Re: CheckPlaces is no more

2012-12-29 Thread Daniel

WaltS wrote:

Snip

I may test the extension with SM 2.16a2, and 2.17a1.


Sorry!! Two Alpha's in the wild at one time!?!?

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Re: Still not informed of updates

2012-12-29 Thread Rob
Craig cr...@example.com wrote:
 Rob wrote:
 Craig cr...@example.com wrote:
 Rob wrote:

 The program fetches an XML file using a URL that is configured in
 about:config pref app.update.url

 That parameter in my SM 2.14.1 has the value:

 app.update.url;https://aus2-community.mozilla.org/update/3/%PRODUCT%/%VERSION%/%BUILD_ID%/%BUILD_TARGET%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/%OS_VERSION%/%DISTRIBUTION%/%DISTRIBUTION_VERSION%/update.xml

 I presume SM substitutes values for all the text between per-cent signs.

 How do I figure out what all those values are?

 No idea.  Maybe temporarily change the https to http and check again
 in wireshark.


 I changed it from https to http and re-ran Wireshark's capture and SM's 
 update check. It still changes to an encrypted link.

But then you have seen what the link was before it changed, and you
know how the parameters are substituted...
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Re: SeaMonkey default printer problem

2012-12-29 Thread Rob
Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote:
 The good news is that once you select a printer, it will remember that 
 one indefinitely -- until you select another. So if you always want to 
 use the same printer, select it once and never select another. ;-)

Yes but most people consider that bad news, not good news.

We had problems with this in the company as well.  People log in to
another workstation, print an e-mail to the printer at that location,
go back to their usual workstation, print an e-mail without looking
at the selected printer and it ends up at the printer where they
last printed (and cannot get at it, have it read by others, etc)

So this user.js entry has been in place on our systems ever since
I found that.  Now Seamonkey behaves like most Windows programs do.
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Re: SeaMonkey default printer problem

2012-12-29 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Rob wrote:

 Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote:
 The good news is that once you select a printer, it will remember that
 one indefinitely -- until you select another. So if you always want to
 use the same printer, select it once and never select another. ;-)
 
 Yes but most people consider that bad news, not good news.
 
 We had problems with this in the company as well.  People log in to
 another workstation, print an e-mail to the printer at that location,
 go back to their usual workstation, print an e-mail without looking at
 the selected printer and it ends up at the printer where they last
 printed (and cannot get at it, have it read by others, etc)

How does your company use SeaMonkey? Are your employees using something 
that is run from a server? Otherwise, I can't see how they could get their 
own mail when logged into someone else's workstation. At my company, the 
only way to get one's own mail was from the individual's own computer.

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Re: SeaMonkey default printer problem

2012-12-29 Thread Rob
Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote:
 Rob wrote:

 Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote:
 The good news is that once you select a printer, it will remember that
 one indefinitely -- until you select another. So if you always want to
 use the same printer, select it once and never select another. ;-)
 
 Yes but most people consider that bad news, not good news.
 
 We had problems with this in the company as well.  People log in to
 another workstation, print an e-mail to the printer at that location,
 go back to their usual workstation, print an e-mail without looking at
 the selected printer and it ends up at the printer where they last
 printed (and cannot get at it, have it read by others, etc)

 How does your company use SeaMonkey? Are your employees using something 
 that is run from a server? Otherwise, I can't see how they could get their 
 own mail when logged into someone else's workstation. At my company, the 
 only way to get one's own mail was from the individual's own computer.

Of course we use an IMAP server for mail, and roaming profiles.
When you log in to someone else's computer, the roaming profile is
loaded from the server and with it come all your Seamonkey settings.
(including your IMAP account settings)

When you open Seamonkey you connect to the IMAP server and there is
all your mail.  This also has the advantage that your mail is not
lost when your workstation crashes, and the server of course has
backups.
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Re: SeaMonkey default printer problem

2012-12-29 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Rob wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Rob wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 The good news is that once you select a printer, it will remember
 that one indefinitely -- until you select another. So if you always
 want to use the same printer, select it once and never select
 another. ;-)
 
 Yes but most people consider that bad news, not good news.
 
