Re: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the Playstore (Walter Bender)

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi Devin,

I don't think that anyone has pushed MusicBlocks to F-Droid. Let me know if
I'm wrong.
Just checked on the app, the MB version is 3.xx even though the app is the
same as 2020.
Being on F-Droid would be cool, I agree.
I assume that it just shows a webview of the current website, even though I
might be wrong.

- Sumit

ᐧ

On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 6:07 PM Devin Ulibarri 
wrote:

> Hi Favour and Sumit,
>
> Please let us know the status of this.
>
> The Google Play page says that MB was last updated "Oct 1, 2020." But
> Walter seems to think that that version always points to the main
> branch. Is that true? Is there anything else that might need to be updated?
>
> At the moment, I don't see MB in F-Droid
> (https://search.f-droid.org/?q=musicblocks=en)
>
> Best,
> Devin
>
> Sumit Srivastava:
> > Thanks for your comments.
> >
> > F-Droid is on the way.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:37 AM Lionel Laské  > <mailto:lionel.la...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sound like you rely on browser cache that could be risky.
> >
> > Why not package the whole HTML/JavaScript code into the package then
> > use as start page of WebView file:///index.html instead of
> > https://musicblocks.sugarlabs.org/
> > That's what we've done with Sugarizer Android package.
> >
> > Another suggestion: will be nice to add Music Blocks on F-Droid
> > store too (https://f-droid.org/).
> > F-Droid is a store for Free Open Source Software for Android and it
> > will make sense to be there too.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Lionel.
> >
> >
> >
> > Le mer. 22 juil. 2020 à 22:26, Sumit Srivastava
> > mailto:sumitsrisu...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
> >
> > Hi Samson,
> >
> > It works offline if you allow it to connect once after
> > downloading the APK, which seems good because you already have
> > internet access while accessing the play store. Yes, it's linked
> > to the website but is accessible offline.
> >
> >
> > Try this:
> >
> > Install
> > Load once
> > Turn off the internet
> > Close app
> > Restart the app
> > App should work now, please post if it doesn't.
> >
> > Best,
> > Sumit
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:26 AM Walter Bender
> > mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Oh. We need to fix that. @Favour Kelvin
> > <mailto:favourkelvi...@gmail.com>
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:50 PM Samson Goddy
> > mailto:samsongo...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Awesome job,
> >
> > I just tested it on my tablet running Android 10 and
> > It doesn't run offline, the APK is linked to the
> > website. But this is a right step to something better.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:42 PM Lionel Laské
> > mailto:lionel.la...@gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Good job.
> >
> > BTW I'm surprised that the package size is only 1Mb.
> > Is it linked to the web site? Is it able to work
> > offline ?
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >   Lionel.
> >
> >
> >
> > Le mar. 21 juil. 2020 à 18:00,
> >  > <mailto:sugar-devel-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org>> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:21:59 -0400
> > From: Walter Bender  > <mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com>>
> > To: Sugar-dev Devel
> >  > <mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>>
> > Subject: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the
> Playstore
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >  uzx...@mail.gmail.com
> > <mailto:uzx...@mail.gmail.com>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8&

Re: [Sugar-devel] A show of excitement and source of motivation for everyone here

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi,

I agree that I should have credited you for that answer. Will credit you
appropriately in the answer about Grayscale.

Let me know if you've any updates that I could make in any other comments
(like browse comment). I'll happily do so with credit.

Thanks,
Sumit

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 1:15 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 09:23:18PM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > Just came across this one-year-old comment of mine on a YouTube
> > video titled "The Coolest Netbook You’ve Forgotten About: The OLPC
> > XO-1" when someone commented on my comment about 2 hours ago. [Link
> > to the video: [1]https:// youtu.be/UPP4ClRmVik]
> >
> > I thought that I'd share it all of you on the mailing list since it
> > shows that people are still excited to hear about the cool stuff
> > that the people here have built and the impact you're delivering
> > each and every day. All of you are awesome!
> >
> > Sharing the whole YouTube comment transcript here, without any
> > editing:
>
> Thanks.  Reviewed.
>
> Your answer about Browse is out of date.  You probably used Wiki pages
> that have not been updated for over a decade.  Browse uses WebKit now.
>
> When you copy text written by someone else, please do credit them
> appropriately.
>
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-June/056969.html
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md#be-considerate
>
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[Sugar-devel] A show of excitement and source of motivation for everyone here

[Sumit Srivastava]

Just came across this one-year-old comment of mine on a YouTube video
titled "The Coolest Netbook You’ve Forgotten About: The OLPC XO-1" when
someone commented on my comment about 2 hours ago. [Link to the video:
https://youtu.be/UPP4ClRmVik]

I thought that I'd share it all of you on the mailing list since it shows
that people are still excited to hear about the cool stuff that the people
here have built and the impact you're delivering each and every day. All of
you are awesome!

Sharing the whole YouTube comment transcript here, without any editing:




Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
Hi, I'm from SugarLabs, the organisation that makes the software that OLPC
laptops (and a lot more devices) run on.

Happy to answer any questions. Please ask.

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generic Josh number 96
generic Josh number 96
1 year ago
Do you know if the display is switching modes with the greyscale thing?
Very curious how the screen works

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Alex
Alex
1 year ago
Have the laptops been upgraded over the years or have they stayed with the
same exact hardware as initially? Eg bigger storage, Ram, a touchscreen,
etc?

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Sumit Srivastava
Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
@generic Josh number 96 I have a better resource for you to read up on this
display:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display

It serves a good intro to the OLPC display.

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Sumit Srivastava
Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
@generic Josh number 96 Thanks for asking.

A kernel configuration file is used to select colour or grayscale
mode in the driver, and thus the display controller ASIC.  This is in
the kernel sources.

The keyboard shim detects brightness control keys and manages the
backlight power.  When the backlight is turned off, the grayscale mode
is enabled.  When the backlight is turned on, the grayscale mode is
disabled.  This is in the keyboard shim sources.

On the XO-1.75 and XO-4 models, a reverse biased red LED in the same
SMT package as the green storage LED is used as an ambient light
sensor.  The power management daemon (powerd) detects high ambient
light and turns off the backlight and turns on the grayscale mode.
The backlight is turned off to save power, and increase running time
on battery.  This is in the powerd sources.

However, without any change to backlight brightness or mode switching,
full sunlight does appear as greyscale, because the human eye can't
discern the small amount of colour emitted by the backlight compared
to the large amount of white light reflected from the sun.

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Sumit Srivastava
Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
@Alex  The hardware has been regularly updated with release of newer models.

For example, XO-4 (the latest one) has a touchscreen variant and improved
hardware.

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Alex
Alex
1 year ago
What engine is the SugarXO browser based on?

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Sumit Srivastava
Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
@Alex The simple browser also called browse activity is implemented using
HulaHop library and uses Gecko rendering engine(same as Firefox). Other
browsers available for XO laptops are Opera and Firefox. :)

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Alex
Alex
1 year ago
@Sumit Srivastava Really??? Opera and Firefox can run on these laptops???
I'm impressed!

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Sumit Srivastava
Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
@Alex these laptops are not underpowered, they're just aimed at children
who want to learn, and appropriately capable to do so. :)

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velleda
velleda
1 year ago
Exactly why do you need a developer key to boot things other than official
OS builds, and why does it take 24 hours to get one?

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Sumit Srivastava
Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
@velleda because this was designed with security and antitheft in mind, and
it's pretty secure, along with being fun to play with.

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Sumit Srivastava
Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
@velleda also, thank you for asking. Here's a link to your question, if you
want to read a long explanation:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_key_philosophy

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TheSola10
TheSola10
1 year ago
Would it be interesting to switch OLPC to Silverblue/OSTree for increased
reliability and less required maintenance?



Sumit Srivastava
Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
@TheSola10 Sugar OS is designed specifically with young children in mind.
All our decisions, designs, usability considerations are made with that
thing in mind. I don't think any other organisation would want to do that
with OS.

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James Livesey
James Livesey
1 year ago
@NiggaNig420 TOONZ They're giving their best efforts to help. They may or
may not be part of Sugar Labs (and in their defence it's hard to verify),
but they are providing people with helpful answers, so please don't be so
rude!

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Kintaro oe
Kintaro oe
1 year ago
any way to unlock the bios? me and my father tried to install xp countless
times but the bios didnt allow us to, it would make my childhood dream
finally complete

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Sumit Srivastava
Sumit Srivastava
1 year ago
@Kintaro oeyes, you can install other operating sys

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Music Blocks v3.3

[Sumit Srivastava]

High praises for all the students for doing the amazing work and huge
thanks to Walter for guiding all of us!

- Sumit

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020, 5:42 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

> V3.3 has just been released. Read all about it here [1].Thanks to the
> efforts of Anindya Kundu (@meganindya) Aviral Gangwar (@aviral243), and
> Saksham Mrig (@sksum), we have made tremendous progress on Music Blocks
> this summer. (Tip-of-the-hat to the GSoC mentors as well: Favor, Sumit, and
> Devin.)
>
> enjoy.
>
> -walter
>
> [1] https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/releases/tag/v3.3
> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Found this interesting python package to for activity compatibility

[Sumit Srivastava]

But isn't that already possible by porting? Someone can port to py3 and
maintain only that.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:49 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> So that they can continue to maintain one source code that will
> run on either Python 2 or Python 3.
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 05:33:47AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > If there's only little advantage for porting to six over porting to py3,
> why
> > are people still using six?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:25 AM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > No, we're not using it everywhere.  It is easier to port to Python 3
> > than to port using Six, and there's little advantage to having an
> > activity source code compatible with both versions of Python.
> >
> > For new installs of Sugar, or when using Fedora, Debian, or Ubuntu,
> > only Python 3 activities are used.  This is because those
> > distributions have chosen for cost reasons to remove support rather
> > than take over security maintenance of Python from the Python
> > Foundation.  (Red Hat Enterprise Linux and the other paid enterprise
> > Linux distributions have kept Python 2 available.)
> >
> > For OLPC OS, both Python 2 and Python 3 activities can be used.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 04:42:36AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > > Awesome! Are we using six everywhere?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 4:41 AM James Cameron <[1][2]
> qu...@laptop.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, well done, it is very useful.  We have used Six on the
> Sugar
> > > Toolkit so that Python 2 activities can continue to run.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 01:10:06AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava
> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I think this might be useful for making activities
> compatible. I
> > found
> > > this
> > > > while reading the codebase of a software I was using.
> > > >
> > > > [1][2][3]https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > > > [2][3][4]https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sumit
> > > > [t]ᐧ
> > > >
> > > > References:
> > > >
> > > > [1] [4][5]https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > > > [2] [5][6]https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > >
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> > >
> > > --
> > > James Cameron
> > > [8][9]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > [1] mailto:[10]qu...@laptop.org
> > > [2] [11]https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > > [3] [12]https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > > [4] [13]https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > > [5] [14]https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > > [6] mailto:[15]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [7] [16]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [8] [17]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > [18]http://quozl.netrek.org/
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [2] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [3] https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > [4] https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > [5] https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > [6] https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > [7] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [8] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [9] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [10] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [11] https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > [12] https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > [13] https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > [14] https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > [15] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [16] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [17] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [18] http://quozl.netrek.org/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Found this interesting python package to for activity compatibility

[Sumit Srivastava]

If there's only little advantage for porting to six over porting to py3,
why are people still using six?

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:25 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> No, we're not using it everywhere.  It is easier to port to Python 3
> than to port using Six, and there's little advantage to having an
> activity source code compatible with both versions of Python.
>
> For new installs of Sugar, or when using Fedora, Debian, or Ubuntu,
> only Python 3 activities are used.  This is because those
> distributions have chosen for cost reasons to remove support rather
> than take over security maintenance of Python from the Python
> Foundation.  (Red Hat Enterprise Linux and the other paid enterprise
> Linux distributions have kept Python 2 available.)
>
> For OLPC OS, both Python 2 and Python 3 activities can be used.
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 04:42:36AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > Awesome! Are we using six everywhere?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 4:41 AM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, well done, it is very useful.  We have used Six on the Sugar
> > Toolkit so that Python 2 activities can continue to run.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 01:10:06AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I think this might be useful for making activities compatible. I
> found
> > this
> > > while reading the codebase of a software I was using.
> > >
> > > [1][2]https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > > [2][3]https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sumit
> > > [t]ᐧ
> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > [1] [4]https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > > [2] [5]https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> >
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> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
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> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [2] https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > [3] https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > [4] https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > [5] https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> > [6] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [7] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Found this interesting python package to for activity compatibility

[Sumit Srivastava]

Awesome! Are we using six everywhere?

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 4:41 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Yes, well done, it is very useful.  We have used Six on the Sugar
> Toolkit so that Python 2 activities can continue to run.
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 01:10:06AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I think this might be useful for making activities compatible. I found
> this
> > while reading the codebase of a software I was using.
> >
> > [1]https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > [2]https://github.com/benjaminp/six
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sumit
> > [t]ᐧ
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] https://six.readthedocs.io/
> > [2] https://github.com/benjaminp/six
>
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[Sugar-devel] Found this interesting python package to for activity compatibility

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi all,

I think this might be useful for making activities compatible. I found this
while reading the codebase of a software I was using.

https://six.readthedocs.io/
https://github.com/benjaminp/six

Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Music Blocks update

[Sumit Srivastava]

Great work @aviral243, @sksum, and @meganindya!
ᐧ

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 2:07 AM Walter Bender 
wrote:

> We released v3.2 to reflect the work done to date by the GSoC interns. You
> can view the release notes at [1].
>
> enjoy.
>
> -walter
>
> [1] https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/releases/tag/v3.2
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Tom Gilliard

[Sumit Srivastava]

Extremely sad to hear about this news.

- Sumit

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 2:01 PM Vaibhav Aren  wrote:

> Very sad to hear. He was always around in IRC. Will miss him.
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:26 PM Hrishi Patel 
> wrote:
>
>> That's so sad. He helped me a lot in testing.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 11:12 AM Jaskirat Singh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Very sad to hear that.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020, 8:44 am Dave Crossland,  wrote:
>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the Playstore (Walter Bender)

[Sumit Srivastava]

Thanks for your comments.

F-Droid is on the way.




On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 2:37 AM Lionel Laské  wrote:

>
> Sound like you rely on browser cache that could be risky.
>
> Why not package the whole HTML/JavaScript code into the package then use
> as start page of WebView file:///index.html instead of
> https://musicblocks.sugarlabs.org/
> That's what we've done with Sugarizer Android package.
>
> Another suggestion: will be nice to add Music Blocks on F-Droid store too (
> https://f-droid.org/).
> F-Droid is a store for Free Open Source Software for Android and it will
> make sense to be there too.
>
> Regards.
>
> Lionel.
>
>
>
> Le mer. 22 juil. 2020 à 22:26, Sumit Srivastava 
> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Samson,
>>
>> It works offline if you allow it to connect once after downloading the
>> APK, which seems good because you already have internet access while
>> accessing the play store. Yes, it's linked to the website but is accessible
>> offline.
>>
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> Install
>> Load once
>> Turn off the internet
>> Close app
>> Restart the app
>> App should work now, please post if it doesn't.
>>
>> Best,
>> Sumit
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:26 AM Walter Bender 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh. We need to fix that. @Favour Kelvin 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:50 PM Samson Goddy 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Awesome job,
>>>>
>>>> I just tested it on my tablet running Android 10 and It doesn't run
>>>> offline, the APK is linked to the website. But this is a right step to
>>>> something better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:42 PM Lionel Laské 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good job.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW I'm surprised that the package size is only 1Mb.
>>>>> Is it linked to the web site? Is it able to work offline ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Lionel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le mar. 21 juil. 2020 à 18:00, <
>>>>> sugar-devel-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:21:59 -0400
>>>>>> From: Walter Bender 
>>>>>> To: Sugar-dev Devel 
>>>>>> Subject: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the Playstore
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> >>>>> uzx...@mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to the efforts of Favour Kelvin, Music Blocks is now in the
>>>>>> Google
>>>>>> Play Store!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=my.musicblock.sugarlab
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks Favour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the Playstore (Walter Bender)

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi Samson,

It works offline if you allow it to connect once after downloading the APK,
which seems good because you already have internet access while accessing
the play store. Yes, it's linked to the website but is accessible offline.


Try this:

Install
Load once
Turn off the internet
Close app
Restart the app
App should work now, please post if it doesn't.

Best,
Sumit


On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:26 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

> Oh. We need to fix that. @Favour Kelvin 
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:50 PM Samson Goddy 
> wrote:
>
>> Awesome job,
>>
>> I just tested it on my tablet running Android 10 and It doesn't run
>> offline, the APK is linked to the website. But this is a right step to
>> something better.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:42 PM Lionel Laské 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Good job.
>>>
>>> BTW I'm surprised that the package size is only 1Mb.
>>> Is it linked to the web site? Is it able to work offline ?
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>   Lionel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mar. 21 juil. 2020 à 18:00, 
>>> a écrit :
>>>

 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:21:59 -0400
 From: Walter Bender 
 To: Sugar-dev Devel 
 Subject: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the Playstore
 Message-ID:
 >>> uzx...@mail.gmail.com>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

 Thanks to the efforts of Favour Kelvin, Music Blocks is now in the
 Google
 Play Store!!!

