Re: Things have got worse...

2011-10-13 Thread Daniel

WLS wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 10/12/2011 12:05 AM PT, Dustbin typed:


FireFox is now presuming to bypass my firewall without asking
permission
to access the internet. WHat is worse, is that it does not appear in
the
list of programmes so that I can set whether it has permission or not.

In order to protect myself it may be necessary to stop using FireFox
altogether.

Is everything at mozilla going pear-shaped?


Wrong newsgroup? :(


And, Ant, Dustbin should have posted to ???



See Jay's reply to dustbin. :)



Oh! WLS, I know where Dustbin should have posted. I was just trying to 
get Ant to post a more complete answer.


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32 and 64 bits

2011-10-13 Thread Gertjan

Can I use a 64bit .profile on a 32bit Machine
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Re: 32 and 64 bits

2011-10-13 Thread gertjan . vinkesteijn

Gertjan wrote:

Can I use a 64bit .profile on a 32bit Machine

it hasn't meant to be rhetoric...

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Re: 32 and 64 bits

2011-10-13 Thread gertjan . vinkesteijn

gertjan.vinkeste...@gmail.com wrote:

Gertjan wrote:

Can I use a 64bit .profile on a 32bit Machine

it hasn't meant to be rhetoric...


tres mail, 3 times is shipwreckage

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Re: Things have got worse...

2011-10-13 Thread Dustbin

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Dustbin wrote:

FireFox is now presuming to bypass my firewall without asking
permission to access the internet. WHat is worse, is that it does not
appear in the list of programmes so that I can set whether it has
permission or not.

In order to protect myself it may be necessary to stop using FireFox
altogether.

Is everything at mozilla going pear-shaped?


I am no apologist for Seamonkey/Firefox/Mozilla/etc, but ...

if a program /can/ bypass your firewall without asking permission,
and without your granting permission, then it is not so much a firewall
as a placebo, and should be upgraded/updated/replaced immediately.

Usually teh way this happens is the install grants itself permission. I 
then have deny it permission explicitly. I am not happy about teh way 
the firewall (ZoneAlarm) allows this. But I found a few days ago that FF 
got through and when I went to the appropriate page in the FireWall to 
reset it; it was not set! That is why the question arose.


D.


Philip Taylor


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Re: Things have got worse...

2011-10-13 Thread Dustbin

WLS wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 11-10-12 3:05 AM, Dustbin wrote:

FireFox is now presuming to bypass my firewall without asking permission
to access the internet. WHat is worse, is that it does not appear in the
list of programmes so that I can set whether it has permission or not.

In order to protect myself it may be necessary to stop using FireFox
altogether.

Is everything at mozilla going pear-shaped?


[@ everyone else: if you look at Dustbin's user-agent string, you'll see
that he's using SeaMonkey 2.0.14 on Windows Vista, so directing him/her
to a Firefox newsgroup is incorrect.]

@ Dustbin,
SeaMonkey and Firefox are two separate products, and according to your
headers, you are using SeaMonkey. Neither are designed to bypass
firewalls. If your firewall is doing its job, that should not even be
possible. In the program list, look for SeaMonkey not Firefox.



I guess I will have to start doing that, since this is the worst example
yet of a user not knowing what the hell they are using. So yes, things
have got worse :)


I do know the difference between FF and SM even if I have posted to the 
wrong group. I use FF for one thing and SM for something else: mail; 
general browsing and newsgroups.


D.



I'm still trying to find Firefox 7.01 so I can test it.



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Re: Things have got worse...

2011-10-13 Thread Dustbin

wr wrote:

On Oct 12, 3:05 am, Dustbindustbin_addr...@blueyonder.co.uk  wrote:

FireFox is now presuming to bypass my firewall without asking permission
to access the internet. WHat is worse, is that it does not appear in the
list of programmes so that I can set whether it has permission or not.

In order to protect myself it may be necessary to stop using FireFox
altogether.

Is everything at mozilla going pear-shaped?

D.


Which firewall are you using?


ZoneAlarm.

D.
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Re: Things have got worse...

2011-10-13 Thread Dustbin

WLS wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 10/12/2011 04:29 PM, WLS wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 10/12/2011 04:05 PM, WLS wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 11-10-12 3:05 AM, Dustbin wrote:

FireFox is now presuming to bypass my firewall without asking
permission
to access the internet. WHat is worse, is that it does not appear
in the
list of programmes so that I can set whether it has permission or
not.

In order to protect myself it may be necessary to stop using FireFox
altogether.

Is everything at mozilla going pear-shaped?


[@ everyone else: if you look at Dustbin's user-agent string,
you'll see
that he's using SeaMonkey 2.0.14 on Windows Vista, so directing
him/her
to a Firefox newsgroup is incorrect.]

