Re: Exporting from SeaMonkey to be importing into my laptop...

2012-01-07 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 07/01/2012 01:04, John Cunniff told the world:
 Hello, Everybody,
 
 I got a new laptop almost two weeks ago. I got excited about it. Before 
 I downloads SeaMonkey from the SeaMonkey-projects site, I went to my 
 Desktop and I found that I CAN import. But, I am looking for Export. I 
 want to export my stuff from my Desktop into my laptop to be imported.
 
 How can I export everything, including mail folders, messages, settings 
 and et'al?
 
 Thank you very much.

I hear good things about MozBackup. It's supposed to backup your entire
Seamonkey profile and restore it to your new machine.

Apparently the most recent version can be found here:

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/


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Re: Exporting from SeaMonkey to be importing into my laptop...

2012-01-07 Thread JD

John Cunniff wrote:

Hello, Everybody,

I got a new laptop almost two weeks ago. I got excited about it. Before
I downloads SeaMonkey from the SeaMonkey-projects site, I went to my
Desktop and I found that I CAN import. But, I am looking for Export. I
want to export my stuff from my Desktop into my laptop to be imported.

How can I export everything, including mail folders, messages, settings
and et'al?

Thank you very much.

Johnny :)


I recently did the same thing with my new laptop. Install SM on the 
laptop, make sure the laptop and desktop are the same version of SM. 
Copy your entire profile from the desktop to the laptop. I used a 8 mb 
usb flash drive to move the profile.


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Re: Norton Internet Security 2012 integration with SM 2.6.1

2012-01-07 Thread keith_w

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 1/4/2012 7:09 PM PT, flyguy typed:


Norton Internet Security 2012 offers Browser protection for
Internet Explorer 6.0 or later, Chrome 10.0 or later, and Firefox
3.6 or later. According to Norton:

When you turn on Browser Protection, Norton Internet Security
proactively blocks new or unknown malware programs before they
attack your computer. By protecting your Web browser, Norton
Internet Security secures your sensitive information and prevents
the attackers from controlling your system remotely.

Always keep the Browser Protection settings turned on to protect
your Web browser against attacks by malicious Web sites.




Can SM 2.6.1 fool Norton so it thinks it is FF 3.6 or later, and
would the results have any value? Currently, my
general.useragent.extra.firefox is set to Firefox/3.0


Nope. It doesn't work with Mozilla's SeaMonkey (SM) web browsers.
It's only for Firefox with Mozilla's products. I highly doubt it will
ever support SM. SM is not just popular. :(




Not clear from the NIS documentation. On my system, the option is there
and enabled (not grayed out), so maybe it's working. The web help
doesn't mention SM, though:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?utm_source=symcutm_medium=productproduct=Norton+Internet+Securityversion=19.2.0.10lg=0901layout=Retaillayouttype=ESDbuildname=Retailsymskucurrent=20032950symskumedia=21171898partnername=Retailsubremaining=173sublength=180substatus=currentpsn=GRCV8Y84JV8Tactstat=activatedcurdefs=20120105.034hbguid=8715966F-AE18-4E43-8AA1-4F470AADED12osversion=6.1+7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506spversion=1.0oslang=enct=United+Statesieversion=9.0.8112.16421coreservice=Startup+Type%3Aauto+State%3ARunningconntype=1cpu=Intel64+Family+6+Model+42+Stepping+7dsfree=.80dstotal=1584.25memload=26%25memtotal=6919datetime=01-06-2012+16%3A48%3A36+PM+GMThcmode=falsehelpid=NIS_browser_defense_RTentsrc=helpdocid=v15457369_NIS_Retail_2012_en_uspvid=f-nis-curcountry=United+Stateslanguage=English


That is, without a doubt, the longest working URL link I've evere seen!

keith whaley

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Re: Exporting from SeaMonkey to be importing into my laptop...

