Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Ian Clarke
Troed SĂ„ngberg wrote:
You asked what is needed for general acceptance of Freenet, I replied.
And I disagreed.

I've advocated Freenet for a long time along my peers (I'm a 
professional Software Engineer, specialising in crypto/security issues) 
- and trying to get people to visit links to http://localhost: isn't 
working.
Just how are you trying to get people to visit such links?  Verbally? 
If so, I suspect that it might not be the http://localhost:/; part 
of the URL that puts them off, but rather the 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],UUleYfXnBfLThNmkB8dACg part might 
be the bit with which they are having trouble.  freenet:xxx URLs won't 
change that, but they will introduce a world of pain.

Freenet URLs are much more likely to be given to people in hyperlink 
form, in which case the actual form of the URL isn't particularly 
relevant.  The whole freenet:xxx thing is purely cosmetic.

Ian.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:03:33 +, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just how are you trying to get people to visit such links?  Verbally? If
Thanks for calling Freenet advocates idiots - but the reaction is more 
pity from my side than anything else. http://localhost:; is what 
people find weird. They're used to http://; ftp://; etc and for them 
Freenet isn't serious until treated likewise.

I'll look into what needs to be done, and simply do it. It doesn't matter 
if you think it's purely cosmetic or not :)

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Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Vitenka
[EMAIL PROTECTED],UUleYfXnBfLThNmkB8dACg part might 
be the bit with which they are having trouble.  freenet:xxx URLs won't 
change that, but they will introduce a world of pain.
Freenet URLs are much more likely to be given to people in hyperlink 
form, in which case the actual form of the URL isn't particularly 
relevant.  The whole freenet:xxx thing is purely cosmetic.
Except that you also have to mandate that everyone uses localhost: 
and not everyone can.  Some people will want to use proxies, others will 
want to use a different port.

Standardising on a freenet: hyperlink is just an obvious thing to do. 
It would also make freesite pages saved to disk work more reliably if 
passed around.

I say go for it, but the way to do it is for the plugins to be done as 
separate projects and their releases included as a part of a freenet 
distribution if a stable one ever happens.

Does anyone have any decent docs on netscape plugin architecture?

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