 We had problems with this in the company as well.  People log in to
 another workstation, print an e-mail to the printer at that location,
 go back to their usual workstation, print an e-mail without looking at
 the selected printer and it ends up at the printer where they last
 printed (and cannot get at it, have it read by others, etc)

 How does your company use SeaMonkey? Are your employees using something
 that is run from a server? Otherwise, I can't see how they could get
 their own mail when logged into someone else's workstation. At my
 company, the only way to get one's own mail was from the individual's
 own computer.
 
 Of course we use an IMAP server for mail, and roaming profiles. When you
 log in to someone else's computer, the roaming profile is loaded from
 the server and with it come all your Seamonkey settings.
 (including your IMAP account settings)
 
 When you open Seamonkey you connect to the IMAP server and there is all
 your mail.  This also has the advantage that your mail is not lost when
 your workstation crashes, and the server of course has backups.

Okay, thanks for the explanation, though I still wonder how a person logs 
into someone else's PC, as there would be no user name/password existing 
for roaming people. Is there only one instance of SeaMonkey installed on 
all the workstations?

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Re: SeaMonkey default printer problem

2012-12-29 Thread Rickles

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Rob wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Rob wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

The good news is that once you select a printer, it will remember
that one indefinitely -- until you select another. So if you always
want to use the same printer, select it once and never select
another. ;-)


Yes but most people consider that bad news, not good news.

We had problems with this in the company as well.  People log in to
another workstation, print an e-mail to the printer at that location,
go back to their usual workstation, print an e-mail without looking at
the selected printer and it ends up at the printer where they last
printed (and cannot get at it, have it read by others, etc)


How does your company use SeaMonkey? Are your employees using something
that is run from a server? Otherwise, I can't see how they could get
their own mail when logged into someone else's workstation. At my
company, the only way to get one's own mail was from the individual's
own computer.


Of course we use an IMAP server for mail, and roaming profiles. When you
log in to someone else's computer, the roaming profile is loaded from
the server and with it come all your Seamonkey settings.
(including your IMAP account settings)

When you open Seamonkey you connect to the IMAP server and there is all
your mail.  This also has the advantage that your mail is not lost when
your workstation crashes, and the server of course has backups.


Okay, thanks for the explanation, though I still wonder how a person logs
into someone else's PC, as there would be no user name/password existing
for roaming people. Is there only one instance of SeaMonkey installed on
all the workstations?

The use of roaming profiles assumes you're in a domain environment, 
where logins are checked against Active Directory or some other LDAP 
provider.  User profiles are not normally cached on the workstations 
since they come from the network server, and usernames don't have to be 
created on each workstation since they're centrally handled in the 
Directory services.
Workgroups or peer-to-peer networks don't have this central admin or 
file storage for logins and profiles, and that's where you have to worry 
about who's login exists on which PCs.

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Re: SeaMonkey default printer problem

2012-12-29 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Rickles wrote:

 The use of roaming profiles assumes you're in a domain environment,
 where logins are checked against Active Directory or some other LDAP
 provider. User profiles are not normally cached on the workstations
 since they come from the network server, and usernames don't have to be
 created on each workstation since they're centrally handled in the
 Directory services. Workgroups or peer-to-peer networks don't have this
 central admin or file storage for logins and profiles, and that's where
 you have to worry about who's login exists on which PCs.

Thanks for the additional information.

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Re: SeaMonkey default printer problem

2012-12-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/29/12 4:07 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Rob wrote:
 
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Rob wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 The good news is that once you select a printer, it will remember
 that one indefinitely -- until you select another. So if you always
 want to use the same printer, select it once and never select
 another. ;-)

 Yes but most people consider that bad news, not good news.

 We had problems with this in the company as well.  People log in to
 another workstation, print an e-mail to the printer at that location,
 go back to their usual workstation, print an e-mail without looking at
 the selected printer and it ends up at the printer where they last
 printed (and cannot get at it, have it read by others, etc)

 How does your company use SeaMonkey? Are your employees using something
 that is run from a server? Otherwise, I can't see how they could get
 their own mail when logged into someone else's workstation. At my
 company, the only way to get one's own mail was from the individual's
 own computer.

