Re: Seamonkey NewsGroup Support

2011-10-19 Thread PhillipJones 

WLS wrote:

BeeJ wrote:

no not crossposting.
Not posts but the groups are duplicated twice under each server. i.e. I
have four of the same groups under the two servers. I have 8 unique
groups that are now there 4x2= 32 times.
And as I said it kept trying to download messages over and over when I
clicked on a group under any server.
This is a new PC (one month old) and has no other problems running a
bunch of apps.
Win7 Pro 64bit. AMD Quad. 8G-RAM. Lots of C: space.




My solution would be to unsubscribe from the newsgroups, then subscribe
again only once. If that fails I would delete the Newsgroup account and
recreate it.

But I think the only way you are going to find out is to install
SeaMonkey and see if it works for you.



The only time I see duplicate groups is in Usenet servers I have the 
same group (deliberately) listed on two Usenet servers. Other than That 
I have no duplicate groups.


I even have two groups on a news server which has to authenticated 
(never see the first piece of spam and I've been subscribed to this 
group for 10 years. To be authenticated you have to go to a Web site 
first answer some questions they do background checks on your ISP Then 
then send s special link where you give them a User name and password. 
They send notice its accepted. Then you can sign in using username first 
then password.


SeaMonkey is very good with newsgroups.



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Re: Custom Buttons is Not available for SeaMonkey 2.4.1

2011-10-19 Thread Joe32065 

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Joe32065 wrote:

Custom Buttons is Not available for SeaMonkey 2.4.1 Is there a trick to
get it to work?


Install this:



Then install the latest version of Custom Buttons.

HTH

Jens

Thanks Jens, that worked.  Sorry I forgot to say it was for windows 7 
32bit.  Page link 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/custom-buttons/

It even remembered the custom button that had disappeared when I upgraded.
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Re: Seamonkey NewsGroup Support

2011-10-19 Thread Paul 

BeeJ wrote:
Before I waste my time with SeaMonkey, has anyone set up multiple 
NewsGroups on SeaMonkey?

Does it all play correctly?

I tried with Thunderbird (latest download) on Win7Pro 64 and it mangled 
everything newsgroup related.

I loaded one newsgroup account and that seemed to play OK.
Then I loaded a second different newsgroup account and everything fell 
abore, newsgroupwise.

Both newsgroups displayed as the same newsgroup name AND server.
Going into accounts showed that too.
Then I notice that every newslist item was duplicated in both accounts.
And then it started asking if I wanted to download all the duplicates 
and the "new" newsgroup.  Very strange.
After it all settle down, I tried to look at a newslist item and it 
started to ask about downloading it ALL again.  Yikes!

I just quit it and am about to delete Thunderbird.
Anyone else had similar experience?


I have never had those problems with SM.
I use multiple NG servers/accts and many NG's.
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Re: Where is icon "Show Remote Content"?

2011-10-19 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
WLS wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> WLS wrote:
>>> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 WLS wrote:
> Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>> SM 2.5 XP SP3
>>
>> In SM 2.0.14 for some email messages, I would get an icon that said
>> "Show Remote Content". I don't get that in 2.5 when receiving a
>> message
>> from bank, credit card, etc. In Mail&Newsgroup "Message Display" I
>> have
>> tried checking and un-checking "Block Images ..." but still don't see
>> "Show Remote Content". This worked in SM 2.0.14. Anything else I need
>> to do?
>
> Are you using the SM 2.0.14 profile? If so then you have already
> configured SM 2.5 to "Show Remote Content", unless it is a new email
> that hasn't been approved.

 Yes, I used the 2.0.14 profile. This is a monthly email that showed
 remote content under 2.0.14 but does not show under 2.5. Anything in
 about:config that I can tweak?
>
>>>
>>> Have you added the Address to your Address Book? If so try deleting it
>>> and then add it back.
>>>
>>>
>> Tried that and still the same. Added email address of sender to
>>
>> First:
>> Display:
>> email:
>>
>> Is that right?
> 
> Most likely.
> 
> And in my SM 2.5 there is a check box to tick that says Allow remote
> content, next to Prefers to receive messages...
> 
> I believe if it is an email from a new address with remote content a
> button should show up the first time you receive it. Don't know why it
> didn't for you.
> 
> I could try installing 2.6, or 2.7, or both, and see what happens.
> 
Turned off AVG but no help. Upon further investigation, the emails in
question don't even display in HTML, just straight text with many URL's.
In 2.0.14, the emails display in HTML and the "Allow Remote Content"
icon does show up. In 2.5, all I see is text, no HTML so I figure I have
to get that fixed first. Any ideas?
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Re: Seamonkey NewsGroup Support

