Re: Creating HTML email messages
Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: JeffM wrote: John Klein wrote: I need a way to create several HTML email messages for transmission by 3rd party email list owners. First, tell them that is the stupid way to do things. Don't you understand, USENET is not the prime thrust any more, and not everyone sticks with the more efficient 6-bit BCD characters either! But egotistical people who think they must thrust their choices on everyone else are still with us. Go get a sharp chisel and fresh tablet and write your blog. Email is a plain text medium. That hasn't been true for decades. HTML is for Web pages. 1) Create the HTML page. 2) Upload the page to a server. 3) Email only the link to the Web page. Feel free. In fact please do. Any time you feel the need to say some egotistical self-righteous thing in I do it this way, so no one else should do it some other way please put it on a web site and post the link so anyone who care can look at it. Outside the obvious drawbacks that it add vast complexity (other applications and servers, more networking) and makes the material available to anyone, it's more likely to cause misunderstanding when no emphasis is used. Not to mention text not being flowed and self-formatting into the reader's choice of width rather the poster's idea. People read email on many devices with many types of display, HTML allows the reader more control over presentation. The days of email over 300 bps dial up stored on 10MB eight inch drives is over. There's simply no reason to stick to text any more, and if you choose to filter, please do it quietly. And I haven't mentioned that many people read on devices where web browsing is either not supported or is extra cost. The world has moved past the time when there was a benefit to saving a few bytes, the cost of inferior communication is now higher than any saving. If you want saving, limit message size and reject messages with excessive quoting. That still has benefit. And so says Bill Davidson whom, I guessing, has ADSL/Cable, so expects EVERYBODY to have it!! (and I can go back to 50baud and 75baud machines and punched tape readers as well!) And Bill if I limit my downloaded messages to only those of 1kByte or less, that still doesn't stop your 1MByte message arriving on my ISP's server for my mail account, so costing me extra because you've exceeded my daily 500kByte mail limit. (Don't worry, Bill, it's not just you, I'm still trying to educate my family members as well!!) Daniel My goodness. My ISP cheapest POTS line allow unlimited access time and a 50mb per email box limit per day. I use a slow SDLS 1 mb. and mail box size it much larger. HTML Mail without attachments and no embedded pictures or music doesn't even come close filling up my boxes. I had one warning recently because my niece sent 20 uncut Digital Camera Pictures in one whack. if she had done maybe ten one day and ten the next would not have been problem. I informed her of the situation. no problems since then. Lucky you, Phillip, but do you live in a bigish city/town or out in the sticks?? Daniel So far in the sticks they have to pipe sunshine periodical. Oh, well! There I go, I have always taken you (and most here) as big city slickers with prime time services! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Plugin Check] Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
NoOp wrote: Only the first two show as up to date; the rest, including the most recent version of java show Unable to Detect Plugin Version - Research. Yes, unfortunately, plugins don't tell us their version usually, and Mozilla also doesn't know all the plugins that actually do exist, so that site only has checks for a very specific set of plugins that we know are used often enough and that somehow report us a useful version (Adobe Reader for example is used a lot but doesn't tell a useful version). Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey freezing Computer
Robert Kaiser wrote: George Carden wrote: I have a problem with SeaMonkey freezing just itself when downloading RSS Feeds material. Anybody else experience this? You mean point 4 in http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues - right? Robert Kaiser Hmmm...Could be, Robert. Mine was already set to delete after 30 days. I'm turning it down to 10 and will see if that makes any difference. Thanx! -George ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating HTML email messages
Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: JeffM wrote: John Klein wrote: I need a way to create several HTML email messages for transmission by 3rd party email list owners. First, tell them that is the stupid way to do things. Don't you understand, USENET is not the prime thrust any more, and not everyone sticks with the more efficient 6-bit BCD characters either! But egotistical people who think they must thrust their choices on everyone else are still with us. Go get a sharp chisel and fresh tablet and write your blog. Email is a plain text medium. That hasn't been true for decades. HTML is for Web pages. 1) Create the HTML page. 2) Upload the page to a server. 