[freenet-support] Stale threads
I think I'm seeing the (once before mentioned) problem with threads dying (or at least idling). My node has been running for 20 hours straight now. Requests have dropped from about 10k/hour to 100/hour, connections have dropped from 50-100 active to 3, incoming connections graph looks like an inverse logarithmic graph. My processor is unused (5% load) and there is no network activity worth mentioning. This is what the 'General information' page in fred says: Node Version 0.5 Protocol Version 1.46 Build Number 537 CVS Revision 1.90.2.13 Uptime 19 hours 9 minutes Load Current routingTime 0ms Active pooled jobs 208 (104.0%) [Rejecting incoming connections and requests!] Available threads 34 It's normal for the node to sometimes reject connections or requestsfor a limited period. If you're seeing rejections continuously the node is overloaded or something is wrong (i.e. a bug). Current estimated load 100.0% Note the extreme difference between my machine:s actual load (5%) and freds estimated load (100%) If I look under 'environment': Class Threads used freenet.Message: NodeAnnouncement 1 freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface$ConnectionShell 36 freenet.interfaces.LocalInterface$ConnectionShell 2 freenet.Message: DataRequest 5 freenet.OpenConnectionManager$ConnectionJob 188 freenet.client.InternalClient$ClientMessageVector 1 I think that 188 threads in ConnectionJob and 36 threads in ConnectionShell is quite a bit to high for my puny 3 active connections. Ideas? /N ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
AW: [freenet-support] multiple datastore
i'm sorry, i didn't understand that symlink in space on different partitions. can you explain please ? :) i'm running linux. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Edgar Friendly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. November 2002 22:48 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [freenet-support] multiple datastore Sägesser Lukas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi, is it not possible to have multiple native datastores ? i'd love to donate more diskspace, but its split on several hard disks symlink in space on different partitions. If running windows, re-partition. Thelema -- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raabu and Piisu GPG 1024D/36352AAB fpr:756D F615 B4F3 BFFC 02C7 84B7 D8D7 6ECE 3635 2AAB ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: [freenet-support] Stale threads
Going to be a little rude answering to my own post... Shutting down and restarting the node made it works as supposed again, connections are booming and processor and bandwidth is used again. Can it be so that the load estimation routine is sort of 'leaking' resources. Maybe it was a missguided effort from the overload protection mechanism that made my node unusable? Many of my threads where allocated to 'ConnectionJob', can it be so that the only thing they where doing was rejecting connections (also a kind of ConnectionJob I guess)? /N -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Niklas Bergh Sent: den 25 november 2002 10:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] Stale threads I think I'm seeing the (once before mentioned) problem with threads dying (or at least idling). My node has been running for 20 hours straight now. Requests have dropped from about 10k/hour to 100/hour, connections have dropped from 50-100 active to 3, incoming connections graph looks like an inverse logarithmic graph. My processor is unused (5% load) and there is no network activity worth mentioning. This is what the 'General information' page in fred says: Node Version 0.5 Protocol Version 1.46 Build Number 537 CVS Revision 1.90.2.13 Uptime 19 hours 9 minutes Load Current routingTime 0ms Active pooled jobs 208 (104.0%) [Rejecting incoming connections and requests!] Available threads 34 It's normal for the node to sometimes reject connections or requestsfor a limited period. If you're seeing rejections continuously the node is overloaded or something is wrong (i.e. a bug). Current estimated load 100.0% Note the extreme difference between my machine:s actual load (5%) and freds estimated load (100%) If I look under 'environment': Class Threads used freenet.Message: NodeAnnouncement 1 freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface$ConnectionShell 36 freenet.interfaces.LocalInterface$ConnectionShell 2 freenet.Message: DataRequest 5 freenet.OpenConnectionManager$ConnectionJob 188 freenet.client.InternalClient$ClientMessageVector 1 I think that 188 threads in ConnectionJob and 36 threads in ConnectionShell is quite a bit to high for my puny 3 active connections. Ideas? /N ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
[freenet-support] change of ip ceases traffic
Hello, I've noticed a potential problem (node version 617, sorry didnt want to update, node was running so nicely). Here's the symptom: [normal operation] When I started my node on Monday last week, traffic on my node reached very satisfactory levels after a day or so and stayed there for a whole week. Especially outbound traffic looked nice (and that's a situation that gives me confidence my node is doing it's work and being useful, either passing through data or answering from its own store (10g)). Network load was constantly around 80-100% and inbound search keys have nice peaks, also the peaks of the keys in my store were slowly starting to match the search request keys. [problem occurs on ip change] Then, in the night from Sunday to Monday, my friggin ip changed (I use dyndns, my provider terminates connection about every 3-10 days). This effected that traffic pretty much grinded to a halt and has now stayed there for more than 10 hours. Network load is a meager18-22%. There _are_ incoming connections. The incoming Connection event occurence counter has dropped from around 200-500 per hour to around 20 per hour, though. The cease of traffic coincides pretty accurately with the change of ip (I can tell it's +- 10 minutes). There were 2 ip-changes at 1:56 and 2:32 monday morning. You can check my traffic stats, if you don't believe my words: http://nf.dyndns.org/mrtg/null.void_ppp0.html [blah] now, it seems pretty clear (in my naive mind), what's happening here: Probably my fellow nodes don't relookup my dyndns name, therefore trying to connect to my old ip (which fails). How often is the ip of a node verified through dns, if at all? Does this only occur on first connection attempt? If this problem actually exists as I described and the reasons are as I assume, then it would probably help the network a lot if nodes would, when building a connection and seeing it fails, force a relookup of the name? cheers, nick ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
