RE: [freenet-support] A few basic questions

2003-10-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 b/w 

As a photographer that means black and white

On the Internet it often means by the way

What does it mean here?

some use b/w for bandwidth...


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RE: [freenet-support] Rantsies

2003-10-29 Thread Niklas Bergh

  Good to hear. Wonder if it is because of working NGR or 
 simply because 
  the unstable network is smaller.. I believe that this isn't 
 known yet.
 Don't things work better when it's bigger? :-)

It should do.. If routing was working well and able to cope with the
growth and load balancing.

  Hmm.. Well.. Actually they both speak exactly the same 
 language.. The
 Then, no reason why 'stable' couldn't actually talk well with 
 other stable 
 nodes and ngr ones?  And just keep the unstable only dealing 
 with ngr for 
 testing?

As of yesterday there where three types of nodes..
Stable, all non-NGR
Unstable, anti-NGR (build 6281)
Unstable, NGR (build 6281+)
The previous two types could talk to each other.. The last type could
only talk to its siblings

  Hmmm.. Not play really.. The intention is to make it work...
 Perception skewers reality.  I don't know WHY unstable works, 
 but I see that 
 it does.  I tested again yesterday with stable (getting new 
 seednodes) and I 
 still couldn't *do* anything. Ie, couldn't retrieve any 
 'known' keys.  So, 
 either all the linked content just isn't there any more on 
 'stable', or 
 something is still broke.  Whether by luck or talent, it 
 seems that they have gotten unstable 'working'.  

Possibly anti-NGR...

  Probabilistic caching.
  Prevent nodes from caching data whose source they aren't 
 routing-wise 
  close to.
 Why? I don't understand this... ideally, shouldn't a node 
 cache *everything* 
 that runs through it, given enough space? 

It does, until the DS is 90% full.. After that it tries to enhance
specialization by selectively accept stuff into its store..
 
  NGR
  Keep track of not only which nodes have what data.. Also 
 keep track of 
  how fast they can supply it.
 Err, um... keep track of what nodes have what data? That 
 doesn't sound like a 
 good idea at all.  Hopefully, you mean, keep track of what 
 nodes can GET 
 what data. I hope, at least, that would be the way it works. 
 No, I don't 
 have the GPL, but I know someone who can get it for ya... I'm 
 just passing 
 your request on...

Right, my mistake..

  Problem #8:
  OCO.
  Massive amounts of CPU is used for connection negotiations due to 
  heavy encryption stuff used in there. OCO amplified this 
 latent issue.
 I read Toad's roadmap, and it seems that at least udp is 
 being considered. 
 Great. This is how it SHOULD be done:  Or, at least, an 
 option.  If you're on 
 lower bandwidth, udp should be fine, no?  And solves having a ton of 
 connections always open.  It'd put more load on the machine, 
 but, probably 
 still acceptable.  

The problem is not the TCP connections.. It is all about FNP connections
(currently over TCP but they would have the same problem even over UDP).
The problem is that two nodes has to autheticate with each other to
verify that the Peer is who he says he is.. This is true no matter if
the underlying transport would be TCP or UDP.

  1. Multiplexing, would allow a single connections to send multiple 
  messages simultaneously thereby enabling us to keep only one single 
  connection open to each node, compared to keeping one free 
 connection 
  the each node.
 Ah, so THAT is why I see so multiple instances of a node in 
 the OC window? 
 Because this is yet to be done? 

Yep.

  If someone wants to add missing things to the list then 
 feel free to 
  do so.
 That's a pretty nice list, and certainly gives me a new perspective. 

Good, that was the intention :)
There is no play involved.. Most everything is done for a quite good
reason :)

  Nahh.. They don't really dismiss it.. They just want things 
 to start 
  working at all first :) Any help would be very appreciated.
 I think they're doing a good job with unstable.  It just is 
 non-intuitive 
 that your best hope is NOT to get the stable release: I think 
 it'd be helpful 
 for the main page to reflect that unstable isn't really so 
 much 'broken' as 'in need of constant update'.  Meaning, if 
 you are downloading the latest build each day, chances are 
 you're probably be better off than downloading the stable at 
 all.  But, that's just my experience so far.

Usually stable is the best hope.. It is just that here has been a rough
couple of months lately..

/N

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RE: [freenet-support] Help Respond Soon

2003-10-29 Thread Niklas Bergh
What kind of error messages do you see?

