Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-08-17 Thread Michael Herger

B) volumio 2.246 Distro (based on Rasbian) runs stable


Most likely the log folder being volatile is a Volumio specific 
customization of Raspbian. It's documented how to do this in many 
places, as people try to prevent wearing out the SD card. But it's not 
Raspbian default behaviour.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-08-16 Thread Black Senator

After months of unsuccessful testing of different solution strategies, I
have now received quite unexpectedly a 'solution'
(https://volumio.org/forum/#p36626) in the volumio forum.

Thanks Karl!


"The basic problem ... that LMS will fail to start if it cannot
open its log files at startup. It uses the location
/var/log/squeezeboxserver which is a directory created at installation
time. Unfortunately on Raspbian this directory is in a temporary
in-memory space (to save wear and tear on your sd card) so is wiped out
after each reboot. To fix this we need to tell raspbian to re-create the
directory after each reboot."

"...we need to re-create the temp directory each time:"#

Code:

sudo nano /etc/rc.local



"Now insert the next three lines just before the 'exit 0' line"

Code:

mkdir /var/log/squeezeboxserver/
  chown squeezeboxserver /var/log/squeezeboxserver/
  chmod 775 /var/log/squeezeboxserver/
  
  exit 0



"Once the system is back up Logitech Media Server should start
normally."

And yes - that it!

Black Senator



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-12 Thread Black Senator

Since good advice did not solve a problem, I helped myself.

My last question was: do you need additional patches for an LMS
installation on Rasbian, as recommended in several older descriptions*.
I would have liked to have a statement from a skilled expert.

I still had a RasbPi in stock and therefore simply installed the current
version Rasbian. After the necessary basic configuration (language,
time, memory usage, keyboard and fixed IP**) I installed LMS 7.9.0 and
...
it runs stably and cleanly without the I still PHP etc. had to patch.

After some attempts I have also integrated my music library on the NAS
via mount e.g. fstab entry and on top an additional cache directory on
the NAS. The LMS music database moves to this cache next, so that
read/write operations on the SD card remain as low as possible.

Thus, I have created a reference system and can now compare this to the
corrupt LMS installation on Volumio-Distro after restart/reboot a
succesful installation.


Regards


Black Senator



*> ... recommendations ... a post-processing of the LMS installation on
> RasbPi (e.g. 'here'
> (http://raspberry-at-home.com/logitech-media-server/), 'here'
> (http://blog.johjoh.de/squeezebox-auf-den-raspberry-pi/) and 'here'
> (http://c64-online.com/?page_id=154)). The main advice is to install an
> additional file (lms-rpi-raspbian.tar.gz or lms-patches.tgz) as a patch.
> What exactly this patch does (with PHP?) is nowhere really explained.
> Apart from this, these instructions are two to three years old and so
> refer to old releases.
> 
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I prefer static IP for non-mobil devices (TV, NAS, Media Server,
Radio etc.)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-05 Thread Greg Erskine

bpa wrote: 
> Since you don't know Linux - I would advise choose a ready to go version
> with simplified admin such as Max2play or piCorepplayer
> 
> edit:
> 
> The main reason for this advice is that there is a large number of user
> who can offer advice with Max2play or pCP.  Your problem about volumio &
> LMS couldnt' be answered easily as there are not that many users of that
> combination online.
> If you expect to need more help - use the combination which has a good
> number of users online and willing to provide real hard experience.

I think this is very good advice.

I have noticed that the popularity of a SB/LMS solution is dependant on
the forum you are on. So you need to pick the right solution or right
forum.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-05 Thread bpa

Black Senator wrote: 
> Can anyone of the experts give a reliable statement on this issue?

Since you don't know Linux - I would advise choose a ready to go version
with simplified admin such as Max2play or piCorepplayer



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-05 Thread Black Senator

Thanks for the recommendations. Before I blame others (volumio), ask
wether I made a mistake during the implementation (after more than 20
installations and despite the initial running LMS) or just ignore the
problem (switch to another MPD product) ...
... maybe we can just solve the problem.

To do this, lets ignore the volumio instance and clarify the
prerequisites of LMS on RasbPi:

I found some recommendations in the www which recommend a
post-processing of the LMS installation on RasbPi (e.g. 'here'
(http://raspberry-at-home.com/logitech-media-server/), 'here'
(http://blog.johjoh.de/squeezebox-auf-den-raspberry-pi/) and 'here'
(http://c64-online.com/?page_id=154)). The main advice is to install an
additional file (lms-rpi-raspbian.tar.gz or lms-patches.tgz) as a patch.
What exactly this patch does (with PHP?) is nowhere really explained.
Apart from this, these instructions are two to three years old and so
refer to old releases.