 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=my.musicblock.sugarlab

 thanks Favour.

 regards.

 -walter

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Re: [Sugar-devel] MIDI input in Music Blocks

[Sumit Srivastava]

Well done Saksham!

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 4:13 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

> One fun advance in GSOC is that Music Blocks now takes Midi input, so you
> can write code by playing a Midi keyboard. I finally had a chance to test
> it today -- my grandson has a Midi-2-USB cable for his electronic keyboard.
> Worked great.
>
> Tip of the hat to Saksahm.
>
> -walter
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOC-20 MB100Issues | Update - 16th June

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi Saksham,

Can we meet sometime today or tomorrow for a comprehensive update?

Best,
Sumit

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 8:24 AM Sumit Srivastava 
wrote:

> Awesome, thanks for the update! I hope we're able to see lot more
> enhancements and fixes from you.
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 5:33 AM Saksham Mrig 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Hope you are doing well and staying safe.
>> Sharing updates regarding my project -
>>
>> *Major enhancements :*
>> * I have been working on features like midi and beat blocks which would
>> be deployed soon.
>> * I have added a grid display block to extend functionality of the newly
>> added grids.
>>
>> *Upcoming Plan :*
>> * I am planning to get as many bugs solved in the next couple of weeks as
>> possible.
>> * Also I will try to improve the temperament widget this week ,as
>> discussed with my mentors.
>>
>> I have updated my github project accordingly-
>> https://github.com/sksum/musicblocks/projects/1
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOC-20 MB100Issues | Update - 16th June

[Sumit Srivastava]

Awesome, thanks for the update! I hope we're able to see lot more
enhancements and fixes from you.

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 5:33 AM Saksham Mrig 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> Hope you are doing well and staying safe.
> Sharing updates regarding my project -
>
> *Major enhancements :*
> * I have been working on features like midi and beat blocks which would be
> deployed soon.
> * I have added a grid display block to extend functionality of the newly
> added grids.
>
> *Upcoming Plan :*
> * I am planning to get as many bugs solved in the next couple of weeks as
> possible.
> * Also I will try to improve the temperament widget this week ,as
> discussed with my mentors.
>
> I have updated my github project accordingly-
> https://github.com/sksum/musicblocks/projects/1
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOC Community Bonding Period - MB100Issues

[Sumit Srivastava]

Thanks for the update, Saksham!

On Sat, May 30, 2020, 2:52 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

> Thanks for the update.
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:07 PM Saksham Mrig 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi there ,
>> Since the Community bonding period is almost over, I would like to update
>> everyone on my project's progress .
>> I have had daily meetings with the musicblocks group , and weekly
>> meetings with Sumit. We discussed about new note class , "on every beat
>> block", midi input/access and other issues in MB. Daily meetings consist of
>> updates on our progress and any challenges we are facing. Both Devin and
>> Walter give their input on our proposed fixes. Walter also clarifies any
>> doubts we have in the codebase,
>>
>> Some of the issues that I have worked on -
>>
>>- G_5 plays too short #1973
>>- Default Strong and Weak for Common Meters #2253
>>- A forgiving broken 'pitch' block #1873
>>- scroll issue in palette
>>
>> Major Issues I plan to work on - : 1 June - 7 June  ( Week 1 )
>>
>>- musickeyboard only saves default synth #1860
>>- Proper placing of events for Lilypond #2233
>>- "Hover" as a sensor event #2221
>>- Accept MIDI input  #1899
>>
>> I have made a github project (
>> https://github.com/sksum/musicblocks/projects/1)
>> to keep track of my progress , I will be updating it regularly with
>> new milestones.
>> --
>> - Saksham
>>
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks v3.1 GSoC Bonding Period Release

[Sumit Srivastava]

Congratulations!

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 7:31 PM Walter Bender  wrote:

> We pushed out a new release [1] based on the work done during the Bonding
> Period. Thanks to all who contributed.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> [1] https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/releases/tag/v3.1
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] No electricity and very limited internet

[Sumit Srivastava]

I'm aware of the situation, please stay safe.
These are uncertain times and we completely understand that.

- Sumit

On Thu, May 21, 2020, 12:19 PM Anindya Kundu  wrote:

> I am situated in one of the areas badly affected by the super cyclone that
> hit the eastern part of India last evening.
>
> Even though I live in an urban area, there is significant damage around.
> Several trees and electric lines have been uprooted, vehicles and roads are
> affected; external features of many buildings, like glass windows and water
> tanks, are damaged.
>
> There was a big transformer explosion 3kms from where I live, and there's
> been no electricity since 7pm last evening. It's the same in different
> places of the city.
>
> I'm not quite sure, but the electricity should be restored by today or
> tomorrow. However, since it's quite common here to have broadband fibre
> cables stretched through poles instead of underground, those may be damaged
> too, and would take a longer time to get fixed: maybe further aggravated by
> the COVID situation. Wireless reception is very poor too - barely loading
> webpages, if at all.
>
> Hence, I would unfortunately not be able to join the meetings until things
> come in place. I'll try to continue text based communication from the
> phone, once the network revives. However, the battery will die soon, and so
> there's a lot of uncertainty until electricity is restored. I'll reach back
> when things are normal, hopefully in a couple of days or two.
>
> Thanks.
>
> *- Anindya Kundu*
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Re: [Sugar-devel] happy birthday Sugar Labs

[Sumit Srivastava]

Whoohoo!
ᐧ

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:17 PM Vipul Gupta 
wrote:

>
>
>
>
> @vipulgupta2048
>
> On Fri 15 May, 2020, 6:07 PM Walter Bender, 
> wrote:
>
>> :)
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly Progress Blogs of GSoC

[Sumit Srivastava]

I agree with James.

On Sat, May 9, 2020, 3:19 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Thanks.  I've been careful not to mention blogging until now.
>
> Please use mailing list instead of a blog.  Use a shortened project
> name in the subject.  If composing mail is a problem, find a better
> mail client.
>
> Lionel and I agreed we would not require a student to host a blog.
> (On 5th May, Lionel, Walter, and I had a discussion about student
> blogging.  We considered whether a blog was needed or helpful.  Nobody
> else at Sugar Labs blogs about their work at Sugar Labs, so we have no
> standard to hold up.  Blogs haven't facilitated or concentrated
> discussion.  Blogs can be edited.  Blogs don't stay available.  Blogs
> are a lot of work that is sometimes not seen or used.)
>
> Please check with your mentor if they want you to use a blog, or some
> other method like Wiki or mail.  Lionel told me Sugarizer team will
> use Slack for this, with a weekly summary to mailing list.
>
> Mentors, please think about whether you want your student to spend the
> time writing a blog.  Tell your student what your decision is.
>
> While it is a useful skill, it is not a necessary skill for a
> developer.  You won't get as much engagement as you will get with
> mailing list posting.
>
> On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 07:56:01PM +0530, Aviral Gangwar wrote:
> > Hello James,
> >
> > Could you please help me out with this.
> >
> > Which service do you recommend for writing the blogs that also complies
> with
> > the community standards? I wanted to run through you if it was feasible
> to use
> > a separate service such as [1]Medium or use a wiki page instead. ( Or
> any other
> > service you could suggest )
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] https://medium.com/
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly Progress Blogs of GSoC

[Sumit Srivastava]

Medium has been pushing for a paywall lately, which means it limits what
you can see if you're not a subscribed member.

Even though there are ways to get around the paywall, I still would highly
recommend not using Medium so that it can be available to the wider
community.

Yes, GitHub pages (GitHub.io) are a nice alternative, easy to host and
needs almost no maintenance.

Feel free to suggest any more alternatives.



On Fri, May 8, 2020, 11:51 PM Saumya Mishra <2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in> wrote:

> Hello Aviral,
>
> I just looked at previous year projects blogs , Most of them were using
> Medium and also one had used github.io. I guess any of them will work
> fine and it depends on our choice.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:56 PM Aviral Gangwar 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello James,
>>
>> Could you please help me out with this.
>>
>> Which service do you recommend for writing the blogs that also complies
>> with the community standards? I wanted to run through you if it was
>> feasible to use a separate service such as Medium  or
>> use a wiki page instead. ( Or any other service you could suggest )
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to build app store for python 3 activities

[Sumit Srivastava]

You have my respect for thinking of contributing irrespective of GSoC.

Hope to see you as a long term contributor.

- Sumit

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 8:54 PM  wrote:

> Yes Sumit, you understood it correctly. I wish to contribute regardless of
> being selected in GSoC. I have submitted proposal before the deadline. It's
> submitted with different email alias but with same domain name (different
> address is used for mailing list just in case if it gets picked up by spam
> bots).
>
> I request everyone who can, to read/test and give feedback on work as I
> share weekly. I also request someone experienced in Sugar to mentor me
> continuously on this project with aspects such as discussing design
> decisions, reviewing code, explaining or giving pointers on Sugar
> projects/codebase where needed etc.
>
> Regards,
> Manish
>
>
> Apr 13, 2020, 03:34 by sumitsrisu...@gmail.com:
>
> I thought that you wanted to work on it regardless of GSoC.
>
> Note that period to submit a new application for GSoC 2020 has passed.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 10:59 PM Sumit Srivastava 
> wrote:
>
> This seems awesome.
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 6:36 PM  wrote:
>
> Unified App Store
>
> Once the app store is built with all the specified requirements, we can
> with minimal effort turn it into the unified app store for all activities
> including python 2 (though all would be ported to python 3), JavaScript and
> those (if any) written in other languages. Based on user-agent we can
> decide:
>
>- Sugar OS - all activities including JS written for Sugar and
>Sugarizer
>- Old Sugar OS - python 2 activities (was there any support to run JS
>written activities?)
>- All other - Sugarizer activities unless toggled to show all
>
> This combined with building native app store (again with minor
> modification to web app store) which is geared only towards students for
> searching, browsing, installing and uninstalling apps would provide single
> app store codebase for entire platform.
>
> Please provide your comments on the idea. If idea is supported by the
> community than I can work towards building it.
>
>
> Regards,
> Manish
>
>
>
>
> Apr 12, 2020, 01:18 by su...@radii.dev:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I wish to build app store for python 3 activities
> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2020.md#sugar-app-store-for-python-3-activities-aslov4>.
> For this I would like to inquire exact requirements of the project from the
> mentors and community at large.
>
> Below is my current understanding of project. Please read through it and
> correct where these are wrong. After it are some questions to answer to
> further improve my understanding. Some of these are merely more elaborate
> rewording of requirements specified on website
> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2020.md#sugar-app-store-for-python-3-activities-aslov4>.
> It is meant to detect possible misunderstanding that I may have from
> reading very brief one-line requirements.
>
> After few responses for this mail, a draft requirements document will be
> mailed for feedback before final requirements specification.
> Objective
>
>- The objective of app store is to provide a one-stop platform for
>students to browse or search and download activities to their system. It is
>expected than once the app store is built, students would not have to
>search for activities over internet, on GitHub or on wiki and download from
>there.
>- Sugar will use app store to automatically upgrade newer version of
>activities.
>
> Users of app store
>
>- *Students*: search and browse app store for activities and download
>them if not already installed.
>- *Trusted developers*: add and modify activities to app store via SSH
>and than check them on app store. These are trusted developers and not all
>the developers. Their role would be similar to package managers for
>distros. That is, most of the times, the developer who built activity would
>not be the one who uploads it but request trusted developer to grant access
>or upload themselve.
>- *Sugar desktop environment/OS*: check for current version on app
>store and if new version found than download and upgrade activities on
>local machine.
>
> User-interface
>
>- The user interface/frontend of app store would be catering to
>students primarily and therefore must be built keeping them in mind rather
>than developers. But developers would still use it (or not?), therefore
>there would be some consideration of them and providing information
>relevant to them such as version of app, size, d

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to build app store for python 3 activities

[Sumit Srivastava]

I thought that you wanted to work on it regardless of GSoC.

Note that period to submit a new application for GSoC 2020 has passed.


On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 10:59 PM Sumit Srivastava 
wrote:

> This seems awesome.
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 6:36 PM  wrote:
>
>> Unified App Store
>>
>> Once the app store is built with all the specified requirements, we can
>> with minimal effort turn it into the unified app store for all activities
>> including python 2 (though all would be ported to python 3), JavaScript and
>> those (if any) written in other languages. Based on user-agent we can
>> decide:
>>
>>- Sugar OS - all activities including JS written for Sugar and
>>Sugarizer
>>- Old Sugar OS - python 2 activities (was there any support to run JS
>>written activities?)
>>- All other - Sugarizer activities unless toggled to show all
>>
>> This combined with building native app store (again with minor
>> modification to web app store) which is geared only towards students for
>> searching, browsing, installing and uninstalling apps would provide single
>> app store codebase for entire platform.
>>
>> Please provide your comments on the idea. If idea is supported by the
>> community than I can work towards building it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Manish
>>
>>
>> Apr 12, 2020, 01:18 by su...@radii.dev:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I wish to build app store for python 3 activities
>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2020.md#sugar-app-store-for-python-3-activities-aslov4>.
>> For this I would like to inquire exact requirements of the project from the
>> mentors and community at large.
>>
>> Below is my current understanding of project. Please read through it and
>> correct where these are wrong. After it are some questions to answer to
>> further improve my understanding. Some of these are merely more elaborate
>> rewording of requirements specified on website
>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2020.md#sugar-app-store-for-python-3-activities-aslov4>.
>> It is meant to detect possible misunderstanding that I may have from
>> reading very brief one-line requirements.
>>
>> After few responses for this mail, a draft requirements document will be
>> mailed for feedback before final requirements specification.
>> Objective
>>
>>- The objective of app store is to provide a one-stop platform for
>>students to browse or search and download activities to their system. It 
>> is
>>expected than once the app store is built, students would not have to
>>search for activities over internet, on GitHub or on wiki and download 
>> from
>>there.
>>- Sugar will use app store to automatically upgrade newer version of
>>activities.
>>
>> Users of app store
>>
>>- *Students*: search and browse app store for activities and download
>>them if not already installed.
>>- *Trusted developers*: add and modify activities to app store via
>>SSH and than check them on app store. These are trusted developers and not
>>all the developers. Their role would be similar to package managers for
>>distros. That is, most of the times, the developer who built activity 
>> would
>>not be the one who uploads it but request trusted developer to grant 
>> access
>>or upload themselve.
>>- *Sugar desktop environment/OS*: check for current version on app
>>store and if new version found than download and upgrade activities on
>>local machine.
>>
>> User-interface
>>
>>- The user interface/frontend of app store would be catering to
>>students primarily and therefore must be built keeping them in mind rather
>>than developers. But developers would still use it (or not?), therefore
>>there would be some consideration of them and providing information
>>relevant to them such as version of app, size, detailed/complete release
>>note, website/link to repository, license etc.
>>- Special attention needs to be made towards user experience and
>>usability. Such as web app should be responsive, delightful to use by
>>students. For this, some artwork also needs to be built such as logo of 
>> app
>>store, button icons, background etc.
>>
>> Functionalities
>>
>>- *Upload activities to app store using SSH*: Trusted developers with
>>access granted/account created for this specific purpose can upload
>>activities to app store and have p

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to build app store for python 3 activities

[Sumit Srivastava]

This seems awesome.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 6:36 PM  wrote:

> Unified App Store
>
> Once the app store is built with all the specified requirements, we can
> with minimal effort turn it into the unified app store for all activities
> including python 2 (though all would be ported to python 3), JavaScript and
> those (if any) written in other languages. Based on user-agent we can
> decide:
>
>- Sugar OS - all activities including JS written for Sugar and
>Sugarizer
>- Old Sugar OS - python 2 activities (was there any support to run JS
>written activities?)
>- All other - Sugarizer activities unless toggled to show all
>
> This combined with building native app store (again with minor
> modification to web app store) which is geared only towards students for
> searching, browsing, installing and uninstalling apps would provide single
> app store codebase for entire platform.
>
> Please provide your comments on the idea. If idea is supported by the
> community than I can work towards building it.
>
> Regards,
> Manish
>
>
> Apr 12, 2020, 01:18 by su...@radii.dev:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I wish to build app store for python 3 activities
> .
> For this I would like to inquire exact requirements of the project from the
> mentors and community at large.
>
> Below is my current understanding of project. Please read through it and
> correct where these are wrong. After it are some questions to answer to
> further improve my understanding. Some of these are merely more elaborate
> rewording of requirements specified on website
> .
> It is meant to detect possible misunderstanding that I may have from
> reading very brief one-line requirements.
>
> After few responses for this mail, a draft requirements document will be
> mailed for feedback before final requirements specification.
> Objective
>
>- The objective of app store is to provide a one-stop platform for
>students to browse or search and download activities to their system. It is
>expected than once the app store is built, students would not have to
>search for activities over internet, on GitHub or on wiki and download from
>there.
>- Sugar will use app store to automatically upgrade newer version of
>activities.
>
> Users of app store
>
>- *Students*: search and browse app store for activities and download
>them if not already installed.
>- *Trusted developers*: add and modify activities to app store via SSH
>and than check them on app store. These are trusted developers and not all
>the developers. Their role would be similar to package managers for
>distros. That is, most of the times, the developer who built activity would
>not be the one who uploads it but request trusted developer to grant access
>or upload themselve.
>- *Sugar desktop environment/OS*: check for current version on app
>store and if new version found than download and upgrade activities on
>local machine.
>
> User-interface
>
>- The user interface/frontend of app store would be catering to
>students primarily and therefore must be built keeping them in mind rather
>than developers. But developers would still use it (or not?), therefore
>there would be some consideration of them and providing information
>relevant to them such as version of app, size, detailed/complete release
>note, website/link to repository, license etc.
>- Special attention needs to be made towards user experience and
>usability. Such as web app should be responsive, delightful to use by
>students. For this, some artwork also needs to be built such as logo of app
>store, button icons, background etc.
>
> Functionalities
>
>- *Upload activities to app store using SSH*: Trusted developers with
>access granted/account created for this specific purpose can upload
>activities to app store and have parameters to specify such as markdown
>supported detailed description of activities etc. but information which is
>available in activity.info will not be asked/cannot be specified in
>parameters while uploading, instead it will be processed directly by
>parsing activity.info file.
>- *Search box*: There will be a single search input field in which
>user enters search query. Thee are no complicated search query features
>such as selecting category, no. of entries per page etc. At backend, based
>on query keywords either a) a simple keyword match is performed and results
>are returned in order in which received. b) some search improvement
>processing is done such as a rank based search prioritizing keyword matches
>in activities tile over activities description. There will/will not (please
>inform) functionality to sort search 

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcement] Sugarizer v1.3 is available for your device

[Sumit Srivastava]

Congratulations!!