@ Dustbin,
SeaMonkey and Firefox are two separate products, and according to
your
headers, you are using SeaMonkey. Neither are designed to bypass
firewalls. If your firewall is doing its job, that should not even be
possible. In the program list, look for SeaMonkey not Firefox.



I guess I will have to start doing that, since this is the worst
example
yet of a user not knowing what the hell they are using. So yes, things
have got worse :)

I'm still trying to find Firefox 7.01 so I can test it.



Blink.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html



Gotcha! You are one of the users that don't know your versions.


Actually I do.



I have Firefox 7.0.1 installed. I'm looking for the one that people call
7.01, when they ask for support.



Is there somewhere in this thread that referred to 7.01 other than
yourself? I figured that you'd entered the 'typo zone' and simply
pointed you to the downloads for FF 7.0.1.




What was posted on this thread was a question about FireFox (incorrect
spelling btw) in the SeaMonkey support newsgroup. It was pointed out
that this was a SeaMonkey support newsgroup and the question should be
directed to the mozilla.support.firefox group.

Then we were informed that if we had looked at the user agent, we would
have noticed the user was using SeaMonkey, and directing them to the
Firefox support group was the wrong thing to do, so I guess we are
supposed to offer support here. Also don't forget to look at the user
agent before posting any replies from this point forward.

Personally, I don't think the OP is that stupid to not know whether they
are asking a question about Firefox or not.

As often as it is done, I also don't believe that identifying a version
x,yz instead of x.y.z is a result of a typo, laziness maybe.

Whatever program and version dustbin is using I hope the problem is
resolved.



I use SM for posting. Whoever criticised me for posting to the wrong 
group was probably right. The question was about FF even though SM was 
used to post the question.


D.
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Re: Things have got worse...

2011-10-13 Thread WLS

Dustbin wrote:

WLS wrote:

NoOp wrote:


snipped



What was posted on this thread was a question about FireFox (incorrect
spelling btw) in the SeaMonkey support newsgroup. It was pointed out
that this was a SeaMonkey support newsgroup and the question should be
directed to the mozilla.support.firefox group.

Then we were informed that if we had looked at the user agent, we would
have noticed the user was using SeaMonkey, and directing them to the
Firefox support group was the wrong thing to do, so I guess we are
supposed to offer support here. Also don't forget to look at the user
agent before posting any replies from this point forward.

Personally, I don't think the OP is that stupid to not know whether they
are asking a question about Firefox or not.

As often as it is done, I also don't believe that identifying a version
x,yz instead of x.y.z is a result of a typo, laziness maybe.

Whatever program and version dustbin is using I hope the problem is
resolved.



I use SM for posting. Whoever criticised me for posting to the wrong
group was probably right. The question was about FF even though SM was
used to post the question.

D.


I also use SeaMonkey for email and newsgroup posting, and Firefox for 
browsing, and figured you were asking about Firefox.


Cheers!

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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-13 Thread sean nathan bean

David E. Ross sent me the following::

On 10/12/11 2:57 PM, sean nathan bean wrote:

Gertjan sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Ant wrote:


Snip



I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch
is.


Edit-Preferences-Advanced-HTTP Networking.

HTH



sorta useless until there's a way to quit advertizing
compatibility of
Firefox 2.0

sean




To quit advertizing compatibility of Firefox 2.0 simply untick the
spot on the HTTP Networking page.

QED!



well duh... guess i need to be more specific... why does SM still
advertize compatibility of Firefox 2.0 ... when Firefox is now at
version 6,7 or 8?

to date i haven't found an about:config entry to advertize the latest
Firefox versions... as opposed to the ancient versions...

iiuc,

sean





your seamonkey advertizes Firefox/7.0 :
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110922 Firefox/7.0
SeaMonkey/2.4




sorry all... my old eyes... misreading 7

plus confusion as i attempt to install certain addons which have given
me an error which reads this isn't available for firefox 2.x

sean




You are a victim of bug #671085.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671085.

Effectively, a user agent string in the form of
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923
Firefox/7.0 SeaMonkey/2.4
is parsed by the addons.mozilla.org server as if your browser were
Firefox 2.4.  As I recall, this problem was forecast when it was decided
to add the advertise Firefox compatibility feature to SeaMonkey, but
that forecast was pooh-poohed.

This is why I disabled advertise Firefox compatibility.  I use
PrefBar's User Agent capability when I need to spoof a browser other
than SeaMonkey.



i knew it... see i'm not losing my mind... even as much as i'd like to 
some days...


sean


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doan laf!!!