The question arises therefore, whether with the current releases Debian
Jessie and LMS 7.9.0 is necessary or possibly even counterproductiv?
Or in other words, what is the correct way to install a stable LMS on
Debian Jessie?

Can anyone of the experts give a reliable statement on this issue?


Regards


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-05 Thread sbp

Black Senator wrote: 
> To be honest, I had been thinking about users and rights for some time.
> 1. volumio 2 has no log in user >root<, but only the user >volumio<
> 2. the installation and start/stop of the server can only be done with
> >sudo ...< (unlike the previous installation on the NAS)
> 
> 
> 
> As I said, I am a LINUX Newbie. In the area user, rights and
> permissions, I am actually inexperienced. Or in other words, I can not
> answer your question.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> 
> Black Senator

Hi if you are willing to try another distro you could give piCorePlayer
a try. It is very simple to install LMS on pCP - you only have to press
a button than it will install LMS and it should be running.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-05 Thread bpa

Black Senator wrote: 
> To be honest, I had been thinking about users and rights for some time.
> 1. volumio 2 has no log in user >root<, but only the user >volumio<
> 2. the installation and start/stop of the server can only be done with
> >sudo ...< (unlike the previous installation on the NAS)
> 
> 
> 
> As I said, I am a LINUX Newbie. In the area user, rights and
> permissions, I am actually inexperienced. Or in other words, I can not
> answer your question.

No root and using "sudo" is normal for many distro - there are plenty of
post regarding the security rationale for this approach. 

I don't know volumio distro and it seems to have done something weird or
else you have done LMS installation incorrectly

1. Get back onto volumnio message boards as it seems to be a volumio
issue.
2. Learn more Linux.

Permissision basics  - read onling there are plenty of tutorials.

Each userid is a member of a group.

Files and directories have basically 3 perrmissions - Read, Write and 
Execute/List
Files and Directories are owned by a user (who is in a group) - so each
file has an owning User and Group  and so to control access to a
file/duirec -  permissions on the file / directory are set for the
Owner, The owning Group and Others

So to check if squeeze+ can write to /var/log
1. Check the gorup to which squeeze+ belong 
2. Check the ownership of the /var/log directory 
3. Compare permission of /var /log for User, Group and Others against
squeeze+



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-04 Thread Black Senator

To be honest, I had been thinking about users and rights for some time.
1. volumio 2 has no log in user >root<, but only the user >volumio<
2. the installation and start/stop of the server can only be done with
>sudo ...< (unlike the previous installation on the NAS)

bpa wrote: 
> Does the user squeeze+ (which seesmot be running squeezeboxserver_safe )
> have write permission to the log directory (and all higher) ?

As I said, I am a LINUX Newbie. In the area user, rights and
permissions, I am actually inexperienced. Or in other words, I can not
answer your question.

Best wishes


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-04 Thread bpa

Black Senator wrote: 
> 22660
> 
> Tonight I will re-install volumio from the BackUpimage and install LMS
> again. And - before any reboot/restart - I will see what results the
> queries with netstat etc. and folder contents (log files) deliver.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Black Senator

Does the user squeeze+ (which seesmot be running squeezeboxserver_safe )
have write permission to the log directory (and all higher) ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-04 Thread Black Senator

22660

Tonight I will re-install volumio from the BackUpimage and install LMS
again. And - before any reboot/restart - I will see what results the
queries with netstat etc. and folder contents (log files) deliver.

Regards

Black Senator


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-04 Thread bpa

No port 3483 open so I think LMS is not really running - possibly
squeezeboxserver_safe keeps trying to start it and each time LMS fails
(from ps output LMS has small CPU usage).

Anything in this log file ? - which should be produced by
squeezeboxserver_safe
/var/log/squeezeboxserver/server.log



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-04 Thread Black Senator

pippin wrote: 
> Oh, and how do you know none of the ports is in use?

Maybe I´m wrong - but I can´t see anything...

