Reply All - Changing CC to BCC
When doing a 'reply all,' is there an easy way to change the CC to BCC for the recipients, without doing it one at a time? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Phillip Jones wrote: JeffM wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: snip Sniffing should be banned by w3c . But, Phillip, if the people that write these stuffed-up sites were paying attention to w3c, we wouldn't be having this discussion, because the problems wouldn't exist!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
On 6/27/10, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote: Paul wrote: According to the OP on 6-26-10: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx (...) and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line is greyed out. SeaMonkey stores download associations per MIME type. The problem with the download from the address above is that it is delivered with MIME type text/plain. That is, like application/octet-stream, too generic to be stored. You wouldn't want any text file to be opened with the program you choose for this .pptx file, right? The only times I can remember SM asking what to do with a .txt file was when I held down the shift key clicked on the link. And yet SM asked me if I want to open the .pptx file with Open Office or save it.. It doesn't display the file (which it does for *.txt files), nor does it ask if I want to open it with notepad (the registered handler for .txt files) So it seems like there's more going on than mime type sniffing. Dunno if this is related, since FTP doesn't have mime types: ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/ if I click on the link for draft-ietf-avt-jpeg-02.txt SM displays the file. It doesn't ask me what app to use to open the file or if I want to save it. Click on a link to a .Z file and SM asks if I want to open it with 7Zip or save it. Again, sure seems like SM looks at the file extension before deciding what to do with a file The only way how to solve this issue is by fixing the source, i.e. the web server that delivers that file (cacetech.com). The other source that could be fixed is SeaMonkey. As Paul wrote on Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:36 AM : I use old 1117. Edit/prefs/Navigator/helper apps \ new type \ name it something \ then extension pptx. I just tried it and it works for me. That's the way I remember it working. I'd like that behavior back. Even if the new mime type sniffing (or whatever it's called) is technically more correct, the old method is more user friendly You can find out about these issues by either using the Live HTTP Headers extension or using the wget command line tool (available by default on most Linux machines) with the -S parameter. I used wireshark, which was a bit of a pain for checking the downloaded file's mime type. I'll take a look at the extension Thanks, Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reply All - Changing CC to BCC
Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:17:44 -0700 (PDT), /nr/: When doing a 'reply all,' is there an easy way to change the CC to BCC for the recipients, without doing it one at a time? Open the Select Addresses dialog (through the Options menu or the Address toolbar button); Select the Cc: addresses in the right pane (Address messages to:) and press the Bcc- button - the address entries will be re-added as Bcc:. Now press Remove to remove the Cc: entries which should be still selected. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
Jens Hatlak wrote: Paul wrote: According to the OP on 6-26-10: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx (...) and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line is greyed out. SeaMonkey stores download associations per MIME type. The problem with the download from the address above is that it is delivered with MIME type text/plain. That is, like application/octet-stream, too generic to be stored. You wouldn't want any text file to be opened with the program you choose for this .pptx file, right? The only way how to solve this issue is by fixing the source, i.e. the web server that delivers that file (cacetech.com). You can find out about these issues by either using the Live HTTP Headers extension or using the wget command line tool (available by default on most Linux machines) with the -S parameter. HTH Jens Jens, if I go to Edit-Preferences-Browser-Helper Applications in SM 2.1a2, I get a listing of various Content Types and the actions to occur for those Types. For example, for Windows Media video I have it set to Always ask and have other options in a drop down list. Additionally, near the top is a line which reads Search Types and Actions. I'm guessing (emphasis guessing I could enter pptx in there and select what helper should be evoked. Is this wrong??(Yes, I know I could try, but I don't have a .pptx file!) Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
On 6/27/2010 9:45 PM PT, David E. Ross typed: See myhttp://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html. Also see http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Browser_Detection_and_Cross_Browser_Support. Thanks. I will keep these links to share to Web site's people who need to fix SeaMonkey issues. Actually, the first of those links should be of interest primarily to browser users. For those who supervise internal Web developers or contract with external Web developers, another link is http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#sniff. Thanks! :) -- Since the world began, we have never exterminated. We probably shall never exterminate as much as one single insect species. If there was ever an example of an insect we cannot destroy, the fire ant is it. --an entomologist quote mentioned by Leonard Nimoy on In The Search Of: Deadly Ants (1978) /\___/\ Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Writing web sites that work on SeaMonkey
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/27/10 1:20 PM, DoctorBill wrote: I actually have a Web Master who responded that says he will work on trying to get his site to work better with SeaMonkey ! www.brassjunkies.com Can someone give me a link that explains how he would do that so that I can pass it on to him? DoctorBill Tell him to visit, read, and understand the following links: http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/index.html, oriented to Web developers http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html, oriented to those who hire or contract with Web developers I passed all these links that all of you have given to me along to the web master of Brassjunkies.com. He agrees - he needs to get a new web writer... Thanks to all of you ! DoctorBill -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic 2.0.5 version
Daniel schrieb: Robert, if I wanted to get bitchy I'd type something like Well!! If that's the case, why do you have those options available?? If it was up to me, we probably wouldn't have them in a graphical UI. Your response has prompted me to re-read and think about the selections on that page of the preferences, so now I have deselected Allow websites.. and that has grey-ed out the Installed Add-ons selection of Updates, however it looks as though SM will keep checking weekly (because that's what *I've* selected) and then automatically applying those program updates that it has downloaded. If you make installation of any add-ons impossible, then surely we don't update them and also don't offer to. That is different from SeaMonkey updates, though. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message flags
