Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem

2011-08-31 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)


chicagofan wrote:

 Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

 What does it mean to use images on the search page ?

 There is a background picture/image [you have chosen], with the Google search 
 box in the middle of it.  :)
 
 Like Windows wallpaper, if you will.  ;)

Ah, thank you, understood.  Well, it worked for me
using Seamonkey 2.3.1 under Win/XP PRO;SP3.  However,
as a vaguely related aside, after being driven to
distraction by Google's most recent attempt to infuriate
(the so-called Google Instant), I followed the advice
of a fellow distractee and changed my home page to

http://www.google.co.uk/webhp?complete=0

Result : instant bliss.  No more single-character interactions,
no more guessing, and no more half-baked suggestions.  Sanity
has been restored : long may it reign.

Philip Taylor

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Seamonkey 2.3.1 : can I turn off Seamonkey Instant

2011-08-31 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Having finally succeeded in turning off Google Instant
and Google Autocomplete by setting my home page to :

http://www.google.co.uk/webhp?complete=0

I am now being driven to distraction by Seamonkey's
Find behaviour (from Ctrl-F) seeking to emulate
the abominable Google Instant.  Is there any of
reverting Find's behaviour to its former line-
oriented behaviour whereby it used to wait to be
told what to search for (by hitting return) rather
than trying to be über-clever and guess from the
characters already typed ?

Philip Taylor
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SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
SeaMonkey 2.3.2 is now available as free downloads for Windows, Mac, and 
Linux from http://www.seamonkey-project.org. As always, we recommend 
that users keep up to date with the latest stability and support 
versions of SeaMonkey, and encourage all our users to upgrade to the 
very latest version.


We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest 
releases. If you already have SeaMonkey, you will receive an automated 
update notification within 24 to 48 hours.


SeaMonkey 2.3.2 revokes the root certificate for DigiNotar due to 
fraudulent SSL certificate issuance. For additional details, see 
http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/08/29/fraudulent-google-com-certificate.


Note: All SeaMonkey users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to the 
latest SeaMonkey by downloading it from our website or by selecting 
“Check for Updates…” from the Help menu and clicking on “Update SeaMonkey”.


Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-31

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic]

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread chokito
The About SeaMonkey shows the old version 2.3.1 instead 2.3.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/
20110830 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread chokito
The About SeaMonkey shows the old version 2.3.1 instead 2.3.2
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/
20110830 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread Philipp Wagner

Am 31.08.2011 11:31, schrieb Justin Wood (Callek):

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic]


That gives a 404 error, 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/system-requirements works.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.1 Upgrade

2011-08-31 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:10:42 -0700, Michael Gordon wrote:

 Almost all the familiar tools I used on a daily basis are missing 
 because they are not compatible with this newer version of SeaMonkey. 
 Most notably the “Google Search Bar” is missing, but still available 
 with Internet Explorer.  When I need to perform research and development 
 on the Web I can still open Internet Explorer and perform the research I 
 need for a project.

Google has EOLed it's Google Search Bar for Firefox which I guess is
also for SeaMonkey. Therefore there won't be an updated version.

Phil

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.1 Upgrade

2011-08-31 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:16:11 -0700, Michael Gordon wrote:
 Mike wrote:
 Michael Gordon wrote:

 Most notably the “Google Search Bar” is missing

 Right-click the toolbar and choose customize. You can add a native
 Google Search box to the right of the address bar (ala Firefox) from there.

 True, but you cannot add the old search options as found in the previous 
 Google Search Bar.

Someone might be able to adapt Googlebar Lite for SeaMonkey.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/googlebar-lite/
That should give you much but not all the functionality of the official
googlebar.

Phil

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Re: A plea for a return to sanity in new version release scheduling

2011-08-31 Thread Daniel

Michael Gordon wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ron Hunter wrote:

On 8/29/2011 8:16 AM, Daniel wrote:

John wrote:

I use SeaMonkey most of the time and Firefox occasionally. I try
never
to use IE.

The web browser and email client are critically important to me,
and I
think the majority of users would agree.

Since Firefox and SeaMonkey embarked on their accelerated release
schedule, we've seen several updates incorporating many significant
behavioral changes which are causing grief to many users. Along with
this we are being encouraged to upgrade promptly because that's the
only
way to get the latest security patches. Why the big hurry all of a
sudden?

Changes in program behavior should be fully documented in advance
of an
upgrade. Users who prefer the behavior of the old version should be
given the option to retain it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

The end user should not be forced to be the guinea pig whose
feedback
becomes the quality control for these programs. Please return to the
former more careful release strategy.

I worked as an electrical engineer for Motorola for many years. All
too
often, we had products being sold before they were designed and
unrelenting pressure to push them out the door. There's never
time to
do it right, but there's always time to do it over was the cynical
opinion of many of my colleagues. It seems like the software
industry is
the same way.


Is it really rapid-release??

SeaMonkey 1.0 alpha through to SeaMonkey 1.0.9 - twelve releases over
twenty months.

SeaMonkey 1.1 alpha through to SeaMonkey 1.1.19 - twenty two releases
over forty three months.

