Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/1/11 10:40 PM, Ant wrote:
 Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real 
 user agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says:
 
 XML Parsing Error: not well-formed

[snipped]

 I had to fake with Firefox v3.6.8 to get rid of the error. I don't know 
 if v2.1+ has this problem too since I have not upgraded yet. :P

Yes, it happens with SeaMonkey 2.4.

This is a common problem when the Web server is sniffing for the user
agent (UA) string and the sniffing software fails to handle the case of
an unrecognized UA string, that is a browser for which the software does
not provide.

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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/1/2011 11:11 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real
user agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says:

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed


[snipped]


I had to fake with Firefox v3.6.8 to get rid of the error. I don't know
if v2.1+ has this problem too since I have not upgraded yet. :P


Yes, it happens with SeaMonkey 2.4.

This is a common problem when the Web server is sniffing for the user
agent (UA) string and the sniffing software fails to handle the case of
an unrecognized UA string, that is a browser for which the software does
not provide.


I thought SeaMonkey v2.1+ uses Firefox user agent by default.
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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Michael Gordon

Ant wrote:

Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real
user agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says:

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: http://www.allstate.com/
Line Number 75, Column 251: object
classid='clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-44455354'
codebase='http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0'
width='747' height='268' class='Pyramid' id='PyramidIntro'
align='middle' VIEWASTEXTparam name='allowScriptAccess' value='always'
/ param name='movie'
value='/Allstate/content/refresh-images/shoplessgetmore_110928.swf' /
param name='quality' value='high' / param name='bgcolor'
value='#FF' / param name='wmode' value='Transparent'/ param
name='FlashVars' value='geoserviceip=http://agent.allstate.com'/ embed
src='/Allstate/content/refresh-images/shoplessgetmore_110928.swf'
FlashVars='geoserviceip=http://agent.allstate.com' width='747'
height='268' Name='PyramidIntro' wmode='transparent'
PLUGINSPAGE='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' /embed
/object
...

I had to fake with Firefox v3.6.8 to get rid of the error. I don't know
if v2.1+ has this problem too since I have not upgraded yet. :P


Ant,

It works fine with no errors.
SM 2.4
Win XP Pro SR 3

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Is there an SM2.x extension that prompt user to send referrers or not when requested?

2011-10-02 Thread Ant
Kind of like cookies, prompt to allow or deny the cookies. So far, I 
only found addons for Firefox. :(


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Re: Lost extensions/add-ons in 2.4

2011-10-02 Thread Michael Gordon

Ant wrote:

On 9/29/2011 9:02 AM PT, Oedipe typed:


Here we go again, i've lost two extensions not compatible with the 2.4
recent upgrade :-(

I begin to be quite fed-up with all these automatic upgrades...


That is why I haven't upgraded. Ugh.


Ant,

I agree, that is why only my desktop has SM 2.4.  My laptop still has 
Mozilla 1.8 with all my extension tools for web development.


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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)



Ant wrote:

Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real user 
agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says:

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed


Happens all the time, and not just on allstate.com
I once knew what caused it, but this early in the
morning I simply cannot remember.

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Re: Do I still need version 2.0.14

2011-10-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)



Ant wrote:

On 9/30/2011 3:56 AM PT, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) typed:


I keep a copy of 2.0.14 on a less-used machine because there are
still some sites that work with 2.0.14 and which have caused
severe (intractable) problems with 2.2+


Which web sites?


Ebay image uploader, and others I encountered
more recently but which were less important and
whose URLs I have therefore not mentally retained.

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Re: No longer able to access Cookies for Localhost or web subdomains

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sat, 1 Oct 2011 16:09:54 -0700 (PDT), /Ken/:


If I go to Tools, Cookie Manager, Manage Stored Cookies
and enter localhost (without the quotes) in the Search Window, no
cookies are returned in the main window.

Whereas if you go to chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul
and also search for localhost, it returns over a dozen cookies.


Sorry, I can't reproduce this, but here's a suggestion.  The search 
in the stand-alone Cookie Manager searches on anything - 
website/domain name, cookie name, cookie value.  Could you verify 
searching for localhost does indeed return only cookies for 
localhost and no other domains, for you?



Likewise when I search for test.mydomain.com where mydomain is my
domain URL.


So, if you have noticed the Domain list contains only top-level 
cookie domains like mydomain.com.  Entering test.mydomain.com 
will surely find nothing.  Try searching for mydomain.com.  When 
you select it, the right-hand pane will show the cookies for 
mydomain.com and all subdomains like test.mydomain.com.


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Re: How can I get back the Most visited on my Bookmark toobar

2011-10-02 Thread Jens Hatlak

Joseph Mueller wrote:

After upgrading to Seamonkey 2.4 I inadvertently deleted the new Most
Visited folder from my Bookmarks toolbar. Anyone know how I can get it
back?


about:config
browser.places.smartBookmarksVersion - 0
Restart

HTH

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Re: Language pack does not update automatically on Seamonkey update

2011-10-02 Thread Daniel

NoOp wrote:

On 10/01/2011 03:07 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 10/01/2011 04:13 AM, Michal Svoboda wrote:

Hi,

I have the following problem for a number of update releases now.

1. I update seamonkey (using the packaging system of my Linux distribution)
2. Start new seamonkey
3. Seamonkey says that it needs to check the update
 compatibility/availability/whatever of the Czech language pack
4. Seamonkey says it could NOT find that and it starts in english
5. I go to the seamonkey download site, download and install the
 language pack manually and everything is okay

Any ideas how this can be fixed so that seamonkey updates the language
pack without manual intervention?

Seamonkey/OS version:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110930 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1

...
There are not auto updates etc., for linux 64 versions.


