Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Libratone Zipp 2 arrived today - and is now up and running. I deliberately went through the set-up without using their app or the Apple special Airplay Setup stuff (detects the device and offers to set it up from the iOS WiFi page). So I did it all from regular Windows machine over WiFi and web browser. Now playing via Airplay Bridge. Tried via UPnP Bridge first and it played 5 seconds and stopped ... I'll research that later (maybe). Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
It does indeed have Alexa built in. I received notification of it being posted on Saturday so should have it on Monday or Tuesday. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > My Zipp 2 (full size) still hasn't shipped ... purchase not yet revealed > ... 46GBP inc shipping from Brighton (assuming it turns up). Doesnt this thing also have Alexa built in? I wonder if it supports Amazons AudioPlayer interface - in that case the Stream commands in MediaServer would work with it. philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > Update ... in fact it works well. Shows that it is worth experimenting! > > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105198-ANNOUNCE-AirPlay-Bridge-integrate-AirPlay-devices-with-LMS-(squeeze2raop)=1020137=1#post1020137 > and the post that follows it. Great stuff, thanks for testing and confirming this. Makes getting that second Zipp Mini harder to resist... hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Update ... in fact it works well. Shows that it is worth experimenting! https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105198-ANNOUNCE-AirPlay-Bridge-integrate-AirPlay-devices-with-LMS-(squeeze2raop)=1020137=1#post1020137 and the post that follows it. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > You can experiment set the "Output Channel Mode" for the device ... > (Left/Right/Mono) ... and see if it filters as you would hope > LMS/Settings/Player/the airplay device/Audio > > If it does then you should be able to set one as left and one as right > and then put them in a sync group ... might work. > > Would mean that if you wanted to have just one playing by itself then > you would have to go back to the settings and make it Stereo (and have > the device combine) or Mono (and let LMS/bridge? combine). > > Good experiment.[/QUOTE > > I just tried the LMS-only with 2 AirPlay speakers ... and it did not > work. > LMS was happy to let me set the audio as Left or Right only - but both > channels were output at the speaker when played via AirPlay plugin. > So I assume that AirPlay plugin does not take that LMS setting into > account. > I'll ask on Airplay Bridge plugin. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > You can sync them through the Libratone app but I only have one so cant > try it either way Me too, I'm thinking about getting another one, which is why I asked... decisions decisions... Thanks everybody for the advice. hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > I consider my new Zipp Mini to be more than adequate for the garden and > ad-hoc around the house use. For £40 I am very happy. I have revealed > it to my wife, she was impressed (phew!) How do you add your system info to the footer of your posts? I thought it might be useful for you know what my level is. I'll put it here for now: SERVER Content: Mostly CD rips on NAS (16/44.1 flac) Gigabit ethernet LMS: RPi 3B+ running DietPi with LMS MAIN SYSTEM Gigabit ethernet Player: RPi3 running piCorePlayer (squeezelite only) 5ft Gen3.1 USB A to C cable (cheapo braided one off Amazon) DAC: Khadas Toneboard inside old Black Magic chocolate tin Blue Jeans Cable LC-1 RCA cables Amp: ProLogue PrimaLuna Two Belden 8471 equiv biwired Speakers: IPL Acoustics M3TL transmission line kit hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > My Zipp 2 (full size) still hasn't shipped ... purchase not yet revealed > ... 46GBP inc shipping from Brighton (assuming it turns up). That has AirPlay 2 so please report how it plays with the bridge VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
My Zipp 2 (full size) still hasn't shipped ... purchase not yet revealed ... 46GBP inc shipping from Brighton (assuming it turns up). Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > Id be interested to hear what new orders think of SQ I consider my new Zipp Mini to be more than adequate for the garden and ad-hoc around the house use. For £40 I am very happy. I have revealed it to my wife, she was impressed (phew!) hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
You can sync them through the Libratone app but I only have one so cant try it either way VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
