SeaMonkey v2.0.2's crashreporter segfault in my Debian/Linux box.

2010-01-19 Thread Ant

Hello.

My SM crashed and then I filled out a crash report. I sent(?) it and 
told it to quit. Then, I noticed this in my dmesg:


[88803.638461] crashreporter[17975]: segfault at b6fc6ad0 ip b6fc6ad0 sp 
bf88e46c error 4 in libnss_files-2.10.2.so[b700d000+a000]


I have no idea if my report went through or not. :)

FYI:
$ locate libnss_files-2.10.2.so
/lib/libnss_files-2.10.2.so
$ ls -all /lib/libnss_files-2.10.2.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42572 2009-11-24 02:49 /lib/libnss_files-2.10.2.so

Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: How to start SM Browser with a spécific p age/file

2010-01-19 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/2010 3:26 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

I have a link on my desktop to Start SM Browser.
Using it bring me SM Browser with his Home page.
Is it possible to modify a copy of this link in such a way that the
browser start and display a spécific page like:
   file:///C:/Program Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html
?
(in case SM is not the default browser)


On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit  Preferences].  On the left
side of the Preferences window, under Category, select Browser.  (This
seems to be the default selection.)  In the middle of the right side of
the Browser pane, in the Home Page section, select the Choose File
button.  Navigate to the file you want, and select the Open button.


That's modifying my home page ... :-(
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Re: How to start SM Browser with a spécific p age/file

2010-01-19 Thread Ray_Net

Ralph wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have a link on my desktop to Start SM Browser.
Using it bring me SM Browser with his Home page.
Is it possible to modify a copy of this link in such a way that the
browser start and display a spécific page like:
file:///C:/Program Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html
?
(in case SM is not the default browser)

If you want your browser to open to a specific page from a shortcut on
your desktop. Go to your page however you normally do then grab the
favicon to the left of the URL (your mouse pointer will become a
hand)and drag it (right mouse hold) to your desk top.

But you may then have the issue I am grappling with.. an error message
from Windows about not being able to find the file.. The page will in
fact open.. and you will have to close the error message before the
desktop becomes accessible to you. This seems to be a bit of a bug.


That's creating a Web document link - it will open with the default 
browser - not always SM.

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Re: How to start SM Browser with a spécific p age/file

2010-01-19 Thread Ray_Net

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Ray_Net:


I have a link on my desktop to Start SM Browser.
Using it bring me SM Browser with his Home page.
Is it possible to modify a copy of this link in such a way that the
browser start and display a spécific page like:
  file:///C:/Program Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html


Should be possible. In fact it reminds me on some modifications for the
config file of my mc. Let's see. Yes. And test with 'affe -browser
file:///usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/index.html'. Works. :)

Eh, you have to replace the 'affe' with the command you use to invoke SM
on your machine. Probably something likepath-to-SM\seamonkey.exe.

Hartmut


Tested 
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe - browser file:///C:/Program 
Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html

just opened the browser with his habitual home page.

However  héhé ... this ...
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe file:///C:/Program 
Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html

is working perfectly.

Thanks !
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Re: How to start SM Browser with a spécific p age/file

2010-01-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Ray_Net:

 'affe -browser file:///usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/index.html'.

Tested 
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe - browser file:///C:/Program 
 ^
There is a space which shouldn't be there. ;)

Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html
just opened the browser with his habitual home page.

However  héhé ... this ...
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe file:///C:/Program 
Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html
is working perfectly.

Fine. :)

Hartmut
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.0.2's crashreporter segfault in my Debian/Linux box.

2010-01-19 Thread Neil

Ant wrote:


I have no idea if my report went through or not. :)


What does about:crashes say?

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 19 janvier 2010, Philip Chee a écrit :


You really should point to the en-US version at:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4775


Yep, sorry for the inconvenience. I'm automatically redirected to the fr/ 
page when I go to addons.mozilla.org. Users who prefer en/ should be 
automatically pointed there to. A glitch in the website or in SM?



To Philip Jones, I repeat:


On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about installing
[Autofill Forms], a Firefox add-on that does the trick.


The trick being to... autofill forms (all fields at once)!

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Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

2010-01-19 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 18 janvier 2010, MikeyG a écrit :


On 1/18/2010 9:39 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, MikeyG a écrit :


Trying to fill the void left by the removal of the Form Manager in SM
1.x.x, I have found ''AutoFill Forms'' and ''InFormEnter'' to be
sufficient ... Jus', in case there is anyone out there looking for an
opinion of what 'Form Filler Add-On' others are using. - MikeyG


Thanks! Are both needed or just one? Then could you post a short
comparison?


Both appear to be for FireFox only.


Oh, poop! I'm sorry, I guess I shouldn't of put this post here in Seamonkey; 
I posted it in FF, and then, not thinking, posted it here, too.