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 3:04 AM Lionel Laské  wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm proud to announce the version 1.3 of Sugarizer, the leading learning
> platform for children.
>
> http://sugarizer.org
>
> New in this version:
>
>- Calligra activity: Primary school teachers asked us, it's done!
>Calligra is a fun activity to help kids learn cursive writing:
>letters, numbers or figures. You could even create your own figures!
>
>
>- Falabracman activity: It was one of children favorite Sugar
>activities all over the world  since its creation in 2008 in Brazil. The
>addictive Falabracman game is back. Learn words by collecting all the
>letters in the right order.
>- Piano mode in TamTam activity: Choose your instrument then display a
>small piano keyboard to play your favorites melodies using this instrument.
>Never been so easy to play music.
>- Set time mode in Clock activity: Set clock hands by yourself or play
>to find the hand position matching a specific time.
>- Smartphone support: Of course a smartphone is not the ideal device
>for Sugarizer but we can't ignore an opportunity to learn. So most
>activities propose now a full screen mode to be easily usable on small
>screens.
>- Tutorial everywhere: You've got a doubt about features of an
>activity? Now every activities include a full tutorial to explain how it
>works step by step.
>- Improved stability: more than 100 fix and update on Sugarizer and
>activities.
>
> A short animation of these features is visible here:
> https://youtu.be/kwhvWROHb2Q
>
> Teachers use Sugarizer in 30 schools today. If it's good for them, why
> not for your children?
>
> Sugarizer 1.3  is available on your browser [1] but also for your
> Android, iOS, Linux, MacOS or Windows device. Download it from : Google
> Play [2], Amazon Store [3], Apple Store [4], F-droid [5], snapcraft [6]
> and if you don't like stores, you could also install it by yourself using
> instructions on the Sugarizer website [7].
>
> On Android, Sugarizer could also replace your launcher with Sugarizer OS
> [8].
>
> And if you want to deploy Sugarizer Server for your school, follow
> instructions here [9].
>
>Lionel Laské
>
>
> P.S.: Special thanks for their contribution on this version to Prakash
> Ujjwal (Falabracman activity, Set time mode in Clock activity), Marcus
> Chong (Piano mode in TamTam activity) and to all GCI students
> specifically Andrea Gonzales, Nathan Dimmer, sdziuda and Sashreek Magan.
>
>
>
> [1] http://try.sugarizer.org
>
> [2]
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.olpc_france.sugarizer
>
> [3] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NKK7PZA
>
> [4] https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sugarizer/id978495303
>
> [5] https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.olpc_france.sugarizer
>
> [6] https://snapcraft.io/sugarizer
>
> [7] https://sugarizer.org
>
> [8]
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.olpc_france.sugarizeros
>
> [9] https://github.com/llaske/sugarizer-server
>
> [10] https://sugarizer.org#desktop
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2020

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi Ahmad,

Music Blocks is a fork of Turtle Blocks JS, which is a derivative of Turtle
Blocks, which is written in Python.
MB <-- TB JS <-- TB <-- Python
You can export Turtle Blocks code as Python code to directly run via python
interpreter leveraging libraries like GTK.

The aim is to provide similar functionality for Music Blocks. This means
the end result should be that you would be able to export Music Blocks as
JavaScript code that can be run without any external dependencies in the
browser.

PS: I've CC'ed sugar-devel mailing list here, feel free to join the mailing
list to stay in touch about the questions other people in the community are
asking about GSoC.

- Sumit
ᐧ

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 8:45 PM Ahmad Ali 
wrote:

> Hi there!
> I'm Ahmad Ali and I'm a student of Computer Science in the 6th semester
> and want to participate in GSoC 2020 for Export Music Blocks code to
> JavaScript project please would you like to guide me? in this regard. Thanks
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2020 five month plans

[Sumit Srivastava]

Thanks James for sending the invite to me. Accepted.

I hope that the Sugar family stays safe from COVID. Looking forward to some
great projects.

- Sumit

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 12:11 PM Ashish Aggarwal 
wrote:

> I wanted to confirm that I will be available for GSoC 2020 for at least 6
> hours per week .
> Regards
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, 11:37 James Cameron,  wrote:
>
>> Hello mentors,
>>
>> Stephanie wrote:
>>
>> > The world is certainly in upheaval right now and there is a lot of
>> > stress for everyone so we want everyone to be safe and take care of
>> > themselves and their families. This may mean priorities for some
>> > mentors and org admins change and they may no longer be able to
>> > commit to being a part of GSoC 2020, we understand that and we
>> > support you making the best decisions for your families.  We just
>> > ask you to communicate with the org admins so they can better plan
>> > for what the next 5 months will look like for your community and its
>> > participation in GSoC.
>>
>> Given the new circumstances, please confirm you are still able to
>> commit to GSoC for 2020?
>>
>> Can you dedicate six hours a week?
>>
>> Please keep Walter and myself informed.
>>
>> Also, please do your mentoring in public as much as possible, so we
>> can cover for you and watch out for missing mentors.
>>
>> Welcome to Rahul.  We have 15 mentors listed on the dashboard, and
>> we're waiting for Devin and Sumit to respond to the Google invitation
>> message.
>>
>> --
>> James Cameron
>> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal query

[Sumit Srivastava]

To reduce wasted effort, just make sure that the idea is really needed by
talking to the project mentor or one of the heads of the segment - {Lionel,
James, or Walter} if you're not sure who the mentor might be.

If the previous GSoC project was already done, it might not be needed again
so just talk to a mentor once to confirm if it's required.

Regarding credits: No need for credits, though you can mention the project
if you want.

Feel free to ignore all the above advice and send a proposal directly to
sugar-devel for review.

All the best,
Sumit

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 7:56 PM Abhishek Tanwar 
wrote:

> Can I take inspiration from previous GSoC idea and project while making my
> own proposal?
> If yes do I need to mention it in my proposal/give  credits.If anyone
> could tell me the proper way to give credits ,I would be grateful to you.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOC enquiry

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi Sam,

For this idea the path is pretty simple. Select atleast 100 issues to
resolve over the course of the summer and tell us how you'd resolve them.

Maybe even try resolving a few beforehand so that we know that you are able
to actually resolve a few issues? Might increase chances of selection.

In short: Select atleast 100 issue in music blocks and chalk out a map to
resolve those issues. Also try contributing meaningfully to music blocks in
the meantime.

PS: Subscribe to sugar-devel mailing list if you haven't already done so.

- Sumit


On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 10:31 AM sam caspus 
wrote:

> Hey Sumit,
>
> sorry to mail you out of the blue as i had no context of how to proceed
> for sugarlabs. As i could see you as a mentor for one of the ideas this
> time in gsoc i was wondering if you could guide me how to proceed and what
> is the correct way of approaching things in open source community.
>
> Just for your reference the idea is => music blocks
> 
>
>
> please do let me know if you could just guide me a bit.
>
> Thanks looking forward to hearing from you
>
> regards,
> sandeep guptan
> sandeepguptan1...@gmail.com
> +91 9489078489 (Whatsapp)
> +91 9080743231 (Call)
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi,

It was me, back in 2018, started the conversation of switching to Gitter. [
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055061.html]

Back then, I was as new to the community as Bottersnike, Prashant, and
Srevin are now.

I had just come from SymPy organisation that used Gitter as their primary
communication channel.

A huge round of appreciation to James for being on Gitter answering all the
incoming questions.

About three years down the line, here's what I learnt:

1. Installed two IRC clients for mobile access: Riot.im and IRCCloud

2. IRC is still a pain to use, and I still prefer (enjoy) answering
questions over the mailing list.

3. It's hard to switch a community to a communication tool 2, unless you
totally ban the original communication tool 1 and end supporting the
original communication tool. Infact, it becomes worse when you have limited
resources and people (something I wasn't aware of when I joined the
community) because the James now has to spend his headspace for answering
questions on IRC, Gitter, mailing list, and has to spend time maintaining
the codebase. Headspace is valuable and limited.

Now that I've made you aware of the actual constraints of the problem, I
think you may want to spend more of your time this GSoC on Gitter answering
questions of the newcomers. :)

I would love to hear new viewpoints from other community members.

PS: Thanks to everyone who answers questions from people new to SugarLabs.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020, 1:33 AM Bottersnike  wrote:

> >Quassel core is a server that keeps the backlog.  I don't need my
> >computer on, and I can view the backlog from any device.
>
> Without being rude, most people don't have a spare server lying around
> they can spin up an IRC backlog on, especially not people interested in
> reading backlogged messages from *before* they joined the IRC for the
> first time.
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:59 PM James Cameron  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>> Quassel core is a server that keeps the backlog.  I don't need my
>> computer on, and I can view the backlog from any device.
>>
>> Yes, there are better onboarding experiences.
>>
>> However, if people want to talk with us, they'll know where to find
>> us.  We're here to get the job done, not provide better experiences
>> for developers.
>>
>> We do still get students who can use IRC, so I know it is not a
>> significant hindrance.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 07:46:10PM +, Bottersnike wrote:
>> > I think one of the main issues with IRC is the onboarding experience,
>> or rather
>> > lack thereof. For new users, they're faced with an entirely blank
>> screen, with
>> > no trivial way to search for past questions, see if a topic has been
>> brought up
>> > before, or even just read through history to get a general idea of the
>> way the
>> > organization operates. Sure, there may be archives maintained, but for
>> someone
>> > who has just discovered SugarLabs and wants to contribute, that really
>> isn't
>> > going to be a viable solution, because it takes significant effort to
>> hunt them
>> > down and search through them. For established teams, this isn't much of
>> an
>> > issue, but it can make SugarLabs an incredibly daunting organization
>> for young
>> > students from, say GCI, or people looking around at different
>> organizations for
>> > GSoC.
>> >
>> > > I use Quassel, as it keeps backlog.
>> >
>> > Most clients keep a backlog, but only if your computer is on. That's
>> not the
>> > situation 24/7 for a lot of people.
>> >
>> > (Sorry for the double message, James. I accidentally used Reply not
>> Reply All)
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:15 PM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for asking.
>> >
>> > For real-time presence messaging, please use IRC channel #sugar on
>> > [2]freenode.net.  Your choice of client.  I use Quassel, as it
>> keeps
>> > backlog.
>> >
>> > For store and forward messaging, please use the mailing list.  Your
>> > choice of client.
>> >
>> > You'll get a voice on choice of tools once you've been working with
>> us
>> > for a few months.  Until then we can't trust that you've assessed
>> the
>> > situation accurately.
>> >
>> > Gitter.im was yet another attempt to split our community into the
>> > haves and the have-nots.  I'm almost ready to ditch my account there
>> > because it has way less benefit than the cost.  Of receiving a mail
>> > notification, logging in, and answering the same old questions.  It
>> is
>> > quite boring.  You can see that if you look through the previous
>> > discussion, which you'll find was entirely sporadic; someone
>> > has a question, I answer, nothing else happens.  It could have been
>> > done in mail.  It costs so much memory and screen real-estate that I
>> > can't see myself staying connected.  I certainly don't want it
>> > promoted for Sugar Labs, but I'm willing to keep it 

Re: [Sugar-devel] About Google Code In

[Sumit Srivastava]

You are welcome to ask doubts over sugar devel.

Yes, even the small ones. Even the "how to get started with sugar labs type
ones".

James can point out to say what was the policy that asked people to
communicate publicly instead of privately but it's because it benefits the
community instead of a single person.

All the best!

Regards
Sumit


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 12:24 AM omkar relkar  wrote:

> How should Get Connected to Others For Helping And Asking Doubts???
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Re: [Sugar-devel] About Google Code In

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi, Omkar.

GCI is about everything that an open source organisation might need: from
frontend to backend, from design to documentation, etc. You can choose any
of the above pertaining to you your interest.

PS: No need to address anyone as Sir over here. Addressing one by first
name (Sumit in my case) is acceptable and appreciated.

PPS: Please direct your questions to sugar-devel for quicker response time,
I've Cc'ed sugar devel for now, so don't worry about it.

Regards
Sumit


On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 9:03 PM omkar relkar  wrote:

> Hello Sir,
> I wanted to ask that whether Google Code In is about Front End Development
> Or back end development ???
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Nov, 2019, 15:25 omkar relkar,  wrote:
>
>> Do we Get Some Tutorials before starting completing tasks for learning
>>
>> On Sun, 17 Nov, 2019, 15:22 omkar relkar,  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the clarification.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Nov, 2019, 15:18 Favour Kelvin, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The works of 20 students with the highest  number of completed tasks
>>>> will be reviewed, considering quality, thoroughness, creativity  and
>>>> community involvement.
>>>>
>>>> From the 20 students the organisation  will name 6 finalist,from those
>>>> 6 finalist they will chose  2 students as the grand prize winner and two
>>>> students as runners ups.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, 10:38 Sumit Srivastava, 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would anyone like to answer Omkar's query. He asks: on what criteria
>>>>> do you choose the grand prize winner. Conversation attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2019, 3:04 PM omkar relkar 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You participated as a mentor . What is criteria for . I want
>>>>>> to know what are the condition on which you choose a grand prize winner??
>>>>>> . And yes I also too want to know that whether at the time
>>>>>> participation do we get start up tutorials 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Nov, 2019, 06:18 omkar relkar, 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I  want to participate as a coder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Nov, 2019, 23:26 Sumit Srivastava, <
>>>>>>> sumitsrisu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While it's common for people to code on laptops, it's not
>>>>>>>> necessary. There are also other type of tasks, so it's not just 
>>>>>>>> limited to
>>>>>>>> coding. So, yes, you can.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think should be anything in Google Code In terms that says
>>>>>>>> that only people with laptops are allowed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can also use someone else's laptop or computer meanwhile if you
>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All you need to participate is the wish to participate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Sumit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019, 11:13 PM omkar relkar 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Sir ,
>>>>>>>>> I'm Omkar from India and I'm willing to participate in Google Code
>>>>>>>>> In 2019 but the issue is I don't have a Computer at home and not even 
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> a laptop ... Can I participate in Google code in Using Android Phone 
>>>>>>>>> ???
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Re: [Sugar-devel] About Google Code In

[Sumit Srivastava]

Would anyone like to answer Omkar's query. He asks: on what criteria do you
choose the grand prize winner. Conversation attached.

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019, 3:04 PM omkar relkar  wrote:

> You participated as a mentor . What is criteria for . I want to
> know what are the condition on which you choose a grand prize winner??
> . And yes I also too want to know that whether at the time
> participation do we get start up tutorials 
>
> On Sun, 17 Nov, 2019, 06:18 omkar relkar,  wrote:
>
>> But I  want to participate as a coder
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Nov, 2019, 23:26 Sumit Srivastava, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> While it's common for people to code on laptops, it's not necessary.
>>> There are also other type of tasks, so it's not just limited to coding. So,
>>> yes, you can.
>>>
>>> I don't think should be anything in Google Code In terms that says that
>>> only people with laptops are allowed.
>>>
>>> You can also use someone else's laptop or computer meanwhile if you want.
>>>
>>> All you need to participate is the wish to participate.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Sumit
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019, 11:13 PM omkar relkar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Sir ,
>>>> I'm Omkar from India and I'm willing to participate in Google Code In
>>>> 2019 but the issue is I don't have a Computer at home and not even have a
>>>> laptop ... Can I participate in Google code in Using Android Phone ???
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] About Google Code In

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While it's common for people to code on laptops, it's not necessary. There
are also other type of tasks, so it's not just limited to coding. So, yes,
you can.