View dropdown Customize New Status is Flagged. To clarify this since it's easy to confuse with the menu View option; At the top left of the message header pane, look for View and pull it down... clicking the tag you want to filter to should meet your need. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Bruce Ford Rejection
Mr. Ford, Your request for membership in the 78th ASA SOU Berlin group was presented to this group's current membership as a whole for discussion and vote. Polling the members following extensive discussion of your stated positions and policies resulted in a tally that your request for membership. Any message you would like to submit that is relevant to the ASA and our members will be considered for posting the group at any time. Simply submit any posting request to 78thasa-ow...@yahoogroups.com Beverly Howard (group founder/owner) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Apologies... wrong destination
My apologies for the Bruce... post... totally by error... was trying to move a message draft to a reference folder and not sure how it happened. I Canceled the message, but have no idea if it is still visible. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
*sigh* Edit / Prefs / Browser / Helper apps and no button for new type in SM 2.0.5 Are there any choose options when the attachment is clicked in the email? I've found that while the prefs option works in 1.x, it's much easier to create a new helper entry by using the choose function since all you have to do is provide the app's exe path. Related to that, with most apps (I assume powerpoint 2007 won't allow this) open the properties of any shortcut used to start the program you want to use, then copy and paste the exe's into seamonkey's choose file dialog... quick and easy. Hope that this information is of value. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Time Machine questions
I find a need to access a lot of missing emails from a few months back. I regularly bsck up my HD from my iMac to an external Maxtor drive, using SuperDuper! and Time Machine. A disclaimer... I'm not a mac person. Depending on your tech skills level, it may be helpful to know that Seamonkey's messages are stored in plain text files including their headers. As a result, a good text editor with a search function that allows searching multiple files and folders can quickly find strings that seem to be taking a long time for your current tools, plus allow you to instantly read the message itself. Not sure how the message files are named on the mac, but in windows, the files containing the messages don't have name extensions, so, searching the mail folder using the file wildcard *. will hit only the files containing messages. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic 2.0.5 version
On 6/27/10 4:31 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Seems something is wrong here! Yes, not letting it check daily and automatically apply security updates is wrong, as it compromises your security. Robert Kaiser Some software (Windows XP included) offer the option to check for updates and notify me without downloading or installing the updates. That's what I want. I want to control when I actually update because my background in configuration management means that I log the changes -- files and Windows registry -- to my configuration. It means that I record the new version in my configuration summary. It also means that I update the list of spoofing UAs in my PrefBar installation when I get a new version of SeaMonkey. Etc, etc. For all this, it means that I want to stop doing anything else before I update and that I disable my Internet connection after the download but before the update (which is why I submitted bug #340330). -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
comparing folders, sorting folders, merging folders
Now that I've recovered missing email from a folder (causes unknown, but I suspect a failed network file transfer was either not reported as an error or not noticed), I have a folder that I think has everything in it, but since I was careful to avoid adding ranges that seemed to be intact, there is the possibility of missing something. I didn't want to simply copy the entire contents of backups to a single file, because I assume I would get duplicates of almost everything (I assume SeaMonkey does nothing to detect or avoid duplicate messages). So now I'd like to know Is there anything in Folder A that is not also in Folder B? How do I do that? Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
On 6/28/10, Beverly Howard b...@bevhoward.com wrote: *sigh* Edit / Prefs / Browser / Helper apps and no button for new type in SM 2.0.5 Are there any choose options when the attachment is clicked in the email? This isn't email - I'm using the browser portion of SM. From the original post: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx Go to http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/ and try downloading the various files. All work except for the '.pptx' ones which pop up a dialog box asking me if I want to open them with OpenOffice or save them to disk. The problem is that the always do this option is greyed out, so SM always pops up the same what do you want to do with this file? dialog. What I'd like is for SeaMonkey to never ask me again - just save anything ending with .pptx to disk. I've found that while the prefs option works in 1.x, it's much easier to create a new helper entry by using the choose function since all you have to do is provide the app's exe path. The choose function is new to me - how does one invoke it? And is it possible for my choice to be 'always save the file to disk'? Thanks, Lee Related to that, with most apps (I assume powerpoint 2007 won't allow this) open the properties of any shortcut used to start the program you want to use, then copy and paste the exe's into seamonkey's choose file dialog... quick and easy. Hope that this information is of value. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Ant wrote: -- Since the world began, we have never exterminated. We probably shall never exterminate as much as one single insect species. If there was ever an example of an insect we cannot destroy, the fire ant is it. --an entomologist quote mentioned by Leon Insects are notoriously resistant to responding to census surveys! They may be experiencing mass exterminations without detection: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/0920_050920_extinct_insects.html or http://preview.tinyurl.com/293dl6m ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: JeffM wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: snip Sniffing should be banned by w3c . But, Phillip, if the people that write these stuffed-up sites were paying attention to w3c, we wouldn't be having this discussion, because the problems wouldn't exist!! Daniel Wish there were a blacklist for sites that had more than, say, 50 errors? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Try this
Mark Hansen wrote: On 6/23/2010 7:08 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Since you started a new thread with a new subject and didn't quote any of the previous message, how is anyone supposed to know who this is for? Which of the other 52,708 messages in this group is/are relevant? Sheesh, I could tell what he was talking about. You couldn't? :-\ I could tell what he said. I couldn't tell who he said it to, or in what way the previous poster was correct about SeaMonkey. I couldn't tell what else had been tried, and what had worked or not worked. I couldn't read the original question. I couldn't tell how this clarifies the previous post since I couldn't read the previous post. Reminds me of a note I got from a colleague last week, wherein he top-posted the following reply to my message containing several questions: Nope. That kind of cooperation generally gets what it deserves. I like a good puzzle as much as the next man, but I don't have time for that one. Back to work. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Rick Merrill wrote: Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: JeffM wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: snip Sniffing should be banned by w3c . But, Phillip, if the people that write these stuffed-up sites were paying attention to w3c, we wouldn't be having this discussion, because the problems wouldn't exist!! Daniel Wish there were a blacklist for sites that had more than, say, 50 errors? Now that sounds good. either that or SM and FireFox is going to have to implement an IE style Self-healing process. The Mozilla community has been dying for ages to emulate IE any way. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