2012-01-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

JD wrote:


I recently did the same thing with my new laptop. Install SM on the
laptop, make sure the laptop and desktop are the same version of SM.
Copy your entire profile from the desktop to the laptop. I used a 8 mb
usb flash drive to move the profile.


Presumably you mean 8 GB. An 8 MB drive wouldn't begin to hold one of my 
folders, much less my whole profile.


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Re: Exporting from SeaMonkey to be importing into my laptop...

2012-01-07 Thread Zeb Carter

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 07/01/2012 01:04, John Cunniff told the world:

Hello, Everybody,

I got a new laptop almost two weeks ago. I got excited about it. Before
I downloads SeaMonkey from the SeaMonkey-projects site, I went to my
Desktop and I found that I CAN import. But, I am looking for Export. I
want to export my stuff from my Desktop into my laptop to be imported.

How can I export everything, including mail folders, messages, settings
and et'al?

Thank you very much.


I hear good things about MozBackup. It's supposed to backup your entire
Seamonkey profile and restore it to your new machine.

Apparently the most recent version can be found here:

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/


I'll second the use of MozBackup. My home machine is a Win XP Media 
Center and I used MozBackup on it. Then I  used it to set up my Win 7 
laptop at work. With Mozilla Sync, the two stay linked. Best of both worlds!


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SM 2.0.4 personal toolbar locked to entry and Bookmarks do not survive close/open of app.

2012-01-07 Thread jim


SM 2.0.4 personal toolbar locked to entry and Bookmarks do not survive
close/open of app.  Running XP SP3.

Seamonkey is running as a stand-alone app; does not appear in add/remove
programs.

Dragging a url down to the personal toolbar looks as if it would work,
being a circle with a bar through it as it goes across the navigation
toolbar, changing to a file box outline as it moves onto the personal
toolbar but releasing the mouse gives the system error sound (donk?) and
URL disappears.

Adding a bookmark with CTRL-SHIFT-D does so for that session but it does
not survive a close/open of the SM application.

Personal toolbar does display the Adblock-plus icon on extreme left.

Copying the entire MOZILLA --SEAMONKEY branch from a previous
installation with necessary subdirectory name changes and change in
profile.ini reinstalled the old history, all extensions (like ad-block),
themes, etc., but NOT bookmarks.  Since, so far as i know, the history and
bookmarks are in the same SQL database, i am at a loss as to why history
carried over but not 800+ bookmarks.

Any ideas?

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a very big conveniance [cLEK FUDE, CHECK IT OUT]

2012-01-07 Thread km

... perhaps a built in fax machine could be added right to SM ...
HMM, OR A WAY TO ADD ANY AP OF YOUR CHOICE???

KM

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Re: Exporting from SeaMonkey to be importing into my laptop...

2012-01-07 Thread JD

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

JD wrote:


I recently did the same thing with my new laptop. Install SM on the
laptop, make sure the laptop and desktop are the same version of SM.
Copy your entire profile from the desktop to the laptop. I used a 8 mb
usb flash drive to move the profile.


Presumably you mean 8 GB. An 8 MB drive wouldn't begin to hold one of my
folders, much less my whole profile.



Thanks Paul for catching my little typo. I used an 8 GB USB flash drive.

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Re: a very big conveniance [cLEK FUDE, CHECK IT OUT]

2012-01-07 Thread Keith Whaley

Michael Gordon wrote:

[...]


KM,

My personal opinion, try it out sometime.

It is far easier to print any document to a .pdf file and attach the
file to an e-mail message.

FAX transmissions are on the way out for the majority of users.
1. You need a dedicated phone line.
2. You need to know if the recipient can receive FAX transmissions.
3. If your recipient is not in your local calling area you pay long
distance fees for the length of time it takes to send 500Kb FAX, at
96Kb/sec. to the recipient.

E-mail attachments of a 500Kb PDF file transfer in Microseconds.

Michael G


Thanks, Michael.