SeaMonkey 2.0 alpha through to SeaMonkey to SeaMonkey 2.0.14 - twenty
two releases over thirty months.

Should the question really be *What's the difference??*


There are a lot of differences, but the primary one is that the new
release system includes NOT just bug and security fixes, but NEW
FEATURES. There is also an ongoing User Interface redesign that is
taking place slowly since FF4. I can't see that just how they
choose to
number releases affects any aspect of either use, or utility, of a
release. Getting new features, and other 'non-bug/security' fixes to
the
user-base as quickly as possible means the FF can remain
competitive in
a rather difficult market.
I, for one, think the new system is fantastic, and makes the product
more useful, and more 'current'. What numbers are applied, I will let
others discuss because it doesn't matter to me.



The point, which I apparently failed to make, is that SM updates have
always happened fairly often, so I don't see what the problem with six
weekly updates is??



Daniel,

There should not be any problem with the weekly updates as long as the
first in the series contains fully documented changes to how important
user tools and option perform.

Example: When upgrading from SM 2.0 to 2.1 all user tools and options
that have been improved from the previous version need to be fully
documented within the application Help Files. Major security fixes need
to be fully documented where those fixes may change the behavior over
the older version.

When making a minor version change (2.0.1 to 2.0.2) or (2.2.1 to 2.2.2)
for security patches those changes must not change any user tools or
operations. If a security patch is required that will affect user
options then a new version level needs to be created with full
documentation.

Full documentation does not mean disclosing the code base in question,
but dose mean how the changes will affect user experience with the new
upgrade.

Failure to perform these simple tasks will drive more users back to MS
Internet Explorer and Outlook.

Conclusion: The number of security patches is very important to keep our
applications secure from the nasty world of Hackers and Crackers trying
to infect our computers. At the same time the new and improved
updates/upgrades must document the changes and how they may affect user
experience.

I don't mind having one, two, or three security upgrades a week if those
upgrades do not affect how I use SM, and if they may affect my use of SM
how do the changes affect how I use SM.

Michael G


Michael, back a bit I reported that I was having a problem so, after
upgrading, when I clicked on the Browser Icon (I normally just start in
Mail  News), I was being taken to a SeaMonkey-Project page which
advised of the problems/improvements made in the upgrade rather than my
Home Group. This was a desired situation (by the developers) which, I
think, could be switched off in prefs.js

Has this function been changed??



In an upgrade it may have changed some basic preferences.

When you write the Browser Icon are you referring to the SeaMonkey
icon on your desktop?


As I typed above, I normally just start in Mail  News, so when I typed 
Browser Icon, I mean the one in the bottom left of the Mail  News screen.




You can change how SM opens in the Edit/Preferences/Appearance by
selecting the 

2.3.2 .dmg file (for Mac) contains 2.3.1

2011-08-31 Thread Miles Fidelman

FYI:
After getting the you're running an older version message, downloading 
and installing the 2.3.2 .dmg file (Mac), I found that I was still 
getting the error message -- looking deeper, I found that the installed 
version announces itself as 2.3.1, and looking into the downloaded 
package, get info and the info.plist file revealed that it was, in 
fact, 2.3.1  --- looks like something in the distribution pipeline went 
wrong.


Already filed a big report.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.3.2 is now available as free downloads for Windows, Mac, and
Linux from http://www.seamonkey-project.org. As always, we recommend
that users keep up to date with the latest stability and support
versions of SeaMonkey, and encourage all our users to upgrade to the
very latest version.

We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest
releases. If you already have SeaMonkey, you will receive an automated
update notification within 24 to 48 hours.

SeaMonkey 2.3.2 revokes the root certificate for DigiNotar due to
fraudulent SSL certificate issuance. For additional details, see
http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/08/29/fraudulent-google-com-certificate.


Note: All SeaMonkey users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to the
latest SeaMonkey by downloading it from our website or by selecting
“Check for Updates…” from the Help menu and clicking on “Update SeaMonkey”.

Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-31

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic]


After reading the other postings dealing with 2.3.2, I get the distinct
impression that the botched 2.3.2 release was a *panic* Get it out the 
door quick, reaction to the recent security breach event.

Will y'all fix 2.3.2 , and dot the ts and cross the is before
re releasing?
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Re: Question about 2.0.14 - 2.3.1 upgrade.

2011-08-31 Thread Walter

Michael Gordon wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

I'm on a 64bit WIN 7 Ultimate system.
I just downloaded the SM 2.3.1 program binary from
www.seamonky-project.org and ran the installer exe.
(after a full backup of the profile and program folders)
The installer ran in a flash, and now I'm supposedly
at SM 2.3.1
But I'm curious and just a bit apprehensive.
Did that upgrade installation carry out all those
profile conversions that were discussed and argued
about here, such as the bookmarks database conversion
et.c. ?
I need reassurance :-)

It did for my Win XP SR3 computer.
I noticed the same almost instant install process and came to the
conclusion that if the previous installation used the default
installation paths then the later upgrades would perform almost
instantly. Reason: The installer new exactly where to find the older
files to upgrade.