And also are you using some kind of broadband router/software firewall

/N

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 I've been trying to get this Freenet to load the websites but 
 its not doing it at all. I have been leaving it on for a long 
 time now.
 
 Right now I have 2.40ghz, 768DDRRAM, and cable modem.
 
 I would like to know what I should set my settings to so I 
 can get the best results possible and make the pages load 
 more faster, because I havent been able to get any to load 
 except the main page which takes forever to load the little images.
 
 
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[freenet-support] browser

2003-10-29 Thread Robert Greenage



freenet has co opted my browser. when i log on to the net my browser would default to my ISP(earthlink) homepage.now it defaults to 127.0.0.1:. i cannot get it to go to any other website. even by using favorites or history. the default browser for earthlink is IE 6.0. this also happens to be how i access my mail. any ideas?


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RE: [freenet-support] browser

2003-10-29 Thread Niklas Bergh
Title: Message



How about 
using the 'Address' field then? I allows you to navigate to ANY web page in the 
whole wide world.

Also, you can 
type in any start page you want in 'Tools\Internet Options\Home page'. If that 
doesn't work then I would suggest that you have a talk with Microsoft. And if 
you cannot remember the address of your previous 'Earthlink' start page then I 
suggest you have a talk with Earthlink.

/N

  
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  On Behalf Of Robert GreenageSent: den 29 oktober 2003 
  15:08To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [freenet-support] browser
  
  freenet has co opted my browser. when i log on to the net my browser 
  would default to my ISP(earthlink) homepage.now it defaults to 127.0.0.1:. 
  i cannot get it to go to any other website. even by using favorites or 
  history. the default browser for earthlink is IE 6.0. this also happens to be 
  how i access my mail. any ideas?
  
  
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Re: [freenet-support] browser

2003-10-29 Thread dave
This is nothing to do with Freenet.  It sounds like you've accidentally
set 127.0.0.1: as your homepage.  Did you know that if you
accidentally press CTRL+D while using IE 6.0 it will set the current page
to be your homepage?  It sounds as if this is what you have done.  If
you're using IE 6.0  you can set your homepage by clicking on Tools,
Internet Options, and typing a new address where it says Address:

If you want to set it back to Earthlink's homepage, the address you should
enter is probably http://start.earthlink.net/

Favourites and History have nothing to do with your homepage.  Favourites
and History manage your favourites (on the Favourites menu and the Links
toolbar) and your history (shows you which pages you've visited recently)
respectively.

Freenet does *not* change a browser's homepage setting.  Only the user can
do this themselves.

hope this helps,

d

 freenet has co opted my browser. when i log on to the net my browser would
 default to my ISP(earthlink) homepage.now it defaults to 127.0.0.1:. i
 cannot get it to go to any other website. even by using favorites or
 history. the default browser for earthlink is IE 6.0. this also happens to
 be how i access my mail. any ideas?


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RE: [freenet-support] browser

2003-10-29 Thread timmah



tools - options 
- connections - lan settings. 
Fill in the correct 
proxy information, or no proxy information, as required by earthlink. 




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  browser
  
  freenet has co opted my browser. when i log on to the net my browser 
  would default to my ISP(earthlink) homepage.now it defaults to 127.0.0.1:. 
  i cannot get it to go to any other website. even by using favorites or 
  history. the default browser for earthlink is IE 6.0. this also happens to be 
  how i access my mail. any ideas?
  
  
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[freenet-support] Re: Support Digest, Vol 3, Issue 38

2003-10-29 Thread Red Dem0n
I don't see any error messages at all, I figured maybe it was something
due to the uptime of the program so i kept it on about 10-12 hours, and
the only difference I saw was that when I started Freenet it was at a load
of 100%, after the 10-12 hours it was at a load of 0%.  So I'm guessing
there might be something wrong with the settings, although it is under the
default settings at the moment.  There's no router/software firewall I
have right now so that couldnt be the issue.



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 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:54:30 +0100
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 What kind of error messages do you see?

 And also are you using some kind of broadband router/software firewall

 /N

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 Subject: [freenet-support] Help Respond Soon


 I've been trying to get this Freenet to load the websites but
 its not doing it at all. I have been leaving it on for a long
 time now.

 Right now I have 2.40ghz, 768DDRRAM, and cable modem.