Well there are now, KaiRo has been preparing them manually the past few
months, when he can.


Actually they are not. Have you tried a linux _64 update?

I'm sorry, but this is so much BS. Every *every* linux x86_64 is:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

Contributed builds (other platforms)

These are unofficial builds and may be configured differently than the
official SeaMonkey builds. Please read their readme files for further
information.



The official support status is still the same, and my automation doesn't
create them, so EVERY automated update is created manually for linux64.


Yes, and so are you disputing my comment There are not auto updates
etc., for linux 64 versions.?

Sorry I've either missed your point, or you seem to have some other
magical x86_64 process that escapes the fact of my comment: There are
not auto updates etc., for linux 64 versions. (Should actually be
There are *no* auto updates etc., for linux 64 versions).

When was the last time that you managed to do an auto-update with a
linux 64bit SeaMonkey client?



Hey, NoOp, the last time that a linux 64bit SeaMonkey client happened to 
me was when I went from the second 2.3.1 to 2.3.3


Last night, I d/l'ed the 2.4.1 upgrade, but as I'm using Win7 tonight 
(to get it upgraded) I'm not sure if the linux 2.4.1 upgrade will take, 
but I fully expect it to.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.3 flickers all the time

2011-10-02 Thread Daniel

NoOp wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 10/01/2011 08:21 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/1/11 7:12 AM, Otto Wyss wrote:

Hope this is the right group. I've just checked Firefox with the
same web page
and it doesn't flicker.

Wyo

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: SeaMonkey 2.3.3 flickers all the time
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 06:31:50 -0500
From: Jay Garciaj...@jaynospamgarcia.com
Newsgroups: mozilla.general
References:jewdnvvu_-72txvtnz2dnuvz_jodn...@mozilla.org

On 01.10.2011 03:42, Otto Wyss wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Since version 2.3.3 SeaMonkey flickers on many webpages, it shortly
displays a white background before the content is shown. How can I
disable this?

Wyo


May be better to post Seamonkey issues in the Seamonkey group:

mozilla.support.seamonkey



This is bug #662871 at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662871. To stop it,
minimize the browser window and then restore it.

See also bug #664088 at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664088.



I just added comments to 664088; tested with WinXP 2.4.0 2.4.1 -
flickers. I then loaded 2.5b1 and the flicker is gone. Note: same
profile, same machine etc. Can anyone else with Windows please test
first with 2.4.x and then try 2.5b1 to see if they get the same results?


I probably should have posted that last from Windows instead of linux...

OK:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20110929
Firefox/8.0 SeaMonkey/2.5




Tonight, I'm using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) 
Gecko/20110902 SeaMonkey/2.3.3 and have no flickering.


Tonight, I've d/l'ed the upgrade to 2.4.1, on Wednesday I'll try it and 
see if I have any probs with it.


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Re: No longer able to access Cookies for Localhost or web subdomains

2011-10-02 Thread Ken
On Oct 2, 2:52 am, Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net wrote:
 Sat, 1 Oct 2011 16:09:54 -0700 (PDT), /Ken/:

  If I go to Tools, Cookie Manager, Manage Stored Cookies
  and enter localhost (without the quotes) in the Search Window, no
  cookies are returned in the main window.

  Whereas if you go to 
  chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul
  and also search for localhost, it returns over a dozen cookies.

 Sorry, I can't reproduce this, but here's a suggestion.  The search
 in the stand-alone Cookie Manager searches on anything -
 website/domain name, cookie name, cookie value.  Could you verify
 searching for localhost does indeed return only cookies for
 localhost and no other domains, for you?

  Likewise when I search for test.mydomain.com where mydomain is my
  domain URL.

 So, if you have noticed the Domain list contains only top-level
 cookie domains like mydomain.com.  Entering test.mydomain.com
 will surely find nothing.  Try searching for mydomain.com.  When
 you select it, the right-hand pane will show the cookies for
 mydomain.com and all subdomains like test.mydomain.com.

 --
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Stanimir,

Well it appears the search is no longer a search for all cookies that
are assigned to a subdomain, but only creates a filter in the Domain
list, and subdomains cannot be filtered.

The reason you can not produce this is that you are clicking on the
localhost that is returned from the filtered list, whereas I WAS NOT,
since the old SM would automatically returned the list of cookies.
The SM 2.0.14 search was a search for all the cookies for the site
entered in the search window, including subdomains and did not create
a filter list on which you have to then click in order to see the list
of cookies.

Sounds like the developers need to automate the display of the cookies
from the filtered list being returned by the search.  It would also be
nice if one could continue to be able to search by subdomains, but I
guess I can learn how to live with that restriction.

Thanks for your help.  I would never have figured out that I needed to
click on the domain in the left pain in order to see the cookies, if
you have not said you were not able to reproduced my problem.

Yes, when you search for localhost in the old or stand-alone Cookie
manager, it returns only the cookies for the localhost and no other
domains.  In the new SM 2.4.1, it just returns localhost in the left
pane.  One now has to click on the left pane localhost entry in
order to view the cookies.   So an additional step is required.

Of course, I can no longer search for subdomains.  Previously, when
one entered test.my... the list of cookies was immediately populated
as soon as I entered the 1st or 2nd character after the dot.  So it
does work but requires additional steps

Stanimir, thanks again for taking the time to help me work my way
through this issue.

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Re: Is there an SM2.x extension that prompt user to send referrers or not when requested?