DoctorBill wrote: I went to Image Control - Photobucket said allow images. The cleared all cookies with PrefBar Button - THEN Photobucket loaded ! WHAT was THAT all about ! How can some obscure Cookie block a site from loading !? How would it (Them?) have gotten there ? Lesson learned ! This has gone on for MONTHS and I didn't know it was COOKIES. Damn ! Thanks gentlemen ! Why would you have cookies that survive for months? Set SM to purge all cookies on shutdown (accept cookies for current session only), and you'll start every session fresh. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Paul wrote: According to the OP on 6-26-10: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx (...) and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line is greyed out. SeaMonkey stores download associations per MIME type. The problem with the download from the address above is that it is delivered with MIME type text/plain. That is, like application/octet-stream, too generic to be stored. You wouldn't want any text file to be opened with the program you choose for this .pptx file, right? The only way how to solve this issue is by fixing the source, i.e. the web server that delivers that file (cacetech.com). You can find out about these issues by either using the Live HTTP Headers extension or using the wget command line tool (available by default on most Linux machines) with the -S parameter. HTH Jens Jens, if I go to Edit-Preferences-Browser-Helper Applications in SM 2.1a2, I get a listing of various Content Types and the actions to occur for those Types. For example, for Windows Media video I have it set to Always ask and have other options in a drop down list. Additionally, near the top is a line which reads Search Types and Actions. I'm guessing (emphasis guessing I could enter pptx in there and select what helper should be evoked. Is this wrong?? Yes, that is wrong. (Yes, I know I could try, but I don't have a .pptx file!) http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net After eating, do amphibians have to wait one hour before getting out of the water? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
uh-oh, Terminate Stay Resident?
how to get the flawed ui* design Seamonkey 2 series to completely shut down when all windows closed? this staying active for 48 hours checking mail / newsgroups is a serious bug. I should NOT have to reboot the os to shut the suite down. * message bars renders the Seamonkey 2 series unusable anyway. The website conten jumps around enough with the delayed display of remote content ( AJAX ) and the javascripted layouts ( jquery ) there is no acceptable excuse for the browser to contribute to this with MESSAGE BARS. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read
Rick Merrill wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem. When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. On the other hand this only happens if you do it manually. When a filter moves something to the trash the 'unread' status sticks. Since filters can move messages to the Trash folder, but don't have any other explicit Delete operation, and in SeaMonkey 1.1 deleting a message (from anything folder other than the Trash folder) just moves it to the Trash folder, deleting is the same as moving to the Trash folder (in SeaMonkey 1.1). Why break that correspondence? SeaMonkey 2 filters don't differentiate between between deleting and moving to Trash, do they? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read
Daniel Barclay wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem. When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. On the other hand this only happens if you do it manually. When a filter moves something to the trash the 'unread' status sticks. Since filters can move messages to the Trash folder, but don't have any other explicit Delete operation, and in SeaMonkey 1.1 deleting a message (from anything folder other than the Trash folder) just moves it to the Trash folder, deleting is the same as moving to the Trash folder (in SeaMonkey 1.1). Why break that correspondence? SeaMonkey 2 filters don't differentiate between between deleting and moving to Trash, do they? Daniel You are correct SM 2 filters do not differentiate between deleting and moving to Trash. However, that is not the subject of this discussion. The discussion is centered on what happens when you manually delete a message. In SM2, deleting an unread message moves it to trash and classifies it as unread. However, in SM2, moving an unread message to Trash changes the status to read. It should leave the status as unread just as moving (or using a filter) does. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465116 for a proposed fix for this problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read
Daniel Barclay wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem. When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. On the other hand this only happens if you do it manually. When a filter moves something to the trash the 'unread' status sticks. Since filters can move messages to the Trash folder, but don't have any other explicit Delete operation, and in SeaMonkey 1.1 deleting a message (from anything folder other than the Trash folder) just moves it to the Trash folder, deleting is the same as moving to the Trash folder (in SeaMonkey 1.1). Why break that correspondence? SeaMonkey 2 filters don't differentiate between between deleting and moving to Trash, do they? Daniel Sorry: my last sentence should have read: However, in SM2, deleting an unread message moves it to Trash AND changes the status to read. It should leave the status as unread just as moving (or using a filter) does. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465116 for a proposed fix for this problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Phillip Jones wrote:.. either that or SM and FireFox is going to have to implement an IE style Self-healing process. The Mozilla community has been dying for ages to emulate IE any way. What is a browser self-healing process?? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/28/10 10:59 AM, Rick Merrill wrote: Daniel wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: JeffM wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: snip Sniffing should be banned by w3c . But, Phillip, if the people that write these stuffed-up sites were paying attention to w3c, we wouldn't be having this discussion, because the problems wouldn't exist!! Daniel Wish there were a blacklist for sites that had more than, say, 50 errors? I do have a list of Web developer firms, showing how many HTML/XHTML and CSS errors they have on their own Web sites. It's at http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html. Good, but can you list the top 10 HALL OF SHAME? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Workstations Accessing e-mail folder...