2011-10-19 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty 

BeeJ wrote:

no not crossposting.
Not posts but the groups are duplicated twice under each server. i.e. I
have four of the same groups under the two servers. I have 8 unique
groups that are now there 4x2= 32 times.
And as I said it kept trying to download messages over and over when I
clicked on a group under any server.


If you set up accounts at multiple news servers that carry the same 
groups, you will see the group names listed once for each server. That 
is normal. You should, however, only subscribe to one occurrence of the 
groups you want to read.


From your description so far, I don't see a problem.

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Re: Seamonkey NewsGroup Support

2011-10-19 Thread WLS 

BeeJ wrote:

no not crossposting.
Not posts but the groups are duplicated twice under each server. i.e. I
have four of the same groups under the two servers. I have 8 unique
groups that are now there 4x2= 32 times.
And as I said it kept trying to download messages over and over when I
clicked on a group under any server.
This is a new PC (one month old) and has no other problems running a
bunch of apps.
Win7 Pro 64bit. AMD Quad. 8G-RAM. Lots of C: space.




My solution would be to unsubscribe from the newsgroups, then subscribe 
again only once. If that fails I would delete the Newsgroup account and 
recreate it.


But I think the only way you are going to find out is to install 
SeaMonkey and see if it works for you.


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Re: Seamonkey NewsGroup Support

2011-10-19 Thread chicagofan 

BeeJ wrote:

no not crossposting.
Not posts but the groups are duplicated twice under each server.  i.e.
I have four of the same groups under the two servers.  I have 8 unique
groups that are now there 4x2= 32 times.
And as I said it kept trying to download messages over and over when I
clicked on a group under any server.
This is a new PC (one month old) and has no other problems running a
bunch of apps.
Win7 Pro 64bit. AMD Quad. 8G-RAM. Lots of C: space.


   

Who are the news servers you are using?

I've never seen this in SM, by the way.
bj
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Re: Seamonkey NewsGroup Support

2011-10-19 Thread BeeJ 

no not crossposting.
Not posts but the groups are duplicated twice under each server.  i.e. 
I have four of the same groups under the two servers.  I have 8 unique 
groups that are now there 4x2= 32 times.
And as I said it kept trying to download messages over and over when I 
clicked on a group under any server.
This is a new PC (one month old) and has no other problems running a 
bunch of apps.

Win7 Pro 64bit. AMD Quad. 8G-RAM. Lots of C: space.


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Re: Seamonkey NewsGroup Support

2011-10-19 Thread WLS 

BeeJ wrote:

Before I waste my time with SeaMonkey, has anyone set up multiple
NewsGroups on SeaMonkey?
Does it all play correctly?

I tried with Thunderbird (latest download) on Win7Pro 64 and it mangled
everything newsgroup related.
I loaded one newsgroup account and that seemed to play OK.
Then I loaded a second different newsgroup account and everything fell
abore, newsgroupwise.
Both newsgroups displayed as the same newsgroup name AND server.
Going into accounts showed that too.
Then I notice that every newslist item was duplicated in both accounts.
And then it started asking if I wanted to download all the duplicates
and the "new" newsgroup. Very strange.
After it all settle down, I tried to look at a newslist item and it
started to ask about downloading it ALL again. Yikes!
I just quit it and am about to delete Thunderbird.
Anyone else had similar experience?




A little more detail might help, but no I haven't experienced that behavior.

I have an account for mozilla newsgroups, and a giganews account, and 
they never mix posts.


Are you referring to crossposts?