2011-10-02 Thread Philip Chee
On 02/10/2011 14:27, Ant wrote:
 Kind of like cookies, prompt to allow or deny the cookies. So far, I 
 only found addons for Firefox. :(
 
 Thank you in advance. :)

Not sure if this is what you meant?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/requestpolicy/

Version 0.5.22
Released July 25, 2011
146.4 KB
Works with Mobile 0.1 - 1.0.*, SeaMonkey 2.0a - 2.7a1, Firefox 3.0 - 10.0a1

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Re: Lost extensions/add-ons in 2.4

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/1/2011 11:29 PM PT, Michael Gordon typed:


Here we go again, i've lost two extensions not compatible with the 2.4
recent upgrade :-(

I begin to be quite fed-up with all these automatic upgrades...


That is why I haven't upgraded. Ugh.


I agree, that is why only my desktop has SM 2.4. My laptop still has
Mozilla 1.8 with all my extension tools for web development.


Woah, why so old for v1.8? Wouldn't v2.0.14 be enough?
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Re: Do I still need version 2.0.14

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/1/2011 11:47 PM PT, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) typed:


I keep a copy of 2.0.14 on a less-used machine because there are
still some sites that work with 2.0.14 and which have caused
severe (intractable) problems with 2.2+


Which web sites?


Ebay image uploader, and others I encountered
more recently but which were less important and
whose URLs I have therefore not mentally retained.


Wow. I thought SM 2.1+ would be better in web site compatibilities 
because of its default Firefox user agent. :(

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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/1/2011 11:46 PM PT, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) typed:


Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real
user agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says:

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed


Happens all the time, and not just on allstate.com
I once knew what caused it, but this early in the
morning I simply cannot remember.


Well, changing to Firefox user agent worked for me but it is still 
annoying. I also see this on other web sites too. I am more surprised 
that using default Firefox user agent didn't work for Michael in 
newer/recent SM versions. :(

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Re: Lost extensions/add-ons in 2.4

2011-10-02 Thread Philip Chee
On 02/10/2011 14:29, Michael Gordon wrote:
 Ant wrote:
 On 9/29/2011 9:02 AM PT, Oedipe typed:

 Here we go again, i've lost two extensions not compatible with the 2.4
 recent upgrade :-(

 I begin to be quite fed-up with all these automatic upgrades...

 That is why I haven't upgraded. Ugh.
 
 Ant,
 
 I agree, that is why only my desktop has SM 2.4.  My laptop still has 
 Mozilla 1.8 with all my extension tools for web development.

Mozilla Suite 1.8 doesn't exist. The last in the line was Mozilla 1.8b1.
SeaMonkey 1.0 is what would have become Mozilla Suite 1.8 if Mozilla
Foundation hadn't abandoned the suite. But we couldn't call it Mozilla
1.8 because MoFo wouldn't allow us.

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Re: Is there an SM2.x extension that prompt user to send referrers or not when requested?

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/2/2011 4:36 AM PT, Philip Chee typed:


Kind of like cookies, prompt to allow or deny the cookies. So far, I
only found addons for Firefox. :(


Not sure if this is what you meant?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/requestpolicy/

Version 0.5.22
Released July 25, 2011
146.4 KB
Works with Mobile 0.1 - 1.0.*, SeaMonkey 2.0a - 2.7a1, Firefox 3.0 - 10.0a1


Hmm, looking at its description and https://www.requestpolicy.com/ 
doesn't say anything about referrers (about:config's 
network.http.sendRefererHeader for prompting me instead of on/off) so I 
e-mailed its support. I wonder if this addon/extension works with the 
newer versions of SM2 e.g., v2.4.1) when I do finally upgrade.

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Re: No longer able to access Cookies for Localhost or web subdomains

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:56:30 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Sat, 1 Oct 2011 05:41:30 -0700 (PDT), /Ken/:


My problem is that with the upgrade, I no longer am able to find and
delete cookies for localhost nor those for a subdomain such as
text.mydomain.com or joomla.mydomain.com  when testing web site
updates on a local WampServer environment or a test subdomain of one's
web site, this capability is absolutely necessary to be able to delete
specific cookies.


The new Data Manager appears to work fine for me, e.g. selecting
google.com in the Domain list I can see all of .google.com,
.code.google.com, .groups.google.com, groups.google.com, etc.
cookies in the right-hand Cookies pane.  I admit I'm still not used
to it and prefer the old UI, however.


BTW, I've just tried the Firefox equivalent of the Data Manager - 
Permissions Manager about:permissions [1] (introduced in Firefox 6 
but not exposed as item the UI, yet) and I find it much more 
friendlier.  It reuses the UI for the Password and Cookie Managers - 
it just opens them with the site/domain filter filled-in 
conveniently.  It also lists sites like code.google.com and 
google.com separately.


The other major difference seems that Data Manager lists any site 
preference stored while Permissions Manager exposes just a few 
selected.  I think this could be just augmented with a Manage 
Permissions button opening dialog pretty much like the Cookie and 
Password managers.


[1] 
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/how-do-i-manage-website-permissions


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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

Ant wrote:

On 10/1/2011 11:11 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real
user agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says:

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed


[snipped]


I had to fake with Firefox v3.6.8 to get rid of the error. I don't know
if v2.1+ has this problem too since I have not upgraded yet. :P


Yes, it happens with SeaMonkey 2.4.


Do you have the Firefox-Compat-Mode pref on or off, I couldn't tell:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110922 
Thunderbird/7.0


[Callek's mental note: I shouldn't be the one to comment about that]


This is a common problem when the Web server is sniffing for the user
agent (UA) string and the sniffing software fails to handle the case of
an unrecognized UA string, that is a browser for which the software does
not provide.


I thought SeaMonkey v2.1+ uses Firefox user agent by default.


No, we don't use the Firefox UA by default, we use a *compat* ua, we 
still do show SeaMonkey in there, but the way we do it has been known to 
be accepted by many websites that do it wrong. Allstate may just be 
doing it even worse.


