayer you might be better posting
in a thread with a better title so you can get help from the LMS/PC
experts.

regards
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-07 Thread carlmart


The Raspberry is a Pi 3B+, and the pCP version is 4.1.0

That part now is solved, and it seems fine on the Rpi side.

What I'm trying to install now is LMS & Squeezebox on my PC, which for
some time will act as my server. 

My Squeezebox is registered and activated, and I'm trying to finish the
LMS setup. 

The error arises when I try to apply all the data in the LMS Control
Panel.

The message I get is this. 

What I'm doing wrong? Do you need any other information?

Thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing PiCorePlayer & Squeebox

2019-08-06 Thread paul-


That would normally be part of a kernel panic.  What version pCP and
what rpi device.



piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. 
Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org

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