Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Street Map
Hi Gary Thank you for the link. I already guessed that it can't be true that such an activity would not exist. My mistake was that I missed to search for the term osm on the Wiki of Sugar. How could I be so blind? I will test it when I toy with SOAS. Christian On 2 Mar 2014, at 18:00, Christian Stroetmannstroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: Aloha Today, I wondered if there is already an activity that is related with the Open Street Map (OSM; [1]). I search the Wiki of Sugar Labs and the Activities, but got no results for the search terms open street, openstreet and osm. Has anybody informations about this? If there is not such an activity I would like to propose such an activity as well, because IMO it is definitely a most have. I even would like to propose it as a feature of Sugar. The Map [1] activity supports OSM data (and others), not sure how stable it is under current Sugar builds as it was worked on some time ago. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Map --Gary Christian Stroetmann ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Street Map
Hi Gonzalo This paragraph is a little off-topic: I do not think so that ideas are overvalued. Quite contrary, ideas are an essential part of arts and economics and hence of culture. Without ideas and their presentations there is no start to discuss and to implement something at all. Seen from this point of view, the general problem is not how to program, but what to program. This paragraph is a little on-topic: Also, the Feature process gives a mandatory protocol, so that in the end an idea can be realized/implemented in an ordered way. Despite our different point of views about the value of ideas, I think this specific protocol is a good way to start things by presenting an idea in the first step. After the community decided that an idea is valuable, we can talk about the requirement specification and later about its implementation. In this respect, I say that ideas talk first, codes talk later. ;) This paragraph is on-topic: Because I already expected that there is an activity that is able to handle OSM data (see also the information given by Gary Martin), I am also thinking about a feature that is basically an extension of the Neighborhood view or even a fifth view called for example (Sugar) Earth, (Sugar) World, (Sugar) Cosmos or (Sugar) Paracosm (see [2]; my favorite in conjunction with (creativity and ideas of) children) on top of the Neighborhood view. This feature has also to be seen in conjunction with the other proposed feature of a ZUI metaphor for Sugar (see the related thread started on the 1st of March 2014). Both the fifth view and the ZUI fit together perfectly, because often digital globes and digital world maps are based on the ZUI metaphor (see [1]). As it can be seen, this is a larger feature that on the one hand has to be discussed by the developers and on the other hand IMO can't be implemented as a simple prototype. Said this, I would like to create a Feature proposal at first that only describes the idea/concept of the fifth view. Christian [1] Wikipedia, ZUI; ZUI projects en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooming_user_interface [2] Wikipedia, Paracosm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracosm Ideas are overvalued :) Until something is implemented can't be i the hands of kids. Gonzalo On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com mailto:stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: I waited for such an anser. But the Feature process clearly says that ideas should even be publicated if somebody does not implement it. Christian We don't use the Feature process for activities. I don't think we have a map activity based on OSM, but we have one using google maps [1] Probably the best is start to work, and show some prototype, just start, code talks ;) Gonzalo [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4211 On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com mailto:stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: Aloha Today, I wondered if there is already an activity that is related with the Open Street Map (OSM; [1]). I search the Wiki of Sugar Labs and the Activities, but got no results for the search terms open street, openstreet and osm. Has anybody informations about this? If there is not such an activity I would like to propose such an activity as well, because IMO it is definitely a most have. I even would like to propose it as a feature of Sugar. Christian Stroetmann ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Open Street Map
Aloha Today, I wondered if there is already an activity that is related with the Open Street Map (OSM; [1]). I search the Wiki of Sugar Labs and the Activities, but got no results for the search terms open street, openstreet and osm. Has anybody informations about this? If there is not such an activity I would like to propose such an activity as well, because IMO it is definitely a most have. I even would like to propose it as a feature of Sugar. Christian Stroetmann ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Street Map
We don't use the Feature process for activities. I don't think we have a map activity based on OSM, but we have one using google maps [1] Probably the best is start to work, and show some prototype, just start, code talks ;) Gonzalo [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4211 On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: Aloha Today, I wondered if there is already an activity that is related with the Open Street Map (OSM; [1]). I search the Wiki of Sugar Labs and the Activities, but got no results for the search terms open street, openstreet and osm. Has anybody informations about this? If there is not such an activity I would like to propose such an activity as well, because IMO it is definitely a most have. I even would like to propose it as a feature of Sugar. Christian Stroetmann ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Street Map
I waited for such an anser. But the Feature process clearly says that ideas should even be publicated if somebody does not implement it. Christian We don't use the Feature process for activities. I don't think we have a map activity based on OSM, but we have one using google maps [1] Probably the best is start to work, and show some prototype, just start, code talks ;) Gonzalo [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4211 On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com mailto:stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: Aloha Today, I wondered if there is already an activity that is related with the Open Street Map (OSM; [1]). I search the Wiki of Sugar Labs and the Activities, but got no results for the search terms open street, openstreet and osm. Has anybody informations about this? If there is not such an activity I would like to propose such an activity as well, because IMO it is definitely a most have. I even would like to propose it as a feature of Sugar. Christian Stroetmann ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Street Map
On 2 Mar 2014, at 18:00, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: Aloha Today, I wondered if there is already an activity that is related with the Open Street Map (OSM; [1]). I search the Wiki of Sugar Labs and the Activities, but got no results for the search terms open street, openstreet and osm. Has anybody informations about this? If there is not such an activity I would like to propose such an activity as well, because IMO it is definitely a most have. I even would like to propose it as a feature of Sugar. The Map [1] activity supports OSM data (and others), not sure how stable it is under current Sugar builds as it was worked on some time ago. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Map --Gary Christian Stroetmann ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Street Map
Ideas are overvalued :) Until something is implemented can't be i the hands of kids. Gonzalo On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: I waited for such an anser. But the Feature process clearly says that ideas should even be publicated if somebody does not implement it. Christian We don't use the Feature process for activities. I don't think we have a map activity based on OSM, but we have one using google maps [1] Probably the best is start to work, and show some prototype, just start, code talks ;) Gonzalo [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4211 On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann stroetm...@ontolab.com wrote: Aloha Today, I wondered if there is already an activity that is related with the Open Street Map (OSM; [1]). I search the Wiki of Sugar Labs and the Activities, but got no results for the search terms open street, openstreet and osm. Has anybody informations about this? If there is not such an activity I would like to propose such an activity as well, because IMO it is definitely a most have. I even would like to propose it as a feature of Sugar. Christian Stroetmann ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing listSugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.orghttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Learning Software for children ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