RE: [freenet-support] multiple datastore
I guess he means that if you have a look in your datastore directory you will notice multiple directories 0,1,1a and so on. You can symlink these to a folder on another of your drives/partitions (and the files will be stored there instead). An alternative can be to mount your disks/partitions directly under one or more of the directories in the datastore folder (but I'm not sure I would recommend that, to unflexible). /N -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sägesser Lukas Sent: den 25 november 2002 10:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: [freenet-support] multiple datastore i'm sorry, i didn't understand that symlink in space on different partitions. can you explain please ? :) i'm running linux. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Edgar Friendly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. November 2002 22:48 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [freenet-support] multiple datastore Sägesser Lukas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi, is it not possible to have multiple native datastores ? i'd love to donate more diskspace, but its split on several hard disks symlink in space on different partitions. If running windows, re-partition. Thelema -- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raabu and Piisu GPG 1024D/36352AAB fpr:756D F615 B4F3 BFFC 02C7 84B7 D8D7 6ECE 3635 2AAB ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
[freenet-support] Re: Last point of failure
Signatures require a) somebody checks THE WHOLE SOURCE for trojans. This will take weeks and therefore will never happen. b) that we can keep the private key secure. This is unlikely. Have you participated (without identifying yourself) in any large projects that currently GPG-sign their sources / binaries? All you have to do is sign them when you package them. What people want from the signature is the knowledge that the package is as the author created it and not repackaged by a third party. As for source errors or hidden trojans, that can always happen, but a signed release lets you announce a patch release, admitting the trojanning and users know that the new release is also from the usual packaging author. Keeping a private key secure is really easy in this context (use a CD/floppy). More importantly you can always create private keys with 3 or 6 month expiries so that you have to create new keys before then and sign them with the old keys so that anyone who actually compromises the key doesn't gain much. Being able to revoke GPG/PGP keys makes this almost unnecessary as well (are you actually familiar with the technology involved in how GPG/PGP work? Go read the fine manual ... www.gnupg.org). with IE or Mozilla for that matter. Please do some research ... Signed JAR files go through verisign. That is not good. Signed JAR files don't go through verisign; that's one company that offers such signatures. You don't actually need to use their signatures; see www.openssl.org or www.openca.org for something more complex. There are open and free ways to create and manage signing authorities for JARs as well (again, I happen to do this stuff for a living). -- Michael T. Babcock CTO, FibreSpeed Ltd. (Hosting, Security, Consultation, Database, etc) This advice brought to you by a lot of cash I didn't charge for the advice ... http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/ ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Last point of failure
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 09:34:40AM -0500, Michael T. Babcock wrote: Signatures require a) somebody checks THE WHOLE SOURCE for trojans. This will take weeks and therefore will never happen. b) that we can keep the private key secure. This is unlikely. Have you participated (without identifying yourself) in any large projects that currently GPG-sign their sources / binaries? All you have to do is sign them when you package them. What people want from the signature is the knowledge that the package is as the author created it and not repackaged by a third party. We have been over this... As for source errors or hidden trojans, that can always happen, but a signed release lets you announce a patch release, admitting the trojanning and users know that the new release is also from the usual packaging author. Sure, if the trojaned release didn't compromize the announcement mechanism. The whole point here is not to rely on the website, so we have to be able to get revocation certificates etc from freenet. Keeping a private key secure is really easy in this context (use a CD/floppy). More importantly you can always create private keys with 3 or 6 month expiries so that you have to create new keys before then and sign them with the old keys so that anyone who actually compromises the key doesn't gain much. Being able to revoke GPG/PGP keys makes this almost unnecessary as well (are you actually familiar with the technology involved in how GPG/PGP work? Go read the fine manual ... www.gnupg.org). Um, if I am patronized on public key cryptography by another luser, I will scream. Seriously, keeping a private key secure is nigh on impossible even with hardware tokens against any moderately funded opponent. Hence the need for revocation of the insertion key by developers. with IE or Mozilla for that matter. Please do some research ... Signed JAR files go through verisign. That is not good. Signed JAR files don't go through verisign; that's one company that offers such signatures. You don't actually need to use their signatures; see www.openssl.org or www.openca.org for something more complex. There