Oh, no, I think your post is OK here. Or how could we know about useful 
add-ons that would need to be ported to SM (which often is a piece of 
cake for authors and only takes one to write to them)?


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Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

2010-01-19 Thread MikeyG

On 1/19/2010 4:27 AM, Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, MikeyG a écrit :


On 1/18/2010 9:39 AM, Phillip Jones wrote:

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 18 janvier 2010, MikeyG a écrit :


Trying to fill the void left by the removal of the Form Manager in SM
1.x.x, I have found ''AutoFill Forms'' and ''InFormEnter'' to be
sufficient ... Jus', in case there is anyone out there looking for an
opinion of what 'Form Filler Add-On' others are using. - MikeyG


Thanks! Are both needed or just one? Then could you post a short
comparison?


Both appear to be for FireFox only.


Oh, poop! I'm sorry, I guess I shouldn't of put this post here in
Seamonkey; I posted it in FF, and then, not thinking, posted it here,
too.


Oh, no, I think your post is OK here. Or how could we know about useful
add-ons that would need to be ported to SM (which often is a piece of
cake for authors and only takes one to write to them)?

Having left Seamonkey for Firefox, when SM2 came out and poop canned 
it's Form Manager, I was wondering if 'porting' some, of these Add-Ons 
I'm using in Firefox only, need the install script adjusted to allow 
them to install into Seamonkey, but I dunno.

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Re: Outgoing server

2010-01-19 Thread Bernard Mercier
Mr. Cheese a formulé la demande :
 Mr. Cheese wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 Mr. Cheese wrote:
 I spend the winter at another location. In the past I merely had to
 change my outgoing server name to my new location ISP in order to send
 mail.
 I now get the following messsge:

 An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded:
 Authentication Failed, must login. Please check the message recipient
 email ID and try again.

 Note: the mail ID is whatever recipient to whom I am sending.
 Retrieving mail is not a problem

 This has worked in previous years. Any help would be appreciated

 There is a a new setting in SM 2 that should be off by default but is
 turned on.
 EDIT menu  Mail  Newsgroup settings  SMTP choose edit  uncheck use
 secure authentication.

 This wasn't in SM1.1.8 and lower.

 It's already unchecked. Any other ideas?
 I've uninstalled  and reinstalled sm 2.0.1, Still no luck.
 Local ISP has reviewed my settings a says they're correct.
 ANy other ideas?
When I am not at home, I use the smtp server of my gmail account.
Works every time anywhere.

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Re: Can't enter this site w/SM 2.0.2

2010-01-19 Thread Daniel

Rufus wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Rufus wrote:


http://www.spruebrothers.com/

Can load the site, but clicking the enter store gets me a parsing
error. I can get in with Safari and/or Opera.

I assume it's an issue with the site, as I can no longer get into it
with SM 1.1.18 either...


Works for Me SM 2.0.2 Mac OSX.4.11



Still no joy here...I had to resort to Safari to place an order.



Clicking the link above took me to the site, but then clicking on the 
Click here to enter the store link brought up an error message:-


XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://store.spruebrothers.com/recent-arrivals-c373.aspx
Line Number 296, Column 230:	a 
id=ctl00_ctl00_ctl00_cphMain_cphMain_ctl00_hlCategory18 title=1/32 or 
Larger - Jets - US Navy amp; Marines class=nextCatName 
href=132-or-larger---jets---us-navy--marines-c49.aspx1/32 or Larger - 
Jets - US Navy  Marines/a


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Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

2010-01-19 Thread David Wilkinson
MikeyG wrote:
 Having left Seamonkey for Firefox, when SM2 came out and poop canned
 it's Form Manager, I was wondering if 'porting' some, of these Add-Ons
 I'm using in Firefox only, need the install script adjusted to allow
 them to install into Seamonkey, but I dunno.

I have hacked several FireFox addin's to work on SM2. I even wrote myself a
little program to do it.

Not much luck with Thunderbird ones though.

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Re: SM2 pop up blocker

2010-01-19 Thread hawker
So I tried this yesterday and what you mention isn't what I was looking 
for.  The lower right corner icon will allow pop ups for that side.
What I want is a way to allow just the one blocked pop up but no others 
and not automatically allow for that site.
Firefox can do this, so i assumed that SM2.x could.  Can this be done 
with an extension or some preference about:config or something that I 
missed?


Hawker


On 1/18/2010 10:35 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote:

hawker a écrit :


One thing I like is how SM2 blocks pop ups over SM1.x. The one issue is
if I want the pop up there is no option to accept it like there is in
FireFox. Is there a setting to make the pop up blocking more like
FireFox where I can choose to override it for that one instance?