/me defers testing himself until he catches up on the remaining mails in 
this thread.


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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

Ant wrote:

On 10/1/2011 11:46 PM PT, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) typed:


Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real
user agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says:

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed


Happens all the time, and not just on allstate.com
I once knew what caused it, but this early in the
morning I simply cannot remember.


Well, changing to Firefox user agent worked for me but it is still
annoying. I also see this on other web sites too. I am more surprised
that using default Firefox user agent didn't work for Michael in
newer/recent SM versions. :(


For what its worth, this works fine for me, in at least 2.5 beta 1.

Should work the same in 2.4 at the least.

This is with the Firefox Compat Pref Flipped.

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Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread Tom S.

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long while. I
thought eventually someone else would bring it up
and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
extension disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent the
pop-ups from happening?

TIA.


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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread WLS

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long while. I
thought eventually someone else would bring it up
and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
extension disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent the
pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block unrequested popup windows 
checked under your Privacy and Security preferences.


Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have AdBlock Plus installed 
and never have a problem with unrequested popups.


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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/1/11 11:25 PM, Ant wrote:
 On 10/1/2011 11:11 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:
 
 Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real
 user agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says:

 XML Parsing Error: not well-formed

  [snipped]

 I had to fake with Firefox v3.6.8 to get rid of the error. I don't know
 if v2.1+ has this problem too since I have not upgraded yet. :P

 Yes, it happens with SeaMonkey 2.4.

 This is a common problem when the Web server is sniffing for the user
 agent (UA) string and the sniffing software fails to handle the case of
 an unrecognized UA string, that is a browser for which the software does
 not provide.
 
 I thought SeaMonkey v2.1+ uses Firefox user agent by default.

I unchecked the checkbox for that and disabled the feature.  Thus, my UA
string is
   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923 SeaMonkey/2.4

The problem does not happen if I check the checkbox and enable the
feature.  Then, my UA string is
   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923 Firefox/7.0
   SeaMonkey/2.4

I am aging like a cheese and not like a wine.  That is, I am getting
sharper (not mentally in my attitude) and not mellower.  Thus, I want to
find cases of invalid sniffing and complain to Web site owners about it.

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 11:34:46 -0400, /Tom S./:


I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long while. I
thought eventually someone else would bring it up
and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?


SM continues to stop automatic popups.  I don't see a change in the 
behavior.



When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
extension disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent the
pop-ups from happening?


You may stop interacting with the page but I don't think that's much 
useful for you.  Unfortunately popups triggered from an interactive 
actions are not blocked, otherwise it would block all legitimate 
popups triggered explicitly by you.


You may however try to blocking somewhat more (than the default 
setup) or most popups with the Edit - Preferences: Browser / Link 
Behavior settings:


Open links meant to open a new window in:
  (x) The current tab/window

When scripts want to open a new window:
  (x) Always divert windows into tabs

The label for the later is somewhat confusing according the real 
preference documentation [1]:


| 0
| Divert all links according to browser.link.open_newwindow.
| This includes:
|   * All HTML links with target=_blank.
|   * All JavaScript calls to window.open().

That should mean no new windows/tabs could be created by web content 
- only explicitly by you (e.g. using Ctrl+N or Ctrl+T).


Using the default value for the second option with the changed value 
for the first would also block more but no all of the popups (see 
what fits bets for you):


Open links meant to open a new window in:
  (x) The current tab/window

When scripts want to open a new window:
  (x) Don't divert custom windows into tabs

The later really means:

| 2
| Divert all links according to browser.link.open_newwindow, unless
| the new window specifies how it should be displayed.
| This includes:
|   * All links with target=_blank.
|   * JavaScript calls to window.open() without the features
| parameter (3rd parameter).
| This does not include:
|   * JavaScript calls to window.open() with the features
| parameter (3rd parameter).

This will eliminate more of the new windows, unless opened by 
scripts with features parameter.


[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread Tom S.

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
 while. I thought eventually someone else
would bring it up and soon after, it would be
fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom
toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
happens on almost all websites that use
pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent
the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block
unrequested popup windows checked under your
Privacy and Security preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
 AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
problem with unrequested popups.



I double checked the preference setting, and it is
checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
popups. So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
worked back then.

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Validating bookmarks

2011-10-02 Thread Not@home
My earlier versions of SeaMonkey had a feature I could set to check a 
bookmark periodically to see if it remained valid.  That appears to be 
gone in 2.4 and 2.41.  I had a separate program that did the same thing, 
but it no longer works properly with the latest SeaMonkey. (AM Deadlink 
is the program; it will still check the bookmarks, but will no longer 
correct them).


Is there an efficient way to validate bookmarks.  I have about 2000 and 
doing it by hand is a lot of work.

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Re: Validating bookmarks

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:57:53 -0400, /Not@home/:


My earlier versions of SeaMonkey had a feature I could set to check
a bookmark periodically to see if it remained valid. That appears to
be gone in 2.4 and 2.41. I had a separate program that did the same
thing, but it no longer works properly with the latest SeaMonkey.
(AM Deadlink is the program; it will still check the bookmarks, but
will no longer correct them).

Is there an efficient way to validate bookmarks. I have about 2000
and doing it by hand is a lot of work.


Try:

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/checkplaces/

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Re: Validating bookmarks

2011-10-02 Thread Jens Hatlak

Not@home wrote:

Is there an efficient way to validate bookmarks. I have about 2000 and
doing it by hand is a lot of work.


https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/checkplaces/

HTH

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Why doesn't check for update tell me there's a new version

2011-10-02 Thread Otto Wyss
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.3.3 since I thought this was the newest version. Checking 
for updates doesn't show any new version, not even a hint. Yet there's already 
2.4.1 out. What's wrong?