 Of course we use an IMAP server for mail, and roaming profiles. When you
 log in to someone else's computer, the roaming profile is loaded from
 the server and with it come all your Seamonkey settings.
 (including your IMAP account settings)

 When you open Seamonkey you connect to the IMAP server and there is all
 your mail.  This also has the advantage that your mail is not lost when
 your workstation crashes, and the server of course has backups.
 
 Okay, thanks for the explanation, though I still wonder how a person logs 
 into someone else's PC, as there would be no user name/password existing 
 for roaming people. Is there only one instance of SeaMonkey installed on 
 all the workstations?
 

Some years ago, I would walk into a room of workstations, sit down at
any that was not already in use, and login.  I would get my own
configuration that, yesterday, I got at a different workstation.

This was in a highly secure environment for developing and testing
classified software for the military.  We had to change our passwords
monthly.  The login server kept a record of our passwords so that we
could not reuse a password for 24 months.  The system was sufficiently
secure that it was not connected in any way to the Internet.  Cell
phones, laptops, etc were prohibited from the facility.  Floppy drives
were all removed or at least physically disabled.  (Memory sticks were
not yet known.)

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Moving Profile

2012-12-29 Thread Larry H

Is there a simple process used to move my profile from 1.x to 2.x Seamonkey?

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Re: Slow SeaMonkey

2012-12-29 Thread Iceman
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:38 -0800, David E. Ross wrote in message
news:_i2dnfltc-lodehnnz2dnuvz_hydn...@mozilla.org:

 I have been observing two different ways in which SeaMonkey seems slow.
 
 When I launch SeaMonkey, my home page is my exported bookmarks.html file
 on my local hard drive.  I see this home page almost immediately.
 However, I cannot scroll, launch a Find dialogue popup, select anything
 from the menu bar, select any button on a tool bar, or resize the
 browser window for several seconds.  I just now timed it at 8 wall-clock
 seconds after the window appeared.  I disconnected from the Internet and
 still timed it at 8 seconds, so it is not a case of SeaMonkey accessing
 the Internet.
 
 The second slowness affects rendering.  It is most noticeable at
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html, Section 8 of the W3C's HTML5
 Candidate Recommendation specification.  This is not an issue with
 downloading.  I downloaded the HTML file in 1-2 seconds.  This is
 definitely a rendering issue, seen (1) if I zoom the text and (2) when I
 load into SeaMonkey the downloaded HTML file from my hard drive.  This
 is most likely a Core problem; since I use SeaMonkey as my only browser,
 I am reporting the problem here.

Yes, it could be a Core problem, or a system resources problem, or a video
drivers problem. But since you offer no comparison, i.e. how the page
behaves in other browsers, then this may not be a SeaMonkey issue.
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Re: Slow SeaMonkey

2012-12-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/29/12 10:52 AM, Iceman wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:37:38 -0800, David E. Ross wrote in message
 news:_i2dnfltc-lodehnnz2dnuvz_hydn...@mozilla.org:
 
 I have been observing two different ways in which SeaMonkey seems slow.

 When I launch SeaMonkey, my home page is my exported bookmarks.html file
 on my local hard drive.  I see this home page almost immediately.
 However, I cannot scroll, launch a Find dialogue popup, select anything
 from the menu bar, select any button on a tool bar, or resize the
 browser window for several seconds.  I just now timed it at 8 wall-clock
 seconds after the window appeared.  I disconnected from the Internet and
 still timed it at 8 seconds, so it is not a case of SeaMonkey accessing
 the Internet.

 The second slowness affects rendering.  It is most noticeable at
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html, Section 8 of the W3C's HTML5
 Candidate Recommendation specification.  This is not an issue with
 downloading.  I downloaded the HTML file in 1-2 seconds.  This is
 definitely a rendering issue, seen (1) if I zoom the text and (2) when I
 load into SeaMonkey the downloaded HTML file from my hard drive.  This
 is most likely a Core problem; since I use SeaMonkey as my only browser,
 I am reporting the problem here.
 
 Yes, it could be a Core problem, or a system resources problem, or a video
 drivers problem. But since you offer no comparison, i.e. how the page
 behaves in other browsers, then this may not be a SeaMonkey issue.
 

The second problem -- slow rendering -- appears to be a problem with
either the Web page or my hardware.  I see a similar problem with IE 7.
 I will contact W3C to find out what they might say about it.