When a popup is blocked, a little icon is shown in your browser (for me, 
it's at the bottom right, but I don't know if it's standard). You can 
click on it to change the behaviour.


Also, you can go in Tools - Popups to accept or refuse all popups from 
the current site. You can also manage your popup preferences that way.


S.

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Re: VML/SVG

2010-01-19 Thread William Greenwood

JD wrote:

n...@home wrote:

I'm using SM 2.0.2

When I use the Best Western web site, it whines that my browser does not
support SVG and VML. I don't know what those are, but it appears to be
related to using a map they display.

Is there an add-on I can use to get this capability. Its hard to pick
one from the plugin site when I don't even know what I am looking for.


They're using a browser sniffer and they don't recognize SM. I went to:
http://www.bestwestern.com/ with no warning. You can report their error
to them or change a setting in SM.


Change what setting in SM?
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Re: Q about mail/news sorting

2010-01-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/11/2010 8:10 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Arne wrote:


Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/11/2010 3:41 AM, Arne wrote:

I would like to know what the difference is between Sort by: Date
and Sort by: Received?

Do you mean Sort by: Order Received? That is the date/time the message
showed up on your doorstep, regardless of the date shown in the Date
header of the message. These can be different.
No, I don't mean Sort by: Order Received. As I wrote, I can see what 
happen with that sort order. But I can't see what happen with the 
plain Received sorting that is different from sorting by Date.

OK, here's a theory:

If you look at a message header, you'll see that it contains Date: and 
Received: fields. The Date: field is the date attached by the sending 
computer, which may or may not be accurate. The Received: fields are 
attached by the various servers that handle the message en route.


So if you sort by Date:, you're sorting by when the sender's computer 
thought it sent it, and if you sort by Received:, you're sorting by when 
one of the mail servers thought it got it. Could be as much as several 
days apart.




How do you sort by Received. I don't have that option. In my SeaMonkey,
I have no such option. I do have Sort by Order Received. Is that what
you're talking about. I've found that is set to the time the message is
placed in the mail folder.

For example, if I get three messages: A, B and C - in that order, then
move them into another mail folder in this order: First B, then A, then C,
and the other mail folder is set to display in the Order Received, the
messages are display in this order: B, A, C.

As far as I can see, it's not using the dates in the received headers at
all.

Perhaps this changed for SM 2.x. This is how it's always worked for me
in SeaMonkey 1.1.X (and I'm pretty sure earlier Mozilla products as
well).


Well, I'm in the same boat as you -- my SM 1.1.16 only offers Order 
received, and I have no idea how it would calculate that, since the 
message header doesn't contain that info. Does SM somehow mark each 
message with a date/time stamp of its own???


I can sort by the sender's date, of course, that's trivial.

My fallback theory is that some programmer devised a bad name for 
something, and he probably means something else.


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Re: Q about mail/news sorting

2010-01-19 Thread Mark Hansen
On 1/19/2010 6:40 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 1/11/2010 8:10 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Arne wrote:

 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 1/11/2010 3:41 AM, Arne wrote:
 I would like to know what the difference is between Sort by: Date
 and Sort by: Received?
 Do you mean Sort by: Order Received? That is the date/time the message
 showed up on your doorstep, regardless of the date shown in the Date
 header of the message. These can be different.
 No, I don't mean Sort by: Order Received. As I wrote, I can see what 
 happen with that sort order. But I can't see what happen with the 
 plain Received sorting that is different from sorting by Date.
 OK, here's a theory:

 If you look at a message header, you'll see that it contains Date: and 
 Received: fields. The Date: field is the date attached by the sending 
 computer, which may or may not be accurate. The Received: fields are 
 attached by the various servers that handle the message en route.

 So if you sort by Date:, you're sorting by when the sender's computer 
 thought it sent it, and if you sort by Received:, you're sorting by when 
 one of the mail servers thought it got it. Could be as much as several 
 days apart.

 
 How do you sort by Received. I don't have that option. In my SeaMonkey,
 I have no such option. I do have Sort by Order Received. Is that what
 you're talking about. I've found that is set to the time the message is
 placed in the mail folder.
 
 For example, if I get three messages: A, B and C - in that order, then
 move them into another mail folder in this order: First B, then A, then C,
 and the other mail folder is set to display in the Order Received, the
 messages are display in this order: B, A, C.
 
 As far as I can see, it's not using the dates in the received headers at
 all.
 
 Perhaps this changed for SM 2.x. This is how it's always worked for me
 in SeaMonkey 1.1.X (and I'm pretty sure earlier Mozilla products as
 well).
 
 Well, I'm in the same boat as you -- my SM 1.1.16 only offers Order 
 received, and I have no idea how it would calculate that, since the 
 message header doesn't contain that info. Does SM somehow mark each 
 message with a date/time stamp of its own???