I read your message to my wife, and 20 minutes of dialog later (!) I
turned off my beloved Brother all-in-one fax/copy/phone machine, for the 
first time in a VERY long time!


Sighhh.

I recognize you're right, so...we'll try it. For a while.  :-D

I suspect all we'll REALLY miss is, the regular American Airlines and 
other such travel agencies' gratuitous offers twice weekly.  grin


I also suspect that once we figure out we really do NOT need a fax 
machine any longer, we'll get rid of the extra phone line! Now that will 
be a savings. More beer for Dad!  g


keith whaley


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Re: Norton Internet Security 2012 integration with SM 2.6.1

2012-01-07 Thread PhillipJones

Ed Mullen wrote:

WLS wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


Not clear from the NIS documentation. On my system, the option is there
and enabled (not grayed out), so maybe it's working. The web help
doesn't mention SM, though:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?utm_source=symcutm_medium=productproduct=Norton+Internet+Securityversion=19.2.0.10lg=0901layout=Retaillayouttype=ESDbuildname=Retailsymskucurrent=20032950symskumedia=21171898partnername=Retailsubremaining=173sublength=180substatus=currentpsn=GRCV8Y84JV8Tactstat=activatedcurdefs=20120105.034hbguid=8715966F-AE18-4E43-8AA1-4F470AADED12osversion=6.1+7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506spversion=1.0oslang=enct=United+Statesieversion=9.0.8112.16421coreservice=Startup+Type%3Aauto+State%3ARunningconntype=1cpu=Intel64+Family+6+Model+42+Stepping+7dsfree=.80dstotal=1584.25memload=26%25memtotal=6919datetime=01-06-2012+16%3A48%3A36+PM+GMThcmode=falsehelpid=NIS_browser_defense_RTentsrc=helpdocid=v15457369_NIS_Retail_2012_en_uspvid=f-nis-curcountry=United+Stateslanguage=English





Much shorter version of the URL:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?docid=v15457369_NIS_Retail_2012_en_us







Even shorter version. Unfortunately TinyURL Generator is not available
for SeaMonkey.



What do you mean it's not available for SeaMonkey?



I have used it before so I know it exist for Mac.

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Re: Norton Internet Security 2012 integration with SM 2.6.1

2012-01-07 Thread PhillipJones

WLS wrote:

On 01/06/2012 11:10 PM, Ed Mullen aliandika:

WLS wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


Not clear from the NIS documentation. On my system, the option is there
and enabled (not grayed out), so maybe it's working. The web help
doesn't mention SM, though:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?utm_source=symcutm_medium=productproduct=Norton+Internet+Securityversion=19.2.0.10lg=0901layout=Retaillayouttype=ESDbuildname=Retailsymskucurrent=20032950symskumedia=21171898partnername=Retailsubremaining=173sublength=180substatus=currentpsn=GRCV8Y84JV8Tactstat=activatedcurdefs=20120105.034hbguid=8715966F-AE18-4E43-8AA1-4F470AADED12osversion=6.1+7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506spversion=1.0oslang=enct=United+Statesieversion=9.0.8112.16421coreservice=Startup+Type%3Aauto+State%3ARunningconntype=1cpu=Intel64+Family+6+Model+42+Stepping+7dsfree=.80dstotal=1584.25memload=26%25memtotal=6919datetime=01-06-2012+16%3A48%3A36+PM+GMThcmode=falsehelpid=NIS_browser_defense_RTentsrc=helpdocid=v15457369_NIS_Retail_2012_en_uspvid=f-nis-curcountry=United+Stateslanguage=English





Much shorter version of the URL:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?docid=v15457369_NIS_Retail_2012_en_us







Even shorter version. Unfortunately TinyURL Generator is not available
for SeaMonkey.



What do you mean it's not available for SeaMonkey?




Well, when I go to AMO, and search for TinyURL Generator, I find this page.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tinyurl-generator/

When I click on the Add to Firefox button, the extension downloads, and
I get an error message informing me that, TinyURL Generator could not be
installed because it is incompatible with SeaMonkey 2.7.