Michael G


ME, too. I am running 2.0.14 because of all the negative comments of the 
versions after that. I am running HP desktop, 6gb memory 750gb hard 
drive, Windows 7. I know there has been a great deal of be sure to do 
this/that before you upgrade so I have been hesitant to get away from 
2.0.14. Am I getting left behind with security issues, better features, 
new options, etc?


w.

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Re: Question about 2.0.14 - 2.3.1 upgrade.

2011-08-31 Thread Michael Gordon

Walter wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

I'm on a 64bit WIN 7 Ultimate system.
I just downloaded the SM 2.3.1 program binary from
www.seamonky-project.org and ran the installer exe.
(after a full backup of the profile and program folders)
The installer ran in a flash, and now I'm supposedly
at SM 2.3.1
But I'm curious and just a bit apprehensive.
Did that upgrade installation carry out all those
profile conversions that were discussed and argued
about here, such as the bookmarks database conversion
et.c. ?
I need reassurance :-)

It did for my Win XP SR3 computer.
I noticed the same almost instant install process and came to the
conclusion that if the previous installation used the default
installation paths then the later upgrades would perform almost
instantly. Reason: The installer new exactly where to find the older
files to upgrade.

Michael G


ME, too. I am running 2.0.14 because of all the negative comments of the
versions after that. I am running HP desktop, 6gb memory 750gb hard
drive, Windows 7. I know there has been a great deal of be sure to do
this/that before you upgrade so I have been hesitant to get away from
2.0.14. Am I getting left behind with security issues, better features,
new options, etc?

w.



As far as I know there are only two issues in where you will be lewft 
behind.

1. Security related issues.
2. Some plugins and Ad-ons may not function.

Michael g
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread NoOp
On 08/31/2011 02:31 AM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 SeaMonkey 2.3.2 is now available as free downloads for Windows, Mac, and 
 Linux from http://www.seamonkey-project.org. As always, we recommend 
 that users keep up to date with the latest stability and support 
 versions of SeaMonkey, and encourage all our users to upgrade to the 
 very latest version.
 
 We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest 
 releases. If you already have SeaMonkey, you will receive an automated 
 update notification within 24 to 48 hours.
 
 SeaMonkey 2.3.2 revokes the root certificate for DigiNotar due to 
 fraudulent SSL certificate issuance. For additional details, see 
 http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/08/29/fraudulent-google-com-certificate.
 
 Note: All SeaMonkey users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to the 
 latest SeaMonkey by downloading it from our website or by selecting 
 “Check for Updates…” from the Help menu and clicking on “Update SeaMonkey”.
 
 Full news article:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-31
 
 Release notes:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3
 
 System Requirements:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic]
 

http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/08/29/fraudulent-google-com-certificate/

Note: if you are unable to update until later for some reason, I
*highly* recommend: Edit|Preferences|Privacy 
Security|Certificates|Manage Certificates|Authorities|click on
'DigiNotrar Root CA' and click 'Delete or Distrust'  'OK'.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 8/31/2011 6:11 AM, Philipp Wagner wrote:

Am 31.08.2011 11:31, schrieb Justin Wood (Callek):

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic]


That gives a 404 error,
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/system-requirements works.


Thanks (I forgot Jens updated the url for it, probably worth me/him 
creating a |301| for that url though, given my history listing it in 
these announcements)


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 8/31/2011 11:43 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.3.2 is now available as free downloads for Windows, Mac, and
Linux from http://www.seamonkey-project.org. As always, we recommend
that users keep up to date with the latest stability and support
versions of SeaMonkey, and encourage all our users to upgrade to the
very latest version.

We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest
releases. If you already have SeaMonkey, you will receive an automated
update notification within 24 to 48 hours.

SeaMonkey 2.3.2 revokes the root certificate for DigiNotar due to
fraudulent SSL certificate issuance. For additional details, see
http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/08/29/fraudulent-google-com-certificate.



Note: All SeaMonkey users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to the
latest SeaMonkey by downloading it from our website or by selecting
“Check for Updates…” from the Help menu and clicking on “Update
SeaMonkey”.

Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-31

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic]


After reading the other postings dealing with 2.3.2, I get the distinct
impression that the botched 2.3.2 release was a *panic* Get it out the
door quick, reaction to the recent security breach event.
Will y'all fix 2.3.2 , and dot the ts and cross the is before
re releasing?


2.3.2 was a panic release, because it was an issue actively exploiting 
users in the wild, on that release day, and had been for a while :( .


The only issue with SeaMonkey 2.3.2 that was not in Firefox 6.0.1 was 
our reported version string. Sadly, that had a few user facing what, 
why, do I have the right version feelings.


Luckily (or unluckily depending on your POV) there is a new chemspill 
because they took the block slightly further than initially intended, 
that should be released within 48 hours, that will correct also our 
version number.


I will be doing partial (small) updates for both 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 for 
that, so hopefully your impact is relatively small.


Thank you for your patience.
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Re: 2.3.2 .dmg file (for Mac) contains 2.3.1

2011-08-31 Thread Frank Chan
On Aug 31, 6:34 am, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
 FYI:
 After getting the you're running an older version message, downloading
 and installing the 2.3.2 .dmg file (Mac), I found that I was still
 getting the error message -- looking deeper, I found that the installed
 version announces itself as 2.3.1, and looking into the downloaded
 package, get info and the info.plist file revealed that it was, in
 fact, 2.3.1  --- looks like something in the distribution pipeline went
 wrong.