3) Email only the link to the Web page. Feel free. In fact please do. Any time you feel the need to say some egotistical self-righteous thing in I do it this way, so no one else should do it some other way please put it on a web site and post the link so anyone who care can look at it. Outside the obvious drawbacks that it add vast complexity (other applications and servers, more networking) and makes the material available to anyone, it's more likely to cause misunderstanding when no emphasis is used. Not to mention text not being flowed and self-formatting into the reader's choice of width rather the poster's idea. People read email on many devices with many types of display, HTML allows the reader more control over presentation. The days of email over 300 bps dial up stored on 10MB eight inch drives is over. There's simply no reason to stick to text any more, and if you choose to filter, please do it quietly. And I haven't mentioned that many people read on devices where web browsing is either not supported or is extra cost. The world has moved past the time when there was a benefit to saving a few bytes, the cost of inferior communication is now higher than any saving. If you want saving, limit message size and reject messages with excessive quoting. That still has benefit. And so says Bill Davidson whom, I guessing, has ADSL/Cable, so expects EVERYBODY to have it!! (and I can go back to 50baud and 75baud machines and punched tape readers as well!) And Bill if I limit my downloaded messages to only those of 1kByte or less, that still doesn't stop your 1MByte message arriving on my ISP's server for my mail account, so costing me extra because you've exceeded my daily 500kByte mail limit. (Don't worry, Bill, it's not just you, I'm still trying to educate my family members as well!!) Daniel My goodness. My ISP cheapest POTS line allow unlimited access time and a 50mb per email box limit per day. I use a slow SDLS 1 mb. and mail box size it much larger. HTML Mail without attachments and no embedded pictures or music doesn't even come close filling up my boxes. I had one warning recently because my niece sent 20 uncut Digital Camera Pictures in one whack. if she had done maybe ten one day and ten the next would not have been problem. I informed her of the situation. no problems since then. Lucky you, Phillip, but do you live in a bigish city/town or out in the sticks?? Daniel So far in the sticks they have to pipe sunshine periodical. Oh, well! There I go, I have always taken you (and most here) as big city slickers with prime time services! Daniel 1 mb DSL is not prime time service. with Cable modems upwards of 15-20 or more mb per second. Even though mine is Classified as DSL it actual Name is DSL over Copper which is is a code word for the system that predates DSL that was only slightly better than POTS where they took two lines and used I what is called bonded pairs. Its been so long a go I forgot what it was called. But the new euphemism for it is DSL over copper. I pay a heavy price for it. But my ISP provides up to 5 mailboxes unlimited time 50 mb per mailbox, and provides the phone line. If the phone line dies, then its on their nickel and they provide the Modem and Router. And My ISP doesn't provide a news server though I have to subscribe to my own Newsgroups. Sprint who was the carrier at the time deep sixed there USENET Server. The local cable company might be cheaper for one mailbox. but then they charge you 10 bucks rent for Modem and 10 for Router and each mailbox is 5 bucks more so I'd end up about the same price as now. and in our area cable is only marginally better than what I have now. Plus every time there is a big snow storm or a thunderstorm, the cable goes out hours or days at a time. Since I've been with my ISP about 10 years, they been out of service 7 times. 3 times altogether for a day. 4 times where long distance was slowed own because of cuts in phone lines in other parts of the state. But know I am definitely not in a big city. in fact our area Martinsville/Henry county is so economically depressed we have about 22-25% unemployment. About as bad or worse than Appalachia. I could
SM 1.1.18 Bug?
My wife is running the above released on her PC, and I am the 1,2,3... level support for her :) She has been complaining that her read keep disappearing from her in-box without her deleting them. She closes the email window by clicking on the x on the window. So in her preferences, I turn on to keep email on the server and delete them ONLY when she actually deletes them. I did verify that her emails are indeed being deleted, by sending her an email, reading it and closing SM without deleting the email. On restarting, email is gone from her inbox and from the server. Is this a known bug and is there a fix which I can apply? Thanks for any help ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey freezing Computer
George Carden wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: George Carden wrote: I have a problem with SeaMonkey freezing just itself when downloading RSS Feeds material. Anybody else experience this? You mean point 4 in http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues - right? Robert Kaiser Hmmm...Could be, Robert. Mine was already set to delete after 30 days. I'm turning it down to 10 and will see if that makes any difference. Thanx! -George Robert, That didn't seem to help any. Setting it back to 30 days. -George ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 Bug?