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/2/11 8:34 AM, Tom S. wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.
 
 Here's something that's bugged me for a long while. I
 thought eventually someone else would bring it up
 and soon after, it would be fixed. Oh well.
 
 Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?
 
 When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
 assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
 exclamation point shows on the bottom toolbar. But
 then, if I should click anywhere on the page, the
 pop-up will open into a new tab, instead of
 remaining suppressed. This happens on almost all
 websites that use pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will
 use Flash for these pop-ups, but the Flashblock
 extension disables it, so it only shows the F
 button.)
 
 Is there anything I can change to prevent the
 pop-ups from happening?
 
 TIA.
 
 

Initially, popups (I almost typed poopups, which might be appropriate)
were separate Web pages launched by scripts in the page you wanted to
see.  Today, many popups are artifacts of CSS, Flash, or scripts
themselves (without launching anything).

If they are from Flash, I strongly recommend Flashblock at
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/.  I normally run with this enabled.  It
allows me to display a Flash presentation by clicking an icon on the
page containing Flash.

If you know a page uses JavaScript for a popup, you can disable
JavaScript.  I have the PrefBar extension (from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/67148/) installed
with a checkbox on the PrefBar toolbar for enabling and disabling
JavaScript.  It's very, very handy.  I normally run with JavaScript
enabled.  However, when SeaMonkey seems to be operating strangely, I
disable JavaScript; then, SeaMonkey usually returns to normal behavior.

Similarly, I also have a checkbox on the PrefBar toolbar for enabling
and disabling CSS.  While disabling CSS strips away almost all
formatting, a well-designed Web page should still have understandable
content.

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Re: Why doesn't check for update tell me there's a new version

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:24:50 +0200, /Otto Wyss/:


I'm using SeaMonkey 2.3.3 since I thought this was the newest
version. Checking for updates doesn't show any new version, not even
a hint. Yet there's already 2.4.1 out. What's wrong?


Open about:config, what does your app.update.channel (w/o the 
quotes) say?  (this information should be included with upcoming 
releases on the Help - About and Help - Troubleshooting 
Information pages)


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Why can one not copy from the Software Update window (was : Why doesn't check for update tell me there's a new version)

2011-10-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)


Otto Wyss wrote:


I'm using SeaMonkey 2.3.3 since I thought this was the newest version.
Checking for updates doesn't show any new version, not even a hint.
Yet there's already 2.4.1 out. What's wrong?


My Seamonkey 2.3.3, in invoking Check for updates says ...

nothing that can be copied and then pasted

W H Y   can I not copy text from the Software Update window,
and is the text therein accessible to screen readers ?

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When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Jane--Galt
I just got a new sub-release of SM - 2.4.1, which says it improves memory use 
and patches some things.

But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for people 
who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?

We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to open 
bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and wait each 
time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them that way.

Come on guys!

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Re: How can I get back the Most visited on my Bookmark toobar

2011-10-02 Thread Joseph Mueller

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Joseph Mueller wrote:

After upgrading to Seamonkey 2.4 I inadvertently deleted the new Most
Visited folder from my Bookmarks toolbar. Anyone know how I can get it
back?


about:config
browser.places.smartBookmarksVersion - 0
Restart

HTH

Jens


It worked like a charm!
Thanks Jens
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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Jane--Galt
Jane--Galt jane...@no-spam.ssz  wrote :

 I just got a new sub-release of SM - 2.4.1, which says it improves
 memory use and patches some things.
 
 But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for
 people who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?
 
 We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to
 open bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and
 wait each time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them that
 way. 
 
 Come on guys!
 
 

Oh, another thing to mention. While I'm typing words into the Google search 
box, I get double ghost images of the words. Is that SM doing this?

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Re: Still getting pop-ups

2011-10-02 Thread JD

Tom S. wrote:

WLS wrote:

Tom S. wrote:

Hello all,

I have SM 2.4.1 running on Win XP SP3.

Here's something that's bugged me for a long
while. I thought eventually someone else
would bring it up and soon after, it would be
fixed. Oh well.

Why is it SM no longer stops pop-ups?

When a page loads that has a pop-up, I have
assigned a pop sound and the highlighted
exclamation point shows on the bottom
toolbar. But then, if I should click anywhere
on the page, the pop-up will open into a new
tab, instead of remaining suppressed. This
happens on almost all websites that use
pop-ups. (Oftentimes, they will use Flash for
these pop-ups, but the Flashblock extension
disables it, so it only shows the F
button.)

Is there anything I can change to prevent
the pop-ups from happening?

TIA.




You do not state whether you have Block
unrequested popup windows checked under your
Privacy and Security preferences.

Are the offending popups Ads?

I don't have Flashblock installed, but do have
AdBlock Plus installed and never have a
problem with unrequested popups.



I double checked the preference setting, and it is
checked. However, I see in the disclaimer: Even
if blocked, websites may use other methods to show
popups. So, that may be what's happening.

I'm currently not using AdBlock Plus, which I
tried a long time ago, but didn't like the way it
worked back then.



Got any examples of pages that are giving you popups?

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Addon Manager pops up

2011-10-02 Thread JAS
I am using SM 2.4.1 on a Windows XP machine with the All American theme.
When I start SeaMonkey browser or go to the mail page the Addon Manager
pops up. This did not start right away as I have had the SM 2.4.1 for a
couple of days now and no problems but today it started occurring. I
have shut down SM and shutdown and rebooted. Also at times now emails do
not want to delete, nothing happens when I click on delete. Overall I am
happy with the new SM.

