Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-20 Thread adamdea

Man in a van wrote: 
> Testers required
> 
> https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=123=136920=45871555a2005255e8abed75b1bd09c5#p645675
Thanks
I don't think my ancient nas is x-64 but will check.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-20 Thread Man in a van

adamdea wrote: 
> Hi Eduardoo does this package work with spotty and Youtube?

Testers required

https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=123=136920=45871555a2005255e8abed75b1bd09c5#p645675



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-14 Thread Mnyb

Well spotty and youtube relies on that the iosocket::SSL  support is
installed on the system .
That’s on the OS itself it never comes with LMS . There are reasons for
that .
On some OS it’s as easy as a gui packet installer or a single command in
a shell and your set .




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-13 Thread eduardoo

adamdea wrote: 
> Hi Eduardoo does this package work with spotty and Youtube?

No idea. I don't do either.
However, I see in his post that he changed to a later realise of LMS
"due to change in spotify support". So, maybe it's supported now?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-13 Thread adamdea

eduardoo wrote: 
> Just to let everyone know, a poster on qnap forum by the name of
> freaksat put out a beta lms 7.9.1 qpkg that seems to do without ssots. 
> I tried it and it seems to work so far.
> https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=123=136920
Hi Eduardoo does this package work with spotty and Youtube?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-13 Thread eduardoo

Just to let everyone know, a poster on qnap forum by the name of
freaksat put out a beta lms 7.9.1 qpkg that seems to do without ssots. 
I tried it and it seems to work so far.
https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=123=136920



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-10 Thread Grumpy Bob

PHAZBLADE wrote: 
> Another vote for going with the Pi here  :)
> 
> I still have my Qnaps, really stuck with them because of Squeezebox
> Server
> 
> The Pi still uses them as the storage, works magic, and with the Spotty
> App, Spotify works great as well
> 
> Since using the Pi, I have allowed them (the Qnaps) all to do their
> updates and LMS has gone ... on them

For me the hassle of updating LMS via SSOTS was the main reason I
switched to using a Pi3 as a server. Oh, and the fact that periodically
the QNAP system updates would break LMS. And the fact that SSOTS is no
longer maintained (and there was that Bash vulnerability). Also, using
the Pi means that I can use Spotty.

The versatility of the Squeezebox system continues to impress. At home I
have a Touch, two Radios and two Raspberry Pi players streamed from LMS
running on a Raspberry Pi3 with the music library on a QNAP NAS. In my
office I have LMS running on a Western Digital WiFi enabled Passport 2Tb
drive, with a Raspberry Pi as a player. All my Raspberry Pi devices are
using piCorePlayer, and all work very well.

Robert



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-10 Thread PHAZBLADE

Another vote for going with the Pi here  :)

I still have my Qnaps, really stuck with them because of Squeezebox
Server

The Pi still uses them as the storage, works magic, and with the Spotty
App, Spotify works great as well

Since using the Pi, I have allowed them (the Qnaps) all to do their
updates and LMS has gone ... on them



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-08 Thread SirHades

Just chiming in because I had the same question/issue..
I was unable to update to LMS 7.9 on my qnap NAS and someone over there
suggested a raspberry pi. Since I had one lying around I tried it out
and it works flawlessly.
I use a first gen Rpi with Max2Play. It's a plug and play solution on
the most under powered pi available.
Chose which version LMS Server you want, point it to your NAS' music
library and you're on. Nightly updates are almost automatic (2 clicks).
Do give it a try, it's risk free, if you don't like it you can use it as
a player in a less-used room.

SirHades



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-02 Thread Mnyb

A NUC or similar is a PC so you put an OS your comfortable handling on
it .

But performance wise some Linux like Debian, Ubuntu ,Mint 18 ?

I took a different route I used VMware esxi and runs a virtual Linux
mint and two virtual NAS on my NUC .




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-02 Thread eduardoo

Cadster wrote: 
> Have a look here https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?t=135263
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn G8441 met Tapatalk

Interesting.  
The funky thing is that the issues everyone had happened since QTS4.3. 
The thread says 4.2 and higher. wonder what that implies.

Thanks a lot.  I'll look around and see if there's any more info as
well.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-02 Thread Cadster

Have a look here https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?t=135263

Verstuurd vanaf mijn G8441 met Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-02 Thread d6jg

Grumpy Bob wrote: 
> I've never used it, but Vortexbox might be an option.
> 
> Robert

I have used Vortexbox but if your machine doesn't have a CD drive there
isn't really a massive benefit over other brands of Linux. An Intel NUC
is IMHO a bit overkill. A dedicated Pi3 with files on a NAS will do the
job fine.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-01 Thread Grumpy Bob

eduardoo wrote: 
> If I get an lower end NUC or other barebone PC (which hopefully would
> have better performance than a pi, but not much bigger or more power
> hungry) with no preinstalled OS, what's the best way to put a running
> LMS 7.9 into it?
> 
> Thanks.