2011-10-13 Thread km

... i am just starting to build a mail client. very basic.
i had a script for sending  to a client (hard wired in_
and that works fine but now i want to ad a very basic address
book. any suggestions? downloads are fine
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Seamonkey cannot display https sites while IE and Chrome can

2011-10-13 Thread Dimitris
Hello there,

I have this problem at work where I use Seamonkey (v2.0.14) or Firefox (v6) to 
access the internet through a proxy. Https sites are not displayed properly 
while I continuously have to add exceptions for the certificates that are not 
considered valid. At the same time IE and Chrome have no trouble working with 
the same sites and never complain about invalid certificates.

How can I fix this? Are there any changes I can make to the Seamonkey 
configurations? Is this a problem with the proxy?

Thanks

Dimitris


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Update fail!

2011-10-13 Thread John Cunniff

Hello, Everybody,

I tried to check for update under Help menu, I'm in SeaMonkey 2.2. I got 
an error:


Something tricked into accepting an update in your insecure update. 
Please contact your network provider and seek help.


I don't understand this error.

Can anyone of you help me with it? My previous update from 2.0. to 2.2 
was successful at the same method.


Thank you.

Johnny :)
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Re: Update fail!

2011-10-13 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty

John Cunniff wrote:

I tried to check for update under Help menu, I'm in SeaMonkey 2.2. I got
an error:

Something tricked into accepting an update in your insecure update.
Please contact your network provider and seek help.

I don't understand this error.


I don't, either. Are you using a non-English version?  ..because that 
first sentence of your error message is not proper grammar. Did you 
translate from another language?


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Incidental info

2011-10-13 Thread Keith Whaley

I have an iMac using OS 10.6.8

I just moved from SeaMonkey 2.0.14 to 2.4.1. In one fell swoop.

I felt it was a risk on my part, but...it was totally trouble free and 
without problems. I think it important that everybody knows that.


The windows seem 'crisper', brighter and load in seconds. Frequently as 
little as TWO. Big change.


I feel I owe those who compiled this version and did such a super job, 
and I wanted to thank them publicly.


Thanks, guys!!!

keith whaley
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Re: Update fail!

2011-10-13 Thread John Cunniff

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

John Cunniff wrote:

I tried to check for update under Help menu, I'm in SeaMonkey 2.2. I got
an error:

Something tricked into accepting an update in your insecure update.
Please contact your network provider and seek help.

I don't understand this error.


I don't, either. Are you using a non-English version? ..because that
first sentence of your error message is not proper grammar. Did you
translate from another language?

I am using English version... No, I didn't tranlate anything. I am 
Profoundly Deaf and low vision [almost full blind especially to the left 
eye.]


But, I'll put up an image of this soon for you to see that.

Johnny :)
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Re: Update fail!

2011-10-13 Thread John Cunniff

John Cunniff wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

John Cunniff wrote:

I tried to check for update under Help menu, I'm in SeaMonkey 2.2. I got
an error:

Something tricked into accepting an update in your insecure update.
Please contact your network provider and seek help.

I don't understand this error.


I don't, either. Are you using a non-English version? ..because that
first sentence of your error message is not proper grammar. Did you
translate from another language?


I am using English version... No, I didn't tranlate anything. I am
Profoundly Deaf and low vision [almost full blind especially to the left
eye.]

But, I'll put up an image of this soon for you to see that.

Johnny :)

Ok, here it is:

http://www.shellworld.net/~johnc/temp/seamonkey_error.bmp

Let me know!

Thanks,
Johnny :)
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Re: Update fail!

2011-10-13 Thread WLS

John Cunniff wrote:

John Cunniff wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

John Cunniff wrote:

I tried to check for update under Help menu, I'm in SeaMonkey 2.2. I
got
an error:

Something tricked into accepting an update in your insecure update.
Please contact your network provider and seek help.

I don't understand this error.


I don't, either. Are you using a non-English version? ..because that
first sentence of your error message is not proper grammar. Did you
translate from another language?


I am using English version... No, I didn't tranlate anything. I am
Profoundly Deaf and low vision [almost full blind especially to the left
eye.]

But, I'll put up an image of this soon for you to see that.

Johnny :)

Ok, here it is:

http://www.shellworld.net/~johnc/temp/seamonkey_error.bmp

Let me know!

Thanks,
Johnny :)


Sounds like this Firefox bug.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653830

More Information here.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Software_update

Software Update problems can sometimes be resolved by simply restarting 
the computer and then reopening your Mozilla application. Other update 
problems can be fixed by downloading the latest version of Firefox, 
Thunderbird, or SeaMonkey and installing the new version on top of 
your current version.


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Trying to Attach a file to a Reply crashes 2.5

2011-10-13 Thread Arnie Goetchius
If I'm reply to an email where I include an attachment, 2.5 crashes.
Just clicking on the Attach icon, cause SM to stop. I eventually get a
message do I want to send the error report to Microsoft. No problem
with 2.0.??

Win XP3
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