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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/2/2011 8:59 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:


I am aging like a cheese and not like a wine.  That is, I am getting
sharper (not mentally in my attitude) and not mellower.  Thus, I want to
find cases of invalid sniffing and complain to Web site owners about it.


How are your complaints to web sites doing? Do webmasters/web team 
actually fix this problem? Most of them don't for me with v2.0.14 and 
earlier. :(

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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/2/2011 7:06 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


I thought SeaMonkey v2.1+ uses Firefox user agent by default.


No, we don't use the Firefox UA by default, we use a *compat* ua, we
still do show SeaMonkey in there, but the way we do it has been known to
be accepted by many websites that do it wrong. Allstate may just be
doing it even worse.

/me defers testing himself until he catches up on the remaining mails in
this thread.


Oh wow. What does that default user agent look like? Darn, I thought 
Mozilla started using Firefox user agent. Bummer that we will still have 
this problem after v2.0.14 too. :(

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Re: Validating bookmarks

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/2/2011 9:57 AM PT, Not@home typed:


My earlier versions of SeaMonkey had a feature I could set to check a
bookmark periodically to see if it remained valid. That appears to be
gone in 2.4 and 2.41. I had a separate program that did the same thing,
but it no longer works properly with the latest SeaMonkey. (AM Deadlink
is the program; it will still check the bookmarks, but will no longer
correct them).

Is there an efficient way to validate bookmarks. I have about 2000 and
doing it by hand is a lot of work.


For me, I use Xenu in Windows since it handles .htm(l) files: 
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html ... I know versions after SM 
v2.0.14 no longer use HTML format, so I think you will have to export it 
as HTML before using it. It's every useful. It even tells me the 
redirected URLs.

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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/2/11 12:06 PM, Ant wrote:
 On 10/2/2011 8:59 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:
 
 I am aging like a cheese and not like a wine.  That is, I am getting
 sharper (not mentally in my attitude) and not mellower.  Thus, I want to
 find cases of invalid sniffing and complain to Web site owners about it.
 
 How are your complaints to web sites doing? Do webmasters/web team 
 actually fix this problem? Most of them don't for me with v2.0.14 and 
 earlier. :(

I do get some sites fixed.  Sometimes, it requires a non-technical
postal letter to the CEO of the company that owns the site.  I just wish
that other SeaMonkey users would bother to make similar complaints.

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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/2/11 12:05 PM, Ant wrote:
 On 10/2/2011 7:06 AM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:
 
 I thought SeaMonkey v2.1+ uses Firefox user agent by default.

 No, we don't use the Firefox UA by default, we use a *compat* ua, we
 still do show SeaMonkey in there, but the way we do it has been known to
 be accepted by many websites that do it wrong. Allstate may just be
 doing it even worse.

 /me defers testing himself until he catches up on the remaining mails in
 this thread.
 
 Oh wow. What does that default user agent look like? Darn, I thought 
 Mozilla started using Firefox user agent. Bummer that we will still have 
 this problem after v2.0.14 too. :(

With Advertise Firefox compatibility enabled -- the default setting --
the UA string is

   Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923 Firefox/7.0
   SeaMonkey/2.4

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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/2/2011 12:42 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


I thought SeaMonkey v2.1+ uses Firefox user agent by default.


No, we don't use the Firefox UA by default, we use a *compat* ua, we
still do show SeaMonkey in there, but the way we do it has been known to
be accepted by many websites that do it wrong. Allstate may just be
doing it even worse.

/me defers testing himself until he catches up on the remaining mails in
this thread.


Oh wow. What does that default user agent look like? Darn, I thought
Mozilla started using Firefox user agent. Bummer that we will still have
this problem after v2.0.14 too. :(


With Advertise Firefox compatibility enabled -- the default setting --
the UA string is

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923 Firefox/7.0
SeaMonkey/2.4


Interesting and thanks. :)
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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/2/2011 12:43 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


I do get some sites fixed.  Sometimes, it requires a non-technical
postal letter to the CEO of the company that owns the site.  I just wish
that other SeaMonkey users would bother to make similar complaints.


Bah, postal. So old and slow. I did it through e-mails and web forms. :)
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Re: search button inactiv in 2.4 version

2011-10-02 Thread denewton

M a écrit :

denewton wrote:

M a écrit :

NoOp wrote:

On 09/29/2011 11:43 PM, M wrote:

denewton wrote:

Hello,
With the last release 2.4 I downloaded, the search button, to get
diretly google, for exemple, is absolutly inactiv (on two machines
XP). I
reinstall 2.3.3 and it is running again.
What is brocken ?
sincerly
Bertrand


Just to confirm your problem. Google search button was also
inactive on
both my desktop and laptop. Also reverted back for same reason.
Thanks for posting I thought it may have been an OS problem

M


Just to confirm your problem, can you try restarting with add-ons
disabled and a test profile?



Thanks for the suggestion I'll see how I go when I download the latest
release 2.4.1

M

Hello,
in the 2.4.1 version, the button is running.
Sincerly
Bertrand



Thanks!
M

hello
I excuse my optimism : that don't run. If in personalisation of the 
tools bar, you choose and install the search button like firefox, the 
search button become active. Otherwise it don't run. That is probably 
one bug.