Based on my experience (described above) it keeps track of the date/time
the message was placed into the mail folder. This is the order the message
was received by the mail folder.

 
 I can sort by the sender's date, of course, that's trivial.
 
 My fallback theory is that some programmer devised a bad name for 
 something, and he probably means something else.
 
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.0.2's crashreporter segfault in my Debian/Linux box.

2010-01-19 Thread Ant

On 1/19/2010 2:03 AM PT, Neil typed:


I have no idea if my report went through or not. :)


What does about:crashes say?


Cool feature and thanks. Only one line on this box:
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-2b6408af-44a7-4af4-9979-a3ab82100118 
... No idea if I can reproduce it since this was my first time on it. ;)

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.0.2's crashreporter segfault in my Debian/Linux box.

2010-01-19 Thread Neil

Ant wrote:


On 1/19/2010 2:03 AM PT, Neil typed:


I have no idea if my report went through or not. :)


What does about:crashes say?


Cool feature and thanks. Only one line on this box:
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-2b6408af-44a7-4af4-9979-a3ab82100118 
... No idea if I can reproduce it since this was my first time on it. ;)


Also it happens during cycle collection which means that it may not 
trigger until some time after the memory corruption occurred.


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How to use SeaMonkey to do ftp uploads?

2010-01-19 Thread robert . gault
I remember, back in the day, that Netscape permitted browsing to an ftp 
site and dragging and dropping files for upload to the site. I think 
that was also possible with Mozilla. With SeaMonkey 2.02, any time I try 
to drag and drop a file onto an ftp site, SeaMonkey thinks I'm trying to 
download a file.


Is there any way to use SeaMonkey for ftp uploads to sites?
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Re: How to start SM Browser with a spécific p age/file

2010-01-19 Thread Ray_Net

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Ray_Net:


'affe -browser file:///usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/index.html'.


Tested 
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe - browser file:///C:/Program

  ^
There is a space which shouldn't be there. ;)


Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html
just opened the browser with his habitual home page.

However  héhé ... this ...
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe file:///C:/Program
Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html
is working perfectly.


Fine. :)

Hartmut


You are the best 
This -
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -browser file:///C:/Program 
Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html

 - is working now.
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Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

2010-01-19 Thread MikeyG

On 1/19/2010 6:35 AM, David Wilkinson wrote:

MikeyG wrote:

Having left Seamonkey for Firefox, when SM2 came out and poop canned
it's Form Manager, I was wondering if 'porting' some, of these Add-Ons
I'm using in Firefox only, need the install script adjusted to allow
them to install into Seamonkey, but I dunno.


I have hacked several FireFox addin's to work on SM2. I even wrote myself a
little program to do it.

Not much luck with Thunderbird ones though.



I'd think your program to hack FF's add-ons to SM would be appreciated 
by many; thought of putting it up at Moziilla's add-ons; if it ain't 
already?

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.0.2's crashreporter segfault in my Debian/Linux box.

2010-01-19 Thread Ant

On 1/19/2010 7:21 AM PT, Neil typed:


I have no idea if my report went through or not. :)


What does about:crashes say?


Cool feature and thanks. Only one line on this box:
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-2b6408af-44a7-4af4-9979-a3ab82100118
... No idea if I can reproduce it since this was my first time on it. ;)


Also it happens during cycle collection which means that it may not
trigger until some time after the memory corruption occurred.


Hmm. I recalled I was closing a bunch of tabs and exiting SM very fast 
(didn't want SM to memorize my tabbed sessions I had), and the crash 
came up.

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.0.2's crashreporter segfault in my Debian/Linux box.

2010-01-19 Thread Neil

Ant wrote:


On 1/19/2010 7:21 AM PT, Neil typed:

Also it happens during cycle collection which means that it may not 
trigger until some time after the memory corruption occurred.


Hmm. I recalled I was closing a bunch of tabs and exiting SM very fast 
(didn't want SM to memorize my tabbed sessions I had), and the crash 
came up.


Right, so closing a window triggers cycle collection, but the memory 
corruption could have happened some time before, unfortunately.


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Re: How to use SeaMonkey to do ftp uploads?

2010-01-19 Thread Benoit Renard

robert.ga...@att.net wrote:

Is there any way to use SeaMonkey for ftp uploads to sites?


I always did it through File  Upload File... instead of dragdrop. Is 
it possible to still do it that way in SeaMonkey 2.0.x?

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Lou

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 14 janvier 2010, Phillip Jones a écrit :
snip
On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about
installing Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.

Cheers.


I installed Autofill by modifying the install.rdf. The Add-on manager 
shows it as installed and I can access the preferences settings, but I 
don't see the icon on the toolbar or any context menu that may allow me 
to autofill everything.

