Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16

2013-02-20 Thread Cruz, Jaime

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 19/02/2013 20:01, Ray_Net told the world:

WaltS wrote, On 19/02/2013 20:40:

On 02/19/2013 02:33 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in
support for the
.pdf file format?


What did you have in mind? The current save/open choice seems
optimal, PDF is a
format which seems to lend itself to making that choice on a per-file
basis, so
the current action seems appropriate.



He probably has this in mind.

http://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/02/19/firefox-introduces-pdf-viewer-to-browse-the-web-without-interruption/



I don't like plugins, i prefer to work as now. clicking on a pdf page
let me choice between save the file or open it with the default acrobat
reader.


The whole point of pdf.js is that it's not exactly a plugin. With
plugins, the browser hands the file to an external process and just
reserves a space in the screen for that external process to display the
results. With pdf.js, all the rendering is done inside Gecko itself,
which supposedly makes the experience more smooth and seamless.

With that said... I'll probably end up disabling it. I much prefer
downloading PDFs than reading them online.


If you don't want to read it online, a Right Click/Save As is all you 
need to do.  I've been using PDF.js for months now on 64-bit Ubuntu 
because Adobe never released a 64-bit reader for Linux.  On my 32-bit 
laptop, I have the Adobe plug-in, but it is only Version 9.  Looks like 
Adobe is no longer developing the reader for Linux, so the support for 
PDF.js just makes sense.



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Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16

2013-02-20 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 20/02/2013 09:15, Cruz, Jaime told the world:
 MCBastos wrote:

 The whole point of pdf.js is that it's not exactly a plugin. With
 plugins, the browser hands the file to an external process and just
 reserves a space in the screen for that external process to display the
 results. With pdf.js, all the rendering is done inside Gecko itself,
 which supposedly makes the experience more smooth and seamless.

 With that said... I'll probably end up disabling it. I much prefer
 downloading PDFs than reading them online.


 If you don't want to read it online, a Right Click/Save As is all you 
 need to do.  I've been using PDF.js for months now on 64-bit Ubuntu 
 because Adobe never released a 64-bit reader for Linux.  On my 32-bit 
 laptop, I have the Adobe plug-in, but it is only Version 9.  Looks like 
 Adobe is no longer developing the reader for Linux, so the support for 
 PDF.js just makes sense.

I know that, but not all websites expose the actual PDF on the link in a
right-clickable way, instead using redirects. For those, before I
disabled the PDF plugin, I had to wait for the document to load and
parse (which could take a while, for larger documents) and then use the
save command. Which was annoying.

Also, in my experience paging through a long PDF with lots of pictures
(like, say, a motherboard manual) using a plugin is a dismal experience,
compared to just saving it and reading it locally. And finally, I don't
see much point in reading a PDF online -- PDFs are usually stable
documents (like books) that you probably want to keep at hand even if
your connection fails. The whole point of making a PDF file is that it's
all self-contained like a book, with no external dependencies -- so you
can use it offline.

Since I was going to save the PDFs anyway, disabling the PDF plugin and
letting the download manager or DownThemAll take over streamlined the
process.

I'm going to give pdf.js a try to see if it improves the experience
compared to conventional plugins, but I'm not that optimist.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.15

2013-02-20 Thread NFN Smith

Ken Dixon wrote:

I installed this client yesterday and had it working just fine. Now,
however, it is deleting messages from my Inbox for no apparent reason.

Having reviewed all of my settings and preferences, I'm stumped as to
why, for example, opening the Drafts mailbox causes messages in the
Inbox to disappear.  Sometimes clicking on the message itself has the
same result.  I can read it once but not again.


Have you checked your system clock?

I notice that all three messages that you posted to this newsgroup are 
dated 14 March.


Although there may be other problems you're having, an inaccurate clock 
has great potential for causing all sorts of problems (not just your 
email), especially when it's off by nearly a month, as yours is.