Is it possible for multiple workstations to access the same e-mail storage folder, **at the same time?** I have tried in the past but end up corrupting the storage folder ( it seems like it want to actively process that folder the same time as another is connected to it, creates true confusion in the software) is this just a pipe dream? thank you ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Why would you have cookies that survive for months? I have some cookies for years. Why? So I don't have to go through the login process every time I go to those sites. Set SM to purge all cookies on shutdown (accept cookies for current session only), and you'll start every session fresh. ..and re-login... ;-) -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Workstations Accessing e-mail folder...
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:51:56 -0700 From: Eggar doug...@broadcastdesign.com Subject: Workstations Accessing e-mail folder... To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Is it possible for multiple workstations to access the same e-mail storage folder, **at the same time?** I have tried in the past but end up corrupting the storage folder ( it seems like it want to actively process that folder the same time as another is connected to it, creates true confusion in the software) is this just a pipe dream? Pipe dream. - Gregory Hicks | Principal Systems Engineer | Direct: 408.569.7928 People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf -- George Orwell The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. -- Thomas Jefferson The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed. --Alexander Hamilton ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Why would you have cookies that survive for months? I have some cookies for years. Why? So I don't have to go through the login process every time I go to those sites. Set SM to purge all cookies on shutdown (accept cookies for current session only), and you'll start every session fresh. ..and re-login... ;-) Amen, brother ! I get on 3 or 4 Forums and it is nice to get on w/o logging in for no good reason. Also with hosting sites, etc. Just not the Bank or Stock Broker ! DoctorBill -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Why would you have cookies that survive for months? I have some cookies for years. Why? So I don't have to go through the login process every time I go to those sites. Set SM to purge all cookies on shutdown (accept cookies for current session only), and you'll start every session fresh. ..and re-login... ;-) and re login. ;-) -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Workstations Accessing e-mail folder...
but end up corrupting the storage folder Yep... the profile data is not multiuser. I've experimented with this using two workstations even while assuring that only one of the two workstations had seamonkey running at any given time and that also had serious problems. due, I assume, to at least some index or other profile information being held locally... looked like seamonkey rebuilt the entire index structure each time the workstation was switched. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read
Phillip Jones wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: Daniel Barclay wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem. When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. On the other hand this only happens if you do it manually. When a filter moves something to the trash the 'unread' status sticks. Since filters can move messages to the Trash folder, but don't have any other explicit Delete operation, and in SeaMonkey 1.1 deleting a message (from anything folder other than the Trash folder) just moves it to the Trash folder, deleting is the same as moving to the Trash folder (in SeaMonkey 1.1). Why break that correspondence? SeaMonkey 2 filters don't differentiate between between deleting and moving to Trash, do they? Daniel You are correct SM 2 filters do not differentiate between deleting and moving to Trash. However, that is not the subject of this discussion. The discussion is centered on what happens when you manually delete a message. In SM2, deleting an unread message moves it to trash and classifies it as unread. However, in SM2, moving an unread message to Trash changes the status to read. It should leave the status as unread just as moving (or using a filter) does. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465116 for a proposed fix for this problem. If your work in Three pane Mode http://screencast.com/t/ZDA2ZTUwO the click the devider between the Subjects (header) and content (preview) so you see similar to this. http://screencast.com/t/MjU0MjZiY anything you drag to to trash or or click on delete button they will remain unread (http://screencast.com/t/MjNjNjE1N). as long as they remain unread they will remain unread even in trash. If you have set any other way so you view the contents the it is a read message. SM doesn't work any diffiferent than Communicator did in this respect. I work in Three pane Mode - but deleting an unread message put it in the trash as readed. Your examples show us news messages, not mail messages. We have the problem with mail messages. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Phillip Jones wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Phillip Jones wrote:.. either that or SM and FireFox is going to have to implement an IE style Self-healing process. The Mozilla community has been dying for ages to emulate IE any way. What is a browser self-healing process?? In IE they have code that allow IE to guess at missing tags in html code. suppose you you have a line you forget the opening closing tag lets give as example head /head say you leave off by accident the head but it finds the /head Ie will assume where the beginning of the line should be and supply it. it will over look spellings. In other words you can either a careless coder, a 5 year old, child, or a Monkey to design a website. As long as some semblance of correct code can be found IE will supply the missing information. That way. it doesn't make any difference how the code is written or has obivous errors IE over look the error. Where the proper way should be if so mus as a missing , / [, } missing the site should bomb is should show anything. And won't show anything until every period space, characters are in the proper place. They tell me that br is actually such a code that is honored by all browsers but they say it should be /br. That self-healing is a classic case of why jam 'standards' down the user if we can save them from the s/w developer's errors. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Workstations Accessing e-mail folder...