Crossposting is the act of posting the same message to multiple 
information channels


https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Crossposting

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Re: Seamonkey NewsGroup Support

2011-10-19 Thread NoOp 
On 10/19/2011 04:22 PM, BeeJ wrote:
> Before I waste my time with SeaMonkey, has anyone set up multiple 
> NewsGroups on SeaMonkey?
> Does it all play correctly?
> 
> I tried with Thunderbird (latest download) on Win7Pro 64 and it mangled 
> everything newsgroup related.
> I loaded one newsgroup account and that seemed to play OK.
> Then I loaded a second different newsgroup account and everything fell 
> abore, newsgroupwise.
> Both newsgroups displayed as the same newsgroup name AND server.
> Going into accounts showed that too.
> Then I notice that every newslist item was duplicated in both accounts.
> And then it started asking if I wanted to download all the duplicates 
> and the "new" newsgroup.  Very strange.
> After it all settle down, I tried to look at a newslist item and it 
> started to ask about downloading it ALL again.  Yikes!
> I just quit it and am about to delete Thunderbird.
> Anyone else had similar experience?
> 
> 

Last I checked I've 5 news different server accounts & about 80
newsgroups amongst those.  Works for me.

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Seamonkey NewsGroup Support

2011-10-19 Thread BeeJ 
Before I waste my time with SeaMonkey, has anyone set up multiple 
NewsGroups on SeaMonkey?

Does it all play correctly?

I tried with Thunderbird (latest download) on Win7Pro 64 and it mangled 
everything newsgroup related.

I loaded one newsgroup account and that seemed to play OK.
Then I loaded a second different newsgroup account and everything fell 
abore, newsgroupwise.

Both newsgroups displayed as the same newsgroup name AND server.
Going into accounts showed that too.
Then I notice that every newslist item was duplicated in both accounts.
And then it started asking if I wanted to download all the duplicates 
and the "new" newsgroup.  Very strange.
After it all settle down, I tried to look at a newslist item and it 
started to ask about downloading it ALL again.  Yikes!

I just quit it and am about to delete Thunderbird.
Anyone else had similar experience?


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Re: View Headers All

2011-10-19 Thread Latasha23Huber 
I guess that to receive the http://goodfinance-blog.com/topics/home-loans";>home loans from banks 
you should have a good reason. But, one time I've received a short term loan, 
because I was willing to buy a house. 


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Re: No Accept-Charset in current betas

2011-10-19 Thread NoOp 
On 10/19/2011 01:45 PM, Jochen Roderburg wrote:
> On 2011-10-19, Jens Hatlak  wrote:
>> Jochen Roderburg wrote:
>>> The current beta versions of our Mozilla applications (Firefox 8 / Seamonkey
>>> 2.5) do not send the HTTP Accept-Charset header any longer.
>>> This confuses e.g. our Webmail system (Horde/IMP) which uses this header (if
>>> available) to determine if the browser can handle UTF-8.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know if there is a rationale behind this change
>>> or is this perhaps "just a plain bug"?
>>
>> AFAICS it was removed because it allows fingerprinting, and is not 
>> supported by IE (or all other browsers?). Please note that I did nothing 
>> more than read the initial comment of the following bug; please have a 
>> read yourself for more information. Please also note that this was a 
>> platform change, i.e. nothing was changed for SM in particular but all 
>> Gecko-based applications.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Thanks for the pointer, I'll have a look at it.
> 
> Strange, that I didn't find this by searching for Accept-Charset in
> Bugzilla.
> 
> J.Roderburg

Interesting results from different browsers (linux):
http://www.delorie.com:81/some/url.txt

SeaMonkey:
GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1
Host: www.delorie.com:81
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111012
Firefox/8.0 SeaMonkey/2.5 Lightning/1.0b8pre
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
DNT: 1
Connection: keep-alive

Chromium:
GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1
Host: www.delorie.com:81
Connection: keep-alive
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.1 (KHTML, like
Gecko) Ubuntu/10.10 Chromium/14.0.835.202 Chrome/14.0.835.202 Safari/535.1
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.3

Google Chrome:
GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1
Host: www.delorie.com:81
Connection: keep-alive
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.1 (KHTML, like
Gecko) Chrome/14.0.835.202 Safari/535.1
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate,sdch
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.8
Accept-Charset: UTF-8,*;q=0.5

Opera:
GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.9.168 Version/11.52
Host: www.delorie.com:81
Accept: text/html, application/xml;q=0.9, application/xhtml+xml,
image/png, image/webp, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, */*;q=0.1
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.9
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Connection: Keep-Alive

Firefox:
GET /some/url.txt HTTP/1.1
Host: www.delorie.com:81
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/7.0.1
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Connection: keep-alive