On 3/26/10 7:24 AM, Lionel C. Abrahams wrote: My wife is running the above released on her PC, and I am the 1,2,3... level support for her :) She has been complaining that her read keep disappearing from her in-box without her deleting them. She closes the email window by clicking on the x on the window. So in her preferences, I turn on to keep email on the server and delete them ONLY when she actually deletes them. I did verify that her emails are indeed being deleted, by sending her an email, reading it and closing SM without deleting the email. On restarting, email is gone from her inbox and from the server. Is this a known bug and is there a fix which I can apply? Thanks for any help Support of the SeaMonkey 1.x series is being discontinued. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 addresses some security bugs, but no further versions are expected. If your wife is not stuck on Windows 98 (as my wife is), upgrade her to SeaMonkey 2.0.3. Since I don't use SeaMonkey for E-mail, however, I don't know if SeaMonkey 2.0.3 addresses your wife's specific problem. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 Bug?
Lionel C. Abrahams a écrit : She has been complaining that her read keep disappearing from her in-box without her deleting them. She closes the email window by clicking on the x on the window. So in her preferences, I turn on to keep email on the server and delete them ONLY when she actually deletes them. I did verify that her emails are indeed being deleted, by sending her an email, reading it and closing SM without deleting the email. Make sure that the prefs aren't set to show only unread messages (View - Messages - All — IIRC, my SM is not in English). S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Dick Hoffman a écrit : I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Did you actually delete Inbox.msf? That file is autogenerated, so deleting it is totally risk-free. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
S. Beaulieu wrote: Dick Hoffman a écrit : I'm using SM 2.0.3 under Windows XP-SP3. Recently I've started getting a message to the effect that SM experienced a problem truncating the Inbox after moving a message to another folder and that I might have to shut down SM and delete Inbox.msf. This happens about once a week and it's annoying. Any idea what's causing this and what I can do to stop it from happening? (This is my biggest problem with SM 2 - all in all a terrific product.) Did you actually delete Inbox.msf? That file is autogenerated, so deleting it is totally risk-free. S. Yes, I've deleted Inbox.msf each time I've gotten the message about the truncation problem, at least three times now. And yes, each time SM has regenerated it. Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
Dick Hoffman a écrit : Yes, I've deleted Inbox.msf each time I've gotten the message about the truncation problem, at least three times now. And yes, each time SM has regenerated it. Have you compacted your inbox? S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 Bug?
Lionel C. Abrahams wrote: My wife is running the above released on her PC, and I am the 1,2,3... level support for her :) She has been complaining that her read keep disappearing from her in-box without her deleting them. She closes the email window by clicking on the x on the window. So in her preferences, I turn on to keep email on the server and delete them ONLY when she actually deletes them. I did verify that her emails are indeed being deleted, by sending her an email, reading it and closing SM without deleting the email. On restarting, email is gone from her inbox and from the server. Is this a known bug and is there a fix which I can apply? Thanks for any help Not a bug! Simply User error: She had view NOT READ checked. Changed to view ALL and 170 messages popped up in her in basket! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey freezing Computer
On 03/26/2010 08:39 AM, George Carden wrote: George Carden wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: George Carden wrote: I have a problem with SeaMonkey freezing just itself when downloading RSS Feeds material. Anybody else experience this? You mean point 4 in http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues - right? Robert Kaiser Hmmm...Could be, Robert. Mine was already set to delete after 30 days. I'm turning it down to 10 and will see if that makes any difference. Thanx! -George Robert, That didn't seem to help any. Setting it back to 30 days. -George I am subscribed to newsgroups that are acually mailing lists (via gmane.org). Many of those list have thousands of headers, some dating back years (examples: back to 2004 212,600 msgs for one, back to 2001 149,728 msg for another). The only way I've found to manage this is to go into about:config and set: news.update_unread_on_expand;false I'm not sure that this will also help the rss issue, but the bug Robert pointed to is related to nntp, so you might give that a try so see if it works. Note that for nntp you need to manually click on 'Get Msgs' to get updated msgs while reading the newsgroup. After awhile I've just become use to clicking it every few moments to get new msgs. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Anybody gotten Nuke Anything Enhanced to work with SeaMonkey 1.x?