Also the install.rdf does not have a SeaMonkey code section, like this
one for Firefox.

  em:targetApplication
 Description
 !-- Firefox --
 em:id{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}/em:id
 em:minVersion1.5/em:minVersion
 em:maxVersion9.0a1/em:maxVersion
 /Description
 /em:targetApplication

It was interesting that I got it to install, by adding one to the
install.rdf file, from a SeaMonkey extension. However it doesn't appear
to work.


That doesn't mean its not available for Mac. It just means the Dumb A*** 
that designed the extension for Mozilla didn't realize that the browser 
portion of SM the same Browser that's in Firefox.  They just  wrote it 
in such a way that only firefox can use it.


That's what infuriates me about extensions. The code used for the 
browser is the same SM and FF and SM and TB for mail, Why the Heck 
extension designers get a clue and make one extension for web browser 
that works on both SM FF  or for  the Mail/new for SM TB.


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Re: Use of Proxy Server and Virus Infections ?

2012-01-07 Thread DoctorBill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

JeffM wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Daniel wrote:

[...]BitDefender[...]anti-virus update[...]


I've been reading with great amusement
this thread about a toy OS and the hoops its users jump thru.


If your b-i-l used Mandriva, he'd not have had this problem! :-)


I was thinking along those lines from the beginning.
My question is: What tasks do these folks actually do
that **requires** the easily-infected / needs-anti-whatever-apps OS?
I'm betting that the answer is None.


Analogy: A car can easily be wrecked, but a safe driver can generally
avoid that. By the same token, Windows can easily be infected, but a
safe user can generally avoid that.

The main reasons people use Windows:

1) Inertia -- they've always used it, it's familiar and understandable
(mostly); it's the default when they go to the store;

2) Interoperability -- it's so ubiquitous that if you share files,
chances are the other person already has the app that generated them and
knows how to use it. Similarly, if you need help or feel generous about
giving help, chances are your friend is using the same program.

Ordinary users don't think nearly as much about security as techies like
us, and they're much less willing to invest time and effort to learn the
arcana of lesser-known operating systems like Linux or lesser-known mail
programs like SeaMonkey. They don't want to maintain the car, they just
want to drive it. Beyond filling the tank and cleaning the windshield,
they can't be bothered.



They don't want to maintain the car, they just want to drive it.
Beyond filling the tank and cleaning the windshield, they can't be
bothered.

EXACTLY !  I have other things to do !  A computer is a TOOL...not an 
end all and be all that I want to have to learn all about just to use...


Cars used to be easy to work on - now the Technology is almost Throw 
away - like FM Radios and MP3 Players.  You can't fix it.
Hard to find the alternator amongst all that complex stuff under the 
hood.  Gotta pay some Dude big bucks - and he just does parts 
replacement, too - He hardly understands the damned thing himself.


Windows is now so freaking complex and huge as to be absurd.
Some technical geek now determines what the public will want. lol

You folks get on here and talk technical jargon and act as if the 
average person is some sort of useless (useful) idiot who should know 
better.  lol


I know - I have my own technical area (chemistry) and get impatient when 
the average person shows lack of ANY knowledge...it's easy to be that way.


In any case - thanks for highjacking this thread.  It is most 
interesting to listen to what the technical people think...or NOT.


I used to know a lot about Netscape, then Seamonkeyback ten years 
ago. I didn't keep up with the latest add-ons, extensions, plugins, etc 
etc etc.now I don't remember much and have to ask you guys each time 
I want to change versions (which are never ending and contantly changing 
forms and function).


I just want my cake and to eat it, too.

I have my own hobbies and problems with family and job and life in 
general.  I don't want to learn whole new programs and systems just to 
get onto Hobby Forums and send E-Mail.


Have I now offended just about everyone out there !