I've never used it, but Vortexbox might be an option.

Robert



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2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired)
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-11-01 Thread eduardoo

If I get an lower end NUC or other barebone PC (which hopefully would
have better performance than a pi, but not much bigger or more power
hungry) with no preinstalled OS, what's the best way to put a running
LMS 7.9 into it?

Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-10-31 Thread eduardoo

Thank you all for the responses.

To address some of your responses/queries/ideas.

1.  Yes, the same thing had been posted to QNAP forum.  Let's see what
(if anything) happens.
2.  I worry about the RAM/ Pi performance issues because one of the
reasons I upgraded to the current NAS from an ARM/512GB ram one was that
it was struggling with my library (which was smaller back then about 5
years ago) 
3.  I'll look around and see what would be an appropriate machine to run
a clean and simple LMS.  Just out of curiosity, I have this ancient
thing doing nothing much at home:  
https://www.msi.com/product/tablet/WindPad-110W.html 
It's now running 8GB ram / 50G SSD with Windows 10 (I can change its OS
if necessary).  If a attach an 100M ethernet dongle to its only USB
outlet, do you think it'll run better or worse than a Pi?

Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-10-31 Thread Grumpy Bob

eduardoo wrote: 
> Thanks, Robert.
> 
> That's an idea I might need to consider, but it does involve an extra
> box (though very small) and another power plug in my jungle of AV and
> hifi hardware in the living room.
> 
> A couple of questions for a real-life user:
> 1.  In your configuration, when you prompt something to play, do you
> know if the files would go directly from the NAS to the switch to the
> SB, or does it go to switch, to Pi, back to switch, then to SB?  
> 
> 2.  Given that Pi has very little ram compared to an computer or NAS
> (mine has 3GB), does it run well with large libraries (I have 120,457
> tracks amongst 11,665 albums and growing)?  
> 
> 3. Do you notice any performance difference in speed or audio quality
> compared with running LMS on NAS?
> 
> Thanks again.

My Pi3 server is connected by cable to the router, as is the NAS. My
players are all connected by wifi to the router, and all playback is
smooth. I cannot tell any difference in sound quality between LMS
running on either device - not that I would expect a difference unless
there were wifi issues.

My library is 2585 albums with 27580 tracks - this takes about 5 minutes
to scan for new files, and I think about 20 minutes for a clear and
rescan.

I use either of two iOS apps (iPeng and SqueezePad) or the LMS web
interface to control the server, LMS seems as responsive as it did with
the QNAP (though I switched from the QNAP several years ago). One real
advantage is the ease with which LMS is updated on the Pi, it's much
less hassle than on the QNAP.

Robert



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2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired)
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-10-31 Thread adamdea

eduardoo wrote: 
> Ever since QNAP upgrading to 64 bit firmware, support for LMS is much
> weakened.  I can still manage to get it to play music (after some simple
> hack to copy some files to the "wrong" folder), but getting some plugins
> to work has become much more difficult (e.g. I can't get C3PO to work,
> and using Squeezelite as a DLNA device no longer works with flac, etc.).
> I understand that using docker (virtualization) works, but my older
> QNAP 469L doesn't support virtualization, so it's not an option for me.
> Another option is of course an external device running LMS, but that's
> another box and more clutter. 
> 
> From what I understand (based on the very little that I know or
> understand), the problems seem to lie with the long un-maintained SSOTS
> and that LMS seems to look for various files in wrong folders since the
> QNAP firmware update.  I have no idea whether this is something that a
> technically adept person (obviously not me) can easily fix, but I and
> I'm sure many QNAP owners would appreciate a easy to install LMS7.9 QPKG
> (installing 7.9 after the old factory 7.7 qpkg is already a little
> convoluted for a lot of people)
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.I appreciate and to some extent share your concern, although i have
given up and gone the pi route. My guess is that the best bet would be
to appeal on the QNAP forum for someone to do it since it's really a
qnap issue (apologies if you have already done this).. The other
alternative might be to see whether there were any other nases which can
run LMS or whether those that did have now gone the way of LMS. What is
the current position vis avis synology for example? Perhaps another
alternative might be to take something that -can- run  LMS and turn it
into a nas.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-10-31 Thread DJanGo

eduardoo wrote: 
> 
> A couple of questions for a real-life user:
> 1.  In your configuration, when you prompt something to play, do you
> know if the files would go directly from the NAS to the switch to the
> SB, or does it go to switch, to Pi, back to switch, then to SB?  
> 
> 2.  Given that Pi has very little ram compared to an computer or NAS
> (mine has 3GB), does it run well with large libraries (I have 120,457
> tracks amongst 11,665 albums and growing)?  
> 
> 3. Do you notice any performance difference in speed or audio quality
> compared with running LMS on NAS?
> 
> Thanks again.
1) Do did not want an explanation how TCP/IP works?
Given the Fact that we talking about a LAN it doesnt matter that much
how many hops a "play that track" needs.