 Already filed a big report.

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 In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
 Infnord  practice, there is.    Yogi Berra

Saw the same thing here. I also downloaded the SeaMonkey2.3.2.dmg from
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.3.2 and got the disk
image of what appears to be SeaMonkey version 2.3.2 but it actually is
version 2.3.1 when I copied to my hard drive and opened it. Can
someone check what happened to the real version 2.3.2?

Thank you,
Frank
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Re: Question about 2.0.14 - 2.3.1 upgrade.

2011-08-31 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 31/08/2011 13:32, Walter told the world:

 ME, too. I am running 2.0.14 because of all the negative comments of the 
 versions after that. I am running HP desktop, 6gb memory 750gb hard 
 drive, Windows 7. I know there has been a great deal of be sure to do 
 this/that before you upgrade so I have been hesitant to get away from 
 2.0.14. Am I getting left behind with security issues, better features, 
 new options, etc?

Yes, you are getting left behind. What you aren't getting:

- Any security fixes in Gecko since Firefox 3.5.x was end-of-life'd in
April 2011.
- Any improvements in Gecko rendering since Firefox 3.6 was launched in
January 2010.
- Any user-interface and other fixes since Seamonkey 2.0.x was
end-of-life'd in June 2011.
- The Places bookmarks system (which dates from Firefox 3, but was kinda
left behind in the Toolkit transition for Seamonkey 2.0)

This includes, but is not limited to:
- Faster Javascript
- Personas
- Full-screen playback of Theora video
- WOFF web fonts
- Improved support for HTML5, CSS3, WebM, and WebGL.
- Numerous security enhancements

-- 
MCBastos

This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized
use will be prosecuted under the DMCA.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread NoOp
On 08/31/2011 12:10 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 8/31/2011 11:43 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
...
 After reading the other postings dealing with 2.3.2, I get the distinct
 impression that the botched 2.3.2 release was a *panic* Get it out the
 door quick, reaction to the recent security breach event.
 Will y'all fix 2.3.2 , and dot the ts and cross the is before
 re releasing?
 
 2.3.2 was a panic release, because it was an issue actively exploiting 
 users in the wild, on that release day, and had been for a while :( .
 
 The only issue with SeaMonkey 2.3.2 that was not in Firefox 6.0.1 was 
 our reported version string. Sadly, that had a few user facing what, 
 why, do I have the right version feelings.
 
 Luckily (or unluckily depending on your POV) there is a new chemspill 
 because they took the block slightly further than initially intended, 
 that should be released within 48 hours, that will correct also our 
 version number.
 
 I will be doing partial (small) updates for both 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 for 
 that, so hopefully your impact is relatively small.
 
 Thank you for your patience.

Linux versions are borked (both 32bit and 64bit). Both report 2.3.1. But
*worse* is that they reenstate DigiNotar Root CA. Tested both ways:

1. 32bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830
Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

2. 64bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back. So I downloaded
the entire bz2, deleted the old, and extracted to a new folder;
DigiNotar Root CA is now back on that version as well.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.1)
Gecko/20110830 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

I've not tested any windows versions (yet).
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SeaMonkey for Mac not updated to version 2.32.

2011-08-31 Thread fchan
I attempted to update SeaMonkey on my Mac this morning using Check 
for Update and it got the update, however, when I checked the version 
using About SeaMonkey it showed version 2.3.1. Then I went to the 
www.seamonkey-project.org website to download the disk image and it 
showed SeaMonkey2.3.2.dmg and I downloaded on my system and then I 
copied SeaMonkey to my Applications Folder and then I open SeaMonkey 
and it showed version 2.3.1.

Where is the real SeaMonkey version 2.3.2?

Thank you,
Frank
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 8/31/2011 5:39 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 08/31/2011 12:10 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 8/31/2011 11:43 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

...

After reading the other postings dealing with 2.3.2, I get the distinct
impression that the botched 2.3.2 release was a *panic* Get it out the
door quick, reaction to the recent security breach event.
Will y'all fix 2.3.2 , and dot the ts and cross the is before
re releasing?


2.3.2 was a panic release, because it was an issue actively exploiting
users in the wild, on that release day, and had been for a while :( .

The only issue with SeaMonkey 2.3.2 that was not in Firefox 6.0.1 was
our reported version string. Sadly, that had a few user facing what,
why, do I have the right version feelings.

Luckily (or unluckily depending on your POV) there is a new chemspill
because they took the block slightly further than initially intended,
that should be released within 48 hours, that will correct also our
version number.

I will be doing partial (small) updates for both 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 for
that, so hopefully your impact is relatively small.

Thank you for your patience.


Linux versions are borked (both 32bit and 64bit). Both report 2.3.1. But
*worse* is that they reenstate DigiNotar Root CA. Tested both ways:

1. 32bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830
Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

2. 64bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back. So I downloaded
the entire bz2, deleted the old, and extracted to a new folder;
DigiNotar Root CA is now back on that version as well.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.1)
Gecko/20110830 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

I've not tested any windows versions (yet).