I don't think should be anything in Google Code In terms that says that
only people with laptops are allowed.

You can also use someone else's laptop or computer meanwhile if you want.

All you need to participate is the wish to participate.

Regards
Sumit

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019, 11:13 PM omkar relkar  wrote:

> Hello Sir ,
> I'm Omkar from India and I'm willing to participate in Google Code In 2019
> but the issue is I don't have a Computer at home and not even have a laptop
> ... Can I participate in Google code in Using Android Phone ???
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Google Code-in 2019

[Sumit Srivastava]

Yes, Aniket!

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 2:19 AM ANIKET MATHUR  wrote:

> G'day everyone,
>
> I wish to mentor GCI 2019 for Sugar Labs. I have a query about how to add
> my name to the mentor list on the wiki page,
> do I need a Sugar Labs wiki account for that?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 9:23 PM Euan Ong  wrote:
>
>> Dear Walter,
>>
>> Great to see Sugar Labs has been accepted for GCI 2019 :) I'd definitely
>> be interested in mentoring this year.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Euan
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 22:56, Walter Bender 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've begun putting together our application to GCI 2019. And I have
>>> created a page in the wiki with background information [2]
>>>
>>> If you are interested in mentoring, please let me know (and add your
>>> name to the list at the bottom of the wiki page.). Please indicate what
>>> areas you wish to help with (coding, design, research, documentation, and
>>> QA) and relevant experience in the Sugar Labs community.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to GCI.
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
>>> [1] https://codein.withgoogle.com/
>>> [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Google_Code_In_2019
>>>
>>> --
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>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] GCI 2019

[Sumit Srivastava]

Whoohoo!

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 10:37 PM Walter Bender 
wrote:

> Sugar Labs has been selected as a Google Code-in 2019 mentor organization.
> I'll send some details this evening.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Google Code-in 2019

[Sumit Srivastava]

Yay! All the best to everyone involved with the ambitious mission of Sugar
Labs!

Regards
Sumit

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 3:25 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

> I've begun putting together our application to GCI 2019. And I have
> created a page in the wiki with background information [2]
>
> If you are interested in mentoring, please let me know (and add your name
> to the list at the bottom of the wiki page.). Please indicate what areas
> you wish to help with (coding, design, research, documentation, and QA) and
> relevant experience in the Sugar Labs community.
>
> Looking forward to GCI.
>
> regards.
>
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>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GCI 2019 Announced

[Sumit Srivastava]

I've been working on my startup and have also not been able to report
issues of MB for a while now. Apologies.

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 7:45 PM Devin Ulibarri  wrote:

> On Tue, 2019-09-24 at 07:32 +1000, James Cameron wrote:
> > Without users opening issues, we don't have an easy queue of work to
> > shovel into this.
> >
> > I'm watching as many repositories as possible, but nothing much is
> > coming in.  Not just Sugar, also the same on Sugarizer and Music
> > Blocks.
>
> I am very behind on reporting Music Blocks issues, but I assure you I
> know of plenty that need to be addressed.
>
> It will be motivating for me to know that students will get the chance
> to work on some of these issues.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] could be a nice opportunity for Sugar

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This seems exciting, and could possibly reduce a lot of friction.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 6:26 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

>
> https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/crostini-linux-for-chromebooks-distro-menu-debian-fedora-ubuntu/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Video: The Coolest Netbook You’ve Forgotten About: The OLPC XO-1

[Sumit Srivastava]

Watch the comments, I tried to help. :P

On Tue, 11 Jun 2019, 4:31 am James Cameron,  wrote:

> Thanks Ignacio,
>
> I like the Prius in the background.
>
> I like how my updates to the OLPC web site were visible.  Makes it
> worth the effort.  ;-)
>
> Software shown was from February 2008; with Write-55, Nano 2.0.6, and
> Python 2.5.1
>
> One of the battery latches was, as usual, left unlocked.
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 07:24:05PM -0300, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:
> > [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPP4ClRmVik
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPP4ClRmVik
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Grayscale screen implementation query

[Sumit Srivastava]

Thanks, Alex!

On Wed, 5 Jun 2019, 12:44 am Alex Perez,  wrote:

> Sumit,
>
> Sumit Srivastava wrote on 6/3/19 12:18 PM:
>
> Hi, all!
>
> Here's a query that has been directed at me on the internet, however I
> don't have any idea about the grayscale implementation of the screen in
> XO-1. How does it switch from colour to grayscale and on what basis is it
> decided?
>
> On XO hardware, the lowest brightness setting, "off" is what dictates the
> display being in grayscale/daylight-readable (Reflective) mode. You can
> read more at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display
>
>
> >The original query:
> {"generic Josh number 96" asks
> "Do you know if the display is switching modes with the greyscale thing?
> Very curious how the screen works"}
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[Sugar-devel] Grayscale screen implementation query

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Hi, all!

Here's a query that has been directed at me on the internet, however I
don't have any idea about the grayscale implementation of the screen in
XO-1. How does it switch from colour to grayscale and on what basis is it
decided?

>The original query:
{"generic Josh number 96" asks
"Do you know if the display is switching modes with the greyscale thing?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2019 - Welcome to Sugar Labs

[Sumit Srivastava]

*To the students*:

Congratulations to the 9 students selected for GSoC! Not only your
proposals stood out, but so did your contributions to Sugar Labs.

You're all capable of creating magic with your fingers, let's finally do it
this summer.

I'm available for any questions related to Sugar Labs in general or
musicblocks specifically. Feel free to reach out.

*To Rahul*:

10PM IST is preferred but both are alright.

Regards
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> Greetings everyone,
>
> Congratulations to the 9 students selected for GSoC 2019 with Sugar Labs.
> We
> hope that you are as excited as we are. We had some great proposals to go
> through and yours' really stood out.
>
> Here are a few things to get you onboard,
> 1. Please subscribe to sugar-devel if you haven't already,
> See http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
> 2. Contact your project mentors to get started. Decide a weekly meeting
> time
> which suits you and your mentors. Regular communication is an integral
> part of
> working on a project of this scale.
> It can be tempting to communicate in private, but please use public forums
> like
> #sugar, #sugar-meeting, or @sugar-devel while communicating, so that other
> community members can also join in.
>
> 3. You are required to write weekly blog posts about your GSoC progress.
> You
> can start off by setting a blog up if you haven't already. Reply to this
> thread with
> the link to your blog.
>
> 4. We'll be having a weekly group meeting on #sugar-meeting, where all
> mentors and students will discuss their progress. Since we have people from
> Australia, France, India, Nigeria, and the US (pardon me if I've missed
> anyone),
> it'll be difficult to find a time suitable for everyone. Reply to this
> thread with your
> preference of time. Here are a few suggested options,
> * Monday 4:30 PM UTC / 10:00 PM IST
> * Monday 6:30 PM UTC / 12:00 PM IST
>
> 5. If you have any issues with your mentor, or otherwise during the GSoC
> project, please feel free to get in touch with the GSoC Org Admins. They
> are
> James , Rahul , and Walter
> .
>
> Welcome to Sugar Labs.
> Looking forward to a productive summer with you guys
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] first-time only issues

[Sumit Srivastava]

I've already been saying we need more issues that are marked as beginner
issues.

We have too few!

To the community: Let me know if you see an issue that needs to be marked
as a beginner issue, or comment on it and someone will tag it.

Regards
Sumit

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> Something to consider:
> https://publiclab.org/notes/gauravano/03-29-2019/software-community-growth-through-first-timers-only-issues
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi, Vipul, Jaskirat, and all members of SL community!

These days I'm thinking about two things:

1. How to expand the SL developer community?

2. How do we move towards the vision for sugar labs that was discussed a
few weeks ago in an email thread?

As of now, I've some ideas for *1*, but need more inputs from everyone.
Shall I start a new thread for new inputs?

And yes, I'm constantly thinking about how can we make great things happen
in the community. Glad that you noticed.

Regards
Sumit


On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:51 am Jaskirat Singh, 
wrote:

> Thanks Vipul for taking this up, The funds that were granted by Google
> for GSOC ( I guess ) remains with the community and it is being controlled
> by SFC of which Sugar Labs is a member project.
> I see that Sumit initiated about swags, but maybe it might not have been
> made to move further due to absence of the budget proposal.
>
> So if anyone of us can try working on proposal for marketing along with a
> marketing team that would be great and would become easy for Board to
> review and add up their decisions.
>
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:39 am Vipul Gupta 
>> Thanks, Jaskirat, I have also attached an email snippet regarding GSoC
>> Mentor Stipends on Sumit's request that was reallocated to the marketing
>> committee for making shirts, and stickers. I am not sure what is the
>> progress of the same since then or the status? But looking forward to
>> hearing from any GSoC 2018 mentors as to what happened to those funds.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Vipul Gupta
>> Mixster  | Github
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:56 PM Jaskirat Singh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vipul,
>>>
>>> Yes I would be at Open Source Summit Europe in France, It would be
>>> indeed to interact with communities/people for introducing sugarlabs and
>>> its productivity there.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 11:30 am Vipul Gupta >> wrote:
>>>
 Sounds like a plan! Thank you for your support, Jasikrat. I see you are
 planning to go for Open Source Summit, would you mind to be our
 spokesperson there.
 Maybe some opportunity comes from the Linux Foundation as well. I also
 wanted to start a discussion on the use of funds allocated for Sugar Labs's
 merchandise at the end of Google Summer of Code using the designs made in
 Google Code-In.

 Cordially,
 Vipul Gupta
 Mixster  | Github
 


 On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:46 AM Jaskirat Singh 
 wrote:

> Hi Vipul,
>
> This sounds really good. I really appreciate you both for representing
> Sugar labs at PyCon.
>
> Well, I proposed somewhat same thing like Organising Sugar Summits in
> various countries, I am still in the middle of it to draft my proposal for
> the same. So once its done I will share here.
> And I think this is a good opportunity as well for us to represent
> Sugar Labs at such a great platform.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 10:32 am Vipul Gupta  wrote:
>
>> Hello folks,
>> At the end of 2018, we started the Outreach works for Sugar Labs. At
>> first, we thought of sharing several accomplishments throughout Google
>> Code-In to keep the people in the loop on various social media platforms,
>> as well as sharing experiences of Google Summer of Code students and 
>> their
>> projects held in 2018 for a positive impact.
>>
>> We thought we can go bigger and with that thought in mind represent
>> Sugar Labs on larger platforms in front of communities. I proposed PyCon 
>> to
>> be a great choice for the same. Considering OLPC represented XO laptops
>> being part of PyCon 2008 (An article by Tony
>> )
>> Hence, we submitted a proposal for talks about Sugar Labs in the 
>> Education
>> Summit of PyCon Cleveland 2019, and I am very happy to inform that we 
>> have
>> in fact been selected. It's a great accomplishment for us all.
>>
>> Samson would be representing our community at PyCon Cleveland. I,
>> unfortunately, due to my university exams won't be able to go. As much 
>> as I
>> loved drafting the proposal with Samson and be would like to meet and 
>> talk
>> about Sugar Labs, I am happy that Samson has a chance to be at PyCon and
>> will do great. We are still raw in your efforts and have lots to improve.
>> Would love to have more suggestions on things we should be doing, and 
>> also
>> planning to hold workshops regarding Sugar in many countries in the near
>> future.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Vipul Gupta
>> Mixster  | Github
>> 
>> 

Re: [Sugar-devel] My GSoC Proposal: Let's Vue-tify.

[Sumit Srivastava]

Since this is an idea which wasn't originally proposed, I'd have to CC
@llaske for his comments.

Regards

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019, 4:50 pm Sahil Jha,  wrote:

> Hi Sumit, Thanks for reviewing my proposal.
>
> Firstly I would like to mention that, I picked this Idea from the open
> issues in Sugarizer [1],
>
> yes, I am absolutely serious about this Idea and I will surely try to make
> PRs in next upcoming days,
>
> I also have updated my proposal and have mentioned a few more advantages.
>
> [1] - https://github.com/llaske/sugarizer/issues/257
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 4:04 PM Sumit Srivastava 
> wrote:
>
>> Of all the possible pros from switching to Vue.js, if any, you mentioned
>> the one that is about attracting new Vue devs?
>>
>> After 5 years, a new framework will come out, does that mean we'll switch
>> again?
>>
>> Did you discuss this idea with any of the mentors of Sugariser ideas?
>> Please do, and try to make some PRs if you're serious about this idea.
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019, 12:46 am Sahil Jha,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone!
>>>
>>> Hereby I am attaching my proposal for GSoC 2019 : Lets's Vue-tify.
>>> any kind of feedback is appreciated.
>>>
>>> Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] My GSoC Proposal: Let's Vue-tify.

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Of all the possible pros from switching to Vue.js, if any, you mentioned
the one that is about attracting new Vue devs?

After 5 years, a new framework will come out, does that mean we'll switch
again?

Did you discuss this idea with any of the mentors of Sugariser ideas?
Please do, and try to make some PRs if you're serious about this idea.

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019, 12:46 am Sahil Jha,  wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> Hereby I am attaching my proposal for GSoC 2019 : Lets's Vue-tify.
> any kind of feedback is appreciated.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar- devel] My GSoC proposal for create new set of activities for Sugar

[Sumit Srivastava]

You can write the third activity as a bonus activity and mention the fact
that you might be able to complete these two activities before time.

If you can do things really fast, I'd suggest you to make some more pull
requests really fast, because you've only mentioned one unmerged PR.

Regards

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, 8:50 pm Rushabh Vasani, 
wrote:

> Thank you for your response !
>
>  I have a doubt that, are my 2 activities enough for these 3 months. I am
> not able to figure out because I think I can do it in only 2 months but my
> cousin who is my guide for GSoC told me to only propose 2 activities.
> Though I am thinking that if I'll complete these tow earlier I'll go for
> third one. So I am proposing only 2 activities for now.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> On Sun 7 Apr, 2019, 7:41 PM Sumit Srivastava  wrote:
>
>> Thank you, good idea of using resnet 50 for mecho. I had something
>> similar in my mind.
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, 7:33 pm Rushabh Vasani, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a doc file and PDF of my proposal for create new set of
>>> activities please review it and give me feedback and suggestions for it.
>>> Apologising for sending it late.
>>> Thank you !
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sugar- devel] My GSoC proposal for create new set of activities for Sugar

[Sumit Srivastava]

Thank you, good idea of using resnet 50 for mecho. I had something similar
in my mind.

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, 7:33 pm Rushabh Vasani, 
wrote:

> This is a doc file and PDF of my proposal for create new set of activities
> please review it and give me feedback and suggestions for it.
> Apologising for sending it late.
> Thank you !
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2019; Selection of Mentors and Projects

[Sumit Srivastava]

In addition to what Walter said, shutting the door on people who want to
contribute will shrink the community faster than we might imagine.

We need to do lot more stuff than we already are engaged with, and for that
we will need support from the community.

Regards
Sumit


On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, 7:20 am Walter Bender,  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 5:34 PM Rahul Bothra  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 2:21 AM Lionel Laské 
>> wrote:
>> > As I already said my preference is to have one mentor only by project.
>>
>> Thanks. I agree with the responsibilities you listed.
>> I'd prefer 2 mentors per project, and the duo can mentor more than one
>> project,
>> 1. This introduces a room for discussion over the project,
>> 2. In case a mentor is unavailable for a while, the other one can fill in.
>>
>> I agree with your mentor selection for Sugarizer based projects. I've
>> invited Tarun to join as a mentor on the GSoC dashboard.
>>
>> Regarding Sugar, there is myself and James.
>> I don't think we need more mentors, mainly because I haven't seen a lot
>> of prospective proposals yet. I'll wait till 9th.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
> And I guess I remain an outlier because I disagree with both of you. I
> have no argument with the list Lionel shared, although while comprehensive
> regarding administrative details, it is pretty short on the actually
> mentoring. And maybe our disagreement lies in the distinction between
> administering and mentoring. I am in agreement that there should be one
> administrator per project. But I think any project worth the effort would
> benefit from input from a variety of perspectives: coding, design, UX,
> testing, etc. I don't know of anyone in my experience (40+ years of
> software development projects) who can do all of that on their own. And I
> am not a fan of hard-and-fast limits. I think we build teams that are
> suitable for each project.
>
> CC'ing devel as there is no reason for this to be a private discussion.
>
> regards.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc Proposal for "performance in musicblocks"

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The proposal is great.
Also, thank you for all the help with bug discovery.
ᐧ

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 6:43 PM Walter Bender 
wrote:

> It looks very comprehensive to me. (Thanks for adding the section on
> Promises.)
>
> -walter
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 6:01 AM Favour Kelvin 
> wrote:
>
>> I have not gotten any reviews yet on my proposal
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 1:55 AM James Cameron  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal (Maintaining 25 activities).