 I would like to know what I should set my settings to so I
 can get the best results possible and make the pages load
 more faster, because I havent been able to get any to load
 except the main page which takes forever to load the little images.


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RE: [freenet-support] Re: Support Digest, Vol 3, Issue 38

2003-10-29 Thread Niklas Bergh
Hmm.. Ok, so what exacltly is it that doesn't work for you? Is it
getting the ActiveLinks in the web interface? Is it navigating to a
freesite? If it is the second then you should get a message saying
something like 'Route not found' or possibly 'Data not found' or
something.. What does the page you get say?

/N

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 Subject: [freenet-support] Re: Support Digest, Vol 3, Issue 38
 
 
 I don't see any error messages at all, I figured maybe it was 
 something due to the uptime of the program so i kept it on 
 about 10-12 hours, and the only difference I saw was that 
 when I started Freenet it was at a load of 100%, after the 
 10-12 hours it was at a load of 0%.  So I'm guessing there 
 might be something wrong with the settings, although it is 
 under the default settings at the moment.  There's no 
 router/software firewall I have right now so that couldnt be 
 the issue.
 
 
 
  Message: 5
  Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:54:30 +0100
  From: Niklas Bergh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [freenet-support] Help Respond Soon
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
 
  What kind of error messages do you see?
 
  And also are you using some kind of broadband 
 router/software firewall
 
  /N
 
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  Subject: [freenet-support] Help Respond Soon
 
 
  I've been trying to get this Freenet to load the websites 
 but its not 
  doing it at all. I have been leaving it on for a long time now.
 
  Right now I have 2.40ghz, 768DDRRAM, and cable modem.
 
  I would like to know what I should set my settings to so I can get 
  the best results possible and make the pages load more faster, 
  because I havent been able to get any to load except the main page 
  which takes forever to load the little images.
 
 
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[freenet-support] Re: A few basic questions

2003-10-29 Thread Michael Schierl
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:34:21 -0500, Nicholas Sturm wrote:


 b/w 
 
 As a photographer that means black and white
 
 On the Internet it often means by the way
 
 What does it mean here?

bandwidth?

mihi

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[freenet-support] Waited more than 200ms to dequeue

2003-10-29 Thread Søren Caspersen
Waited more than 200ms to dequeue, 36 in queue,1498 millis since enqueued last item, 288503 maximum waits so far - could indicate serious JVM bug. Please report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] along with JVM and OS/kernel.
Build: 6286
java version "1.4.2_01"Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition(build 1.4.2_01-b06)Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_01-b06, mixedmode)
Debian stable2.4.18-bf2.4
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Re: [freenet-support] browser

2003-10-29 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Some are just a little short on being helpful.  Tell the poor guy how to
get his mail.  You are not helping him by telling him to use one of his
other browsers without advise on at least how to get his mail.

I have a machine set up with Linux; unfortunately it DOES NOT RUN the
majority of third party software.  Most of us really don't want to be
limited to  just three main packages.  And do recall that most of the user
aids are about as useful on Linux as the instructions on Microsoft's own
operating system.  Third party software in the MS world does have pretty
good user instructions and even some of the help systems are pretty good
(wish I could say the same for the Gate's Help Files or even most Linux
instructions that forgot the dictionary of jargon -- like most of the
instructions on FreeNet).

I'm not a particular lover of MS ware.  I have one machine with an MS
operating system on it that absolutely refuses to access the Internet, but
short of a reformat of the primary disk, I can well
appreciate it never will.  The MS system is pure crap when it messes up
itself.

 [Original Message]
 From: David McNab [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 10/30/2003 8:32:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] browser

 On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:26, Robert Greenage wrote:
  I have received many answers to my problem. However, none have
worked.When
  I log on to my ISP IE6.0 loads and automatically goes to
127.0.0.1.:.
  then I get the error message
  res://C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SHDOCLC.DLL/dnserror.dns. In properties the
correct
  earthlink address is the default start page. And the address is
correct.I
  can start other browsers opera and Mozilla. I can also access the
earthlink
  start page with those browsers. The problem of email is the major
issue. I
  even reinstalled IE 6.0 without any success. Please help.

 You answered your own question, Robert - choose another browser.
 Opera and Mozilla are both excellent. My choice would be Mozilla because
 of its superior standards compliance.

 Your loyalty to Microsoft is horrifically misplaced. M$ internet apps
 are the single biggest risk to your online security. Give them up. Use
 some *real* softare.