DoctorBill

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Re: Use of Proxy Server and Virus Infections ?

2012-01-07 Thread JeffM
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
They don't want to maintain the car,

Oh, but they -ARE- willing to invest large gobs of their time
into learning the fine points of anti-whatever apps
(which aren't necessary on a properly-crafted OS).

they just want to drive it.

...after they've ironed out all the conflicts
with their multiple layers of (again, unnecessary) band-aids.

Beyond filling the tank and cleaning the windshield,

...and wrapping the car in bubble-wrap and duct tape
and tin foil and insulation and polarizing lenses and ...

they can't be bothered.

This thread is proof that they are ALREADY being bothered.

DoctorBill wrote:
EXACTLY !  I have other things to do !

...like starting this thread about a non-Mozilla topic
--something which Gecko users **who don't use M$'s junk**
will never encounter.

A computer is a TOOL

A computer is a reliable device
--at least it was before M$ got into the biz.
The point is that the hardware can run a *multitude* of software.
**Most** of those choices (i.e. those outside the M$ realm)
DON'T involve pasted-on anti-whatever apps.

Now, a *tool* is someone who whistles in the dark
while dealing with a mountain of problems
that are caused by a poorly-designed/poorly-supported OS
--then defends that junk OS as a superior choice.

I have my own hobbies

...and, apparently, one of those
is learning how to deal with The M$ Infection of the Week.
...then looking for a new way of insisting
that you are using a superior OS.
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[Off-topic] FOSS advocacy by perpetuating FUD (was : Use of Proxy Server and Virus Infections ?)

2012-01-07 Thread Philip TAYLOR

Does your inferiority complex pervade your whole life, Paul,
or is it restricted to your choice of operating system ?

Philip Taylor

JeffM wrote:

yet another childish and pointless diatribe about the
 supposedevils of Microsoft and Windows
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Re: Use of Proxy Server and Virus Infections ?

2012-01-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

JeffM wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

They don't want to maintain the car,


Oh, but they -ARE- willing to invest large gobs of their time into
learning the fine points of anti-whatever apps (which aren't
necessary on a properly-crafted OS).


Really? Show me one, just one, non-geek/nerd who does that.


Beyond filling the tank and cleaning the windshield,


...and wrapping the car in bubble-wrap and duct tape
and tin foil and insulation and polarizing lenses and ...


Really? Show me one, just one, non-geek/nerd who does that.


they can't be bothered.


This thread is proof that they are ALREADY being bothered.


They're bothered if they can't just turn the key and drive.


DoctorBill wrote:


I have my own hobbies


...and, apparently, one of those is learning how to deal with The M$
Infection of the Week. ...then looking for a new way of insisting
that you are using a superior OS.


Did you actually read the thread, or are you making your own up out of 
whole cloth? I don't see any of those fantastic statements upthread.


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Re: Re: Sniffing/Testing - Fix it or forget about SeaMonkey

2012-01-07 Thread JohnnieCunningham28
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SM 2.0.4 personal toolbar locked to entry and Bookmarks do not survive close/open of app.

2012-01-07 Thread jim


SM 2.0.4 personal toolbar locked to entry and Bookmarks do not survive
close/open of app.  Running XP SP3.

Seamonkey is running as a stand-alone app; does not appear in add/remove
programs.

Dragging a url down to the personal toolbar looks as if it would work,
being a circle with a bar through it as it goes across the navigation
toolbar, changing to a file box outline as it moves onto the personal
toolbar but releasing the mouse gives the system error sound (donk?) and
URL disappears.

Adding a bookmark with CTRL-SHIFT-D does so for that session but it does
not survive a close/open of the SM application.

Personal toolbar does display the Adblock-plus icon on extreme left.

Copying the entire MOZILLA --SEAMONKEY branch from a previous
installation with necessary subdirectory name changes and change in
profile.ini reinstalled the old history, all extensions (like ad-block),
themes, etc., but NOT bookmarks.  Since, so far as i know, the history and
bookmarks are in the same SQL database, i am at a loss as to why history
carried over but not 800+ bookmarks.