Code:


  volumio@volumio:/$ ps aux | grep squeeze
  squeeze+   535  0.0  0.5   3500  2640 ?SMay02   0:44 /bin/bash 
/usr/   
 sbin/squeezeboxserver_safe /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver --prefsdir 
/var/lib/squeez 
   eboxserver/prefs --logdir /var/log/squeezeboxserver/ 
--cachedir /var/lib/squeeze 
   boxserver/cache --charset=utf8
  squeeze+ 32704 99.5  3.4  20780 17204 ?R09:07   0:05 
/usr/bin/perl / 
   usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver --prefsdir 
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/prefs --logdir /v 
   ar/log/squeezeboxserver/ 
--cachedir /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache --charset=ut 
   f8 --norestart
  volumio  32707  0.0  0.3   2584  1572 pts/0S+   09:08   0:00 grep squeeze
  volumio@volumio:/$ netstat -l -e -p
  (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info
  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)
  Active Internet connections (only servers)
  Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State 
 User   Inode   PID/Program name
  tcp0  0 raspberrypi.fritz:49152 *:* LISTEN
 volumio14154   503/upmpdcli
  tcp0  0 *:5000  *:* LISTEN
 volumio17677   1267/shairport-sync
  tcp0  0 *:netbios-ssn   *:* LISTEN
 root   13989   -
  tcp0  0 *:34414 *:* LISTEN
 statd  9068-
  tcp0  0 *:sunrpc*:* LISTEN
 root   8909-
  tcp0  0 *:ssh   *:* LISTEN
 root   10615   -
  tcp0  0 *:microsoft-ds  *:* LISTEN
 root   13988   -
  tcp0  0 *:3006  *:* LISTEN
 volumio15237   505/volumio-remote-
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:54239  [::]:*  LISTEN
 statd  9074-
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:49152  [::]:*  LISTEN
 volumio14155   503/upmpdcli
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:5000   [::]:*  LISTEN
 volumio17678   1267/shairport-sync
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:6600   [::]:*  LISTEN
 root   9208-
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:netbios-ssn[::]:*  LISTEN
 root   13987   -
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:sunrpc [::]:*  LISTEN
 root   8912-
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:ssh[::]:*  LISTEN
 root   10639   -
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:3000   [::]:*  LISTEN
 volumio15740   1033/node
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:3001   [::]:*  LISTEN
 volumio17882   1141/node
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:3005   [::]:*  LISTEN
 volumio16906   1033/node
  tcp6   0  0 [::]:microsoft-ds   [::]:*  LISTEN
 root   13986   -
  udp0  0 *:mdns  *:*   
 avahi  10881   -
  udp0  0 *:40169 *:*   
 statd  9065-
  udp0  0 *:1023  *:*   
 root   8908-
  udp0  0 localhost:51252 *:*   
 volumio14156   503/upmpdcli
  udp0  0 *:54629 *:*   
 avahi  10883   -
  udp0  0 *:1900  *:*   
 volumio14158   503/upmpdcli
  

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-04 Thread pippin

How did you install LMS?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-04 Thread Black Senator

I already know this thread - as far as I see this is about volumio 1.5.
I tried to transmit this - but with no success.
But I'm Linux/UNIX newbie and still learning

Regards

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-03 Thread DJanGo

Black Senator wrote: 
> Okay, sorry! I was imprecise:
> A) none of the 9k ports are in use
> B) can't find any log files - nowhere
> 
> I'm using WinSCP and PuTTy for browsing and operations
> 
> Regards
> 
> Black Senator

C)
https://volumio.org/forum/running-volumio-and-logitech-media-server-parallel-t587.html



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-03 Thread Black Senator

Okay, sorry! I was imprecise:
A) none of the 9k ports are in use
B) can't find any log files - nowhere

I'm using WinSCP and PuTTy for browsing and operations

Regards

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-03 Thread bpa

Black Senator wrote: 
> The server is definitely running (ps aux | grep squeeze). Port 9000 is
> "dead" (netstat)

If port 9000 is already in use LMS will try to use the next huigher
9001, 9002, 9003 etc until it find a free port.

Use "netstat -l -e -p" see what processes are listening and look to see
which of 9001, 9002 etc is in use (if LMS is running properly then port
3483 will also be open for Listening) ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-03 Thread DJanGo

Black Senator wrote: 
> Black Senator

Please take a look in the logfiles!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-03 Thread Black Senator

Yes - you'r right. Befor that I had LMS, Twonky runing on a MBLD - so
three server in parallel.
So I gave the RasPi a try.

Regards 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Raspberry Pi mit volumio & LMS -> LMS is di

2017-05-02 Thread pippin

Sorry, i don't understand, where are you running LMS? On the same RPi
where you also run Volumio?



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