... that is just thining about it from LMS side of things. Maybe you can use the AirPlay functions in iOS to set them as a stereo pair ... I think I remember Philippe saying that even though stereo pair is talked about as an Airplay 2 feature it actually worked with AirPlay 1 as well. I think wait for the definitive on this from Philippe ... so maybe ask in the AirPlay Bridge thread or link from there to here. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Id be interested to hear what new orders think of SQ VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > Is it possible to get stereo if I use 2 Zipp Minis with with AirPlay > bridge, or will it be dual mono? > > Thanks You can set up the 2 pseudo players in LMS to be left and right. Settings/Player/Audio I dont think the Zipp is mono though I think it has clever array of speakers to do some kind of stereo trickery. I may be wrong. Sounds great to me either way. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
You can experiment set the "Output Channel Mode" for the device ... (Left/Right/Mono) ... and see if it filters as you would hope LMS/Settings/Player/the airplay device/Audio If it does then you should be able to set one as left and one as right and then put them in a sync group ... might work. Would mean that if you wanted to have just one playing by itself then you would have to go back to the settings and make it Stereo (and have the device combine) or Mono (and let LMS/bridge? combine). Good experiment. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Is it possible to get stereo if I use 2 Zipp Minis with with AirPlay bridge, or will it be dual mono? Thanks hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > Thanks for the tips! I got it today. It is nicely made and the sound > quality is not bad, absolutely fine for the garden and more than loud > enough (to annoy the neighbours ;) ). > > The AirPlay bridge is working nicely, thank you phillippe_44. > > I did a little walkabout and my wi-fi range covers everywhere that I > might reasonably want it. It was interesting to hear how the speaker > sounds very different in different spaces (and in different positions in > those spaces). It is not so easy to experiment with speaker placement > with my main wired floorstanders!! > > My only concern with the Zipp is (unless I am missing something) that is > is dependent on an app for initial network set-up, and so is thus > dependent on the continuing support of the app by its dev. I am > sensitive to this as I have an original Sphero and Sphero R2D2 in the > house, both in fine mechanical condition... but Sphero no longer support > them. Both would be dead if it were not for the APKMirror, where the > apps can still be found... but at some point even these will cease to > work with future versions of Android. I guess the Squeezebox Radio has > a real advantage here. I presume that SqueezeAmp has browser or > SSH/Telnet config? You only really have to set it up once using the app so as long as you keep the app on your phone I cant see a problem. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > My Zipp 2 should arrive in a day or so ... Good luck with it! hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > This sort of device usually have a built-in Wireless Access Point and > web server for set-up. > https://support.libratone.com/hc/en-us/articles/204320952-Zipp-Zipp-Mini-Wi-Fi-setup-Windows-PC-Phone-BlackBerry- > . That's really nice to know, thank you! I can relax now! hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > > My only concern with the Zipp is (unless I am missing something) that is > is dependent on an app for initial network set-up, and so is thus > dependent on the continuing support of the app by its dev. This sort of device usually have a built-in Wireless Access Point and web server for set-up. https://support.libratone.com/hc/en-us/articles/204320952-Zipp-Zipp-Mini-Wi-Fi-setup-Windows-PC-Phone-BlackBerry- My Zipp 2 should arrive in a day or so ... Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
I just found the Zipp Mini for a bit less again 'here on Ebay' (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114578200341). They're doing Best Offer too. hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > That is a very good price! > The big brother version has excellent sound for its size. I'd expect > that to be pretty good too. > I use mine in Airplay mode with Philippe's bridge and I'd recommend that > mode as the best option if your WiFi reaches far enough into the > garden. > One tip. Disconnect your phone from Bluetooth (or temporarily switch off > on Phone) as it seems to take preference to AirPlay - I had a few > occasions where controlling on my phone via Material something else has > suddenly started playing! Thanks for the tips! I got it today. It is nicely made and the sound quality is not bad, absolutely fine for the garden and more than loud enough (to annoy the neighbours ;) ). The AirPlay bridge is working nicely, thank you phillippe_44. I did a little walkabout and my wi-fi range covers everywhere that I might reasonably want it. It was interesting to hear how the speaker sounds very different in different spaces (and in different positions in those spaces). It is not so easy to experiment with speaker placement with my main wired floorstanders!! My only concern with the Zipp is (unless I am missing something) that is is dependent on an app for initial network set-up, and so is thus dependent on the continuing support of the app by its dev. I am sensitive to this as I have an original Sphero and Sphero R2D2 in the house, both in fine mechanical condition... but Sphero no longer support them. Both would be dead if it were not for the APKMirror, where the apps can still be found... but at some point even these will cease to work with future versions of Android. I guess the Squeezebox Radio has a real advantage here. I presume that SqueezeAmp has browser or SSH/Telnet config? hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > In perusing Ebay I found 'these Zipp Minis' > (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Libratone-ZIPP-2-Mini-Smart-Wireless-Speaker-360-Sound-Wi-Fi-Bluetooth-/124556187706) > going for what seems to be a very good buy-it-now price. They seem to > have the same functionality as the full-size Zipp, but have less power > and a 3" instead of 4" driver. Reasonable reviews around though. That is a very good price! The big brother version has excellent sound for its size. I'd expect that to be pretty good too. I use mine in Airplay mode with Philippe's bridge and I'd recommend that mode as the best option if your WiFi reaches far enough into the garden. One tip. Disconnect your phone from Bluetooth (or temporarily switch off on Phone) as it seems to take preference to AirPlay - I had a few occasions where controlling on my phone via Material something else has suddenly started playing! VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > I use a Libratone Zipp as a portable speaker for use in the garden. It > is both Airplay and Bluetooth. I use it in Airplay mode with the Airplay > bridge and its great. In perusing Ebay I found 'these Zipp Minis' (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Libratone-ZIPP-2-Mini-Smart-Wireless-Speaker-360-Sound-Wi-Fi-Bluetooth-/124556187706) going for what seems to be a very good buy-it-now price. They seem to have the same functionality as the full-size Zipp, but have less power and a 3" instead of 4" driver. Reasonable reviews around though. hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Redrum wrote: > There are allot of radios on the US ebay and many offer overseas > shipping (not sure where you are located). All you have to do is swap > out the adaptor. > > I check in on ebay here is the US frequently and there is always an > abundance of radios. Touches and Booms are more rare (and seemingly more > desirable = higher price). The radios generally for for about $50 - $70 > USD. I have bought a few, use 2 and have 2 in storage. > > Jim I have now found a couple for auction on Ebay, thanks, I'll keep an eye on them... hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > Yes. Stuff at higher resolution than 16/44.1 will be transcoded by LMS philippe_44 wrote: > No, it will be transcoded by the bridge, not by LMS in that case Thank you both, that's useful to know. Airplay is definitely a good option for me then. hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > Yes. Stuff at higher resolution than 16/44.1 will be transcoded by LMS No, it will be transcoded by the bridge, not by LMS in that case LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > Thank you. Most of my content is CD rips (flacs) but I do have a few > hires downloads which would be nice to have working to avoid "friction > to the experience". 'This post' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105198-ANNOUNCE-AirPlay-Bridge-integrate-AirPlay-devices-with-LMS-(squeeze2raop)=846204=1#post846204) > from philippe_44 says his plugin "does decode ogg, ogf, ops, mp3, flac, > aac, alac, wav, pcm and aif, does the resample and then sends the audio > in AirPlay expected format (plain PCM or encoded ALAC)." Does that mean > it downsamples the higher res stuff to get it to work? Yes. Stuff at higher resolution than 16/44.1 will be transcoded by LMS VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > Ah, brilliant, thank you, that opens up my options a lot (as there are > not too many SB Radios on Ebay). There are allot of radios on the US ebay and many offer overseas shipping (not sure where you are located). All you have to do is swap out the adaptor. I check in on ebay here is the US frequently and there is always an abundance of radios. Touches and Booms are more rare (and seemingly more desirable = higher price). The radios generally for for about $50 - $70 USD. I have bought a few, use 2 and have 2 in storage. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > Philippes AirplayBridge ... is limited to 16/44.1. Thank you. Most of my content is CD rips (flacs) but I do have a few hires downloads which would be nice to have working to avoid "friction to the experience". 'This post' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105198-ANNOUNCE-AirPlay-Bridge-integrate-AirPlay-devices-with-LMS-(squeeze2raop)=846204=1#post846204) from philippe_44 says his plugin "does decode ogg, ogf, ops, mp3, flac, aac, alac, wav, pcm and aif, does the resample and then sends the audio in AirPlay expected format (plain PCM or encoded ALAC)." Does that mean it downsamples the higher res stuff to get it to work? hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > Ah, brilliant, thank you, that opens up my options a lot (as there are > not too many SB Radios on Ebay). Of the two the Airplay with Philippes AirplayBridge will just work. Will do gapless etc but is limited to 16/44.1. Which is an Airplay limitation The Bridge is Airplay 1 The Chromecast will do gapless in Flow mode but perhaps requires just a little bit more setting up. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