Any ideas?

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Re: Archive folder?

2012-01-07 Thread NoOp
On 01/06/2012 01:47 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Jens Hatlak wrote:
 
 Keith Whaley wrote:
 The other day I noticed a new folder in my SM lineup called Archives.

 What caused that to show up? Was it part of v.2.5 SM and I never noticed
 it until now?

 From time to time, I notice new messages in there, in sub-folders
 titled 2011 or 2012. I don't recall setting up rules to move messages
 there.
 What's going on, please?

 I guess you pressed Shift+A at some point in time...

 Cf. Edit / Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings / account / Copies 
 Folders / Archive Options
 
 I never did this, but Shift-A is such a common keystroke combination 
 that I can't believe any competent designer would use it for a specific 
 function.
 
 I see that all my accounts are set to create archives, which is 
 disturbing because I used to have folders by that name, with contents, 
 and they're gone!
 

That sounds like a critical bug. Have you filed a bug report?


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Re: Norton Internet Security 2012 integration with SM 2.6.1

2012-01-07 Thread PhillipJones

PhillipJones wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

WLS wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


Not clear from the NIS documentation. On my system, the option is
there
and enabled (not grayed out), so maybe it's working. The web help
doesn't mention SM, though:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?utm_source=symcutm_medium=productproduct=Norton+Internet+Securityversion=19.2.0.10lg=0901layout=Retaillayouttype=ESDbuildname=Retailsymskucurrent=20032950symskumedia=21171898partnername=Retailsubremaining=173sublength=180substatus=currentpsn=GRCV8Y84JV8Tactstat=activatedcurdefs=20120105.034hbguid=8715966F-AE18-4E43-8AA1-4F470AADED12osversion=6.1+7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506spversion=1.0oslang=enct=United+Statesieversion=9.0.8112.16421coreservice=Startup+Type%3Aauto+State%3ARunningconntype=1cpu=Intel64+Family+6+Model+42+Stepping+7dsfree=.80dstotal=1584.25memload=26%25memtotal=6919datetime=01-06-2012+16%3A48%3A36+PM+GMThcmode=falsehelpid=NIS_browser_defense_RTentsrc=helpdocid=v15457369_NIS_Retail_2012_en_uspvid=f-nis-curcountry=United+Stateslanguage=English






Much shorter version of the URL:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?docid=v15457369_NIS_Retail_2012_en_us








Even shorter version. Unfortunately TinyURL Generator is not available
for SeaMonkey.



What do you mean it's not available for SeaMonkey?



I have used it before so I know it exist for Mac.

I've got to ammend my answer. Tiny URL does work on Mac , that is you go 
to their site paste in the 05 mile wide URL and either suggest or allow 
Tiny URL to generate a new URL. I t seems the code they have on their 
site to create a Button is exclusively for IE 6 only.


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Re: Archive folder?

2012-01-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

NoOp wrote:


On 01/06/2012 01:47 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:


Keith Whaley wrote:

The other day I noticed a new folder in my SM lineup called Archives.

What caused that to show up? Was it part of v.2.5 SM and I never noticed
it until now?

 From time to time, I notice new messages in there, in sub-folders
titled 2011 or 2012. I don't recall setting up rules to move messages
there.
What's going on, please?


I guess you pressed Shift+A at some point in time...

Cf. Edit / Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings /account  / Copies
Folders / Archive Options


I never did this, but Shift-A is such a common keystroke combination
that I can't believe any competent designer would use it for a specific
function.

I see that all my accounts are set to create archives, which is
disturbing because I used to have folders by that name, with contents,
and they're gone!


That sounds like a critical bug. Have you filed a bug report?