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Re: No Accept-Charset in current betas

2011-10-19 Thread Jochen Roderburg 
On 2011-10-19, Jens Hatlak  wrote:
> Jochen Roderburg wrote:
>> The current beta versions of our Mozilla applications (Firefox 8 / Seamonkey
>> 2.5) do not send the HTTP Accept-Charset header any longer.
>> This confuses e.g. our Webmail system (Horde/IMP) which uses this header (if
>> available) to determine if the browser can handle UTF-8.
>>
>> Does anybody know if there is a rationale behind this change
>> or is this perhaps "just a plain bug"?
>
> AFAICS it was removed because it allows fingerprinting, and is not 
> supported by IE (or all other browsers?). Please note that I did nothing 
> more than read the initial comment of the following bug; please have a 
> read yourself for more information. Please also note that this was a 
> platform change, i.e. nothing was changed for SM in particular but all 
> Gecko-based applications.
>
>
>

Thanks for the pointer, I'll have a look at it.

Strange, that I didn't find this by searching for Accept-Charset in
Bugzilla.

J.Roderburg
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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-19 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj 

Rickles wrote:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.

Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. I'd
never seen it before, until today.

Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but
today the house was empty all day & I was the first home. Turned PC on
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.

Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps
completed, and opened SM Mail. It opened, downloaded 3 short text
messages. The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message
could be deleted. So I did, or thought so, anyway.

Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox. Checked Deleted folder,
empty. Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any
content--thread & message panes were both blank. Assumed some background
process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 99% system
idle time, and there was no network traffic.

No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network.
I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then closed
the SM Mail window (browser never open). Verified seamonkey.exe process
was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same message
again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.

Suggestions?


You must allow your hard working SM program to take a coffee break.
As you know that since the start of the rapid release policy
the program hasn't had a chance to stop to draw a decent breath.

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Re: No Accept-Charset in current betas

2011-10-19 Thread Jens Hatlak 

Jochen Roderburg wrote:

The current beta versions of our Mozilla applications (Firefox 8 / Seamonkey
2.5) do not send the HTTP Accept-Charset header any longer.
This confuses e.g. our Webmail system (Horde/IMP) which uses this header (if
available) to determine if the browser can handle UTF-8.

Does anybody know if there is a rationale behind this change
or is this perhaps "just a plain bug"?


AFAICS it was removed because it allows fingerprinting, and is not 
supported by IE (or all other browsers?). Please note that I did nothing 
more than read the initial comment of the following bug; please have a 
read yourself for more information. Please also note that this was a 
platform change, i.e. nothing was changed for SM in particular but all 
Gecko-based applications.




HTH

Jens

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No Accept-Charset in current betas

2011-10-19 Thread Jochen Roderburg 
The current beta versions of our Mozilla applications (Firefox 8 / Seamonkey
2.5) do not send the HTTP Accept-Charset header any longer.
This confuses e.g. our Webmail system (Horde/IMP) which uses this header (if
available) to determine if the browser can handle UTF-8.

Does anybody know if there is a rationale behind this change
or is this perhaps "just a plain bug"?

Jochen Roderburg
RRZK
University of Cologne
Robert-Koch-Str. 10Tel.:   +49-221/478-7024
D-50931 Koeln  E-Mail: roderb...@uni-koeln.de
Germany
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More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

2011-10-19 Thread Rickles 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110928 Firefox/7.0.1 
SeaMonkey/2.4.1.


Others have complained about SM appearing to hang, or at least take a 
ridiculously long time to do something as simple as delete an email. 
I'd never seen it before, until today.


Normally the PC's been on most of the day while I've been at work, but 
today the house was empty all day & I was the first home.  Turned PC on 
and left it un-logged in for approx. an hour.


Logged in, waited for systray icons to all appear showing all 'run' apps 
completed, and opened SM Mail.  It opened, downloaded 3 short text 
messages.  The wife read one message over my shoulder, said that message 
could be deleted.  So I did, or thought so, anyway.


Pressed delete key but message stayed in Inbox.  Checked Deleted folder, 
empty.  Went back to Inbox, but only Folder pane showed any 
content--thread & message panes were both blank.  Assumed some 
background process was taking up processor time, but Task Manager showed 
99% system idle time, and there was no network traffic.