First, the name nuke_anything_enhanced-1.0.2-fx+sm.xpi is a lie--at least, in part. I get an Install script not found error with SM1. I unzipped it and edited **install.rdf** so that minVersion is 1.1. (The addons.mozilla.org/.../firefox page says it works with Firefox 2.0 (Gecko 1.8) or later; the copy of the file available from the addons.mozilla.org/.../seamonkey page is identical and doesn't make any adjustments for the SeaMonkey numbering system while claiming to support SeaMonkey 1.1 or later.) I zipped it back up and still get the error. Anybody tried this? Anybody see something I'm missing? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/951 ...or did my app just screw things up zipping the file? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey freezing Computer
Roger Fink a écrit : William Morrison wrote: Hey Group I'm having trouble with Seamonkey freezing my computer if I have my email open and am accessing some of Facebooks games i.e. Farmville, Country Life and My Casino. When and if I can get task manager open it shows 100% CPU usage with 94-99% going to Seamonkey, My computer is running a AMD Athalon XP 2.1Ghz with 512 meg of DDR PC2100 ram, Display Adapter VIA/S3G UniChrome IGP integrated on motherboard. If I try to do a normal shutdown of Seamonkey when this happens it does nothing and if I can get Windows Task Manager to open it takes sometimes up to 10 minutes for it to force Seamonkey to close. All 3 of these games use Adobe Flash Player to open and I have the newest version of both Flash Player and Java installed. Any suggestions on what could cause this and how short of stop play them I can avoid these freeze ups. If I access Facebook and these games using IE-8 or Google Chrome while I have Seamonkey email open I have no problem but would rather use Seamonkey for both. By all means upgrade your memory but I would prepare myself for no improvement in the situation as one possible outcome. I have SM 2.0.3 and Firefox 3.5.8 installed on two Thinkpads w/ 2mb RAM and they both routinely freeze up, requiring a manual shutdown and restart. The biggest improvement in the situation comes with switching off javascript. Switching off flash and adblock+ also appear to help. Obviously, these are desirable features which normally you would want to be fully functioning. The tipping point for all this started when I upgraded from avast4 to avast5, so that is also likely part of the problem. One thing I would like to try, but can't, is Panda's online realtime virus scanner program, which would greatly reduce (I think) one source of real time competition for memory and processor capacity. Need XP or later for that, but running Win2K. I can confirm that flash with some badly set web sites can make XP to go trashing in swap file. I tried some addons like noscript, and, better flashblock solved the problem. only one flash active is enough, some sites fire many more (with no use) adding some memory seems to make sense, but I could say that if you try to hide a problem, it can come back right in your face. try something like PageFileUsageMonitor to know exactly how this swap is in use. XP can do with 512 Megs of ram, 300 of page file, seamonkey browser + mail news, many windows, acrobat reader also. curiously an other PC XP with 1 Gb of ram, can do with no swap, but prefers to have 300 megs also. I suspect XP not very fine at using the swap. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Is anyone else getting an error?
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
Phillip Pi a émis l'idée suivante :
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
Yes.
Absolutely not W3C compliant.
I get 161 lines of error. Too much to show here.
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Re: Keep having to delete Inbox.msf
S. Beaulieu wrote: Dick Hoffman a écrit : Yes, I've deleted Inbox.msf each time I've gotten the message about the truncation problem, at least three times now. And yes, each time SM has regenerated it. Have you compacted your inbox? S. Yes I have. I do that once a week before I back up the SM profile. Some additional info regarding this problem: my wife tells me she's seen it quite a few times, and that when it happens the email filters that route messages to all the folders she's set up stop working temporarily. That is, messages that should have gone to a different folder remain in the Inbox, but messages that come in later do get filtered correctly. (I don't have any filtering set up for mail I receive.) Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
Phillip Pi wrote:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
...yes - fixed by spoofing my User Agent as Safari or IE8...
I have the same problem with this site if I click Enter Store
http://www.spruebrothers.com/
Also solved by spoofing my User Agent.
Problem is with the website(s)...
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Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
On 03/26/2010 06:08 PM, Phillip Pi wrote:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
Interesting that it works fine in Firefox 3.5.8, and the web developer
extension shows it as having no javascript or css errors, but I get the
same message in Seamonkey.
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Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/26/10 2:08 PM, Phillip Pi wrote:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
Ususally, that is an indication of a combination of invalid sniffing
plus broken code for handling unrecognized browsers.