are open and free ways to create and manage signing authorities for JARs as well (again, I happen t`o do this stuff for a living). openca.org looks unfinished. Does it actually have something working? And is it known by Internet Explorer, or at least Mozilla? Web of trust only works when you know somebody else on the web (which is in practice impossibly rare), and a hierarchical system like verisign only works if you trust the corporation, which means a) you have to trust the corporation - a lot of people would be skeptical about this point w.r.t. many of them, and b) you pay a usually significant amount of money to the CA, and c) the CA is a legal body which can be attacked. -- Michael T. Babcock CTO, FibreSpeed Ltd. (Hosting, Security, Consultation, Database, etc) This advice brought to you by a lot of cash I didn't charge for the advice ... http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/ -- Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet/Coldstore open source hacker. Employed full time by Freenet Project Inc. from 11/9/02 to 11/1/03 http://freenetproject.org/ msg02253/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[freenet-support] No frequest.exe or finsert.exe
Hi, i have a bit problem using the current freenet release for windows. I installed freenet and wanted to use frost, so i downloaded the latest frost release 010714. But on every start frost is complaining about a missing frequest.exe and finsert.exe. I searched my whole HD with F3, but Windows couldn't find any frequest or finsert :-( What did I made wrong? I just installed freenet. Can somebody help me? Mfg: Frank -- +[++-].++[++-]. Codito Ergo Sum. PGP Key fingerprint: 550E 59F3 4897 733F 9CD7 CC38 7487 E3E9 9DD0 9581 ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [freenet-support] No frequest.exe or finsert.exe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 22:20 25.11.2002 +, you wrote: file://c:\programme\eudora\attach\Re [freenet-support] No freque.ems 0880.0002c8c16e.jpgfile://c:\programme\eudora\attach\Re [freenet-support] No freque.ems 0880.0002 Re [freenet-support] No freque.ems They no longer exist. Frost is broken. Use FMB instead. First: thanks for your answer... but... I don't know what you mean with Use FMB instead. Is this a Program? I searched freshmeat, but I only got one result: ScoFMB KDE Projects Homepage. Do you mean Frost is discontinued and replaced by FMB (can you post a download link?...) Greets: Frank - -- +[++-].++[++-]. Codito Ergo Sum. PGP Key fingerprint: 550E 59F3 4897 733F 9CD7 CC38 7487 E3E9 9DD0 9581 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBPeKpF3SH4+md0JWBEQJvJACg5/+HqDX3opYLwP22JN/O66eXiZsAnj3u ckAe2/ZibX5yAA7cLB9UBheH =Sj4J -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
[freenet-support] Carrying Over The Datastore
I've just fresh installed the latest build. Is there a way to take the datastore from my old node, and give it to my new node? I tried copying over store_X, but that didn't seem to work. Edition based sites that I could always access before are now DNF. I know they're in the old datastore. Any ideas? Thank you. -Todd ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [freenet-support] No frequest.exe or finsert.exe
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:50:00PM +0100, Frank Stoeckl wrote: At 22:20 25.11.2002 +, you wrote: file://c:\programme\eudora\attach\Re [freenet-support] No freque.ems 0880.0002c8c16e.jpgfile://c:\programme\eudora\attach\Re [freenet-support] No freque.ems 0880.0002 Re [freenet-support] No freque.ems They no longer exist. Frost is broken. Use FMB instead. First: thanks for your answer... but... I don't know what you mean with Use FMB instead. Is this a Program? I searched freshmeat, but I only got one result: ScoFMB KDE Projects Homepage. It's on freenet. Linked from TFE. Do you mean Frost is discontinued and replaced by FMB (can you post a download link?...) No, I mean frost has a bad reputation, and I'm not surprised at its apparently depending on programs that haven't been part of freenet for over 18 months. Greets: Frank -- +[++-].++[++-]. Codito Ergo Sum. PGP Key fingerprint: 550E 59F3 4897 733F 9CD7 CC38 7487 E3E9 9DD0 9581 ___ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support -- Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet/Coldstore open source hacker. Employed full time by Freenet Project Inc. from 11/9/02 to 11/1/03 http://freenetproject.org/ msg02259/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [freenet-support] Carrying Over The Datastore
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 03:23:30PM -0800, Todd Walton wrote: I've just fresh installed the latest build. Is there a way to take the datastore from my old node, and give it to my new node? I tried copying over store_X, but that didn't seem to work. Edition based sites that I could always access before are now DNF. I know they're in the old datastore. Any ideas? Wierd. What did you upgrade from? Oh, fresh installed? You should be able to copy the old datastore directory to the new datastore directory. Thank you. -Todd -- Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet/Coldstore open source hacker. Employed full time by Freenet Project Inc. from 11/9/02 to 11/1/03 http://freenetproject.org/ msg02260/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [freenet-support] No frequest.exe or finsert.exe
Frank Stoeckl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I installed freenet and wanted to use frost, so i downloaded the latest frost release 010714. Where did you get it? Matthew Toseland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: No, I mean frost has a bad reputation, and I'm not surprised at its apparently depending on programs that haven't been part of freenet for over 18 months. I'm not entirely convinced that he actually got the latest version. Assuming that 010714 isn't a typo, that's July 14, 2001. -- Greg Wooledge | Truth belongs to everybody. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- The Red Hot Chili Peppers http://wooledge.org/~greg/ | msg02261/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[freenet-support] Proposal
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