[Sumit Srivastava]

Thanks. I've read the proposal and I've no comments.

You're submitting two proposals, one for porting and one for maintaining
activities, right?

On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, 2:19 pm aniket mathur, 
wrote:

> Hello everyone, I am Aniket Mathur. Attached is the pdf of my proposal for
> maintaining 25 sugar activities. Please review and suggest changes. Thanks!
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoc[Request For Contribution]

[Sumit Srivastava]

Yes.

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 11:16 pm RM Rishan,  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> First of all, let me introduce myself.I am Mohammed Rishan and I'm
> currently an IT undergraduate at university of Kelaniya, Kelaniya, Sri
> Lanka.I have experience in Java, Docker, Maven, Gradle, C/C++, Python and
> HTML/CSS/JS through working on university projects and personal projects.
> I'm interested in contributing to Sugar Labs this summer as I'm hoping to
> put my free time into good use to help out the development community.
>
> I read GSoC 2019 ideas in the Sugar Labs Github page.
>
> I would really like work on with the following idea.
>
>
>-
>
>Create a Sugar Dashboard[1]
>
>
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2019.md#create-a-sugar-dashboard
>
> Is it OK to make the GSoC 2019 proposal with mentioned idea?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rishan.
>
> (Github profile -  https://github.com/iamrmrishan )
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Contact[Query]

[Sumit Srivastava]

Don't bother finding the email, you could (and should) post your query on
sugar devel mailing list.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC'19] Project: Export Music Blocks code to JavaScript

[Sumit Srivastava]

Checkout issues tagged with "good first issue"

Welcome to Sugar Labs!

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019, 3:11 am Mayank,  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> I’m joining a bit late in the game but here I go!
> My name is Mayank and I am currently doing B.Tech from JIIT Noida. My
> interests in-general are in Software Development, but there are so many
> interesting areas out there that I want to explore! I have contributed to
> open source projects, and have been part of many Open Source Communities in
> Delhi-NCR.
> I have looked over the GSoC project 'Export Music Blocks code to
> JavaScript' and I am excited to learn and start! The learning curve is
> really steep; it is a mighty challenge but I am confident in my skills in
> JavaScript and the use of Python, and I do know how to use Version Control,
> CI Testing.
> I have deployed the project and exploring the code base of Music Blocks
> and I don't find any beginner friendly bugs for the first-timer related to
> the project. Can you guys help me with some basic bugs to start with?
> I would love to continue contributing to SugarLabs in the future as I
> totally loved the idea of One Laptop per Child and other Open Source
> Projects of the SugarLabs.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Going Through Proposals

[Sumit Srivastava]

I propose we should make a wiki.

We had it in the past, we should do it again.

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 7:36 pm Vaibhav Aren,  wrote:

> Is there a way to check the proposals on the project wise basis?
> When I Go through mailing list it is very difficult to keep a track and
> reply to the applicant or is going through sugar-devel archives the only
> way?
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] What's the long term vision of Sugar Labs?

[Sumit Srivastava]

Great points, Alex.

I would love to hear from all of you, especially the senior members of the
SL community, before we discuss all the points one by one.

Regards
Sumit

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019, 6:49 am Alex Perez,  wrote:

> Sumit,
>
> Great questions, and they're particularly relevant at this phase/age of
> the existence of Sugar Labs. They certainly can't be answered in a single
> e-mail, however I think this is a perfect conversation to have,
> particularly on our IAEP mailing list, which is our general purpose mailing
> list.
>
> Sumit Srivastava wrote on 3/28/19 5:00 PM:
>
> Do we aim to be like Red Hat? Canonical? No match? Who are we closest to?
> Who do we aim to be?
>
>
> Speaking as an Oversight Board member, I do not believe it is in the
> interest of Sugar Labs to attempt to emulate a company like Red Hat and
> Canonical. These companies have hundreds/thousands of paid employees, and
> their organizational structure is a product of the needs of their corporate
> customers.
>
> Right now, we have a few existential problems on the horizon, one of which
> is a long term problem, but which we now need to address in the short-term:
> Maintainability. Sugar has a lot of "technical debt", and unless we can
> complete our goal of 100% Python 3 compatibility of all core Sugar
> libraries and the toolkit, we risk the loss of being able to be run as a
> desktop environment on current versions of Linux, due to our reliance on
> Python 2. Since Python 2 has been on life support for many, many years, and
> is only nine months from being officially retired, it will no longer be
> maintained by the Python Foundation, nor included by default in the next
> versions of Fedora and Ubuntu. You can read further details about the
> sunsetting of Python 2 at https://pythonclock.org
>
> <https://pythonclock.org/>
>
>
> I understand that these are a lot of questions. You can also share
> relevant mail archive links if they're available.
>
> I also understand that we're a non profit and the organisations I
> mentioned might not be a close match.
>
> I personally do not think the core entity of Sugar Labs should be a
> commercial entity, but non-profit organizations are completely entitled to
> be profitable, and many are quite  for the profitable. Personally, I would
> like to see the development of a federated model, where we have
> country/regionally-centered "chapters" of Sugar Labs, with Sugar Labs
> itself taking the in-the-field feedback from our distributed user base, and
> incorporating and triaging suggestions/feedback,
>
>
> Essense of my question: If we could achieve anything, what would we want?
>
> I would love to see a world where Sugar was used extensively, worldwide,
> by children in the primary school age range, with a wide range of
> actively-maintained activities, relevant to the current curricula of a
> variety of countries, and of interest to elementary school teachers, across
> all socioeconomic groups. How we get there is the real question, assuming
> we want to, and have the organizational will to do so.
>
> As for what our "long term vision" is, I honestly don't think we have one
> at this point, and we should fix that, which is one of the reasons why I
> chose to run for the Sugar Labs Oversight Board. Our next meeting is next
> Friday, on 2019-04-05 at 20:00 UTC, on IRC, in the #sugar-meeting channel
> on FreeNode. Feel free to join us and observe, as well as ask questions
> before and after the official meeting commences.
>
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board
>
>
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[Sugar-devel] What's the long term vision of Sugar Labs?

[Sumit Srivastava]

Do we aim to be like Red Hat? Canonical? No match? Who are we closest to?
Who do we aim to be?

I understand that these are a lot of questions. You can also share relevant
mail archive links if they're available.

I also understand that we're a non profit and the organisations I mentioned
might not be a close match.

Essense of my question: If we could achieve anything, what would we want?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Idea for creating a new Sugar Activity

[Sumit Srivastava]

This seems to be a great idea.

Please go ahead and write a detailed proposal, and also show us that you
can write code by making relevant contributing on SugarLabs.

On Thu, 28 Mar 2019, 6:20 pm Manan Goel,  wrote:

> Hey Guys!
> I would like to present my idea for a new sugar activity. Being a
> bioinformatics enthusiast I would like to add a few applications a few
> bioinformatics based algorithms. For example, one of the things I plan to
> do is to construct phylogenetic trees (They show evolutionary relationships
> between different organisms using their DNA patterns which are openly
> available on the internet).
>
> As a personal experience when I saw it for the first time, it blew my mind
> that there is something inherent which makes us different from other
> organisms.
>
> I also have a couple of other ideas in mind for the activity.
>
> Regards
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Re: [Sugar-devel] To Cameron: ML idea discussion

[Sumit Srivastava]

Anyone pursuing this idea might also want to keep in mind that the hardware
of systems that students use might not not be "powerful" enough in most
cases.

On Wed, 27 Mar 2019, 6:49 pm IQRA MUHAMMAD, 
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> The ML activity was an idea given by me initially. I have to say that you
> need to first understand the concept of what "testing" and "training"  a
> model is.  We are not arranging the pictures here. We are training the
> model with the pictures.
> Have a look at the google drive worksheet link that I have attached along
> this email below. Besides ideas there are more ideas of google AI
> experiments that can you get inspired from   :)
> There is a website based on teaching ML to kids and that has lesson plans
> and worksheets:
>
> 1. https://machinelearningforkids.co.uk/#!/worksheets
>
> 2. https://experiments.withgoogle.com/teachable-machine
>
> 3. https://experiments.withgoogle.com/handwriting-with-a-neural-net
>
> 4. https://experiments.withgoogle.com/semantris
>
> Google Drive Iink for the car or cup worksheet:
>  
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZY5DdWgeSrzaswRhhXemkVWpllIV4suA/view?usp=sharing
> 
>
> Regards,
> Iqra
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 3:00 PM Ahmed ElSabbagh <
> ahmed.h.elsabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello James,
>> Thank you for the warm welcome, I am currently reading the documentation
>> you have sent.
>> Image recognition seems interesting, but shall we fill the blanks?
>> Should the activity for different pictures of cars, cups and other
>> things, the children should then choose which picture goes to which
>> category, then they test it on other images and if it should succeed in
>> recognizing it? And the initially 0 knowledge model learns incrementally?
>> This could be done a score for how many new pictures the Model was able
>> to recognize and each level the children pass they go to a new threshold or
>> level repeat and so on.
>> I see here is:
>> I am not familiar enough with in particular, but shouldn't the model take
>> many pictures in order to be capable enough? If would be tiresome for
>> children to arrange all the pictures.
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 07:49, 
>> wrote:
>>
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>>> Welcome Ahmed,
>>>
>>> Further information about how Sugar works for children can be found in
>>> documentation https://help.sugarlabs.org/
>>>
>>> You can also find more about Sugarizer on the https://sugarizer.org/
>>> .
>>>
>>> Machine Learning is difficult to fit into elementary teaching, as it
>>> such a narrow and rapidly changing field, with a
>>> knowledge.
>>>
>>> Yes, there were ideas about Machine Learning, my previous post gave a
>>> to https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/issues/16
>>>
>>> Think of a lesson plan for how a teacher could explain Machine
>>> Learning a child of nine years of age, without treating it as a
>>> " box" concept?
>>>
>>> Each week I teach a class of about 12 children, and they don't need to
>>> about Machine Learning or Artificial Intelligence in order to use
>>> products that depend on it.  It is often enough to say that it is
>>> mathematics and logic; which is a deferral.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 09:21:09AM +0200, Ahmed ElSabbagh wrote:
>>> > Hello Sugar Developers,
>>> > I am a student looking for ideas for google Google Summer of Code.
>>> > have caught my I find it difficult to understand
>>> > it works in general as not many tutorials are available.
>>> > I am fairly experienced in writing Python and I wish if possible to
>>> create a
>>> > activity for Machine Learning in Sugar.
>>> > Where could I possibly start and are there any specific ideas for ML
>>> > already in your mind for implementation.
>>> > Regards,
>>> > AHS
>>>
>>> > 

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOC19 getting started and approaching mentor

[Sumit Srivastava]

Checkout issues tagged with different platforms like android, ios, Firefox,
chrome, etc.

You can also test musicblocks blocks on several platforms yourself and
discover issues.


On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 9:13 pm Siddharth Shah, 
wrote:

> I am Siddharth Shah (GitHub 
> ), GSOC19 aspirant,  pursuing Btech (in computer science) from National
> Institute of Technology Raipur, I am from India.
> I'm a javascript lover and full stack developer, a programming enthusiast
> and staying curious always.
>
> I am interested in *Platforms for Music Blocks*
> and *Export Music Blocks code to JavaScript*
>
> can someone help me get started
> I also don't know if this is the correct place to ask queries
> how do I approach mentor and discuss the precise project needs
> I am already running the server locally and getting used to it
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Interested in being a part of SugarLabs

[Sumit Srivastava]

>>>Hi,
>>>I am Aditya Lodha, second-year IT engineering student from Sanjivani
College of Engineering, Kopargaon.
>>>I'm keenly interested in creating Sugar Level activities and be a
contributor.
>>>Can you please help me out.
>>>Kindly waiting for your reply

>>>Thanking you,
>>>Aditya Lodha

Hi Aditya!

You can check out the how to contribute section in
https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/README.md

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 10:36 pm Aditya Lodha, 
wrote:

> Hi,
> I am Aditya Lodha, second-year IT engineering student from Sanjivani
> College of Engineering, Kopargaon.
> I'm keenly interested in creating Sugar Level activities and be a
> contributor.
> Can you please help me out.
> Kindly waiting for your reply
>
> Thanking you,
> Aditya Lodha
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 6:33 PM Sumit Srivastava 
> wrote:
>
>> We're extremely happy to have you here! You can try browsing the
>> repositories, and can start by fixing some minor issues.
>>
>> If you're unsure of where to start, you can start by looking at:
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/languages.md
>>
>> And here are Sugar Docs:
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/README.md
>>
>> You might also want to look at the list of ideas we've published.
>>
>> Welcome to Sugar Labs!
>>
>> Regards
>> Sumit Srivastava
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 6:20 pm Prabhu Pant,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone!
>>>
>>> My name is Prabhu Pant and I'm from Lucknow, India. I am an open source
>>> contributor and have worked with FOSSASIA for almost 8 months, using Python
>>> (Flask) and Angular mainly.
>>> I'd love to be a part of SugarLabs community too and be an
>>> active contributor to various projects. It'd be nice if I could get some
>>> help while starting.
>>>
>>> Waiting for a response.
>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Interested in being a part of SugarLabs

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We're extremely happy to have you here! You can try browsing the
repositories, and can start by fixing some minor issues.

If you're unsure of where to start, you can start by looking at:
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/languages.md

And here are Sugar Docs:
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/README.md

You might also want to look at the list of ideas we've published.

Welcome to Sugar Labs!

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 6:20 pm Prabhu Pant,  wrote:

> Hello everyone!
>
> My name is Prabhu Pant and I'm from Lucknow, India. I am an open source
> contributor and have worked with FOSSASIA for almost 8 months, using Python
> (Flask) and Angular mainly.
> I'd love to be a part of SugarLabs community too and be an
> active contributor to various projects. It'd be nice if I could get some
> help while starting.
>
> Waiting for a response.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOC 2019

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hey Akshat!

Welcome to Sugar Labs! Looking forward to your contributions.

Regards

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 2:46 am Akshat Pande,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am really amazed with the learning and fun activities that Sugarizer
> offers. I am a JavaScript enthusiast and want to work on adding few more
> useful activities to the project. I have completed the activity development
> tutorial and pulled an activity which was rejected due to touch device
> compatibility issue but now I am planning a story maker activity which
> plays instances of a sketch in series. I have started drafting the proposal
> too, looking forward to contribute and be a part of this community.
>
> Regards,
> Akshat Pande
> B.Tech(CSE)
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc 2019 regarding Create sugar dashboard

[Sumit Srivastava]

Great, thanks for the update. That's the spirit!

Also, try not to use Sir while addressing anyone here. You can use first
names. We're all equals.

All the best.

On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, 7:24 pm Ketki Salunkhe, 
wrote:

> Thank You Sir for your valuable explanation. I would like to continue to
> "Create a sugar dashboard" as I have been working on it. I will come up
> with my own decisions and will design the dashboard according to the
> requirements.
>
> Regards Ketki Salunkhe.
>
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 19:13, Sumit Srivastava 
> wrote:
>
>> I think that your best bet is to send mails to sugar-devel and not
>> personally.
>>
>> Always try to cc sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org even when you send
>> emails personally.
>>
>> While I do think that you might want to choose another project if you
>> need a lot of handholding from mentors in this project, you can also use
>> your wisdom to tackle issues and improve the dashboard yourself.
>>
>> Go ahead, design good stuff and start implementing. Just keep in mind who
>> are we making it for (students/kids), why are we making it (to enable
>> learning). This high level understanding of how  things work here will help
>> you make useful decisions yourself.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, 7:03 pm Ketki Salunkhe, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Soo much Sir. I have been trying to send mail to mentors
>>> personally as well from last two days but I haven't received any response
>>> from them. I need help from mentors to design the dashboard as well as to
>>> add functionalities also to know whether I am on the right track. Whom
>>> should I contact?
>>>
>>> Regards Ketki Salunkhe
>>>
>>> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 18:55, Sumit Srivastava 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's been two days since you sent these two emails.
>>>>
>>>> I assume noone responsible has seen this yet, or has no valuable inputs.
>>>>
>>>> I'd suggest you to go ahead whatever you feel is the best. You're free
>>>> to go ahead with whatever makes it easier for users to use it. The target
>>>> age group is 5-13 years so keep that in mind while making decisions.
>>>>
>>>> All the best!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019, 10:41 pm Ketki Salunkhe, <
>>>> salunkheketk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello sir,
>>>>> I  want to know for 'Create sugar dashboard  project'
>>>>> 1. For the dashboard which type of heatmap should be used?
>>>>> 2. For Tamagotchi the XO currently appearing has an on-click activity
>>>>> performed so should I design a widget that will appear on hover of XO?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards Ketki Salunkhe
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc 2019 regarding Create sugar dashboard

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I think that your best bet is to send mails to sugar-devel and not
personally.

Always try to cc sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org even when you send emails
personally.