However, in this case, I don't see the problem even with the standard
SeaMonkey user agent string:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8)
Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3
Since Bernard Mercier seems to have also seen your problem shortly after
you posted your message, I wonder if they might have fixed the Web site
already. Do you still see the problem with SeaMonkey 2.0.3?
Just going to the home page shows up fine (first link
http://www.bellagio.com/)
But html validator extension shows as having no errors but 101 warnings.
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Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
Phillip Jones wrote:
Phillip Pi wrote:
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
HTML Validator extension indicate no errors but 101 warnings.
Is that the program the German guy sells?
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bellagio.com%2F
Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
Result: 116 Errors, 90 warning(s)
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fbellagio.com%2Finclude%2Fstyles.cssprofile=css21usermedium=allwarning=1lang=en
CSS errors and warnings as well.
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Re: Creating HTML email messages
Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: JeffM wrote: John Klein wrote: I need a way to create several HTML email messages for transmission by 3rd party email list owners. First, tell them that is the stupid way to do things. Don't you understand, USENET is not the prime thrust any more, and not everyone sticks with the more efficient 6-bit BCD characters either! But egotistical people who think they must thrust their choices on everyone else are still with us. Go get a sharp chisel and fresh tablet and write your blog. Email is a plain text medium. That hasn't been true for decades. HTML is for Web pages. 1) Create the HTML page. 2) Upload the page to a server. 3) Email only the link to the Web page. Feel free. In fact please do. Any time you feel the need to say some egotistical self-righteous thing in I do it this way, so no one else should do it some other way please put it on a web site and post the link so anyone who care can look at it. Outside the obvious drawbacks that it add vast complexity (other applications and servers, more networking) and makes the material available to anyone, it's more likely to cause misunderstanding when no emphasis is used. Not to mention text not being flowed and self-formatting into the reader's choice of width rather the poster's idea. People read email on many devices with many types of display, HTML allows the reader more control over presentation. The days of email over 300 bps dial up stored on 10MB eight inch drives is over. There's simply no reason to stick to text any more, and if you choose to filter, please do it quietly. And I haven't mentioned that many people read on devices where web browsing is either not supported or is extra cost. The world has moved past the time when there was a benefit to saving a few bytes, the cost of inferior communication is now higher than any saving. If you want saving, limit message size and reject messages with excessive quoting. That still has benefit. And so says Bill Davidson whom, I guessing, has ADSL/Cable, so expects EVERYBODY to have it!! (and I can go back to 50baud and 75baud machines and punched tape readers as well!) And Bill if I limit my downloaded messages to only those of 1kByte or less, that still doesn't stop your 1MByte message arriving on my ISP's server for my mail account, so costing me extra because you've exceeded my daily 500kByte mail limit. (Don't worry, Bill, it's not just you, I'm still trying to educate my family members as well!!) Daniel My goodness. My ISP cheapest POTS line allow unlimited access time and a 50mb per email box limit per day. I use a slow SDLS 1 mb. and mail box size it much larger. HTML Mail without attachments and no embedded pictures or music doesn't even come close filling up my boxes. I had one warning recently because my niece sent 20 uncut Digital Camera Pictures in one whack. if she had done maybe ten one day and ten the next would not have been problem. I informed her of the situation. no problems since then. Lucky you, Phillip, but do you live in a bigish city/town or out in the sticks?? Daniel So far in the sticks they have to pipe sunshine periodical. Oh, well! There I go, I have always taken you (and most here) as big city slickers with prime time services! Daniel 1 mb DSL is not prime time service. with Cable modems upwards of 15-20 or more mb per second. Even though mine is Classified as DSL it actual Name is DSL over Copper which is is a code word for the system that predates DSL that was only slightly better than POTS where they took two lines and used I what is called bonded pairs. Its been so long a go I forgot what it was called. But the new euphemism for it is DSL over copper. I pay a heavy price for it. But my ISP provides up to 5 mailboxes unlimited time 50 mb per mailbox, and provides the phone line. If the phone line dies, then its on their nickel and they provide the Modem and Router. And My ISP doesn't provide a news server though I have to subscribe to my own Newsgroups. Sprint who was the carrier at the time deep sixed there USENET Server. The local cable company might be cheaper for one mailbox. but then they charge you 10 bucks rent for Modem and 10 for Router and each mailbox is 5 bucks more so I'd end up about the same price as now. and in our area cable is only marginally better than what I have now. Plus every time there is a big snow storm or a thunderstorm, the cable goes out hours or days at a time. Since I've been with my ISP about 10 years, they been out of service 7 times. 3 times altogether for a day. 4 times where long distance was slowed own because of cuts in phone lines in other parts of the state. But know I am definitely not in a big city. in fact our area Martinsville/Henry county is so economically depressed we have about 22-25% unemployment. About as bad or worse than Appalachia. I could afford
Re: Seamonkey freezing Computer
Robert Kaiser wrote: George Carden wrote: I have a problem with SeaMonkey freezing just itself when downloading RSS Feeds material. Anybody else experience this? You mean point 4 in http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues - right? Robert Kaiser From here, I have no issues with newsgroups at all, only RSS feeds when they update. I'm not sure how that relates? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Moving from 1.1.18 (now default) to 2.0.3 (to become default).