 (I won't admonish you here to use a *real* operating system like Linux,
 BSD or OSX, because *that* could be seen as trolling.)

 Cheers
 David




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   [Original Message]
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 10/29/03 8:14:46 AM
   Subject: Re: [freenet-support] browser
  
   This is nothing to do with Freenet.  It sounds like you've
accidentally
   set 127.0.0.1: as your homepage.  Did you know that if you
   accidentally press CTRL+D while using IE 6.0 it will set the current
page
   to be your homepage?  It sounds as if this is what you have done.  If
   you're using IE 6.0  you can set your homepage by clicking on Tools,
   Internet Options, and typing a new address where it says Address:
  
   If you want to set it back to Earthlink's homepage, the address you
should
   enter is probably http://start.earthlink.net/
  
   Favourites and History have nothing to do with your homepage. 
Favourites
   and History manage your favourites (on the Favourites menu and the
Links
   toolbar) and your history (shows you which pages you've visited
recently)
   respectively.
  
   Freenet does *not* change a browser's homepage setting.  Only the
user can
   do this themselves.
  
   hope this helps,
  
   d
  
freenet has co opted my browser. when i log on to the net my browser
  would
default to my ISP(earthlink) homepage.now it defaults to
  127.0.0.1:. i
cannot get it to go to any other website. even by using favorites or
history. the default browser for earthlink is IE 6.0. this also
happens
  to
be how i access my mail. any ideas?
   
   
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[freenet-support] Transient node detected

2003-10-29 Thread Phil . Deck

when Launching Frost I get this.
( Transient node detected
You are running a TRANSIENT node. Better run a
PERMANENT freenet node. )

How do I run a PERMANENT freenet node?

I currently have a DSL and Cable internet connection
and can leave my comp's on all the time.

I am also willing to donate my space and bandwith - and
computer skills to help freenet. 

Thanks
Phil Deck
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Re: [freenet-support] 5029 overloads

2003-10-29 Thread Brandon Low
What is your thread limit?  From the looks of that it is incredibly
low... Also, are you using YThreads or QThreads... what you might want
to do is increase your thread limit to something closer to 200 or 300
and change to YThreads.

--B

On Wed, 10/29/03 at 22:06:53 -0800, Martin Stone Davis wrote:
 I've been running 5029 for over a day.  I noticed recently that outgoing 
 bandwidth decreased significantly.  Is this problem already known about?
 
 From General Information:
   
 Current routingTime   207ms
 Curent messageSendTimeRequest 496ms
 Pooled threads running jobs   47 (117.5%)
 Pooled threads which are idle 45
 Current upstream bandwidth usage  2962 bytes/second (24.1%)
 Reason for refusing connections:  activeThreads(47) = maximumThreads 
 (40)
 Reason for QueryRejecting requests:   Estimated load (100%)  overloadLow 
 (85%)
   It's normal for the node to sometimes reject connections or requests 
 for a limited period. If you're seeing rejections continuously the node 
 is overloaded or something is wrong (i.e. a bug).
 Current estimated load100% [Rejecting incoming connections and requests!]
 Reason for load:  Load due to thread limit = 117.5%
 Load due to routingTime = 73.1% = 85% + 15% * (207.953 - 1000.000) / 
 1000.000 = overloadLow (85%)
 Load due to messageSendTimeRequest = 82.5% = 85% + 15% * (496.871 - 
 1000.000) / 3000.000 = overloadLow (85%)
 Load due to output bandwidth limiting = 0% because outputBytes(177714) 
 = limit (589824.009 ) = outLimitCutoff (0.8) * outputBandwidthLimit 
 (12288) * 60
 
 From Environment:
 
 Thread Pool   
   
 Total pooled threads  75
 Available pooled threads  34
 Pooled threads in use 41
   
 Pooled Thread Consumers   
   
 Class Threads used
 Checkpoint: Connection opener 1
 freenet.Message: Accepted 1
 freenet.Message: DataNotFound 1
 freenet.Message: DataReply1
 freenet.Message: DataRequest  1
 freenet.Message: QueryRejected2
 freenet.Message: QueryRestarted   1
 freenet.interfaces.LocalNIOInterface$ConnectionShell  12
 freenet.node.states.data.DataStateInitiator   14
 freenet.node.states.data.TrailerWriteCallbackMessage:true:true5
 freenet.node.states.request.RequestInitiator  2
 
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