The root CA will still appear in the cert list, but it is blocked, 
please test with a website.


But its a factor of how this code works.

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Re: 2.3.2 .dmg file (for Mac) contains 2.3.1

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 8/31/2011 6:06 PM, Patrick Crumhorn wrote:


Similar issue here but with WinXP. Updated to 2.3.2 for Windows but the
About SeaMonkey page and the user agent both still show it as 2.3.1.

Frank Chan wrote:

On Aug 31, 6:34 am, Miles Fidelmanmfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:

FYI:
After getting the you're running an older version message, downloading
and installing the 2.3.2 .dmg file (Mac), I found that I was still
getting the error message -- looking deeper, I found that the installed
version announces itself as 2.3.1, and looking into the downloaded
package, get info and the info.plist file revealed that it was, in
fact, 2.3.1 --- looks like something in the distribution pipeline went
wrong.

Already filed a big report.

--
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Infnord practice, there is.  Yogi Berra


Saw the same thing here. I also downloaded the SeaMonkey2.3.2.dmg from
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.3.2 and got the disk
image of what appears to be SeaMonkey version 2.3.2 but it actually is
version 2.3.1 when I copied to my hard drive and opened it. Can
someone check what happened to the real version 2.3.2?

Thank you,
Frank




I created a blog post about this:
http://blog.drapostles.org/archives/69

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Re: SeaMonkey for Mac not updated to version 2.32.

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 8/31/2011 6:06 PM, fchan wrote:

I attempted to update SeaMonkey on my Mac this morning using Check for
Update and it got the update, however, when I checked the version using
About SeaMonkey it showed version 2.3.1. Then I went to the
www.seamonkey-project.org website to download the disk image and it
showed SeaMonkey2.3.2.dmg and I downloaded on my system and then I
copied SeaMonkey to my Applications Folder and then I open SeaMonkey and
it showed version 2.3.1.
Where is the real SeaMonkey version 2.3.2?

Thank you,
Frank


I created a blog post about this:
http://blog.drapostles.org/archives/69

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Re: 2.3.2 .dmg file (for Mac) contains 2.3.1

2011-08-31 Thread Patrick Crumhorn


Similar issue here but with WinXP.  Updated to 2.3.2 for Windows but the About SeaMonkey page and 
the user agent both still show it as 2.3.1.


Frank Chan wrote:

On Aug 31, 6:34 am, Miles Fidelmanmfidel...@meetinghouse.net  wrote:

FYI:
After getting the you're running an older version message, downloading
and installing the 2.3.2 .dmg file (Mac), I found that I was still
getting the error message -- looking deeper, I found that the installed
version announces itself as 2.3.1, and looking into the downloaded
package, get info and the info.plist file revealed that it was, in
fact, 2.3.1  --- looks like something in the distribution pipeline went
wrong.

Already filed a big report.

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
Infnordpractice, there is.    Yogi Berra


Saw the same thing here. I also downloaded the SeaMonkey2.3.2.dmg from
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.3.2 and got the disk
image of what appears to be SeaMonkey version 2.3.2 but it actually is
version 2.3.1 when I copied to my hard drive and opened it. Can
someone check what happened to the real version 2.3.2?

Thank you,
Frank


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Re: 2.3.2 .dmg file (for Mac) contains 2.3.1

2011-08-31 Thread Patrick Crumhorn


Thanks!  I figured that was the case, but just wanted that extra bit of assurance that the security 
issue was indeed fixed in this update.   :)



Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 8/31/2011 6:06 PM, Patrick Crumhorn wrote:


Similar issue here but with WinXP. Updated to 2.3.2 for Windows but the
About SeaMonkey page and the user agent both still show it as 2.3.1.

Frank Chan wrote:

On Aug 31, 6:34 am, Miles Fidelmanmfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:

FYI:
After getting the you're running an older version message, downloading
and installing the 2.3.2 .dmg file (Mac), I found that I was still
getting the error message -- looking deeper, I found that the installed
version announces itself as 2.3.1, and looking into the downloaded
package, get info and the info.plist file revealed that it was, in
fact, 2.3.1 --- looks like something in the distribution pipeline went
wrong.

Already filed a big report.

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
Infnord practice, there is.  Yogi Berra


Saw the same thing here. I also downloaded the SeaMonkey2.3.2.dmg from
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.3.2 and got the disk
image of what appears to be SeaMonkey version 2.3.2 but it actually is
version 2.3.1 when I copied to my hard drive and opened it. Can
someone check what happened to the real version 2.3.2?

Thank you,
Frank




I created a blog post about this:
http://blog.drapostles.org/archives/69



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Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem

2011-08-31 Thread chicagofan

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

chicagofan wrote:
   

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
 

What does it mean to use images on the search page ?
   

There is a background picture/image [you have chosen], with the Google search 
box in the middle of it.  :)

Like Windows wallpaper, if you will.  ;)
 

Ah, thank you, understood.  Well, it worked for me
using Seamonkey 2.3.1 under Win/XP PRO;SP3.  However,
as a vaguely related aside, after being driven to
distraction by Google's most recent attempt to infuriate
(the so-called Google Instant), I followed the advice
of a fellow distractee and changed my home page to

http://www.google.co.uk/webhp?complete=0

Result : instant bliss.  No more single-character interactions,
no more guessing, and no more half-baked suggestions.  Sanity
has been restored : long may it reign.