I have now used SeaMonkey 2.0.3 in a learning mode long enough for me to believe that it will meet my personal browser requirements. In fact, the only difficulty I found with 2.0.3 was a problem with the Go button on the mail window (see earlier thread in this group titled Mail Newsgroup Account Settings and Leave Messages on Server Settings for details about that problem). I am now wanting to know the best way to migrate all of my mail, address book, settings, etc. (not sure what else might be included under my profile) from 1.1.18 to 2.0.3. I have set 2.0.3, so that it leaves all messages on the server during this learning period--messages are removed when downloaded to 1.1.18. I have only downloaded a very small number of messages to 2.0.3, since it was installed on my system. Thus, I would like to make sure that 2.0.3 includes all of the messages that are presently on 1.1.18. As with the messages, there have been other changes on 1.1.18 that must be migrated to 2.0.3. Additions have been made to the address book and setting changes have been made. I desire to have 2.0.3 up-to-date on these subjects and any others, that I am not technically knowledgeable about and that should also be migrated. I have only one Profile in 1.1.18 and only one profile in 2.0.3 (it was migrated from 1.1.18 as a part of the installation of 2.0.3 on my system). I need some basic-level instructions on how to update 2.0.3 with 1.1.18 information. Thanks in advance for your help. Windows XP Pro SP3 Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving from 1.1.18 (now default) to 2.0.3 (to become default).
Interviewed by CNN on 26/3/2010 21:23, Frog told the world: I have only one Profile in 1.1.18 and only one profile in 2.0.3 (it was migrated from 1.1.18 as a part of the installation of 2.0.3 on my system). I need some basic-level instructions on how to update 2.0.3 with 1.1.18 information. Well, since you say you only used 2.0.3 for testing, and 1.1.18 has a complete set of your data, my suggestion would be to delete the 2.0.3 profile and re-import the data from you 1.1.18 profile. Steps: 0. Make a backup. 1. Close 2.0.3. 2. Open 1.1.18, go to your e-mail accounts setting and set all of them to delete messages after a few days (this is a precaution against you accidentally opening 1.1.18 in the future). Disable the option to load QuickLaunch on boot. 3. Close 1.1.18. Make sure the QuickLaunch icon near the clock is closed. 4. Open the 2.0.3 Profile Manager -- it's in the Seamonkey folder under the Start Menu. 5. Use the Profile Manager to delete your current (test) profile. 6. Use the Profile Manager to import the profile from your 1.1.18 installation. This SHOULD get everything or near to it from your old Seamonkey. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... BOFH excuse #35: working as designed *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.3 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Anybody gotten Nuke Anything Enhanced to work with SeaMonkey 1.x?
On 3/26/2010 12:35 PM, JeffM wrote: First, the name nuke_anything_enhanced-1.0.2-fx+sm.xpi is a lie--at least, in part. I get an Install script not found error with SM1. I unzipped it and edited **install.rdf** so that minVersion is 1.1. (The addons.mozilla.org/.../firefox page says it works with Firefox 2.0 (Gecko 1.8) or later; the copy of the file available from the addons.mozilla.org/.../seamonkey page is identical and doesn't make any adjustments for the SeaMonkey numbering system while claiming to support SeaMonkey 1.1 or later.) I zipped it back up and still get the error. Anybody tried this? Anybody see something I'm missing? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/951 ...or did my app just screw things up zipping the file? I could be wrong, but I thought that error was because the installer expects the Firefox installation tools, which Seamonkey 1.X doesn't have. I don't believe it's as simple as fixing a version in the installation files. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving from 1.1.18 (now default) to 2.0.3 (to become default).