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Transfer from Microsoft mail

2010-01-19 Thread Irwing

I installed Windows 7 on a former Vista Home Premium computer.

After that was not Microsoft Mail avaible any more.
I made a backup but can not transfer it into Seamonkey,
and the Seamonkey does not accept the Swedish letters å ä ö ( a with a 
circle and with two dots and o with teo dots over)


Anyone who knows?

Greetings
Irwing Johanson. Sweden

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Re: Form Assistance Add-Ons

2010-01-19 Thread Phillip Jones

David Wilkinson wrote:

MikeyG wrote:

Having left Seamonkey for Firefox, when SM2 came out and poop canned
it's Form Manager, I was wondering if 'porting' some, of these Add-Ons
I'm using in Firefox only, need the install script adjusted to allow
them to install into Seamonkey, but I dunno.


I have hacked several FireFox addin's to work on SM2. I even wrote myself a
little program to do it.

Not much luck with Thunderbird ones though.



This one refers to a FireFox extension that from description looks like 
its identical looking to the old Forms Manager in SM 1.1.8 of course you 
can't tell much from the little picture shown on the page for it.


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Re: How to start SM Browser with a spécific p age/file

2010-01-19 Thread Ralph

Ray_Net wrote:

Ralph wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have a link on my desktop to Start SM Browser.
Using it bring me SM Browser with his Home page.
Is it possible to modify a copy of this link in such a way that the
browser start and display a spécific page like:
file:///C:/Program Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html
?
(in case SM is not the default browser)

If you want your browser to open to a specific page from a shortcut on
your desktop. Go to your page however you normally do then grab the
favicon to the left of the URL (your mouse pointer will become a
hand)and drag it (right mouse hold) to your desk top.

But you may then have the issue I am grappling with.. an error message
from Windows about not being able to find the file.. The page will in
fact open.. and you will have to close the error message before the
desktop becomes accessible to you. This seems to be a bit of a bug.


That's creating a Web document link - it will open with the default
browser - not always SM.


If you want to open into a specific browser here is what works for me 
when I want to test my website in a number of different browsers.


Have a shortcut on your desktop to the program itself. IE, Safari 
Firefox SeaMonkey etc. then drag your Web document link on to that 
shortcut and it will open in that browser and go to that page.


Your web document link is what I have been told is called an Internet 
Shortcut.. The result of dragging a favicon (that little icon to the 
left of the URL) to my desktop.

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Re: Q about mail/news sorting

2010-01-19 Thread William Morrison

Hi Mark and Arne

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 1/19/2010 6:40 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
   

Mark Hansen wrote:
 

On 1/11/2010 8:10 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
   

Arne wrote:

 

Mark Hansen wrote:
   

On 1/11/2010 3:41 AM, Arne wrote:
 

I would like to know what the difference is between Sort by: Date
and Sort by: Received?
   

Do you mean Sort by: Order Received? That is the date/time the message
showed up on your doorstep, regardless of the date shown in the Date
header of the message. These can be different.
 

No, I don't mean Sort by: Order Received. As I wrote, I can see what
happen with that sort order. But I can't see what happen with the
plain Received sorting that is different from sorting by Date.
   

OK, here's a theory:

If you look at a message header, you'll see that it contains Date: and
Received: fields. The Date: field is the date attached by the sending
computer, which may or may not be accurate. The Received: fields are
attached by the various servers that handle the message en route.

So if you sort by Date:, you're sorting by when the sender's computer
thought it sent it, and if you sort by Received:, you're sorting by when
one of the mail servers thought it got it. Could be as much as several
days apart.

 

How do you sort by Received. I don't have that option. In my SeaMonkey,
I have no such option. I do have Sort by Order Received. Is that what
you're talking about. I've found that is set to the time the message is
placed in the mail folder.

For example, if I get three messages: A, B and C - in that order, then
move them into another mail folder in this order: First B, then A, then C,
and the other mail folder is set to display in the Order Received, the
messages are display in this order: B, A, C.

As far as I can see, it's not using the dates in the received headers at
all.

Perhaps this changed for SM 2.x. This is how it's always worked for me
in SeaMonkey 1.1.X (and I'm pretty sure earlier Mozilla products as
well).
   

Well, I'm in the same boat as you -- my SM 1.1.16 only offers Order
received, and I have no idea how it would calculate that, since the
message header doesn't contain that info. Does SM somehow mark each
message with a date/time stamp of its own???
 

Based on my experience (described above) it keeps track of the date/time
the message was placed into the mail folder. This is the order the message
was received by the mail folder.

   

I can sort by the sender's date, of course, that's trivial.

My fallback theory is that some programmer devised a bad name for
something, and he probably means something else.