Bertrand
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Re: search button inactiv in 2.4 version

2011-10-02 Thread denewton

denewton a écrit :

Hello,
With the last release 2.4 I downloaded, the search button, to get
diretly google, for exemple, is absolutly inactiv (on two machines XP).
I reinstall 2.3.3 and it is running again.
What is brocken ?
sincerly
Bertrand

hello
The 2.4.1 version don't run also.
I excuse my optimism : that don't run. If in personalisation of the 
tools bar, you choose and install the search button like firefox, the 
search button become active. Otherwise it don't run. That is probably 
one bug.
I say that is one solution à la Dubout. (Dubout is an french designer 
humorous)

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Re: Validating bookmarks

2011-10-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/2/11 9:57 AM, Not@home wrote:
 My earlier versions of SeaMonkey had a feature I could set to check a 
 bookmark periodically to see if it remained valid.  That appears to be 
 gone in 2.4 and 2.41.  I had a separate program that did the same thing, 
 but it no longer works properly with the latest SeaMonkey. (AM Deadlink 
 is the program; it will still check the bookmarks, but will no longer 
 correct them).
 
 Is there an efficient way to validate bookmarks.  I have about 2000 and 
 doing it by hand is a lot of work.

Per the suggestions of Stamenkov and Hatlak, I installed the CheckPlaces
extension.  I like the way it works, finding bookmark problems but
giving me the option whether to delete a bad bookmark or (via the
Bookmarks Manager) allowing me to fix it.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:59:51 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:


Oh, another thing to mention. While I'm typing words into the Google search
box, I get double ghost images of the words. Is that SM doing this?


Please keep separate topics in separate threads.  Thanks.

No, it's not SM doing this.  It is the Google Search auto-complete:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blB_X38YSxQ

(the video is really just for fun)

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:50:27 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:


But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for people
who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?


Just to get some figures, how huge is your places.sqlite file?


We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to open
bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and wait each
time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them that way.


So invoking the Bookmarks Manager using Ctrl+B opens it faster than 
the Bookmarks menu?  Could it be some of your installed extensions 
interfering and blocking the UI?  Try starting with all add-ons 
disabled to see if it would make any difference: Help - Restart 
with Add-ons Disabled.


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Re: Sea 2.5 Beta 1 Issue or local problem?

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:08:37 -0400, /Justin Wood (Callek)/:


I just updated my local copy of SeaMonkey Beta to 2.5 Beta 1 from
2.4 Beta 3...

I then noticed that it was warning me about DOMi being 2.0.11pre and
not compat (a pre I can understand) which means I had run this
profile with a different newer SeaMonkey version at some point
[...]
Please Please let me know if any of you encounter a similar/same
issue. Since my brief check couldn't track it down, and its surely
something I need to care about for release if it was more than just
personal issues.


During my tests with previous alpha/beta versions I've hit the same 
issue at least couple of times, but I haven't paid enough attention 
on how I've made it there.


I've corrected the issue by creating a new profile with the new 
version, deleted extensions.* files in the other profile and copied 
the extensions/ directory from the new profile to the other profile.


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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-02 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj

Ant wrote:

Is anyone else getting a XML error with SM2.0.14's web browser's real
user agent on http://www.allstate.com/ ? It says:


  snip


I had to fake with Firefox v3.6.8 to get rid of the error. I don't know
if v2.1+ has this problem too since I have not upgraded yet. :P


Windows 7 Ultimate and SM 2.3.3 and
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) 
Gecko/20110902 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3

as copied from Help about SM

Appears to load page Ok. i.e. No error except that the page renders
with lots of text overlaying itself and such like.
Must be something in the way I have selected fonts preferences.

I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch
is.
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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Jane--Galt
Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net  wrote :

 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:50:27 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:
 
 But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for
 people who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?
 
 Just to get some figures, how huge is your places.sqlite file?

62 megs, but what's that got to do with bookmarks?

 We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to
 open bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and
 wait each time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them that
 way. 
 
 So invoking the Bookmarks Manager using Ctrl+B opens it faster than 
 the Bookmarks menu?

Yes, right away.

 Could it be some of your installed extensions 
 interfering and blocking the UI?

No, I did fresh installs with no extensions, just importing my BM's, and it 
still did it. I have few extensions. Just Tinyurl, I think.

  Try starting with all add-ons 
 disabled to see if it would make any difference: Help - Restart 
 with Add-ons Disabled.
 

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Re: Why doesn't check for update tell me there's a new version

2011-10-02 Thread Otto Wyss

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Openabout:config, what does your app.update.channel (w/o the
quotes) say?

It says release.

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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 16:45:25 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:

Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net  wrote :

Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:50:27 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:


But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for
people who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?


Just to get some figures, how huge is your places.sqlite file?


62 megs, but what's that got to do with bookmarks?


That's where your bookmarks (and browsing history) get stored, if 
you didn't know:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#Files

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Places.sqlite

The second article links to Locked or damaged places.sqlite 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Locked_or_damaged_places.sqlite which 
suggests a damaged places.sqlite may cause hangs.  You may further 
read:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_hangs#Places_database


We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to
open bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and
wait each time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them that
way.


So invoking the Bookmarks Manager using Ctrl+B opens it faster than
the Bookmarks menu?


Yes, right away.


Could it be some of your installed extensions
interfering and blocking the UI?


No, I did fresh installs with no extensions, just importing my BM's, and it
still did it. I have few extensions. Just Tinyurl, I think.


 Try starting with all add-ons
disabled to see if it would make any difference: Help - Restart
with Add-ons Disabled.


So did you try running in safe-mode or with add-ons disabled to see 
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Re: Is there an SM2.x extension that prompt user to send referers or not when requested?

2011-10-02 Thread Ant

On 10/2/2011 4:48 AM PT, Ant typed:


Kind of like cookies, prompt to allow or deny the cookies. So far, I
only found addons for Firefox. :(


Not sure if this is what you meant?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/requestpolicy/

Version 0.5.22
Released July 25, 2011
146.4 KB
Works with Mobile 0.1 - 1.0.*, SeaMonkey 2.0a - 2.7a1, Firefox 3.0 -
10.0a1


Hmm, looking at its description and https://www.requestpolicy.com/
doesn't say anything about referers (about:config's
network.http.sendRefererHeader for prompting me instead of on/off) so I
e-mailed its support. I wonder if this addon/extension works with the
newer versions of SM2 e.g., v2.4.1) when I do finally upgrade.