Beverly Howard wrote: ... looked like seamonkey rebuilt the entire index structure each time the workstation was switched Or some event that triggers the indexing to start. Yep I'm sure your right on the money with that. I'll have to experiment with having 'fetch message headers only' and leaving messages on server (either or both) and find a happy mixture to see if multi-access is possible. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reply All - Changing CC to BCC
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:17:44 -0700 (PDT), /nr/: When doing a 'reply all,' is there an easy way to change the CC to BCC for the recipients, without doing it one at a time? Open the Select Addresses dialog (through the Options menu or the Address toolbar button); Select the Cc: addresses in the right pane (Address messages to:) and press the Bcc- button - the address entries will be re-added as Bcc:. Now press Remove to remove the Cc: entries which should be still selected. I am unable to do it. I select all the CC adresses in the right pane, and when i click on BCC button, an adress from the left pane is added as BCC in the right pane. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reply All - Changing CC to BCC
Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:10:44 +0200, /Ray_Net/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:17:44 -0700 (PDT), /nr/: When doing a 'reply all,' is there an easy way to change the CC to BCC for the recipients, without doing it one at a time? Open the Select Addresses dialog (through the Options menu or the Address toolbar button); Select the Cc: addresses in the right pane (Address messages to:) and press the Bcc- button - the address entries will be re-added as Bcc:. Now press Remove to remove the Cc: entries which should be still selected. I am unable to do it. I select all the CC adresses in the right pane, and when i click on BCC button, an adress from the left pane is added as BCC in the right pane. Yes, seems I've overlooked it. Seems I had the test addresses initially added as CC selected on the left side which made them added as BCC when I had pressed the button. So the best one can do is to select the needed addresses from the left pane and add them using the BCC button. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
In mozilla.support.seamonkey, Rick Merrill wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: ... As long as some semblance of correct code can be found IE will supply the missing information. That way. it doesn't make any difference how the code is written or has obivous errors IE over look the error. So will every other browser. What you didn't mention is that all browsers are required to display valid code correctly, but they are all free to interpret errors however they see fit -- which is why different browsers display pages differently. There is no standard for rendering errors. They tell me that br is actually such a code that is honored by all browsers but they say it should be /br. They say it should be br for HTML, and br / [note space] for XHTML. There is no /br anywhere -- except as an error. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
DoctorBill wrote: Just not the Bank or Stock Broker ! Amen, brother ! -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
Phillip Jones wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Phillip Jones wrote:.. either that or SM and FireFox is going to have to implement an IE style Self-healing process. The Mozilla community has been dying for ages to emulate IE any way. What is a browser self-healing process?? In IE they have code that allow IE to guess at missing tags in html code. suppose you you have a line you forget the opening closing tag lets give as example head /head say you leave off by accident the head but it finds the /head Ie will assume where the beginning of the line should be and supply it. it will over look spellings. In other words you can either a careless coder, a 5 year old, child, or a Monkey to design a website. As long as some semblance of correct code can be found IE will supply the missing information. That way. it doesn't make any difference how the code is written or has obivous errors IE over look the error. Where the proper way should be if so mus as a missing , / [, } missing the site should bomb is should show anything. And won't show anything until every period space, characters are in the proper place. tidy.exe available from W3C is a small executable that will fix some small errors in CSS, HTML, and XHTML. And tell you about errors it can't fix and warn you of possible problems. http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Death with dignity is better than life with humiliation. -Husayn ibn Ali (626-680) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read
Phillip Jones wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: Daniel Barclay wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem. When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. On the other hand this only happens if you do it manually. When a filter moves something to the trash the 'unread' status sticks. Since filters can move messages to the Trash folder, but don't have any other explicit Delete operation, and in SeaMonkey 1.1 deleting a message (from anything folder other than the Trash folder) just moves it to the Trash folder, deleting is the same as moving to the Trash folder (in SeaMonkey 1.1). Why break that correspondence? SeaMonkey 2 filters don't differentiate between between deleting and moving to Trash, do they? Daniel You are correct SM 2 filters do not differentiate between deleting and moving to Trash. However, that is not the subject of this discussion. The discussion is centered on what happens when you manually delete a message. In SM2, deleting an unread message moves it to trash and classifies it as unread. However, in SM2, moving an unread message to Trash changes the status to read. It should leave the status as unread just as moving (or using a filter) does. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465116 for a proposed fix for this problem. If your work in Three pane Mode http://screencast.com/t/ZDA2ZTUwO the click the devider between the Subjects (header) and content (preview) so you see similar to this. http://screencast.com/t/MjU0MjZiY anything you drag to to trash or or click on delete button they will remain unread (http://screencast.com/t/MjNjNjE1N). as long as they remain unread they will remain unread even in trash. If you have set any other way so you view the contents the it is a read message. SM doesn't work any diffiferent than Communicator did in this respect. I set it up exactly as your screenshots show and it still sends an unread message to Trash as read after I click on the Delete icon that you show in your screen shot. Don't know what to say. I'm using SM 2.05 and your approach does not work for me. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read
Ray_Net wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: Daniel Barclay wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem. When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. On the other hand this only happens if you do it manually. When a filter moves something to the trash the 'unread' status sticks. Since filters can move messages to the Trash folder, but don't have any other explicit Delete operation, and in SeaMonkey 1.1 deleting a message (from anything folder other than the Trash folder) just moves it to the Trash folder, deleting is the same as moving to the Trash folder (in SeaMonkey 1.1). Why break that correspondence? SeaMonkey 2 filters don't differentiate between between deleting and moving to Trash, do they? Daniel You are correct SM 2 filters do not differentiate between deleting and moving to Trash. However, that is not the subject of this discussion. The discussion is centered on what happens when you manually delete a message. In SM2, deleting an unread message moves it to trash and classifies it as unread. However, in SM2, moving an unread message to Trash changes the status to read. It should leave the status as unread just as moving (or using a filter) does. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465116 for a proposed fix for this problem. If your work in Three pane Mode http://screencast.com/t/ZDA2ZTUwO the click the devider between the Subjects (header) and content (preview) so you see similar to this. http://screencast.com/t/MjU0MjZiY anything you drag to to trash or or click on delete button they will remain unread (http://screencast.com/t/MjNjNjE1N). as long as they remain unread they will remain unread even in trash. If you have set any other way so you view the contents the it is a read message. SM doesn't work any diffiferent than Communicator did in this respect. I work in Three pane Mode - but deleting an unread message put it in the trash as readed. Your examples show us news messages, not mail messages. We have the problem with mail messages. Its similar with Mail Messages I just happened to use the news groups to show the three pane mode you can't delete messages in news anyway. here is examples using mail instead. switch to this mode first. http://screencast.com/t/YWRmODMxMjUt http://screencast.com/t/ZmNlMmJkNzg click on on read item once. either drag to trash or use file menu to move to trash. http://screencast.com/t/ZWQyZGVi the last shows the item which was unread after it was moved to Trash without opening -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read
Arnie Goetchius wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: Daniel Barclay wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem. When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. On the other hand this only happens if you do it manually. When a filter moves something to the trash the 'unread' status sticks. Since filters can move messages to the Trash folder, but don't have any other explicit Delete operation, and in SeaMonkey 1.1 deleting a message (from anything folder other than the Trash folder) just moves it to the Trash folder, deleting is the same as moving to the Trash folder (in SeaMonkey 1.1). Why break that correspondence? SeaMonkey 2 filters don't differentiate between between deleting and moving to Trash, do they? Daniel You are correct SM 2 filters do not differentiate between deleting and moving to Trash. However, that is not the subject of this discussion. The discussion is centered on what happens when you manually delete a message. In SM2, deleting an unread message moves it to trash and classifies it as unread. However, in SM2, moving an unread message to Trash changes the status to read. It should leave the status as unread just as moving (or using a filter) does. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465116 for a proposed fix for this problem. If your work in Three pane Mode http://screencast.com/t/ZDA2ZTUwO the click the devider between the Subjects (header) and content (preview) so you see similar to this. http://screencast.com/t/MjU0MjZiY anything you drag to to trash or or click on delete button they will remain unread (http://screencast.com/t/MjNjNjE1N). as long as they remain unread they will remain unread even in trash. If you have set any other way so you view the contents the it is a read message. SM doesn't work any diffiferent than Communicator did in this respect. I set it up exactly as your screenshots show and it still sends an unread message to Trash as read after I click on the Delete icon that you show in your screen shot. Don't know what to say. I'm using SM 2.05 and your approach does not work for me. Try turning item off shown with arrow drawn to it and see what happens. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an official Mozilla SeaMonkey guide for web developers who misuse User Agents?