2) Remember why your NAS has 3GB RAM and ask yourself how much of that
ram is aviable for 3rd Party usage like LMS.

3) When i was younger and had two real slimdevices players i was so poor
that my Home Lan was only 10 Mbit and Audio wasnt a issue since these
old days.
A 100 MBit Switch without A Fan simply wasnt aviable in these old Days.

Your Lib is bigger than mine and i noticed a huge difference between my
old Standalone LMS with an P Mobile and 4 GB Ram with my new I7 with 8GB
Ram.
WebGUI is increased - scantimes are decreased.
But since my LMS has plenty of RAM i tested to run the cachefolder into
a RAMDISK - didnt increase anything except the boot time was decreased
(needs to copy the data into RAM before starting LMS)

If i would run lms in my NAS? Nope
If i would change my LMS to run as a NAS - yapp -> done that already.
Raid and smb is the only thing you had to add to a standalone PC that
already runs your LMS. Not a big deal.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-10-31 Thread Mnyb

eduardoo wrote: 
> Thanks, Robert.
> 
> That's an idea I might need to consider, but it does involve an extra
> box (though very small) and another power plug in my jungle of AV and
> hifi hardware in the living room.
> 
> A couple of questions for a real-life user:
> 1.  In your configuration, when you prompt something to play, do you
> know if the files would go directly from the NAS to the switch to the
> SB, or does it go to switch, to Pi, back to switch, then to SB?  
> 
> 2.  Given that Pi has very little ram compared to an computer or NAS
> (mine has 3GB), does it run well with large libraries (I have 120,457
> tracks amongst 11,665 albums and growing)?  
> 
> 3. Do you notice any performance difference in speed or audio quality
> compared with running LMS on NAS?
> 
> Thanks again.

Consider an intel NUC with such a library ? but the PI is so cheap so
you can get one and try , if its to weak make a player of it.

And have server and NAS not in the hif rack in the living room :) thats
what a network is for, dump the server in a closet.
Mine sites besides my main router and switch from where all the ethernet
wiring in my home is distrubuted.




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iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Is there a genius out there who can put together a working LMS7.9 QPKG for QNAP NAS?

2017-10-31 Thread Grumpy Bob

eduardoo wrote: 
> Ever since QNAP upgrading to 64 bit firmware, support for LMS is much
> weakened.  I can still manage to get it to play music (after some simple
> hack to copy some files to the "wrong" folder), but getting some plugins
> to work has become much more difficult (e.g. I can't get C3PO to work,
> and using Squeezelite as a DLNA device no longer works with flac, etc.).
> I understand that using docker (virtualization) works, but my older
> QNAP 469L doesn't support virtualization, so it's not an option for me.
> Another option is of course an external device running LMS, but that's
> another box and more clutter. 
> 
> From what I understand (based on the very little that I know or
> understand), the problems seem to lie with the long un-maintained SSOTS
> and that LMS seems to look for various files in wrong folders since the
> QNAP firmware update.  I have no idea whether this is something that a
> technically adept person (obviously not me) can easily fix, but I and
> I'm sure many QNAP owners would appreciate a easy to install LMS7.9 QPKG
> (installing 7.9 after the old factory 7.7 qpkg is already a little
> convoluted for a lot of people)
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.

Several regulars in the forums (including me) have stopped running LMS
on their QNAP NASs in favour of running LMS on a Raspberry Pi, linked to
the music files on the NAS.

I'm using a Raspberry Pi 3 with piCorePlayer to run LMS. It's quite a
cheap option, you just need the Pi, a cheap case and a power supply. I
find it very easy to set up and much, much easier to update LMS versions
than when I used to run LMS on the QNAP.

Robert



*Home: *Raspberry Pi 3/piCoreplayer/LMS7.9  with files on QNAP TS-239
Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega
Planar 3 and Naim CD3)
PiCorePlayer(Pi2) with touchscreen and IQAudIO DAC+>Sennheisers 
2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired)
*Office:* LMS7.9 running on WiFi MyPassport drive >
piCorePlayer(PiB)/HiFiBerryDAC > Amptastic Amplifier
SqueezePad, iPeng as controllers 

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