   
That's what my Google search page looks like now, except it has a BIG, 
multi-colored Google logo above the search field.  I hate that new 
Google multi-colored logo, and that's one of the reasons I want to 
choose the background.   :)

bj


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread NoOp
On 08/31/2011 03:07 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 8/31/2011 5:39 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/31/2011 12:10 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 8/31/2011 11:43 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
 ...
 After reading the other postings dealing with 2.3.2, I get the distinct
 impression that the botched 2.3.2 release was a *panic* Get it out the
 door quick, reaction to the recent security breach event.
 Will y'all fix 2.3.2 , and dot the ts and cross the is before
 re releasing?

 2.3.2 was a panic release, because it was an issue actively exploiting
 users in the wild, on that release day, and had been for a while :( .

 The only issue with SeaMonkey 2.3.2 that was not in Firefox 6.0.1 was
 our reported version string. Sadly, that had a few user facing what,
 why, do I have the right version feelings.

 Luckily (or unluckily depending on your POV) there is a new chemspill
 because they took the block slightly further than initially intended,
 that should be released within 48 hours, that will correct also our
 version number.

 I will be doing partial (small) updates for both 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 for
 that, so hopefully your impact is relatively small.

 Thank you for your patience.

 Linux versions are borked (both 32bit and 64bit). Both report 2.3.1. But
 *worse* is that they reenstate DigiNotar Root CA. Tested both ways:

 1. 32bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
 Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back.
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830
 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

 2. 64bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
 Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back. So I downloaded
 the entire bz2, deleted the old, and extracted to a new folder;
 DigiNotar Root CA is now back on that version as well.
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.1)
 Gecko/20110830 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

 I've not tested any windows versions (yet).
 
 The root CA will still appear in the cert list, but it is blocked, 
 please test with a website.
 
 But its a factor of how this code works.
 

Reloaded 2.3.1 (the original) and DigiNotar Root CA shows with trust
settings:
- This certificate can identify web sites
- This certificate can identify software makers
https://zga-tag.zorggroep-almere.nl/ works
2.16.528.1.1001.1.1.1.10.1:
  Certification Practice Statement pointer:
http://www.diginotar.nl/cps
  User Notice:
Conditions, as mentioned on our website (www.diginotar.nl), are
applicable to all our products and services.

Reloaded 2.3.2 64bit (shows 2.3.1) and DigiNotar Root CA now is not
showing at all  https://zga-tag.zorggroep-almere.nl/ shows an invalid cert.

Reloaded 2.3.2 (32bit) and DigiNotar Root CA shows with all trust
settings unchecked (similar to Windows).
https://zga-tag.zorggroep-almere.nl/ shows an invalid cert.

Odd that the 32bit shows, but the 64bit has it removed completely. Not
sure why I have different results (regarding showing  not showing the
cert) so I'll test on a few more machines.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread NoOp
On 08/31/2011 04:26 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/31/2011 03:07 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 8/31/2011 5:39 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/31/2011 12:10 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 8/31/2011 11:43 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
 ...
 After reading the other postings dealing with 2.3.2, I get the distinct
 impression that the botched 2.3.2 release was a *panic* Get it out the
 door quick, reaction to the recent security breach event.
 Will y'all fix 2.3.2 , and dot the ts and cross the is before
 re releasing?

 2.3.2 was a panic release, because it was an issue actively exploiting
 users in the wild, on that release day, and had been for a while :( .

 The only issue with SeaMonkey 2.3.2 that was not in Firefox 6.0.1 was
 our reported version string. Sadly, that had a few user facing what,
 why, do I have the right version feelings.

 Luckily (or unluckily depending on your POV) there is a new chemspill
 because they took the block slightly further than initially intended,
 that should be released within 48 hours, that will correct also our
 version number.

 I will be doing partial (small) updates for both 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 for
 that, so hopefully your impact is relatively small.

 Thank you for your patience.

 Linux versions are borked (both 32bit and 64bit). Both report 2.3.1. But
 *worse* is that they reenstate DigiNotar Root CA. Tested both ways:

 1. 32bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
 Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back.
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830
 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

 2. 64bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
 Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back. So I downloaded
 the entire bz2, deleted the old, and extracted to a new folder;
 DigiNotar Root CA is now back on that version as well.
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.1)
 Gecko/20110830 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

 I've not tested any windows versions (yet).
 
 The root CA will still appear in the cert list, but it is blocked, 
 please test with a website.
 
 But its a factor of how this code works.
 
 
 Reloaded 2.3.1 (the original) and DigiNotar Root CA shows with trust
 settings:
 - This certificate can identify web sites
 - This certificate can identify software makers
 https://zga-tag.zorggroep-almere.nl/ works
 2.16.528.1.1001.1.1.1.10.1:
   Certification Practice Statement pointer:
 http://www.diginotar.nl/cps
   User Notice:
 Conditions, as mentioned on our website (www.diginotar.nl), are
 applicable to all our products and services.
 