W3BNR wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Phillip Jones wrote:.. either that or SM and FireFox is going to have to implement an IE style Self-healing process. The Mozilla community has been dying for ages to emulate IE any way. What is a browser self-healing process?? In IE they have code that allow IE to guess at missing tags in html code. suppose you you have a line you forget the opening closing tag lets give as examplehead /head say you leave off by accident thehead but it finds the/head Ie will assume where the beginning of the line should be and supply it. it will over look spellings. In other words you can either a careless coder, a 5 year old, child, or a Monkey to design a website. As long as some semblance of correct code can be found IE will supply the missing information. That way. it doesn't make any difference how the code is written or has obivous errors IE over look the error. Where the proper way should be if so mus as a missing, / [, } missing the site should bomb is should show anything. And won't show anything until every period space, characters are in the proper place. tidy.exe available from W3C is a small executable that will fix some small errors in CSS, HTML, and XHTML. And tell you about errors it can't fix and warn you of possible problems. http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ Yes I have the tidy extension. both in SM and FF. That's how I know my own ISP site has some errors. most due to missing alt information. even my own site has three errors on the entire site. 1 due to having a small flash slide show, which I have a button to click to start. two as a result of adding audio file with a Player that you can choose to start your self rather than auto play. one I used embed. the other I used object tag. both errors are because. of the not allowing auto Play. I hate, hate, hate, websites that have music that starts playing by the time it loads. I prefer to have a console where you click to start. That way if you want to listen to it fine if not fine. I'd love for the standards to allow for audio console but currently not. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Slow SM 2.x News Groups
XP/SP3, all updates; SM 1.1.19/2.0.0/2.0.4, no add-ons apart from standard plugins. Compared to SM 1.x, SM 2.x news groups handling is very slow. It seems to be related to anti-virus? When MS Security Essentials is installed, Task Manager shows SM 2.x and MSSE alternately ramping up to 100% CPU (while the other ramps down) even when all SM is doing is re-checking for new messages and even when there ARE no new messages. For the news.mozilla.org server (others are similar), this process takes (typically) 90 seconds (sometimes several minutes) to check 14 groups. With MSSE uninstalled (replaced by Avira), the process takes around 45 seconds. With SM 1.x, the process takes from 0.1 to 5 seconds, with no observable AV interaction. Do others see this kind of behaviour? Am I doing something wrong? Is there anything I can do to change this? Is this a known problem that may get fixed in future SM updates? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Photobucket
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/28/10 11:25 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: DoctorBill wrote: I went to Image Control - Photobucket said allow images. The cleared all cookies with PrefBar Button - THEN Photobucket loaded ! WHAT was THAT all about ! How can some obscure Cookie block a site from loading !? How would it (Them?) have gotten there ? Lesson learned ! This has gone on for MONTHS and I didn't know it was COOKIES. Damn ! Thanks gentlemen ! Why would you have cookies that survive for months? Set SM to purge all cookies on shutdown (accept cookies for current session only), and you'll start every session fresh. I went through some work to make Bugzilla at buzilla.mozilla.org display the result of a query exactly the way I want it. That display is controlled by cookies. There are other instances where my preferred setup of a Web tool is captured as cookies. There is no way that I would want to purge all my cookies at the end of a session. Instead, I used the Cookie Manager to edit my saved cookies, deleting the ones I don't need. Then I copied cookies.sqlite to a new file named cookies.sqlite-backup. Finally, I created a script that I run before I launch SeaMonkey. The script deletes cookies.sqlite and then makes a new copy of cookies.sqlite-backup named cookies.sqlite. This eliminates all unwanted persistent cookies while keeping all the wanted ones. In the case of Bugzilla, it also restores those persistent cookies that might get altered if I make a temporary change to the display of a query. See bugs #275381, #275713, and #275716. That is what my BAT file does. Dumps the cookies that are there and replaces them with a set of backup cookies. If I want to change the cookies, I do whatever on the web, then save the current cookies to the backup file. That way all my desired cookies are there and any crap is gone. I must have gotten a 'bad cookie' in the backup file w/o knowing it. DoctorBill -- Gun control is like trying to eliminate drunk driving by not allowing sober people to own cars. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
On 06/27/2010 10:57 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Paul wrote: According to the OP on 6-26-10: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx (...) and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line is greyed out. SeaMonkey stores download associations per MIME type. The problem with the download from the address above is that it is delivered with MIME type text/plain. That is, like application/octet-stream, too generic to be stored. You wouldn't want any text file to be opened with the program you choose for this .pptx file, right? Even though the server is presenting as text/plain: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:31:35 GMT Server: Apache Vary: * Cache-Control: max-age=86400 Expires: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:31:35 GMT Last-Modified: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:16:45 GMT Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 510046 Connection: close Content-Type: text/plain SeaMonkey should/will pick up the mime type if the file extention type has been previously identified on the system (see below). The only way how to solve this issue is by fixing the source, i.e. the web server that delivers that file (cacetech.com). I disagree, see below. You can find out about these issues by either using the Live HTTP Headers extension or using the wget command line tool (available by default on most Linux machines) with the -S parameter. Actually it's an Microsoft Office 2007 openxml powerpoint format (as Phillip pointed out). Also see: http://filext.com/file-extension/PPTX On linux SeaMonkey (and Firefox) use /etc/mime.types: about:config helpers.global_mime_types_file;/etc/mime.types When I click on that url, I am offered the option of opening with OpenOffice.org (my default), Saving, and Do this automatically My /etc/mime.types shows: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation pptx In Win7 SeaMonkey also uses the default system mime type. Where they are located on Win 7/Vista I do not know as I only boot into Windows for testing purposes. If I click on the url I am presented with the option to use 'Microsoft Open XML Converter (default)'. If I change the system default to use OpenOffice.org, I am then presented with that instead of the MS converter. In this instance, I am also offered to Open, Save, Do this automatically... Same as if I click on the url in FireFox 3.6.4. In the OP's case, I suspect that the problem is that he doesn't have .pptx file extension defined in his system. Note: all above are w/SM 2.0.5. Both linux Win7 open the file w/o issue, and both offer the option to 'Do this automatically...'. Also tested on Win2KPro SM 2.0.4 (offers to open, and does, in OpenOffice.org (my defaults). However in this case, SM greys out 'Do this automatically...', probably because Win2KPro has no MSO for pptx and doesn't understand pptx w/OOo. So to see if 2.0.5 makes a difference, I'll upgrade test. Oh wait... I see that SeaMonkey isn't giving me a choice and is instead downloading 2.0.5 all by itself (this *really* needs to change as default). Nope, no change; SM still has 'Do this automatically...' greyed out. And, going to Edit|Preferences|Browser|Helper Applications shows no entries for microsoft, powerpoint, openoffice, ppt, etc. mimetype.rdf shows no related entries either. Question for Lee: What happens when you save the .pptx file and then open via Windows Explorer? What is the default application that opens the file for you? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Automatic 2.0.5 version