I got a reply from the developer, and he said it doesn't do what I want. :(
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Re: Addon Manager pops up

2011-10-02 Thread JAS
JAS wrote:
 I am using SM 2.4.1 on a Windows XP machine with the All American theme.
 When I start SeaMonkey browser or go to the mail page the Addon Manager
 pops up. This did not start right away as I have had the SM 2.4.1 for a
 couple of days now and no problems but today it started occurring. I
 have shut down SM and shutdown and rebooted. Also at times now emails do
 not want to delete, nothing happens when I click on delete. Overall I am
 happy with the new SM.

As an added info bit it has to be something in my profile but what I do
not know, I have another profile that has the same plugins and
extensions and it uses the default theme. I have have switched themes in
the profile that has the problem but to no avail. I deleted several
corrupt places.squite files but that had no effect either. Any ideas?

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Re: Why doesn't check for update tell me there's a new version

2011-10-02 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

Otto Wyss wrote:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.3.3 since I thought this was the newest version.
Checking for updates doesn't show any new version, not even a hint. Yet
there's already 2.4.1 out. What's wrong?


Ok, few things to try:

First and Most Likely.
* Help-Check For Updates.

If that does not return an update available:
* navigate your browser to about:config
* enter: app.update.log in the filter-box
* double click or right-click to Toggle setting the value to true.
* restart SeaMonkey (was needed for me)
* Do Help-Check for Updates again
* Open the Error Console (Tools-Web Developer-Error Console)
* Look for what UpdateURL SeaMonkey is using, and report back here (for 
example my own right now follows):
AUS:SVC Checker:getUpdateURL - update URL: 
https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/update/3/SeaMonkey/2.5/20110929211419/WINNT_x86-msvc/en-US/beta/Windows_NT%206.1/default/default/update.xml?force=1



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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Jane--Galt
Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net  wrote :

 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 16:45:25 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:
 Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net  wrote :
 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:50:27 -0500, /Jane--Galt/:

 But when, if ever, will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks problem, for
 people who keep huge bookmarks files of a few megs in size?

 Just to get some figures, how huge is your places.sqlite file?

 62 megs, but what's that got to do with bookmarks?
 
 That's where your bookmarks (and browsing history) get stored, if 
 you didn't know:

Oh. I've been a fan of Netscape browsers since around 1994 when I first got 
on the net - Navigator, which I suppose eventually evolved into Seamonkey 
in the nearest form to that original? I thought they resided in something 
called Bookmarks.html

 
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#Files
 
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Places.sqlite
 
 The second article links to Locked or damaged places.sqlite 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Locked_or_damaged_places.sqlite which 
 suggests a damaged places.sqlite may cause hangs.  You may further 
 read:
 
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_hangs#Places_database
 
 We've talked about this before here. When I click the menu button to
 open bookmarks, it does nothing, or I have to click several times and
 wait each time, until it finally loads, or use Ctrl-B to open them
 that way.

 So invoking the Bookmarks Manager using Ctrl+B opens it faster than
 the Bookmarks menu?

 Yes, right away.

 Could it be some of your installed extensions
 interfering and blocking the UI?

 No, I did fresh installs with no extensions, just importing my BM's,
 and it still did it. I have few extensions. Just Tinyurl, I think.

  Try starting with all add-ons
 disabled to see if it would make any difference: Help - Restart
 with Add-ons Disabled.
 
 So did you try running in safe-mode or with add-ons disabled to see 
 if it would make any difference?
 

Yes, it makes no difference.


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Re: Why can one not copy from the Software Update window (was : Why doesn't check for update tell me there's a new version)

2011-10-02 Thread NoOp
On 10/02/2011 10:38 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
 
 Otto Wyss wrote:
 
 I'm using SeaMonkey 2.3.3 since I thought this was the newest version.
 Checking for updates doesn't show any new version, not even a hint.
 Yet there's already 2.4.1 out. What's wrong?
 
 My Seamonkey 2.3.3, in invoking Check for updates says ...
 
   nothing that can be copied and then pasted
 
 W H Y   can I not copy text from the Software Update window,

Actually I think this is an excellent question. File a bug report as
this is most likely the only way it will probably be answered.

 and is the text therein accessible to screen readers ?

Install Orca  check for yourself?

 
 Philip Taylor


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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 03/10/2011 00:35, Jane--Galt told the world:

 Oh. I've been a fan of Netscape browsers since around 1994 when I first got 
 on the net - Navigator, which I suppose eventually evolved into Seamonkey 
 in the nearest form to that original? I thought they resided in something 
 called Bookmarks.html

They used to... up to Seamonkey 2.0.x. The big thing in Seamonkey 2.1
was exactly introducing the new database-based Places system, which
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Re: When will they fix the sluggish Bookmarks in SM?

2011-10-02 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:35:31 -0500, Jane--Galt wrote:
 Stanimir Stamenkov s7a...@netscape.net  wrote :

 So did you try running in safe-mode or with add-ons disabled to see 
 if it would make any difference?
 
 Yes, it makes no difference.

Can you try installing and running this extension?

http://www.andyhalford.com/checkplaces/

CheckPlaces is a Firefox/SeaMonkey extension that allows you to check
your bookmarks in different ways. There is a basic check of your
bookmarks, and optional checks that the pages still exist, duplicate
bookmarks, and empty folders. You can also use it to restore favicons
that have gone missing, and compact and check the integrity of the
Places database.

=

Try compacting and checking the integrity of your Places database.

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