 Reloaded 2.3.2 64bit (shows 2.3.1) and DigiNotar Root CA now is not
 showing at all  https://zga-tag.zorggroep-almere.nl/ shows an invalid cert.
 
 Reloaded 2.3.2 (32bit) and DigiNotar Root CA shows with all trust
 settings unchecked (similar to Windows).
 https://zga-tag.zorggroep-almere.nl/ shows an invalid cert.
 
 Odd that the 32bit shows, but the 64bit has it removed completely. Not
 sure why I have different results (regarding showing  not showing the
 cert) so I'll test on a few more machines.

Just tested another 32bit:

2.3.1 (Gecko/20110820) shows DigiNotar Root CA with no trust settings
ticked. https://zga-tag.zorggroep-almere.nl/ works. Now updating via
Help|Check for Updates. Update complete  'Restart SeaMonkey'...
SeaMonkey restarted... https://zga-tag.zorggroep-almere.nl/ shows an
invalid cert. DigiNotar Root CA shows with all trust settings unchecked.

So I reckon that it's working, but odd.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread NoOp
On 08/31/2011 03:07 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 8/31/2011 5:39 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 Linux versions are borked (both 32bit and 64bit). Both report 2.3.1. But
 *worse* is that they reenstate DigiNotar Root CA. Tested both ways:

 1. 32bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
 Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back.
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830
 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

 2. 64bit linux deleted DigiNotar Root CA and then did the update via
 Help|Check for Updates. DigiNotar Root CA is now back. So I downloaded
 the entire bz2, deleted the old, and extracted to a new folder;
 DigiNotar Root CA is now back on that version as well.
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.1)
 Gecko/20110830 Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1

 I've not tested any windows versions (yet).
 
 The root CA will still appear in the cert list, but it is blocked, 
 please test with a website.

Further to my other posts following this: If I delete the Root CA cert via:
Edit|Preferences|Privacy 
Security|Certificates|Manage Certificates|Authorities|click on
'DigiNotrar Root CA' and click 'Delete or Distrust'  'OK'.

The cert disappears. But the reappears when SeaMonkey is restarted (at
least in several instances that I've tested). Why is that? Shouldn't the
above _totally_ clear the cert from the database?

 But its a factor of how this code works.
 

Not really IMO. See my questions above.

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SeaMonkey 2.3.2/Mozilla DigiNotrar certs

2011-08-31 Thread NoOp
Added info regarding Justin's 2.3.2 update thread.

According to this Register article:
quote
By Dan Goodin in San Francisco • Get more from this author

Posted in Enterprise Security, 31st August 2011 18:34 GMT

The secure webpage hosting addons for Mozilla Firefox was targeted in
the same attack that minted a fraudulent authentication credential for
Google websites, the maker of the open-source browser said.
...
/quote
Full news article at:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/31/more_site_certificates_forged/
[Mozilla addons site targeted in same attack that hit Google]

Anyone know if there is any truth to that?

I now feel our past threads raising concerns regarding auto-update (core
and add-ons) now have additional validity. All of the 'it's OK, just
trust us' but actually isn't raises it's ugly head - again. Note: I
realize this _isn't_ Mozilla's fault, however it does indeed again raise
the issue of trusting autoupdates (core and add-ons) defaults.

It seems that DigiNotar was aware of the hack some time ago:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/08/diginotar-breach/
[Google Certificate Hackers May Have Stolen 200 Others]
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9219663/Hackers_may_have_stolen_over_200_SSL_certificates

Gotta love the press release by Vasco/DigiNotar:
http://www.vasco.com/company/press_room/news_archive/2011/news_diginotar_reports_security_incident.aspx
quote
VASCO expects the impact of the breach of DigiNotar’s SSL and EVSSL
business to be minimal. Through the first six months of 2011, revenue
from the SSL and EVSSL business was less than Euro 100,000.
VASCO does not expect that the DigiNotar security incident will have a
significant impact on the company’s future revenue or business plans.
/quote

Anyway; block these guys by upgrading and/or
Edit|Preferences|Privacy 
Security|Certificates|Manage Certificates|Authorities|click on
'DigiNotrar Root CA' and click 'Delete or Distrust'  'OK'.
if you can't immediately upgrade.

And for more excitement  reading, here is the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682927
[Dis-trust DigiNotar root certificate]


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/31/11 2:31 AM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 SeaMonkey 2.3.2 is now available as free downloads for Windows, Mac, and 
 Linux from http://www.seamonkey-project.org. As always, we recommend 
 that users keep up to date with the latest stability and support 
 versions of SeaMonkey, and encourage all our users to upgrade to the 
 very latest version.
 
 We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest 
 releases. If you already have SeaMonkey, you will receive an automated 
 update notification within 24 to 48 hours.
 
 SeaMonkey 2.3.2 revokes the root certificate for DigiNotar due to 
 fraudulent SSL certificate issuance. For additional details, see 
 http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/08/29/fraudulent-google-com-certificate.
 
 Note: All SeaMonkey users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to the 
 latest SeaMonkey by downloading it from our website or by selecting 
 “Check for Updates…” from the Help menu and clicking on “Update SeaMonkey”.
 