d6jg wrote: > For the Airplay/Chromecast option you dont need another Pi just the > appropriate plugin on existing LMS Ah, brilliant, thank you, that opens up my options a lot (as there are not too many SB Radios on Ebay). hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > We've got a whole herd of them but we keep them in cages. More > relevant, however, is that I do not like to venture too far from the > beer fridge, so range is not much of an issue ;) > > > Many thanks everybody for all the ideas. I'm liking the idea of an SB > Radio best at this point as it's all ready to go, and I could see it > being used around the house a lot. I'd forgotten all about them, so > thanks for that. I will see what I can find. > > A close second is the Airplay/Chromecast speaker option. It would mean > setting up another Pi with pCP but I've done a few so that is easy > enough. > > I wasn't aware of Squeezeamp, it looks like a great option for a future > DIY build, thanks. Similarly, a Pi Zero running pCp with hat DAC could > work well with an active portable speaker. The physical/casing side of > things would require thought and work though - "friction to the > experience" is something that definitely must be avoided to keep it > family-proof. > > I also found these, but I'm not sure they offer anything that a Pi Zero > W + hat DAC doesn't already do: > https://polyvection.com/en/product/dac32/ For the Airplay/Chromecast option you dont need another Pi just the appropriate plugin on existing LMS VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
The dac32 is using the same (in essence at least) software as SqueezeAMP but does not have a built in amplifier so you lose one potential benefit. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > if he does indeed have floating equines then it may well be large! We've got a whole herd of them but we keep them in cages. More relevant, however, is that I do not like to venture too far from the beer fridge, so range is not much of an issue ;) Many thanks everybody for all the ideas. I'm liking the idea of an SB Radio best at this point as it's all ready to go, and I could see it being used around the house a lot. I'd forgotten all about them, so thanks for that. I will see what I can find. A close second is the Airplay/Chromecast speaker option. It would mean setting up another Pi with pCP but I've done a few so that is easy enough. I wasn't aware of Squeezeamp, it looks like a great option for a future DIY build, thanks. Similarly, a Pi Zero running pCp with hat DAC could work well with an active portable speaker. The physical/casing side of things would require thought and work though - "friction to the experience" is something that definitely must be avoided to keep it family-proof. I also found these, but I'm not sure they offer anything that a Pi Zero W + hat DAC doesn't already do: https://polyvection.com/en/product/dac32/ hoverdonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Redrum wrote: > A SB Radio with a battery? I use mine all of the time outside, get a > full afternoon and more on a charge, and the sound is quite good for a > little box. > > JimSame here.. SB Radio with battery is excellent.. It has strong WiFi and battery life is amazing.. I have two Radios and one of them run battery from 2012 still strong 6h + of playback.. 2nd one is 2nd had so don't know it's age but might be same.. You can buy 3rd party battery packs or build your own 3x Squeezebox Touch, 4x Squeezebox Radio, Squeezelite (RPi 3B with HiFiBerry DAC+Pro on OSMC), Material Skin Apk, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 with Material Skin (Docker in DS218+) Jaca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58187 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
markiii wrote: > i put some ceiling speakers in the soffit boards and then have a PCP > install with hifiberry amp driving them Good idea for a patio area next to the building. "hoverdonkey" hasn't told how long his garden is ... but if he does indeed have floating equines then it may well be large! Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