On 3/26/2010 5:23 PM, Frog wrote: I have now used SeaMonkey 2.0.3 in a learning mode long enough for me to believe that it will meet my personal browser requirements. In fact, the only difficulty I found with 2.0.3 was a problem with the Go button on the mail window (see earlier thread in this group titled Mail Newsgroup Account Settings and Leave Messages on Server Settings for details about that problem). I am now wanting to know the best way to migrate all of my mail, address book, settings, etc. (not sure what else might be included under my profile) from 1.1.18 to 2.0.3. I have set 2.0.3, so that it leaves all messages on the server during this learning period--messages are removed when downloaded to 1.1.18. I have only downloaded a very small number of messages to 2.0.3, since it was installed on my system. Thus, I would like to make sure that 2.0.3 includes all of the messages that are presently on 1.1.18. As with the messages, there have been other changes on 1.1.18 that must be migrated to 2.0.3. Additions have been made to the address book and setting changes have been made. I desire to have 2.0.3 up-to-date on these subjects and any others, that I am not technically knowledgeable about and that should also be migrated. I have only one Profile in 1.1.18 and only one profile in 2.0.3 (it was migrated from 1.1.18 as a part of the installation of 2.0.3 on my system). I need some basic-level instructions on how to update 2.0.3 with 1.1.18 information. Thanks in advance for your help. Windows XP Pro SP3 Frog As long as you've made no changes to your 2.X profile which you can't live without, I think the best approach is to delete the 2.X profile completely (back it up first!) and then when you launch SM 2.X again, it will ask to migrate your settings again. This time, the migration will be the final one (assuming it goes well, of course). As a result, you should go into your SM 1.X settings and tell it to Leave messages on the server, since SM 2.x will become the official place for your e-mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
Phillip Pi wrote:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
This is what I get:
scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
Using:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9)
Gecko/20100317 SeaMonkey/2.0.4
bj
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Subject: Re: Is Anyone else getting an error
Subject:
Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
From:
Richard Lee Holbert rlhinte...@charter.net
Date:
Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:27:47 -0500
To:
Phillip Pi phillip...@symantec.comsymc
Only in Seamonkey All else is fine. IE,Firefox and Safari.
Of course I have been getting XML errors ALOT lately on different web
sites.
Phillip Pi wrote:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
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Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
On 3/26/10 3:40 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/26/10 2:08 PM, Phillip Pi wrote:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
Ususally, that is an indication of a combination of invalid sniffing
plus broken code for handling unrecognized browsers.
However, in this case, I don't see the problem even with the standard
SeaMonkey user agent string:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8)
Gecko/20100205 SeaMonkey/2.0.3
Since Bernard Mercier seems to have also seen your problem shortly after
you posted your message, I wonder if they might have fixed the Web site
already. Do you still see the problem with SeaMonkey 2.0.3?
Just going to the home page shows up fine (first link
http://www.bellagio.com/)
But html validator extension shows as having no errors but 101 warnings.
Hmm! Now, I'm getting the error. But if I spoof Firefox 3.5, I don't
get the error. This is definitely a case of invalid sniffing plus
broken code for handling unrecognized browsers.
I have no idea why I did not see the error before.
--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/
Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Is anyone else getting an error?
Thanks all! I was able to reproduce it on my other machine too.
I reported the Web site via SM's report site feature and sent an e-mail
to hotel with guestservi...@bellagioresort.com. I hope that was the
right place to report the problem. Did you guys report it too? If not,
then it would be great so they know they have an issue. :)
On 3/26/2010 3:08 PM PT, Phillip (aka Ant) typed:
Hello.
http://www.bellagio.com/ showed: XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.bellagio.com/
Line Number 9, Column 27:scriptdocument.write('s'+'cript
language=JavaScript
src=http://switch.atdmt.com/jaction/mgmmgm_BellagioHomepage_1;/s'+'cript')/script
--^
IE8 had no problems. Thank you in advance. :)
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