Not yet, for several reasons:

1) I recently had a computer crash (thought it was bad RAM, turned out 
to be a bad motherboard), so some files that I thought were backed up 
turned out to be corrupted. I've been gradually going through older and 
older versions to recover what I can, which brings me to:


2) I didn't have my folder structure memorized, so I can't be absolutely 
sure off the top of my head what's missing and what's intact and what's 
just my approaching senility. If I file a bug, I want to be sure to 
speak accurately; I don't want to guess or fudge and waste someone's time.


3) I've never filed a bug before, so there'll be a learning curve, and 
right now I'm focused on learning Windows 7 (not the same as WinXP) and 
meeting deadlines. The new machine is way faster, but not everything is 
where I left it, and not everything works the same way.


Still, I brought the issue up in case others have experienced it and 
have a better handle on it.


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Re: Fireform add-on won't enable in 2.6.1

2012-01-07 Thread flyguy

On 1/7/2012 5:54 AM, Rickles wrote:

flyguy wrote:

I have Fireform 0.7.4 as an add-on (computer #1), using SM 2.6.1. It's
working well, but I can't get it to enable on my other computer
(computer #2), both running XP.

The Add-on listing for it says it's not compatible with 2.6.1, but it
offers three buttons: Options, Disable, Remove. At the top of the list,
it shows ! Add-on compatibility checking is disabled. You may have
incompatible add-ons. (Enable button)

On my other computer, it has only one button in the Fireform listing:
Remove. There is no ! Add-on compatibility checking is disabled...
warning at the top of the list.

I noticed the about:config file is different for the two computers when
I filter on compatibility.

Computer #1 has list of about fifteen entries like this:

extensions.checkCompatibility.2.5; user set boolean false
extensions.checkCompatibility.2.6; user set boolean false

Should I add the one entry for 2.6 to computer #2? or is there a better
way to get SM (computer #2) to let me enable FireForm?

You should download/install the 'Add-on Compatibility Reporter' on the
second computer. Sounds like it's on the first one, and that's what
gives you the extra buttons on each plug-in entry.


I did have it on #1 for a while, but it interfered with Lightning, and I 
removed it. That problem may be gone, now that Lightning has been 
updated to a new version; regardless, Reporter seems to have left some 
useful things in the config file.


Computer #2 doesn't have Lightning, so even the potential for problems 
isn't there. I'll try it the next time my wife is away from it for an 
hour or two. She'd really like Fireform back.

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Re: Use of Proxy Server and Virus Infections ?

2012-01-07 Thread DoctorBill

JeffM wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
They don't want to maintain the car,


Oh, but they -ARE- willing to invest large gobs of their time
into learning the fine points of anti-whatever apps
(which aren't necessary on a properly-crafted OS).


they just want to drive it.


...after they've ironed out all the conflicts
with their multiple layers of (again, unnecessary) band-aids.


Beyond filling the tank and cleaning the windshield,


...and wrapping the car in bubble-wrap and duct tape
and tin foil and insulation and polarizing lenses and ...


they can't be bothered.


This thread is proof that they are ALREADY being bothered.

DoctorBill wrote:

EXACTLY !  I have other things to do !


...like starting this thread about a non-Mozilla topic
--something which Gecko users **who don't use M$'s junk**
will never encounter.


A computer is a TOOL


A computer is a reliable device
--at least it was before M$ got into the biz.
The point is that the hardware can run a *multitude* of software.
**Most** of those choices (i.e. those outside the M$ realm)
DON'T involve pasted-on anti-whatever apps.

Now, a *tool* is someone who whistles in the dark
while dealing with a mountain of problems
that are caused by a poorly-designed/poorly-supported OS
--then defends that junk OS as a superior choice.


I have my own hobbies


...and, apparently, one of those
is learning how to deal with The M$ Infection of the Week.
...then looking for a new way of insisting
that you are using a superior OS.


You folks get on here and talk technical jargon and act as if the 
average person is some sort of useless (useful) idiot who should know 
better.


I think that you have made my case for me !

DoctorBill

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