 

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Actually the time date stamp is add by the sending computer, as you can 
see this email has a time date stamp of a year ago to the minute and 
that's because I rolled back my computer time just to show how it works.



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Re: How to use SeaMonkey to do ftp uploads?

2010-01-19 Thread hawker
Netscape classic versions (V4.6 and before at least) NEVER allowed FTP 
uploads. Early versions didn't even allow password protected FTP, there 
was a funky work around for that.


For FTP I use FileZilla
http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/

On 1/19/2010 10:31 AM, robert.ga...@att.net wrote:
I remember, back in the day, that Netscape permitted browsing to an ftp 
site and dragging and dropping files for upload to the site. I think 
that was also possible with Mozilla. With SeaMonkey 2.02, any time I try 
to drag and drop a file onto an ftp site, SeaMonkey thinks I'm trying to 
download a file.


Is there any way to use SeaMonkey for ftp uploads to sites?

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Re: How to use SeaMonkey to do ftp uploads?

2010-01-19 Thread Leonidas Jones

Benoit Renard wrote:

robert.ga...@att.net wrote:

Is there any way to use SeaMonkey for ftp uploads to sites?


I always did it through File  Upload File... instead of dragdrop. Is
it possible to still do it that way in SeaMonkey 2.0.x?


For more robust FTP features, there is the FireFTP extension.  Get it 
from here in a version modified for SeaMonkey:


http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html

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Pdf problem in 1.1.18

2010-01-19 Thread John Doue

Here is puzzling problem:

In SM 1.1.18, I can view pdf files from the navigator with the internal 
viewer, but double-clicking on an attached pdf to an email leaves SM 
totally indifferent: no reaction whatsoever.


The same attachment opens correctly when clicked upon from TB3, opening 
Adobe Acrobat which is installed on my system.


Creating a helpers application does not help. Any ideas? Thanks
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Re: VML/SVG

2010-01-19 Thread JeffM
JD wrote:
You can report their error to them or change a setting in SM.

William Greenwood wrote:
Change what setting in SM?

The most commonly asked question in this group:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/search?group=mozilla.support.seamonkeyq=user-agent-stringqt_g=Search+this+group
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Re: How to start SM Browser with a spécific p age/file

2010-01-19 Thread Ray_Net

Ralph wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ralph wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have a link on my desktop to Start SM Browser.
Using it bring me SM Browser with his Home page.
Is it possible to modify a copy of this link in such a way that the
browser start and display a spécific page like:
file:///C:/Program Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html
?
(in case SM is not the default browser)

If you want your browser to open to a specific page from a shortcut on
your desktop. Go to your page however you normally do then grab the
favicon to the left of the URL (your mouse pointer will become a
hand)and drag it (right mouse hold) to your desk top.

But you may then have the issue I am grappling with.. an error message
from Windows about not being able to find the file.. The page will in
fact open.. and you will have to close the error message before the
desktop becomes accessible to you. This seems to be a bit of a bug.


That's creating a Web document link - it will open with the default
browser - not always SM.


If you want to open into a specific browser here is what works for me
when I want to test my website in a number of different browsers.

Have a shortcut on your desktop to the program itself. IE, Safari
Firefox SeaMonkey etc. then drag your Web document link on to that
shortcut and it will open in that browser and go to that page.

Your web document link is what I have been told is called an Internet
Shortcut.. The result of dragging a favicon (that little icon to the
left of the URL) to my desktop.


Hartmut Figge give me solution:
1. Create a copy of the destop icon starting SM and modifying his 
properties by filling the target with:


This -
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -browser file:///C:/Program 
Files/GIMP-2.0/share/gimp/2.0/help/fr/index.html

 - is working as expected without the need of dragging something..
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Re: How to use SeaMonkey to do ftp uploads?

2010-01-19 Thread robert . gault

Benoit Renard wrote:

robert.ga...@att.net wrote:

Is there any way to use SeaMonkey for ftp uploads to sites?


I always did it through File  Upload File... instead of dragdrop. Is
it possible to still do it that way in SeaMonkey 2.0.x?


Tried that but it does not do anything.
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Re: How to use SeaMonkey to do ftp uploads?

2010-01-19 Thread robert . gault

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Benoit Renard wrote:

robert.ga...@att.net wrote:

Is there any way to use SeaMonkey for ftp uploads to sites?


I always did it through File  Upload File... instead of dragdrop. Is
it possible to still do it that way in SeaMonkey 2.0.x?


For more robust FTP features, there is the FireFTP extension. Get it
from here in a version modified for SeaMonkey:

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html

Lee


Thank you. That seems to work quite well.
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Re: VML/SVG

2010-01-19 Thread JD

William Greenwood wrote:

JD wrote:

n...@home wrote:

I'm using SM 2.0.2

When I use the Best Western web site, it whines that my browser does not
support SVG and VML. I don't know what those are, but it appears to be
related to using a map they display.