No background CPU takeover, no scheduled tasks running, no busy network. 
 I left it ticking over for a full 5 minutes without change, then 
closed the SM Mail window (browser never open).  Verified seamonkey.exe 
process was absent from Task Manager and re-opened Mail--deleted same 
message again and it worked perfectly, and for everything after that.


Suggestions?
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Re: opening links in new windows

2011-10-19 Thread Jannie20Jacobs 
Set your own life time more simple take the http://goodfinance-blog.com/topics/personal-loans";>personal loans and 
all you require. 


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Re: Custom Buttons is Not available for SeaMonkey 2.4.1

2011-10-19 Thread Jens Hatlak 

Joe32065 wrote:

Custom Buttons is Not available for SeaMonkey 2.4.1 Is there a trick to
get it to work?


Install this:



Then install the latest version of Custom Buttons.

HTH

Jens

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problems with some php web sites

2011-10-19 Thread LMH 
Lately I have had a number of problems with websites and I have no way 
of telling if the issue is with the site or browser.


With this forum,
http://www.unix.com/programming/

I am able to log into my account, but when I go to a page to create a 
post, none of the php tools work (text color, bold, etc). When I move 
the mouse over the different buttons, I get tool tips saying what the 
button does, but it acts like it is not there when I try to click on it. 
Also, if I type in a message and click on preview or submit, the new 
screen that comes up says the message I entered is too short and all of 
the text I entered is gone.


Is there some keyboard shortcut I could have hit by accident to togel 
between plain text and php mode, or something like that. I have cleared 
my cache, cookies, and such, run CCleaner, restated and all that.


I have a similar problem with this site,
http://www.daniweb.com/software-development/shell-scripting/113

When I make a post there, all of the php tools also don't work, but I 
can preview and submit the post. I can't think of anything that would 
cause an issue like this that would not be resolved by clearing cache 
and cookies.


I am running a firewall (ZoneAlarm ISS), but nothing changes if I turn 
it off. Any suggestions as to what to do. Because the problem is with 
creating a post, I am not able to contact the site admin to see what 
they know about this.


LMH
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Re: getting new messages for all my groups

2011-10-19 Thread AndersonLELIA 
If you are willing to buy real estate, you will have to get the http://goodfinance-blog.com";>loans. Moreover, my mother always takes 
a student loan, which occurs to be really useful. 


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Re: Custom Buttons is Not available for SeaMonkey 2.4.1

2011-10-19 Thread denewton 

Joe32065 a écrit :

Custom Buttons is Not available for SeaMonkey 2.4.1 Is there a trick to
get it to work?

Hello
Windows, Apple or Linux ?
[Windows] : is the button palette not opennig whith the right button of 
the mouse ?

Only the search button on the toolbar is non OK.
I can open the button palette whithout problem.
Bertrand
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Custom Buttons is Not available for SeaMonkey 2.4.1

2011-10-19 Thread Joe32065 
Custom Buttons is Not available for SeaMonkey 2.4.1  Is there a trick to 
get it to work?

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Re: ie7 download problem

2011-10-19 Thread KleinLaurel 
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ANN: SeaMonkey Hallowe'en Bug Event

2011-10-19 Thread Tony Mechelynck 
(This announcement is intentionally cross-posted; followups are set to 
mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey. Please do not change the Followup-To: line.)



The SeaMonkey Community will hold a Bug event in the days and nights 
preceding Hallowe'en. Witches and wizards, hold your wands and get ready 
to fight the sly and evil Bugs and their offspring Maggots!


* WHEN?

From Thursday 27 October 2011 08:00 to Sunday 30 October 2011 23:00 UTC 
without interruption.


Europe will go off summer time during the night from Saturday to Sunday; 
most countries which use DST / summer time on other continents will be 
using it during the whole test (North hemisphere countries such as the 
USA will still be on DST, South hemisphere countries such as the 
DST-using states of Brazil and provinces of Australia will already be on 
summer time). A table with local start and stop times of the Event in 
various time zones around the world appears on the wiki page for the 
event (linked below).


* WHERE?

Channel #bugday on the Mozilla IRC server (for ChatZilla, 
irc://moznet/bugday , for other clients, either irc://irc.mozilla.org/ 
or ircs://irc.mozilla.org:6697/ then /join #bugday )




For more information: https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/Bug_events/20111027



Best regards,
Tony.
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