 Full news article:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-31
 
 Release notes:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3
 
 System Requirements:
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic]
 

Will there be a SeaMonkey 2.3.2 that says it is 2.3.2?

What is the difference between installing 2.3.2 versus going to [Edit 
Preferences  Privacy  Security  Certificates], selecting the Manage
Certificates button, selecting the DigiNotar Root CA entry, and
selecting the Delete or Distrust button?

-- 

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: SM 2.0.10 - Google images problem

2011-08-31 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

chicagofan wrote:


That's what my Google search page looks like now, except it has a
BIG, multi-colored Google logo above the search field. I hate that
new Google multi-colored logo, and that's one of the reasons I want
to choose the background. :)


Well, to paraphrase a common Midwestern saying, If you don't like 
Google's logo, wait a minute. They change them daily.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 31/08/2011 23:08, David E. Ross told the world:

 Will there be a SeaMonkey 2.3.2 that says it is 2.3.2?

I don't think so. But there will be a 2.3.3. that says it's 2.3.3 pretty
soon.

 What is the difference between installing 2.3.2 versus going to [Edit 
 Preferences  Privacy  Security  Certificates], selecting the Manage
 Certificates button, selecting the DigiNotar Root CA entry, and
 selecting the Delete or Distrust button?

Not much, I understand. But for many users, the second option is too
complicated.

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OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-08-31 Thread Ant
... Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over 
v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)

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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-08-31 Thread Sailfish
My bloviated meandering follows what Ant graced us with on 8/31/2011 
9:31 PM:
 Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over 
v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


You can have separation installation folders for SeaMonkey and it works 
just fine. I cannot say the same will be true for any extensions/themes 
you have in v2.0.14, though.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 8/31/2011 10:55 PM, JD wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.3.2 is now available as free downloads for Windows, Mac, and
Linux from http://www.seamonkey-project.org. As always, we recommend
that users keep up to date with the latest stability and support
versions of SeaMonkey, and encourage all our users to upgrade to the
very latest version.

We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey users upgrade to this latest
releases. If you already have SeaMonkey, you will receive an automated
update notification within 24 to 48 hours.

SeaMonkey 2.3.2 revokes the root certificate for DigiNotar due to
fraudulent SSL certificate issuance. For additional details, see
http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2011/08/29/fraudulent-google-com-certificate.



Note: All SeaMonkey users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to the
latest SeaMonkey by downloading it from our website or by selecting
“Check for Updates…” from the Help menu and clicking on “Update
SeaMonkey”.

Full news article:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-08-31

Release notes:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.3

System Requirements:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements [sic]



I clicked on Help, Check For Updates and took the update to SM 2.3.1 to
update to SM 2.3.2 and restarted SM when requested but when I click on
Help, About SeaMonkey, it still says SM 2.3.1.

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830
Firefox/6.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.3.1


Yes that is a known issue, thank you for reporting it though.


I'm not complaining, I've just curious as to what version I have?

Has my major security flaw been corrected?



It has, there is a followup fix that will be coming soon that will also 
correct the version # mistake, we'll label it as 2.3.3


You can see my [personal] blog post on this mistake as well:
http://blog.drapostles.org/archives/69

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.2 Release -- Corrects Major Security Flaw

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 8/31/2011 10:45 PM, MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 31/08/2011 23:08, David E. Ross told the world:


Will there be a SeaMonkey 2.3.2 that says it is 2.3.2?


I don't think so. But there will be a 2.3.3. that says it's 2.3.3 pretty
soon.


There will not, but as said there WILL be a 2.3.3 pretty darn soon 
(probably no later than friday)



What is the difference between installing 2.3.2 versus going to [Edit
Preferences  Privacy  Security  Certificates], selecting the Manage
Certificates button, selecting the DigiNotar Root CA entry, and
selecting the Delete or Distrust button?


Not much, I understand. But for many users, the second option is too
complicated.



Not too much, except 2.3.2/3 will make it much much harder to override 
(if you can even at all in some of these broken cases).


Though realize that you do need *at least* 2.3.1 to continue being able 
to get updates from our update server coming very very soon. And its 
much much better to just use our .x update than muck with the cert magic 
yourself.


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Re: OK, I think I am ready to upgrade my old SeaMonkey v2.0.14 to the latest ...

2011-08-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 9/1/2011 12:31 AM, Ant wrote:

... Can I do a separate installation of SM2, or does it have to be over
v2.0.14? Thank you in advance. :)


Separate install is fine, you *cannot* reuse the same profile between 
both versions without corruption though. 2.0.14-later should work just 
fine (there have been some minor reports relating to bookmarks, but are 
easily fixable) its the other direction that does not work.


So My recommendation (if you have ANY intent/chance you'll revert):
* Backup your _profile_ folder
* Use help-Check for updates...  download/install any update offers, 
repeat.
* You should now be on 2.3.2 (reports as 2.3.1 for now) with your 
working profile.


Alternatively you can install over the old location, or 
uninstall/reinstall. But the profile backup is your most important step 
if you want to have the option of going back to (security flawed) 2.0.14 
[I don't recommend it]


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