While I do think that you might want to choose another project if you need
a lot of handholding from mentors in this project, you can also use your
wisdom to tackle issues and improve the dashboard yourself.

Go ahead, design good stuff and start implementing. Just keep in mind who
are we making it for (students/kids), why are we making it (to enable
learning). This high level understanding of how  things work here will help
you make useful decisions yourself.

Regards

On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, 7:03 pm Ketki Salunkhe, 
wrote:

> Thank you Soo much Sir. I have been trying to send mail to mentors
> personally as well from last two days but I haven't received any response
> from them. I need help from mentors to design the dashboard as well as to
> add functionalities also to know whether I am on the right track. Whom
> should I contact?
>
> Regards Ketki Salunkhe
>
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 18:55, Sumit Srivastava 
> wrote:
>
>> It's been two days since you sent these two emails.
>>
>> I assume noone responsible has seen this yet, or has no valuable inputs.
>>
>> I'd suggest you to go ahead whatever you feel is the best. You're free to
>> go ahead with whatever makes it easier for users to use it. The target age
>> group is 5-13 years so keep that in mind while making decisions.
>>
>> All the best!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019, 10:41 pm Ketki Salunkhe, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello sir,
>>> I  want to know for 'Create sugar dashboard  project'
>>> 1. For the dashboard which type of heatmap should be used?
>>> 2. For Tamagotchi the XO currently appearing has an on-click activity
>>> performed so should I design a widget that will appear on hover of XO?
>>>
>>> Regards Ketki Salunkhe
>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc 2019 regarding Create sugar dashboard

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It's been two days since you sent these two emails.

I assume noone responsible has seen this yet, or has no valuable inputs.

I'd suggest you to go ahead whatever you feel is the best. You're free to
go ahead with whatever makes it easier for users to use it. The target age
group is 5-13 years so keep that in mind while making decisions.

All the best!


On Fri, 22 Mar 2019, 10:41 pm Ketki Salunkhe, 
wrote:

> Hello sir,
> I  want to know for 'Create sugar dashboard  project'
> 1. For the dashboard which type of heatmap should be used?
> 2. For Tamagotchi the XO currently appearing has an on-click activity
> performed so should I design a widget that will appear on hover of XO?
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity

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Hey Kushagra!

Regarding your first question:

You'd need to show us that you can actually code and would be able to code
what you proposed in three months of GSoC. This can be done by fixing some
issues, or contributing to the codebase, etc.

Welcome to Sugar Labs!

On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, 11:28 am kushagra nigam, 
wrote:

> Subject : Help needed for the proposal
> Dear Sir,
>
> Last day I was working with with the Sugar activities. I read the
> documentation and setup the environment. I made this hello-world activity
> which was instructed there and even used some of the artworks. I want to
> ask how should I proceed with the project? Should I make a layout on GTK+3
> and push it onto my github (But that'll take some time) or just writing a
> detailed proposal of how will I get along with the project every week would
> do the job? Please help me!!
>
> Secondly i discovered this issue:
> I have installed 'Sucrose' in my Ubuntu. Whenever I logout and login with
> the SUGAR environment, it is good. However when I log out from SUGAR and
> come back to Ubuntu, I still have that big cursor on my screen (The sugar
> one), that is the original cursor is replaced by the SUGAR one. Is this a
> problem with everyone?
> A hack which I came up is to Reset the settings when you come back to
> Ubuntu ( dconf reset -f / ) but that resets each and every setting.
>
> Sincerely
> Kushagra Nigam
>
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 14:20, kushagra nigam 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> I have searched through the Sugar activities like Hangman, Memorize etc.
>> What I meant by the game repositories are the activity repositories of
>> games like these so that I can install these into my device, get to know
>> about the environment better, think about how will I go on to do my task
>> (planning is a necessary thing), and eventually write a detailed proposal.
>> I'm really excited to build this project :)
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Kushagra Nigam
>> kushagra1...@gmail.com
>>
>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 13:34, James Cameron  wrote:
>>
>>> kushagra nigam wrote:
>>> > You are absolutely right. The "they are cheating button" will not
>>> > only serve the purpose of someone writing the text but also if someone
>>> > speaking it up in the public.
>>>
>>> Yes, indeed.
>>>
>>> > I'm up for this task.
>>>
>>> Great!
>>>
>>> > Could you please help me with some of the game repositories(python)
>>> > so that I can get an edge before submitting the final proposal?
>>>
>>> Sorry, I don't understand your question.  What are game repositories?
>>>
>>> All proposals and candidates will be treated fairly, of course.
>>> You'll have the same edge as anyone else.  ;-)
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2019

[Sumit Srivastava]

Great! Look out for issues labeled enhancement too.

Good luck fixing issues.

Welcome to Sugar Labs!

On Fri, 22 Mar 2019, 5:19 pm Akshat Malviya,  wrote:

> Hi!
> I'm Akshat Malviya, a sophomore year student at Indian Institute of
> Technology(IIT) Mandi, India. I've experience with web designing and
> development and I'm looking forward to contribute to the Sugarizer project.
> Specifically, contribute towards enhancing some existing activities. I've
> completed the Sugarizer activity development tutorial series and am
> currently trying to find issues and bugs to fix on the project whilst
> working on the project as well.
> I look forward to contribute to and connect with the community.
>
> Sincerely,
> --
> Akshat Malviya
> B. Tech. Electrical Engineering
> IIT Mandi, H.P. (India) 175005
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc 2019 Participation | ideas | Queries

[Sumit Srivastava]

In addition to what James said:

If you're confused where to post it, just shoot a mail to
sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Also, make sure you don't include a lot of personal information and no
private information.

As far as bonding with the mentors goes, we'd be happy to bond with you
over GitHub issues and comments, preferably. :P

On Fri, 15 Mar 2019, 2:03 am James Cameron,  wrote:

> Welcome.
>
> Use gitter, IRC, GitHub, or mailing list, depending on who you want to
> talk to, and especially how the talk _should_ be heard by others.
>
> A few of our previous GSoC students have made the most amazing
> mistakes or wasted time by working without a wider community
> consensus.
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
> says
>
> "Try to find the appropriate forum for your topic, level or expertises,
> or language. If you come across a post that is in an incorrect forum,
> please respectfully redirect the poster to the appropriate."
>
> Other projects we work with, such as Debian, have in their social
> contract not to hide problems.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc 2019 Participation | ideas | Queries

[Sumit Srivastava]

We're on IRC and Gitter too.

I guess you'd find the gitter channels "cooler" rather than "hotter". ;-)

https://gitter.im/Sugar-Labs


On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, 6:55 pm prasad gujar,  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> I am Prasad Gujar ,final year student at University of Mumbai,India with
> Major in information technology.I want to participate in Gsoc 2019 with
> sugar lab this year. I have good experience of software development both in
> front and back end development and working on machine learning project for
> last 2years.i m having query regarding how to interact with mentors and
> community apart from mailing list.is there any possibility of sugar lab
> creating slack channel/ hotter channel for communication like other
> organisations.it will be very helpful for me and whole community.
> Let me know your thoughts on this.
> Thank and regards,
> Prasad Gujar
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[Sugar-devel] Reminder: Inviting suggestions to good first issues on musicblocks repository

[Sumit Srivastava]

I've been trying to label good first issues, for our super new members in
musicblocks repository.

Even though I've been doing my best, I can't be fully aware of all the 249
issues on musicblocks.

If you're aware of any issues that might help as labels for good beginner
issues, please reply to this thread with the name/link/number/id of the
issue. Anything works!

Please also mention why would it be a good beginner issue in a line or two.
Those involved with musicblocks are expected to reply. :)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Create a new set of activity GSoC project

[Sumit Srivastava]

Please do! Guidelines regarding starting new activities are present in
documentation.

Regards


On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm Gautham santhosh, 
wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> I would like to create a rubik's cube solving game as a new activity for
> sugar desktop, I feel since the new activities are targeted more towards
> primary school children this would be very useful. Solving rubiks cube will
> increase one's problem-solving skills and also train one's brain
> to memorise and map things in their order.  I would like to hear your
> suggestions.
> --
>
> Regards,
> Gautham Santhosh
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[Sugar-devel] Inviting suggestions to good first issues on musicblocks

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi, I've been trying to label good first issues, for our super new members
in musicblocks repository.

Even though I've been doing my best, I can't be fully aware of all the 249
issues on MB.

If you're aware of any issues that might help as labels for good beginner
issues, please reply to this thread with the name/link/number/id of the
issue. Anything works.

Also mention why would it be a good beginner issue in a line or two. Devs
involved with musicblocks are expected to reply.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Contribution to sugar labs

[Sumit Srivastava]

James, that's great! Yup, I agree. ;-)

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 4:18 am James Cameron,  wrote:

> We have a link in contributing.md;
>
> "We use the pull-request model, see [GitHub's help on pull-request](
> https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests)."
>
> But people can't be expected to remember everything.  ;-)
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 02:24:44AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > While I agree googling is an essential skill, we should probably add it
> in
> > docs, no?
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 2:20 am James Cameron, <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here's how to do it;
> >
> > [2]https://help.github.com/en/articles/creating-a-pull-request
> >
> > Our Sugar Labs documents for contributing don't have every answer,
> > sorry.  Some skills are external.
> >
> > By the way, if you had made a local "git clone" on your own computer,
> > then done a "git push", the server will have sent back instructions
> > how to make a pull request.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 01:54:51AM +0530, navyasri reddy wrote:
> > > I have changed the readme and pushed to forked repo in my github
> account.
> > How
> > > do I raise a pull request to original repo. I have seen the docs
> for
> > > contributing but didn't get it much.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:15 AM Sumit Srivastava <[1][3]
> > sumitsrisu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, Jaskirat. The reply all button is a wonderful little
> thing and
> > poses
> > > much less friction than new members would otherwise experience.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 12:06 am Jaskirat Singh, <[2][4]
> > juskirat2...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Sumit,
> > >
> > > This sounds like a better choice for the people helping new
> > > contributors to get started.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 12:04 am Sumit Srivastava, <[3]
> > > [5]sumitsrisu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Navya,
> > >
> > > Good to see you figuring out the codebase! Check out
> > instructions
> > > on downloading and running musicblocks. It should be
> present
> > in the
> > > musicblocks documentation. It states:
> > >
> > > "If you want to run Music Blocks offline, download
> this repo
> > and
> > > point your browser to the index.html file found in the
> > musicblocks
> > > directory on your local file system."
> > >
> > > Also, if you post your questions directly to [4]
> > > [6]sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org , more people can
> come in
> > and
> > > contribute. I am sorry if you had a rough start but
> rest
> > assured,
> > >     the community is awesome!
> > >
> > > I'll be available at sugar-devel mailing list and so
> would be
> > a lot
> > > other experienced developers in the community. Always
> better
> > to
> > > expose your questions to more people, right? For this
> thread,
> > you
> > > can use "reply-all" button on gmail to directly post to
> > sugarlabs
> > > devel list and me.
> > >
> > > Keep asking questions! :)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Sumit Srivastava
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 11:51 pm navyasri reddy, <[5]
> > > [7]navyasrireddy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey,
> > > Thanks for helping me out with this. I have found
> through
> > the
> > > other issues that the sound sample need to have
> same
> > pitch
> > > through out which is not mentioned in the readme
> and also
> > > testing whether the sound is added properly or not
> is
> > also not
> > > there in the readme.
> &g

Re: [Sugar-devel] Contribution to sugar labs

[Sumit Srivastava]

I meant to reference the skill of "creating pull requests and contributing"
and not "googling". Just clarifying that it wasn't a snarky remark.

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 2:24 am Sumit Srivastava, 
wrote:

> While I agree googling is an essential skill, we should probably add it in
> docs, no?
>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 2:20 am James Cameron,  wrote:
>
>> Here's how to do it;
>>
>> https://help.github.com/en/articles/creating-a-pull-request
>>
>> Our Sugar Labs documents for contributing don't have every answer,
>> sorry.  Some skills are external.
>>
>> By the way, if you had made a local "git clone" on your own computer,
>> then done a "git push", the server will have sent back instructions
>> how to make a pull request.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 01:54:51AM +0530, navyasri reddy wrote:
>> > I have changed the readme and pushed to forked repo in my github
>> account. How
>> > do I raise a pull request to original repo. I have seen the docs for
>> > contributing but didn't get it much.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:15 AM Sumit Srivastava <[1]
>> sumitsrisu...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Yes, Jaskirat. The reply all button is a wonderful little thing and
>> poses
>> > much less friction than new members would otherwise experience.
>> >
>> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 12:06 am Jaskirat Singh, <[2]
>> juskirat2...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks Sumit,
>> >
>> > This sounds like a better choice for the people helping new
>> > contributors to get started.
>> >
>> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 12:04 am Sumit Srivastava, <[3]
>> > sumitsrisu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Navya,
>> >
>> > Good to see you figuring out the codebase! Check out
>> instructions
>> > on downloading and running musicblocks. It should be
>> present in the
>> > musicblocks documentation. It states:
>> >
>> > "If you want to run Music Blocks offline, download this
>> repo and
>> > point your browser to the index.html file found in the
>> musicblocks
>> > directory on your local file system."
>> >
>> > Also, if you post your questions directly to [4]
>> > sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org , more people can come in
>> and
>> > contribute. I am sorry if you had a rough start but rest
>> assured,
>> > the community is awesome!
>> >
>> > I'll be available at sugar-devel mailing list and so would
>> be a lot
>> > other experienced developers in the community. Always
>> better to
>> > expose your questions to more people, right? For this
>> thread, you
>> > can use "reply-all" button on gmail to directly post to
>> sugarlabs
>> > devel list and me.
>> >
>> > Keep asking questions! :)
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Sumit Srivastava
>> >
>> > On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 11:51 pm navyasri reddy, <[5]
>> >     navyasrireddy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey,
>> > Thanks for helping me out with this. I have found
>> through the
>> > other issues that the sound sample need to have same
>> pitch
>> > through out which is not mentioned in the readme and
>> also
>> > testing whether the sound is added properly or not is
>> also not
>> > there in the readme.
>> > I am not sure how to test it. Can you direct me so that
>> i can
>> > test and update readme.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 7:08 PM Sumit Srivastava <[6]
>> > sumitsrisu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi, navyasri!
>> >
>> > It'd be great if you post publicly to the sugar
>> devel
>> > mailing list. While I have no problem with replying
>> to your
>> > question privately, the community as a whole
>> benefi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Contribution to sugar labs

[Sumit Srivastava]

While I agree googling is an essential skill, we should probably add it in
docs, no?

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 2:20 am James Cameron,  wrote:

> Here's how to do it;
>
> https://help.github.com/en/articles/creating-a-pull-request
>
> Our Sugar Labs documents for contributing don't have every answer,
> sorry.  Some skills are external.
>
> By the way, if you had made a local "git clone" on your own computer,
> then done a "git push", the server will have sent back instructions
> how to make a pull request.
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 01:54:51AM +0530, navyasri reddy wrote:
> > I have changed the readme and pushed to forked repo in my github
> account. How
> > do I raise a pull request to original repo. I have seen the docs for
> > contributing but didn't get it much.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:15 AM Sumit Srivastava <[1]
> sumitsrisu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Yes, Jaskirat. The reply all button is a wonderful little thing and
> poses
> > much less friction than new members would otherwise experience.
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 12:06 am Jaskirat Singh, <[2]
> juskirat2...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Sumit,
> >
> > This sounds like a better choice for the people helping new
> > contributors to get started.
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 12:04 am Sumit Srivastava, <[3]
> > sumitsrisu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Navya,
> >
> > Good to see you figuring out the codebase! Check out
> instructions
> > on downloading and running musicblocks. It should be present
> in the
> > musicblocks documentation. It states:
> >
> > "If you want to run Music Blocks offline, download this repo
> and
> > point your browser to the index.html file found in the
> musicblocks
> > directory on your local file system."
> >
> > Also, if you post your questions directly to [4]
> > sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org , more people can come in
> and
> > contribute. I am sorry if you had a rough start but rest
> assured,
> > the community is awesome!
> >
> > I'll be available at sugar-devel mailing list and so would
> be a lot
> > other experienced developers in the community. Always better
> to
> > expose your questions to more people, right? For this
> thread, you
> > can use "reply-all" button on gmail to directly post to
> sugarlabs
> > devel list and me.
> >
> > Keep asking questions! :)
> >
> > Regards
> > Sumit Srivastava
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 11:51 pm navyasri reddy, <[5]
> > navyasrireddy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey,
> > Thanks for helping me out with this. I have found
> through the
> > other issues that the sound sample need to have same
> pitch
> > through out which is not mentioned in the readme and also
> > testing whether the sound is added properly or not is
> also not
> > there in the readme.
> > I am not sure how to test it. Can you direct me so that
> i can
> > test and update readme.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 7:08 PM Sumit Srivastava <[6]
> > sumitsrisu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, navyasri!
> >
> > It'd be great if you post publicly to the sugar devel
> > mailing list. While I have no problem with replying
> to your
> > question privately, the community as a whole
> benefits more
> > from public discussions like these.
> >
> > Don't worry you can post all kinds of beginner
> questions,
> > even the one you think might be silly, to the
> mailing list.
> > :)
> >
> > Here are the steps to approach the issue:
> >
> > -Fork the branch.
> >
> >     -Take a look at the instructions to add sample sound.
> >
> > -Try and do it yourself.
> >
> > -Did you find in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Contribution to sugar labs

[Sumit Srivastava]

Yes, Jaskirat. The reply all button is a wonderful little thing and poses
much less friction than new members would otherwise experience.