i put some ceiling speakers in the soffit boards and then have a PCP install with hifiberry amp driving them works well PiCorePlayer 7.1 on Allo Digi One Signaturewith (Lounge) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with pi official touchscreen and hifiberry Dig+ (Office) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with pi official touchscreen and hifiberry DAC+(Kitchen) Radio (Bedroom) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with pi official touchscreen and USB DAC (Bedroom) Squeezelite=x (Garage) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2) LMS 8.1 on DIY Unraid 6 Server (i5) Squeeze user since the SB1 markiii's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > Hi > > > would prefer the easy life for this project if poss. // Any other > suggestions welcome. A SB Radio with a battery? I use mine all of the time outside, get a full afternoon and more on a charge, and the sound is quite good for a little box. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
hoverdonkey wrote: > Hi > > > It is too early to say whether or not Summer will come to the UK this > year, but I like to be optimistic and want to get portable speaker > device ready to use in the garden, just in case. > Any other suggestions welcome. There are other ways to annoy ones neighbours, :):):):p:p ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Paul Webster wrote: > Would still need a player on your phone though ... Material skin isn't > one - plus plenty of battery life in your phone and if you disappear off > to the fridge to get another drink then don't forget to leave your phone > with the family so that the music does not stop. Sorry, I forgot to mention I use the Squeezeplayer app which registers the phone with LMS as a player. LMS Material app used for control and music beamed to the speaker (a Logitech Boom bluetooth speaker ironically). I leave my phone on the table because when I wander off my wife will immediately want to turn the volume down! As my son said to me "Dad, you drive way too fast, turn the music down you are deafening me". I punched the air after that one! Lounge: Transporter>Audio Synthesis DAX Decade>Audio Research LS22>Krell FPB300>Wilson Benesch Act 1's + 2 x Velodyne SPL1000 sub's Kitchen: SB3>Topping DAC>Arcam Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub, Joggler controller Office: DAC32>Acoustic Energy AE1 Active's, Joggler controller Garage: Boom>QAcoustics 7000s subwoofer Bedroom: Radio Shed: Radio Workshop: Boom Garden 1: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Garden 2: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
pCP has a really nice bluetooth support option, as Paul says. The drawback, for me, is that you have to go back to the specific host pCP prefs to re-connect your BT speaker if you turn it off or use it elsewhere. That adds a bit of friction to the experience that I dislike and that others in the household find wholly untenable. I'd also love to learn that there's an easier way. It would be neat if there were a way to reconnect BT devices from LMS rather than the individual pCP prefs page, which would reduce that friction. As it is, I found that a true LMS player was a better UX overall because it just appears in the LMS player list when powered on, unlink my BT devices. In my case, a Squeezebox Radio, but soon I will play with a SqueezeAMP. benh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6732 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Would still need a player on your phone though ... Material skin isn't one - plus plenty of battery life in your phone and if you disappear off to the fridge to get another drink then don't forget to leave your phone with the family so that the music does not stop. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
I use a Libratone Zipp as a portable speaker for use in the garden. It is both Airplay and Bluetooth. I use it in Airplay mode with the Airplay bridge and its great. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
Use the LMS 'Material' app on your mobile phone and connect your phone via Bluetooth to your speaker. You have full remote control and volume adjustment. Lounge: Transporter>Audio Synthesis DAX Decade>Audio Research LS22>Krell FPB300>Wilson Benesch Act 1's + 2 x Velodyne SPL1000 sub's Kitchen: SB3>Topping DAC>Arcam Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub, Joggler controller Office: DAC32>Acoustic Energy AE1 Active's, Joggler controller Garage: Boom>QAcoustics 7000s subwoofer Bedroom: Radio Shed: Radio Workshop: Boom Garden 1: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Garden 2: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Speaker for garden. Bluetooth?
pCP can drive a bluetooth speaker using the built-in Bluetooth ... but it might work better with a Bluetooth dongle instead of the internal one. However, Bluetooth does not travel very far ... so how far away is your garden listening point from your RPi ? A battery powered AirPlay or Chromecast device might be better since they run over WiFi which will travel further (and use the batteries faster). Another route is SqueezeAMP embedded inside a passive speaker and powered by recharagable batteries. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114356 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