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lost 6 months of emails

2012-12-29 Thread jean-pierre bessette
Back in August when the program started constantly asking me if I wanted 
to 'COMPACT NOW?',  I  finally clicked OK to whatever the message was in 
the hope that it would stop asking me the question.


Instead it seemed to compact almost constantly, causing a 'fluttering' 
of the script on my emails and making them almost unreadable.  So I 
looked for a way to reverse what I had done and made a bit mistake.  As 
I searched through the '\help' options I came across one that offered  
Restart with add-ons disabled


When I clicked on yes, the program reverted to a new installation, and I 
lost all emails, including all those that I had saved for the previous 6 
months since I had bought this computer.  Unfortunately I could not find 
a way to reverse what I had just done.
I have just switched over to Thunderbird, and all the current email 
lists have imported completely.


Does anyone have any idea how I might retrieve those lost emails in Sea 
Monkey - personal ones with photos are the ones I would like to retrieve 
- or are they gone completely?


jp
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Re: Moving Profile

2012-12-29 Thread Rob
Larry H laze...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Is there a simple process used to move my profile from 1.x to 2.x Seamonkey?

You have waited way too long to upgrade.
The current 2.14.1 version of Seamonkey cannot convert 1.x profiles
anymore.

When you really want to convert it, first install version 2.0 of Seamonkey,
then you can convert your profile, and then you install 2.14.1 and it
will be available to you.
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Re: lost 6 months of emails

2012-12-29 Thread Iceman
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:58:26 -0500, jean-pierre bessette wrote in message
news:mailman.5219.1356814733.32706.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org:

 Back in August when the program started constantly asking me if I wanted 
 to 'COMPACT NOW?',  I  finally clicked OK to whatever the message was in 
 the hope that it would stop asking me the question.
 
 Instead it seemed to compact almost constantly, causing a 'fluttering' 
 of the script on my emails and making them almost unreadable.  So I 
 looked for a way to reverse what I had done and made a bit mistake.  As 
 I searched through the '\help' options I came across one that offered  
 Restart with add-ons disabled
 
 When I clicked on yes, the program reverted to a new installation, and I 
 lost all emails, including all those that I had saved for the previous 6 
 months since I had bought this computer.  Unfortunately I could not find 
 a way to reverse what I had just done.
 I have just switched over to Thunderbird, and all the current email 
 lists have imported completely.
 
 Does anyone have any idea how I might retrieve those lost emails in Sea 
 Monkey - personal ones with photos are the ones I would like to retrieve 
 - or are they gone completely?

SeaMonkey stores its e-mail messages in .msf files. You can do a search for
those and open them with Notepad.

However, I think it's unlikely that attachments such as photos are still
there, if you hadn't saved them separately.
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Re: Slow SeaMonkey

2012-12-29 Thread Paul Bergsagel

David E. Ross wrote:

I have been observing two different ways in which SeaMonkey seems slow.

When I launch SeaMonkey, my home page is my exported bookmarks.html file
on my local hard drive.  I see this home page almost immediately.
However, I cannot scroll, launch a Find dialogue popup, select anything
from the menu bar, select any button on a tool bar, or resize the
browser window for several seconds.  I just now timed it at 8 wall-clock
seconds after the window appeared.  I disconnected from the Internet and
still timed it at 8 seconds, so it is not a case of SeaMonkey accessing
the Internet.

The second slowness affects rendering.  It is most noticeable at
http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html, Section 8 of the W3C's HTML5
Candidate Recommendation specification.  This is not an issue with
downloading.  I downloaded the HTML file in 1-2 seconds.  This is
definitely a rendering issue, seen (1) if I zoom the text and (2) when I
load into SeaMonkey the downloaded HTML file from my hard drive.  This
is most likely a Core problem; since I use SeaMonkey as my only browser,
I am reporting the problem here.

I do not experience any of the slowness you are describing. The w3.org 
page opens within 2 to 5 seconds. I am running SeaMonkey 2.14 using 
MacOS X 10.7.5 using a 24 iMac (late 2006) 2.16 core 2 duo processor.


I do not believe it is a SeaMonkey rendering issue as my computer is not 
the fastest model anymore and I do not see this slowdown you speak of.