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 12:06 am Jaskirat Singh, 
wrote:

> Thanks Sumit,
>
> This sounds like a better choice for the people helping new contributors
> to get started.
>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 12:04 am Sumit Srivastava, 
> wrote:
>
>> Navya,
>>
>> Good to see you figuring out the codebase! Check out instructions on
>> downloading and running musicblocks. It should be present in the
>> musicblocks documentation. It states:
>>
>> "*If you want to run Music Blocks offline, download this repo and point
>> your browser to the index.html file found in the musicblocks directory on
>> your local file system."*
>>
>> Also, if you post your questions directly to
>> sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org , more people can come in and
>> contribute. I am sorry if you had a rough start but rest assured, the
>> community is awesome!
>>
>> I'll be available at sugar-devel mailing list and so would be a lot other
>> experienced developers in the community. Always better to expose your
>> questions to more people, right? For this thread, you can use "reply-all"
>> button on gmail to directly post to sugarlabs devel list and me.
>>
>> Keep asking questions! :)
>>
>> Regards
>> Sumit Srivastava
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 11:51 pm navyasri reddy, <
>> navyasrireddy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>> Thanks for helping me out with this. I have found through the other
>>> issues that the sound sample need to have same pitch through out which is
>>> not mentioned in the readme and also testing whether the sound is added
>>> properly or not is also not there in the readme.
>>> I am not sure how to test it. Can you direct me so that i can test and
>>> update readme.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 7:08 PM Sumit Srivastava <
>>> sumitsrisu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, navyasri!
>>>>
>>>> It'd be great if you post publicly to the sugar devel mailing list.
>>>> While I have no problem with replying to your question privately, the
>>>> community as a whole benefits more from public discussions like these.
>>>>
>>>> Don't worry you can post all kinds of beginner questions, even the one
>>>> you think might be silly, to the mailing list. :)
>>>>
>>>> Here are the steps to approach the issue:
>>>>
>>>> -Fork the branch.
>>>>
>>>> -Take a look at the instructions to add sample sound.
>>>>
>>>> -Try and do it yourself.
>>>>
>>>> -Did you find instructions were useful? Do they need to be updated?
>>>> (Hint: Yes, because of which the issue was created)
>>>>
>>>> -Figure out how can you better explain the process you followed to add
>>>> a sample sound.
>>>>
>>>> -Write it down.
>>>>
>>>> -Commit to your branch, test, and then request to merge.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Sumit Srivastava
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, 2:16 pm navyasri reddy, <
>>>> navyasrireddy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>> This is navyasri. I wan to contribute to music blocks by starting with
>>>>> some basic contribution (below attached). This is about updating readme 
>>>>> but
>>>>> I am not clear with the issue. There's no reply to extra information on
>>>>> this issue. A help for this would be appreciated.
>>>>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/issues/1468
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> navyasri
>>>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Contribution to sugar labs

[Sumit Srivastava]

Navya,

Good to see you figuring out the codebase! Check out instructions on
downloading and running musicblocks. It should be present in the
musicblocks documentation. It states:

"*If you want to run Music Blocks offline, download this repo and point
your browser to the index.html file found in the musicblocks directory on
your local file system."*

Also, if you post your questions directly to sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
, more people can come in and contribute. I am sorry if you had a rough
start but rest assured, the community is awesome!

I'll be available at sugar-devel mailing list and so would be a lot other
experienced developers in the community. Always better to expose your
questions to more people, right? For this thread, you can use "reply-all"
button on gmail to directly post to sugarlabs devel list and me.

Keep asking questions! :)

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 11:51 pm navyasri reddy, 
wrote:

> Hey,
> Thanks for helping me out with this. I have found through the other issues
> that the sound sample need to have same pitch through out which is not
> mentioned in the readme and also testing whether the sound is added
> properly or not is also not there in the readme.
> I am not sure how to test it. Can you direct me so that i can test and
> update readme.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 7:08 PM Sumit Srivastava 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, navyasri!
>>
>> It'd be great if you post publicly to the sugar devel mailing list. While
>> I have no problem with replying to your question privately, the community
>> as a whole benefits more from public discussions like these.
>>
>> Don't worry you can post all kinds of beginner questions, even the one
>> you think might be silly, to the mailing list. :)
>>
>> Here are the steps to approach the issue:
>>
>> -Fork the branch.
>>
>> -Take a look at the instructions to add sample sound.
>>
>> -Try and do it yourself.
>>
>> -Did you find instructions were useful? Do they need to be updated?
>> (Hint: Yes, because of which the issue was created)
>>
>> -Figure out how can you better explain the process you followed to add a
>> sample sound.
>>
>> -Write it down.
>>
>> -Commit to your branch, test, and then request to merge.
>>
>> Regards
>> Sumit Srivastava
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, 2:16 pm navyasri reddy, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>> This is navyasri. I wan to contribute to music blocks by starting with
>>> some basic contribution (below attached). This is about updating readme but
>>> I am not clear with the issue. There's no reply to extra information on
>>> this issue. A help for this would be appreciated.
>>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/issues/1468
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> navyasri
>>>
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizer app: Language list setting

[Sumit Srivastava]

What I'd do would be:

Open an issue, send a fix, then close the issue.

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 10:01 am Dave Yashashvi, 
wrote:

> Hi! I am Yashashvi, and I was following the tutorial and I was wondering
> if we should change languages in `Language setting` to not be translated
> according to local/browser language. So "English" should be "English" even
> if my local language of browser is "French" or something else. Does this
> make sense? Should I open an GitHub issue for this or PR?
>
> The reason of this request:
> When I was following tutorial and changed my local language to "French",
> according to step 5
> ,
> languages list in setting also changed, and I was not able to change
> language back to "English" as I couldn't understand which one of the option
> was "English" as all options were translated to "French".
> I am talking about this
> 
>  setting.
>
> --
> Thanks and regards
> Yashashvi Dave
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSOD announced by Google

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Good part being that it doesn't overlap with GSoC coding. Interesting.

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, 11:51 pm Jaskirat Singh, 
wrote:

> Its glad to say that Google Open source officially announced about Google
> Season of Docs that would help Open source organisations/projects to have
> good impact on its Documentation by Technical Writers.
>
>
> https://opensource.googleblog.com/2019/03/introducing-season-of-docs.html?m=1
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Contribution to sugar labs

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi, navyasri!

It'd be great if you post publicly to the sugar devel mailing list. While I
have no problem with replying to your question privately, the community as
a whole benefits more from public discussions like these.

Don't worry you can post all kinds of beginner questions, even the one you
think might be silly, to the mailing list. :)

Here are the steps to approach the issue:

-Fork the branch.

-Take a look at the instructions to add sample sound.

-Try and do it yourself.

-Did you find instructions were useful? Do they need to be updated? (Hint:
Yes, because of which the issue was created)

-Figure out how can you better explain the process you followed to add a
sample sound.

-Write it down.

-Commit to your branch, test, and then request to merge.

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, 2:16 pm navyasri reddy, 
wrote:

> Hey,
> This is navyasri. I wan to contribute to music blocks by starting with
> some basic contribution (below attached). This is about updating readme but
> I am not clear with the issue. There's no reply to extra information on
> this issue. A help for this would be appreciated.
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/issues/1468
>
> Thanks,
> navyasri
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Re: [Sugar-devel] IRC Channel

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If it's a question, mostly you'll get a reply within minutes on sugar
devel.

Welcome to Sugar Labs! :)

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, 5:36 pm Ahmed Khaled,  wrote:

> Hey dudes and girls, I was wondering if there's a fixed time where you
> guys are online on the IRC channel since I've been lurking for a week now
> and haven't found any activity!
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Re: [Sugar-devel] IRC Channel

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You can always post on sugar devel and expect a reply within 3 to 4 hours
from someone, at max. I'm happy to help.

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

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> Hey dudes and girls, I was wondering if there's a fixed time where you
> guys are online on the IRC channel since I've been lurking for a week now
> and haven't found any activity!
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding contribution to sugarlabs

[Sumit Srivastava]

I apologise on the behalf of OLPC and Sugar Labs community.

To Michael Gill:
We hope to be inclusive to all and if something that you felt was over the
top or non inclusive, please express yourself freely. And yes, Mozilla
community is excellent and we hope to be as loving and productive here as
any other community in the world.

To navyasri:
We're extremely happy to have you here! You can try browsing the
repositories, and can start by fixing some minor issues.

If you're unsure of where to start, you can start by looking at:
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/languages.md

And here are Sugar Docs:
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/README.md

Welcome to Sugar Labs, navyasri!

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019, 3:44 am James Cameron,  wrote:

> G'day Michael,
>
> Thanks for your opinion.  I wasn't intending to be rude, and I gave as
> much information as I could.  I do want people to contribute.
>
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 04:45:14PM -0500, Michael Gill wrote:
> > G'day James,
> >
> > Please read my middle finger.  It says, "How to get people to NOT
> contribute to
> > an open-source project."
> >
> > There are plenty of ways to give back.  Sugar is obviously not a good
> one.
> > I'll look for projects where people aren't so rude.  For example,
> Mozilla is
> > not quite so high-minded as OLPC, but I've really had good experience
> with
> > their project management and their people.  I recommend people look
> there.
> >
> > Adios Asshole!
> > Michael Gill
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:49 PM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > G'day Navyasri,
> >
> > Thanks for asking.  Tell us how you are confused and why you need
> > help?
> >
> > Your question was not insightful.  You don't seem to be able to help
> > yourself.  Please read "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way";
> >
> > [2]http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> > Your question looks just the same as many of the other questions
> we've
> > been receiving.  It's not a good approach to solving problems.
> Please
> > read the article "How to ask for directions";
> >
> > [3]
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-October/
> > 055788.html
> >
> > See also "How to get started as a Sugar Labs developer [v5]"
> >
> > [4]
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-February/
> > 056304.html
> >
> > Once you've read all those, ask a new question, on the mailing list
> if
> > the question is general, or on an issue if specfic to an issue.
> >
> > p.s. you didn't need to say who you are, because it was already in
> > your e-mail address.
> >
> > p.p.s. you didn't need to say you were at any specific university;
> > because it really does not matter.  What does matter is working
> source
> > code.  Show us that, and we're interested.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 12:50:52AM +0530, navyasri reddy wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am navyasri from IIIT Hyderabad. I am 5th year student and want
> to
> > contribute
> > > to sugarlabs to the second one on maintaining sugar activities. I
> have
> > seen the
> > > help documentation for starters but i am a bit confused from where
> to
> > start. A
> > > little help would be great to start.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Navyasri
> >
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> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [2] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > [3]
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-October/055788.html
> > [4]
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-February/056304.html
> > [5] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [6] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [7] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [8] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [9] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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Re: [Sugar-devel] New member

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You told me you checked out musicblocks and turtleblocks codebase. Great
start!

Check out some issues of musicblocks and see if you can solve them. This
will get you familiar with the codebase.

Welcome to Sugar Labs!

On Sun, 3 Mar 2019, 11:54 pm HARSHIT VERMA,  wrote:

> Hello everyone, this is Harshit Verma first year UG student at IIT Roorkee.
> I went through the codebase of sugarlabs, and very much impressed.
> I am aiming too for GSOC 2019. I want to know about proposed activities
> which are not yet complete. And I am beginner in open source so do tell
> some tips for it.
>
> Thank you.
> Regards
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: GSoC 2019: Sugar Labs has been accepted as a mentor organization!

[Sumit Srivastava]

Congratulations!

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019, 7:10 am Amaan Iqbal,  wrote:

> Amazing!!
>
> Congratulations to us!
>
> On Feb 26, 2019 4:26 AM, "Samson Goddy"  wrote:
>
>> Awesome!
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 8:47 PM Walter Bender 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Google Summer of Code 
>>> Date: Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 1:16 PM
>>> Subject: GSoC 2019: Sugar Labs has been accepted as a mentor
>>> organization!
>>> To: 
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Google Summer of Code]
>>>
>>> Congratulations! Sugar Labs has been selected as a Google Summer of Code
>>> 2019 mentor organization.
>>>
>>> The list of accepted 2019 GSoC mentoring organizations will be published
>>> at February 26, 2019 20:00 UTC at https://g.co/gsoc.
>>>
>>> After it is published, you will be able to invite mentors and update
>>> your organization profile.
>>>
>>> We've let you know before the public announcement, so you can make sure
>>> your project ideas are ready for students to review and your org admins and
>>> mentors are ready to answer emails from prospective students.
>>>
>>> Please click here to visit your dashboard:
>>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/dashboard/
>>>
>>> This email was sent to walter.ben...@gmail.com.
>>>
>>> You are receiving this email because of your participation in Google
>>> Summer of Code 2019.
>>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com
>>>
>>> To leave the program and stop receiving all emails, you can go to your
>>> profile  and
>>> request deletion of your program profile.
>>>
>>> For any questions, please contact gsoc-supp...@google.com. Replies to
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>>>
>>> © 2019 Google LLC, 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043,
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>>> 
>>>
>>>
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[Sugar-devel] I shared musicblocks on Hacker News and this happened

[Sumit Srivastava]

Hi, devs!

The post didn't reach the front page but we got some useful feedback.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19118738

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Re: [Sugar-devel] GCI'18 Report

[Sumit Srivastava]

Interesting report, thanks for making it available!

Thank you to all the mentors who made this possible.

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019, 9:01 pm Walter Bender,  wrote:

> Thanks for pulling together this report.
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 9:38 AM Chihurumnaya Ibiam <
> ibiamchihurumn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> This is a report about last year's GCI.
>>
>> 674 students participated. Of those, 245 completed at least one task.
>> The most popular task completed by students was our beginner task: "Make
>> a Pull Request", which was completed by 100 students. 60 students completed
>> the "Install the Sugar Environment" task.
>>
>> • Briefly what was merged; that is, the work that has become part of
>>   the Sugar Labs software.
>>
>> We have about 91 PRs that were merged,
>>
>> Sugar/Activities = 20
>> Sugarizer = 20
>> MusicBlocks = 38
>> TurtleBlocks = 2
>> Sugar Social = 6
>> Sugar Website = 5
>>
>> • Briefly what remains to be merged; work of value that we should
>>   focus on completing ourselves.
>>
>> These are the open PRs from gci students
>> https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5046504289992704/
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/musicblocks/pull/1626
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/pull/401
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/cookie-search-activity/pull/17
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/Bounce/pull/13
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/gmail-activity/pull/28
>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/block-party-activity/pull/7
>> https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/pull/103
>>
>> There are 12 PRs that were not merged in Music Blocks, a handful of which
>> are still under review.
>>
>> • Briefly what won't be merged; work that we don't see value in merging.
>>
>> A lot of the design tasks won't be merged but they'll be used for
>> marketing.
>>
>> One of the tasks we had was to gather contributors data from the wiki and
>> translations, they won't be merged but we're making use of the data for our
>> contributors page, and the contributors page still has an open PR
>> <https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs/pull/251> being worked on by
>> one of the students, although that wasn't a GCI project but it's
>> something we need to complete.
>>
>> • What funding Google provided,
>> We received $2500 midway through the competition.
>> We also received $2200 earlier this month for the mentor's trip to
>> Silicon valley.
>>
>> • What travel we should expect to fund, e.g. a mentor to a summit,
>> We should expect to fund about $2200 for a mentor.
>>
>> • How our new mentors performed
>> Our new mentors did well as they responded to the students in a timely
>> manner.
>>
>> And sometimes it seemed there were conflicts between the mentors, where
>> one would request something from a student and another would request
>> something else thereby confusing the student about what to do.
>> This is legitimate and why Walter asked that only a select group of
>> mentors sign off on tasks to begin with, that request was occasionally
>> ignored. Might be something that Google need to add for next time.
>>
>> When the competition started, some non coding tasks were accepted
>> although they weren't of high quality, but this stopped as we moved further
>> into the competition.
>> Walter and I in our emails added that tasks of low quality shouldn't be
>> accepted as a reminder to the mentors.
>>
>> • Your overall impression of this event
>>
>> The event was fun and I enjoyed every bit of it.
>>
>> • How we might improve next year.
>>
>> It may seem like conventional wisdom that some of our mentors lacked
>> knowledge about some tasks or weren't contributors to Sugar Labs but every
>> mentor had previously contributed to Sugar Labs in one way or another.
>>
>> It'll be great if the tasks we want are agreed upon as an org, as this
>> gives a definite direction and narrows down the type of tasks we have.
>>
>> Although it seems as if we got little if any help from the  community in
>> generating task ideas. It was all on the shoulders of just a few of us.
>> That needs to improve. And I think we had too many open-ended design tasks
>> -- we should pare back that somewhat next year, but not eliminate them.
>> (They are required by Google, for one thing.) Maybe structure them such
>> that a student can only do 1 or 2 simple design tasks by marking them as
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sl.org Down?