Is there an add-on I can use to get this capability. Its hard to pick
one from the plugin site when I don't even know what I am looking for.


They're using a browser sniffer and they don't recognize SM. I went to:
http://www.bestwestern.com/ with no warning. You can report their error
to them or change a setting in SM.


Change what setting in SM?


Here,s what I did:

about:config in the address bar.

Filter for

general.useragent.extra.spoof

If it doesn't exist, then create it.

Status will be user set, Type will be string and the Value should be set 
to  NOT Firefox/3.5.4


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Re: VML/SVG

2010-01-19 Thread n...@home



Hartmut Figge wrote:

JD:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

n...@home:



When I use the Best Western web site, it whines that my browser does not
support SVG and VML.  I don't know what those are, but it appears to be
related to using a map they display.


URL?


http://www.bestwestern.com/


Thanks. No whining when i call that site, even with svg.enabled set to
false.

Hartmut


I've been back to the site and perhaps I did not identify the problem 
clearly.  I can enter the site, but when I put in a city name and ask it 
to find a hotel, it displays a map and a list of hotels, with the whiney 
message on top of the map saying that I might not be able to use all the 
features of the map because of the lack of SVG and VML.  Today I tried 
the features of the map and one of the options offered (like street map, 
terrain map, satellite map, etc.) was 3d.  The 3d was the only feature 
that didn't work, and when I tried it I was referred to a page to load a 
microsoft feature to my browser.  I declined, since they didn't give 
information showing me it would work.  The 3d feature looked 
interesting, but I can get along without it.

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Re: Transfer from Microsoft mail

2010-01-19 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 19/1/2010 14:56, Irwing told the world:
 I installed Windows 7 on a former Vista Home Premium computer.
 
 After that was not Microsoft Mail avaible any more.

Yeah, Win7 no longer includes Mail. M$ suggests downloading Windows Live
Mail instead.

 I made a backup but can not transfer it into Seamonkey,

Try the ImportExportTools extension -- it should be able to import the
.eml files Windows Mail uses.

 and the Seamonkey does not accept the Swedish letters å ä ö ( a with a 
 circle and with two dots and o with teo dots over)

Well, that surprises me, Seamonkey is supposed to be
internationalization-friendly. If this is correct, then it sure should
be fixed. Please give more details: in which context those letters
aren't accepted? Do you mean you can't read them or you can't type them?
In which part of the program.

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:23:20 +0100, Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Le 19 janvier 2010, Philip Chee a écrit :
 
 You really should point to the en-US version at:

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4775
 
 Yep, sorry for the inconvenience. I'm automatically redirected to the fr/ 
 page when I go to addons.mozilla.org. Users who prefer en/ should be 
 automatically pointed there to. A glitch in the website or in SM?

No, generally the AMO website looks at your HTTP headers for the
language accept string and then switches to whatever your browser claims
to be the preferred language, /unless/ you explicitly specify a specific
language as you did.

I generally leave out the language and the application e.g.
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/4775

AMO will then try to detect your accept languages and the browser
application you are using. If the extension is SeaMonkey compatible, AMO
will automatically switch you to the page with SeaMonkey specific
information and to your preferred language e.g.

https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/seamonkey/addon/4775

(assuming you are a dutch SeaMonkey user of course).

Phil

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Re: SM2 pop up blocker

2010-01-19 Thread NO

hawker wrote:

So I tried this yesterday and what you mention isn't what I was looking
for. The lower right corner icon will allow pop ups for that side.
What I want is a way to allow just the one blocked pop up but no others
and not automatically allow for that site.
Firefox can do this, so i assumed that SM2.x could. Can this be done
with an extension or some preference about:config or something that I
missed?

Hawker


On 1/18/2010 10:35 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote:

hawker a écrit :


One thing I like is how SM2 blocks pop ups over SM1.x. The one issue is
if I want the pop up there is no option to accept it like there is in
FireFox. Is there a setting to make the pop up blocking more like
FireFox where I can choose to override it for that one instance?


When a popup is blocked, a little icon is shown in your browser (for
me, it's at the bottom right, but I don't know if it's standard). You
can click on it to change the behaviour.

Also, you can go in Tools - Popups to accept or refuse all popups
from the current site. You can also manage your popup preferences that
way.

S.


Hello All,

My challenge is that for certain sites (hgtv.com) for which I have not 
permitted pop ups, I get netflix and do not know how to stop this. Have 
I missed something in the settings or is there something I need to do 
further to prevent this?


TIA - Bo1953
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Re: How to use SeaMonkey to do ftp uploads?