On 06/28/2010 09:58 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 6/27/10 4:31 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Seems something is wrong here! Yes, not letting it check daily and automatically apply security updates is wrong, as it compromises your security. Robert Kaiser Some software (Windows XP included) offer the option to check for updates and notify me without downloading or installing the updates. That's what I want. I want to control when I actually update because my background in configuration management means that I log the changes -- files and Windows registry -- to my configuration. It means that I record the new version in my configuration summary. It also means that I update the list of spoofing UAs in my PrefBar installation when I get a new version of SeaMonkey. Etc, etc. For all this, it means that I want to stop doing anything else before I update and that I disable my Internet connection after the download but before the update (which is why I submitted bug #340330). +1 This is also a security issue; the opposite of what Robert suggests. The default of automatically downloading a SM update (2.0.4 to 2.0.5 for example) without the user first authorizing the download is plain wrong. I suspect that the update url's, app.update.url etc strings could easily be changed by a trojan etc. app.update.url. We of course _trust_ that the auto update urls are secure and working, but the possibility still exists that these actions could be redirected to a trojan update.xml Then of course, what if you are purposely keeping the rev at a particular version (testing, problems with the updated version etc)? Or worse yet, if the update that you hadn't planned on installing fails? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Software_Update ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to automatically save files?
On 6/29/10, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: On 06/27/2010 10:57 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Paul wrote: According to the OP on 6-26-10: SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain file types - the latest example being http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx (...) and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line is greyed out. SeaMonkey stores download associations per MIME type. The problem with the download from the address above is that it is delivered with MIME type text/plain. That is, like application/octet-stream, too generic to be stored. You wouldn't want any text file to be opened with the program you choose for this .pptx file, right? Even though the server is presenting as text/plain: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:31:35 GMT Server: Apache Vary: * Cache-Control: max-age=86400 Expires: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:31:35 GMT Last-Modified: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:16:45 GMT Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 510046 Connection: close Content-Type: text/plain SeaMonkey should/will pick up the mime type if the file extention type has been previously identified on the system (see below). So what you're saying is that if I can figure out the proper way to get .pptx files associated? pointing to? the correct mime type then SeaMonkey will allow me to 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' - correct? = late edit== answering my own q: correct. The only way how to solve this issue is by fixing the source, i.e. the web server that delivers that file (cacetech.com). I disagree, see below. You can find out about these issues by either using the Live HTTP Headers extension or using the wget command line tool (available by default on most Linux machines) with the -S parameter. Actually it's an Microsoft Office 2007 openxml powerpoint format (as Phillip pointed out). Also see: http://filext.com/file-extension/PPTX On linux SeaMonkey (and Firefox) use /etc/mime.types: about:config helpers.global_mime_types_file;/etc/mime.types When I click on that url, I am offered the option of opening with OpenOffice.org (my default), Saving, and Do this automatically My /etc/mime.types shows: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation pptx In Win7 SeaMonkey also uses the default system mime type. Where they are located on Win 7/Vista I do not know as I only boot into Windows for testing purposes. I'm guessing HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type If I click on the url I am presented with the option to use 'Microsoft Open XML Converter (default)'. If I change the system default to use OpenOffice.org, I am then presented with that instead of the MS converter. In this instance, I am also offered to Open, Save, Do this automatically... Same as if I click on the url in FireFox 3.6.4. In the OP's case, I suspect that the problem is that he doesn't have .pptx file extension defined in his system. It's defined enough so that double-clicking a .pptx file in explorer automatically launches Open Office to load the file. Note: all above are w/SM 2.0.5. Both linux Win7 open the file w/o issue, and both offer the option to 'Do this automatically...'. Also tested on Win2KPro SM 2.0.4 (offers to open, and does, in OpenOffice.org (my defaults). However in this case, SM greys out 'Do this automatically...', probably because Win2KPro has no MSO for pptx MSO = what? and doesn't understand pptx w/OOo. So to see if 2.0.5 makes a difference, I'll upgrade test. Oh wait... I see that SeaMonkey isn't giving me a choice and is instead downloading 2.0.5 all by itself (this *really* needs to change as default). Nope, no change; SM still has 'Do this automatically...' greyed out. And, going to Edit|Preferences|Browser|Helper Applications shows no entries for microsoft, powerpoint, openoffice, ppt, etc. mimetype.rdf shows no related entries either. Question for Lee: What happens when you save the .pptx file and then open via Windows Explorer? What is the default application that opens the file for you? Open Office - the same program SM offers to open it with in the open or save dialog popup. !! This is interesting - try my work laptop that has both Office 2007 SeaMonkey installed and SM gives me the option to 'do this automatically ...' for the original problem link of http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx hrmm ... ... ... and the answer is I added this bit to the registry of my home PC (Windows Vista): cut here == Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.pptx] Content Type=application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation] Extension=.pptx cut