[Sumit Srivastava]

Can't access it too.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2019, 5:46 pm Vipul Gupta,  wrote:

> Just tried on Chrome, can't seem to access it.
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 4:17 PM Samson Goddy 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is it just me or is https://www.sugarlabs.org down?
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Programming Languages

[Sumit Srivastava]

Not specifically me, since I've been here for long; but for the new coders
willing to join the mission and appropriately put their skillset to use by
finding the right repositories.

Regards
Sumit

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 6:53 am James Cameron,  wrote:

> No, it wasn't, I added it when you suggested.  But I'm still
> interested in how you will use it; how is it useful to you?
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 05:58:35AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > Seems like it already is at the right place.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sumit
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 5:54 am James Cameron, <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks.  How is it useful to you?
> >
> > [2]
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/languages.md
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 01:26:37AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > > Is this on some wiki? If it isn't, I'll create one because it's
> useful.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 11:21 am James Cameron, <[1][3]
> qu...@laptop.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > # Sugar Labs Programming Languages
> > >
> > > At Sugar Labs we have opportunities for contributing with many
> > > different programming languages and libraries; [...]
> >
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> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [2] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/languages.md
> > [3] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [4] http://quozl.netrek.org/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Programming Languages

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Seems like it already is at the right place.

Thanks
Sumit

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019, 5:54 am James Cameron,  wrote:

> Thanks.  How is it useful to you?
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/languages.md
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 01:26:37AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> > Is this on some wiki? If it isn't, I'll create one because it's useful.
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 11:21 am James Cameron, <[1]qu...@laptop.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > # Sugar Labs Programming Languages
> >
> > At Sugar Labs we have opportunities for contributing with many
> > different programming languages and libraries; [...]
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Programming Languages

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Is this on some wiki? If it isn't, I'll create one because it's useful.

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 11:21 am James Cameron,  wrote:

> # Sugar Labs Programming Languages
>
> At Sugar Labs we have opportunities for contributing with many
> different programming languages and libraries;
>
> ## Python, PyGObject, GTK+, Pygame, GStreamer,
>
> * Sugar,
> * Activities for Sugar,
> * Sugar Toolkit (API),
> * Sugar Datastore (API),
>
> ## JavaScript, HTML5 and CSS
>
> * Sugarizer,
> * Music Blocks,
> * Activities for Sugarizer or Sugar,
> * Sugar Web (API),
> * Browse, Help and Wikipedia activities for Sugar,
>
> ## C
>
> * Paint activity for Sugar,
> * Sugar Toolkit (API; display session management, audio),
> * gst-plugins-espeak (API; GStreamer, GObject),
> * sugarize (API; X11),
> * Sugar Runner,
> * Prosody Jabber/XMPP server jabber.sugarlabs.org,
> * Telepathy (API; collaboration),
> * Wikipedia activity for Sugar (data compression algorithms),
>
> ## PHP
>
> * activities.sugarlabs.org, the activity store,
>
> ## C#
>
> * RiverHex activity for Sugar,
>
> ## Shell
>
> * Sugar,
> * build tools,
>
> ## Anything New
>
> * as long as it works, and you can demonstrate it works, and it
>   doesn't make something more complicated than it needs to be, it is
>   probably welcome.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Suggestion on moving from IRC to Gitter

[Sumit Srivastava]

+1 for Gitter over IRC given the recent spam tackling measures taken by
freenode.

Other advantages have already been mentioned, I raised this concern over
mailing list too.

It's high time we consider a switch.

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, 5:58 pm Vipul Gupta,  wrote:

> I do agree with Rahul over the change on communication mediums. This
> discussion rose a bit at the start of GSoC 2018 as well, with many fellow
> contributors who wanted to apply to Sugar Labs didn't because they could
> get a response. And yes, its absolutely okay for a time to have no people
> in the room to help. But with Gitter's ability to hold conversations, have
> plugins for GitHub and make rooms. We should definitely give it a shot to
> see how it pays off in the long run.
>
> The learning curve with IRC does instill a thing of learning or two among
> all of us. I for one asked my questions on IRC after thoroughly searching
> the web and all the resources I have. Since I always knew the importance
> of  "Software is free. Time is not." Things taking time to figure out, is
> good. But not when its spent on communication mediums by prospective
> contributors. They just want to start contributing. And fast. I think
> Gitter can help here.
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:48 PM Rahul Bothra  wrote:
>
>> I am proposing a change in the communication medium from IRC to Gitter.
>> I've made a Gitter Community at https://gitter.im/Sugar-Labs, for people
>> to try it out. In case people don't like the change, we can shut it down
>> and stick to IRC.
>>
>> Following are my reasons for the change;
>>
>> New users can't see the past conversations, which is useful at times
>>
>> Many active contributors don't run an all time online instance,
>> and can't read unresolved doubts asked when they were offline
>>
>> If a new user doesn't get a response for some time, he tends to
>> quit IRC (observation) and it's difficult to look him up and resolve
>> his query. This *might *lead to contributors thinking that the org is i
>> nactive
>>
>> Since we are diverse, we can use different channels for each;
>> Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, Design, Website.
>> This will make discussions more organised and easy to look up
>> Implementing this on IRC could increase problems of inactivity
>> even more.
>>
>> D. Joe gave a reason[1] against the switch that every other chat
>> systems has their own advantages.
>> I don't mind using any chat system which can curb these issues.
>>
>> I am now comfortable in using IRC because:
>>  - I *somewhat* understood how it works, but it took time to figure out
>>  - I now know at what time might a contributor come online,
>>but it took time to figure out
>>  - I now know which contributor works on what, so I can ask via mail,
>>if IRC doesn't help, but it took time to figure out
>>
>> There are obvious workarounds for all these, but then it's better if new
>> contributors devote 'time to figure out' code instead ;-)
>>
>> [1]:
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055064.html
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Suggestion on moving from IRC to Gitter

[Sumit Srivastava]

Here's a relevant discussion regarding adoption Gitter I started about 11
months ago:

https://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055061.html


Here are other relevant discussions:

http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2017-September/054825.html

and here:

https://github.com/hylang/hy/issues/1357#issuecomment-331543249

I'd still prefer Gitter, having used most alternatives to IRC, and the IRC
itself.

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, 5:58 pm Vipul Gupta,  wrote:

> I do agree with Rahul over the change on communication mediums. This
> discussion rose a bit at the start of GSoC 2018 as well, with many fellow
> contributors who wanted to apply to Sugar Labs didn't because they could
> get a response. And yes, its absolutely okay for a time to have no people
> in the room to help. But with Gitter's ability to hold conversations, have
> plugins for GitHub and make rooms. We should definitely give it a shot to
> see how it pays off in the long run.
>
> The learning curve with IRC does instill a thing of learning or two among
> all of us. I for one asked my questions on IRC after thoroughly searching
> the web and all the resources I have. Since I always knew the importance
> of  "Software is free. Time is not." Things taking time to figure out, is
> good. But not when its spent on communication mediums by prospective
> contributors. They just want to start contributing. And fast. I think
> Gitter can help here.
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:48 PM Rahul Bothra  wrote:
>
>> I am proposing a change in the communication medium from IRC to Gitter.
>> I've made a Gitter Community at https://gitter.im/Sugar-Labs, for people
>> to try it out. In case people don't like the change, we can shut it down
>> and stick to IRC.
>>
>> Following are my reasons for the change;
>>
>> New users can't see the past conversations, which is useful at times
>>
>> Many active contributors don't run an all time online instance,
>> and can't read unresolved doubts asked when they were offline
>>
>> If a new user doesn't get a response for some time, he tends to
>> quit IRC (observation) and it's difficult to look him up and resolve
>> his query. This *might *lead to contributors thinking that the org is i
>> nactive
>>
>> Since we are diverse, we can use different channels for each;
>> Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, Design, Website.
>> This will make discussions more organised and easy to look up
>> Implementing this on IRC could increase problems of inactivity
>> even more.
>>
>> D. Joe gave a reason[1] against the switch that every other chat
>> systems has their own advantages.
>> I don't mind using any chat system which can curb these issues.
>>
>> I am now comfortable in using IRC because:
>>  - I *somewhat* understood how it works, but it took time to figure out
>>  - I now know at what time might a contributor come online,
>>but it took time to figure out
>>  - I now know which contributor works on what, so I can ask via mail,
>>if IRC doesn't help, but it took time to figure out
>>
>> There are obvious workarounds for all these, but then it's better if new
>> contributors devote 'time to figure out' code instead ;-)
>>
>> [1]:
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055064.html
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Suggestion on moving from IRC to Gitter

[Sumit Srivastava]

Here's a relevant discussion regarding adoption Gitter I started about 11
months ago:

https://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055061.html


Here are other relevant discussions:

http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2017-September/054825.html

and here:

https://github.com/hylang/hy/issues/1357#issuecomment-331543249

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, 7:08 pm Sumit Srivastava, 
wrote:

> +1 for Gitter over IRC given the recent spam tackling measures taken by
> freenode.
>
> Other advantages have already been mentioned, I raised this concern over
> mailing list too.
>
> It's high time we consider a switch.
>
> Regards
> Sumit Srivastava
>
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, 5:58 pm Vipul Gupta, 
> wrote:
>
>> I do agree with Rahul over the change on communication mediums. This
>> discussion rose a bit at the start of GSoC 2018 as well, with many fellow
>> contributors who wanted to apply to Sugar Labs didn't because they could
>> get a response. And yes, its absolutely okay for a time to have no people
>> in the room to help. But with Gitter's ability to hold conversations, have
>> plugins for GitHub and make rooms. We should definitely give it a shot to
>> see how it pays off in the long run.
>>
>> The learning curve with IRC does instill a thing of learning or two among
>> all of us. I for one asked my questions on IRC after thoroughly searching
>> the web and all the resources I have. Since I always knew the importance
>> of  "Software is free. Time is not." Things taking time to figure out, is
>> good. But not when its spent on communication mediums by prospective
>> contributors. They just want to start contributing. And fast. I think
>> Gitter can help here.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:48 PM Rahul Bothra  wrote:
>>
>>> I am proposing a change in the communication medium from IRC to Gitter.
>>> I've made a Gitter Community at https://gitter.im/Sugar-Labs, for
>>> people to try it out. In case people don't like the change, we can shut it
>>> down and stick to IRC.
>>>
>>> Following are my reasons for the change;
>>>
>>> New users can't see the past conversations, which is useful at times
>>>
>>> Many active contributors don't run an all time online instance,
>>> and can't read unresolved doubts asked when they were offline
>>>
>>> If a new user doesn't get a response for some time, he tends to
>>> quit IRC (observation) and it's difficult to look him up and resolve
>>> his query. This *might *lead to contributors thinking that the org is i
>>> nactive
>>>
>>> Since we are diverse, we can use different channels for each;
>>> Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, Design, Website.
>>> This will make discussions more organised and easy to look up
>>> Implementing this on IRC could increase problems of inactivity
>>> even more.
>>>
>>> D. Joe gave a reason[1] against the switch that every other chat
>>> systems has their own advantages.
>>> I don't mind using any chat system which can curb these issues.
>>>
>>> I am now comfortable in using IRC because:
>>>  - I *somewhat* understood how it works, but it took time to figure out
>>>  - I now know at what time might a contributor come online,
>>>but it took time to figure out
>>>  - I now know which contributor works on what, so I can ask via mail,
>>>if IRC doesn't help, but it took time to figure out
>>>
>>> There are obvious workarounds for all these, but then it's better if new
>>> contributors devote 'time to figure out' code instead ;-)
>>>
>>> [1]:
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055064.html
>>>
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>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs 2018-2020 Oversight Board Election Results

[Sumit Srivastava]

Since you're using gmail, it went to spam.

It happened to me too.

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, 1:36 am Samson Goddy,  wrote:

> Not sure why I didn't receive Ifeanyi's email but I also agreed with Alex.
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 9:02 PM Alex Perez 
>> Agreed, the voter turnout of just under 26% is highly unfortunate, and I
>> personally think it would be worth sending a questionnaire to the 124
>> members we know did not submit a vote, but were "registered" to do so,
>> asking a question or two about why they chose not to vote. Was it a matter
>> of not knowing about the candidates, or no longer caring about Sugar, etc?
>>
>>
>> Ifeanyi Peter 
>> December 17, 2018 at 5:29 AM
>> Congratulations to the new Oversight Board Members.
>>
>>
>> The ballot is kinda poor, not even up to 50% members voted.
>>
>> Thanks to the electoral committee for an awesome job
>>
>> - Ifeanyi Ekperi
>> Designer, WP Expert
>>
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>> December 15, 2018 at 3:01 AM
>> Hello,
>>
>> 43 out of 167 Sugar Labs member voted during the Sugar Labs 2018-2020
>> Election.
>>
>> Congratulations to the winners who have been selected for the 2018-2020
>> period:
>>
>> 1. *Walter Bender*
>> 2. *James Cameron*
>> 3. *Lionel Laské*
>> *4. Alex Perez *
>> *5. Devin Ulibarri*
>>
>> Results are available at the following URL:
>>
>>
>> https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_7e20f77cd6595bfe=dd2850a107103a39
>>
>> For more information about the Condorcet Internet Voting Service, see
>> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu
>>
>> Many thanks to Ibiam Chihurumnaya, Rahul Bothra, Jaskirat Singh, Anmol
>> Mishra, and Amaan Iqbal for their candidacies submissions and for their
>> interest to be part of the Sugar Labs Oversight Board.
>>
>> Many thanks to everyone in the Membership and Elections Committee, for
>> all their efforts and time dedicated to maintaining the Sugar Labs member's
>> list.
>>
>> Many thanks to the Wiki and Systems teams for their ongoing support.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs 2018-2020 Oversight Board Election Results

[Sumit Srivastava]

Congratulations to the new board!

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, 4:47 pm Amaan Iqbal,  wrote:

> Congratulations to all the deserving SLOBs members.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 4:38 PM Jaskirat Singh 
> wrote:
>
>> Congratulations to new SLOB
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, 4:35 pm Anmol Mishra, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations to new SLOB members.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Dec, 2018, 16:32 Samson Goddy >>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> 43 out of 167 Sugar Labs member voted during the Sugar Labs 2018-2020
>>>> Election.
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations to the winners who have been selected for the 2018-2020
>>>> period:
>>>>
>>>> 1. *Walter Bender*
>>>> 2. *James Cameron*
>>>> 3. *Lionel Laské*
>>>> *4. Alex Perez *
>>>> *5. Devin Ulibarri*
>>>>
>>>> Results are available at the following URL:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_7e20f77cd6595bfe=dd2850a107103a39
>>>>
>>>> For more information about the Condorcet Internet Voting Service, see
>>>> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks to Ibiam Chihurumnaya, Rahul Bothra, Jaskirat Singh, Anmol
>>>> Mishra, and Amaan Iqbal for their candidacies submissions and for
>>>> their interest to be part of the Sugar Labs Oversight Board.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks to everyone in the Membership and Elections Committee, for
>>>> all their efforts and time dedicated to maintaining the Sugar Labs member's
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks to the Wiki and Systems teams for their ongoing support.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Membership and Elections Committee*
>>>> Project Sugar Labs
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help on Music blocks

[Sumit Srivastava]

I guess he wants to get started with MB, perhaps.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, 11:40 pm Walter Bender,  wrote:

> Not sure what you are asking.
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 12:14 PM Joel Arrey 
>> Hello guys any one with an idea on working on music blocks
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Stage II November: Election

[Sumit Srivastava]

To ensure smooth functioning of SLOB, I'd like to contest the elections as
a candidate.

Regards
Sumit Srivastava

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 8:55 pm Samson Goddy,  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Sugar Lab's Elections and Membership Committee announces the upcoming 
> *2018-2020
> Sugar Labs Oversight Board Election
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates>. *
>
> *F**our (4) Oversight Board members shall be elected for the Sugar Labs
> Oversight Board project for the 2018-2020 period.** This is the
> first call for candidates: *
>
> The mission of the oversight board is to ensure that the Sugar Labs
> community has clarity of purpose and the means to collaborate in achieving
> its goals.
>
>
>
> *Members <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members> can run for
> election to the Oversight Board
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board> and vote in the elections
> for the Oversight Board. Once e*lected, board members are expected to
> participate actively on Sugar Labs decision making processes and join
> Sugar-meeting IRC channel for SLOB's monthly meetings.
>
>
> *Stage II November 19, Reminder of the election date and second call for
> candidates. (Today)*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Stage III November 30, Candidates' Wiki submissions
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates#Candidates>
>  deadline. Stage
> IV December 1-15 Election. Membership and Elections Committee*
>
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