2010-01-19 Thread Philip Chee
On 20/01/2010 03:05, hawker wrote:
 On 1/19/2010 10:31 AM, robert.ga...@att.net wrote:
 Is there any way to use SeaMonkey for ftp uploads to sites?

 Netscape classic versions (V4.6 and before at least) NEVER allowed FTP 
 uploads. Early versions didn't even allow password protected FTP, there 
 was a funky work around for that.
 
 For FTP I use FileZilla
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/

http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fireftp

Phil

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:37:57 -0500, Lou wrote:
 Lucas Levrel wrote:
 Le 14 janvier 2010, Phillip Jones a écrit :
snip
 On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about
 installing Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.

 Cheers.
 
 I installed Autofill by modifying the install.rdf. The Add-on manager 
 shows it as installed and I can access the preferences settings, but I 
 don't see the icon on the toolbar or any context menu that may allow me 
 to autofill everything.

***Purely based on code inspection***:

In the chrome.manifest file, replace the following lines:

overlay chrome://browser/content/browser.xul

chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOverlay.xul

style   chrome://browser/content/browser.xul

chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=3.0 os=Darwin

style   chrome://global/content/customizeToolbar.xul
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=3.0 os=Darwin

with

overlay chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul

chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOverlay.xul

style   chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul

chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=2.0 os=Darwin

style   chrome://global/content/customizeToolbar.xul
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=2.0 os=Darwin

-

Replace:

style   chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions2.css   appversion3.0

style   chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions1.5.css appversion2.0

with:

# commented out style   
chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions2.css   appversion3.0

# commented out style   
chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions1.5.css appversion2.0

Phil

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Re: Form Managers / Fillers

2010-01-19 Thread Lou

Philip Chee wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:37:57 -0500, Lou wrote:

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 14 janvier 2010, Phillip Jones a écrit :
snip
On 19 nov 2009, Jens Hatlak posted in this forum a how-to about
installing Form Autofill, a Firefox add-on that does the trick.

Cheers.


I installed Autofill by modifying the install.rdf. The Add-on manager
shows it as installed and I can access the preferences settings, but I
don't see the icon on the toolbar or any context menu that may allow me
to autofill everything.


***Purely based on code inspection***:

In the chrome.manifest file, replace the following lines:

overlay chrome://browser/content/browser.xul

chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOverlay.xul

style   chrome://browser/content/browser.xul

chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=3.0 os=Darwin

style   chrome://global/content/customizeToolbar.xul
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=3.0 os=Darwin

with

overlay chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul

chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOverlay.xul

style   chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul

chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=2.0 os=Darwin

style   chrome://global/content/customizeToolbar.xul
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsMac.css
appversion=2.0 os=Darwin

-

Replace:

style   chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions2.css   appversion3.0

style   chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions1.5.css appversion2.0

with:

# commented out style   
chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions2.css   appversion3.0

# commented out style   
chrome://autofillforms/content/autofillFormsOptions.xul 
chrome://autofillforms/skin/autofillFormsOptions1.5.css appversion2.0

Phil



Thank you so much!!! It now works like a charm.  This is exactly what I 
was looking for.


Lou
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Re: Transfer from Microsoft mail

2010-01-19 Thread Irwing

Comments from Irw:
I have tried MS Mail but didnt like it.
So now I have tested MS Outlook, Thunderbird, Eudora and SM2.
SM2 was the best for my needs.

The import tool only allow me to import from Thunderbird.
I use swe version 2.0.2

I cant read the letters å-ä-ö in inkoming mails i thought when I wrote 
my question
I can type them and I realised first when I got this answer, that I 
could read them in your answer which surprised me.

When I look back I can see that just some mails have this defect.
Are they composed in some special way and how can I correct this?

Thanks for your reply
( but I actually missed the CNN feature :)  )

MCBastos skriver:

Interviewed by CNN on 19/1/2010 14:56, Irwing told the world:
   

I installed Windows 7 on a former Vista Home Premium computer.

After that was not Microsoft Mail avaible any more.
 

Yeah, Win7 no longer includes Mail. M$ suggests downloading Windows Live
Mail instead.

   

I made a backup but can not transfer it into Seamonkey,
 

Try the ImportExportTools extension -- it should be able to import the
.eml files Windows Mail uses.

   

and the Seamonkey does not accept the Swedish letters å ä ö ( a with a
circle and with two dots and o with teo dots over)
 

Well, that surprises me, Seamonkey is supposed to be
internationalization-friendly. If this is correct, then it sure should
be fixed. Please give more details: in which context those letters
aren't accepted? Do you mean you can't read them or you can't type them?
In which part of the program.

   




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