BTW you have tried rebooting your computer recently to see if this might 
improve your speed ;) ?

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Re: lost 6 months of emails

2012-12-29 Thread Chris Ilias

On 12-12-29 6:03 PM, Iceman wrote:

SeaMonkey stores its e-mail messages in .msf files. You can do a search for
those and open them with Notepad.


SeaMonkey stores mail in UNIX mbox format. Those are the files without 
an extension. MSF files are summary files that help SeaMonkey display 
header info. If you close SeaMonkey and delete the MSF files for your 
email folders, they will be recreated the next time you open SeaMonkey 
and all your mail will still be there.

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Re: lost 6 months of emails

2012-12-29 Thread Michael Gordon

Iceman wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:58:26 -0500, jean-pierre bessette wrote in message
news:mailman.5219.1356814733.32706.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org:


Back in August when the program started constantly asking me if I wanted
to 'COMPACT NOW?',  I  finally clicked OK to whatever the message was in
the hope that it would stop asking me the question.

Instead it seemed to compact almost constantly, causing a 'fluttering'
of the script on my emails and making them almost unreadable.  So I
looked for a way to reverse what I had done and made a bit mistake.  As
I searched through the '\help' options I came across one that offered 
Restart with add-ons disabled

When I clicked on yes, the program reverted to a new installation, and I
lost all emails, including all those that I had saved for the previous 6
months since I had bought this computer.  Unfortunately I could not find
a way to reverse what I had just done.
I have just switched over to Thunderbird, and all the current email
lists have imported completely.

Does anyone have any idea how I might retrieve those lost emails in Sea
Monkey - personal ones with photos are the ones I would like to retrieve
- or are they gone completely?


SeaMonkey stores its e-mail messages in .msf files. You can do a search for
those and open them with Notepad.

However, I think it's unlikely that attachments such as photos are still
there, if you hadn't saved them separately.



Things may have changed over the past few years, but all Mozilla mail 
accounts have saved the incoming messages in a file called inbox, and 
a data sorted file called inbox.msf.  The .msf file is just a data 
record of all the files in the inbox, it sort the messages to your 
preferences, and displays them in your user interface device.


Since .msf is just a data record, and not the messages themselves we can 
play a little with .msf.  This process is not dangerous to your saved 
messages, but it requires you to pay close attention to the file names. 
extensions, and accounts created for mail.



When you create an e-mail account in SM the program will create a few 
default subfolders for you, one of these is Inbox.  Each separate mail 
account will have these created for you.  For this discussion we will 
assume you have two or more mail accounts, each with a different name 
and configured to save your messages within each mail account (not in 
Locale Folders).  The first account in the list we will call account 1.


In account 1 you will have a sub folder Inbox.  Inside Inbox you will 
have several more folders and files; the two we are interested in are: 
inbox, and inbox.msf.  Do not touch inbox.  Click on inbox.msf and 
rename it to inbox-1.msf.  (The renaming of the .msf file will force SM 
to rebuild the data file from records stored in inbox.  We have 
created a safety feature for you.  In the event something gets really 
screwed up you can then rename inbox-1.msf back to inbox.msf and your 
changes will be restored as previous to this editing.)


All changes to your profile files and contents need to be made with SM 
completely closed, and using a text editor like; NotePad, WordPad, or 
TextPad.


Once you have completed the renaming task you can re-start SM and check 
the messages in Account 1 under its Inbox.


If you are wondering where your accounts profile for SM is located, you 
can find its location in Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings, click on 
Server Settings for account 1 and look at the bottom for Local 
Directory.


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Re: lost 6 months of emails

2012-12-29 Thread Iceman
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 18:31:39 -0500, Chris Ilias wrote in message
news:r5idncol7a3b4elnnz2dnuvz_o-dn...@mozilla.org:

 On 12-12-29 6:03 PM, Iceman wrote:
 SeaMonkey stores its e-mail messages in .msf files. You can do a search for
 those and open them with Notepad.
 
 SeaMonkey stores mail in UNIX mbox format. Those are the files without 
 an extension. MSF files are summary files that help SeaMonkey display 
 header info. If you close SeaMonkey and delete the MSF files for your 
 email folders, they will be recreated the next time you open SeaMonkey 
 and all your mail will still be there.

Thanks, Chris and Michael, for clearing this up.

But where does this leave the OP? Is his e-mail gone forever?
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Re: lost 6 months of emails

2012-12-29 Thread Michael Gordon

Iceman wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 18:31:39 -0500, Chris Ilias wrote in message
news:r5idncol7a3b4elnnz2dnuvz_o-dn...@mozilla.org:


On 12-12-29 6:03 PM, Iceman wrote:

SeaMonkey stores its e-mail messages in .msf files. You can do a search for
those and open them with Notepad.


SeaMonkey stores mail in UNIX mbox format. Those are the files without
an extension. MSF files are summary files that help SeaMonkey display
header info. If you close SeaMonkey and delete the MSF files for your
email folders, they will be recreated the next time you open SeaMonkey
and all your mail will still be there.


Thanks, Chris and Michael, for clearing this up.

But where does this leave the OP? Is his e-mail gone forever?



Because the e-mail messages are stored in the inbox, and the data about 
those email messages is stored in the .msf file there is no danger of 
totally deleting the messages by altering the .msf file.


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Re: Slow SeaMonkey

2012-12-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/29/12 3:28 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 I have been observing two different ways in which SeaMonkey seems slow.

 When I launch SeaMonkey, my home page is my exported bookmarks.html file
 on my local hard drive.  I see this home page almost immediately.
 However, I cannot scroll, launch a Find dialogue popup, select anything
 from the menu bar, select any button on a tool bar, or resize the
 browser window for several seconds.  I just now timed it at 8 wall-clock
 seconds after the window appeared.  I disconnected from the Internet and
 still timed it at 8 seconds, so it is not a case of SeaMonkey accessing
 the Internet.

 The second slowness affects rendering.  It is most noticeable at
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html, Section 8 of the W3C's HTML5
 Candidate Recommendation specification.  This is not an issue with
 downloading.  I downloaded the HTML file in 1-2 seconds.  This is
 definitely a rendering issue, seen (1) if I zoom the text and (2) when I
 load into SeaMonkey the downloaded HTML file from my hard drive.  This
 is most likely a Core problem; since I use SeaMonkey as my only browser,
 I am reporting the problem here.

 I do not experience any of the slowness you are describing. The w3.org 
 page opens within 2 to 5 seconds. I am running SeaMonkey 2.14 using 
 MacOS X 10.7.5 using a 24 iMac (late 2006) 2.16 core 2 duo processor.
 
 I do not believe it is a SeaMonkey rendering issue as my computer is not 
 the fastest model anymore and I do not see this slowdown you speak of.
 
 BTW you have tried rebooting your computer recently to see if this might 
 improve your speed ;) ?
 

The problem with the W3C page is not how quickly it starts rendering.
The problem is how long it takes to complete rendering.

If I go to http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html, the HTML file and
associated CSS and other files download quickly.  I see the beginning of
the page in my browser window quite quickly.  However, several seconds
will elapse before I can scroll, launch a Find dialogue, or zoom the
text.  Once I zoom the text, I must again wait several seconds before I
can scroll, launch a Find dialogue, or again zoom.

I shut down my PC when I go to bed at night and whenever I leave the
house.  Thus, it is rebooted at least daily.

I have observed the same slowness viewing the page as loaded from a
local HTML file on my hard drive.  I have also observed it with IE 7,
which is why I now think this is a W3C problem.

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Re: In sea monkey hotmail problems

2012-12-29 Thread F Murtz

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 12-12-28 7:27 AM, F Murtz wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 12-12-26 10:55 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Hotmail won't accept mouse clicks.
Nuttin happens after my hotmail page opens mouse clicks do nothing.
I did get hotmail to work in IE.


No problems here on my test account (using SeaMonkey 2.14.1 on Mac).

Try something simple like clearing your cache and cookies.


tried that first.
my hotmail page opens and will put ticks in boxes with mouse clicks but
will not open anything or delete ticked mail


If you go to Help--Restart_with_Add-ons_Disabled, does the problem
still occur? If not, the cause is probably an extension.

it worked but what is strange is that when I restarted with addons back 
it worked without the problems.

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