If you have an old computer, chances are pretty high that the system 
battery is nearly dead, and even if you reset the clock, it's likely to 
go off again.


Smith

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SeaMonkey 2.16 shows false characters in mail preview window

2013-02-20 Thread chokito
The mail window preview shows false characters when View  Message Body as 
Original HTML is selected. When select Simple HTML or Plain Text or open 
the mail then the characters are ok. This occurs since SM 2.16 is installed.
The character encoding font is ISO-8859-15.

The characters typed in compose window are:
ä ö ü EURO Ä Ö Ü

The characters shows me in preview window are:
à EURO öÃOE à à à  â ¬
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Re: SeaMonkey stability and security update process

2013-02-20 Thread NFN Smith

jma2...@gmail.com wrote:


Just wondering if all of SeaMonkey's stability and security update
processes come from Mozilla and if they do, is Mozilla planning on
supporting SeaMonkey past 2013?


I won't presume to speak for the developers, but I believe that
Seamonkey is based on the code for both Firefox and Thunderbird.  One of
the effects of this is that when Mozilla releases updates to those two
(including betas), and as a result, there tends to be a lag of about a
day or so before a corresponding to Seamonkey is released.

This is the case, as I write.  Firefox 19.0 and Thunderbird 17.0.3 were
both released yesterday, but http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, the
current version is still reported at 2.15.2.  I would expect 2.16 to
show up for the Windows version in the next few hours, and in Linux
repositories over the next few days.

What reason do you have to believe that the end of support for Seamonkey 
might be imminent?


Smith

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exporting profile

2013-02-20 Thread swaffml
I'm setting up a laptop and would like to export everything from my 
desktop (seamonkey 2.15.2) to the laptop, I have been able to export my 
bookmarks but not my passwords or cookies, can this be done by moving my 
profile from the desktop to the laptop?

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Address book

2013-02-20 Thread Ron
I noticed that some of my address book entries can not be changed, If I 
edit something when I click OK the box stays open, the data changes on 
the screen but upon reopening the address book it is gone. I can fix it 
by recreating the name and deleting the old one, but why just some names?

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Re: exporting profile

2013-02-20 Thread Ed Mullen

swaffml wrote:

I'm setting up a laptop and would like to export everything from my
desktop (seamonkey 2.15.2) to the laptop, I have been able to export my
bookmarks but not my passwords or cookies, can this be done by moving my
profile from the desktop to the laptop?


If your two machines are the same OS version, and have the same drive 
structure, yes.  I do it all the time, just copy the entire contents of 
the profile folder.


If the OS versions are different (say Win 7 to Win XP) you can still do 
this but you'll have to edit the pref.js file on the target computer to 
adjust some of the paths that will be different.


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Re: SeaMonkey stability and security update process

2013-02-20 Thread jma2572
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:00:12 AM UTC-8, NFN Smith wrote:
 jma2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Just wondering if all of SeaMonkey's stability and security update
 
  processes come from Mozilla and if they do, is Mozilla planning on
 
  supporting SeaMonkey past 2013?
 
 
 
 I won't presume to speak for the developers, but I believe that
 
 Seamonkey is based on the code for both Firefox and Thunderbird.  One of
 
 the effects of this is that when Mozilla releases updates to those two
 
 (including betas), and as a result, there tends to be a lag of about a
 
 day or so before a corresponding to Seamonkey is released.
 
 
 
 This is the case, as I write.  Firefox 19.0 and Thunderbird 17.0.3 were
 
 both released yesterday, but http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, the
 
 current version is still reported at 2.15.2.  I would expect 2.16 to
 
 show up for the Windows version in the next few hours, and in Linux
 
 repositories over the next few days.
 
 
 
 What reason do you have to believe that the end of support for Seamonkey 
 
 might be imminent?
 
 
 
 Smith

Thank you for the reply. According this article 
http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/
 Mozilla [has] a solid plan to support Thunderbird until the second half of 
2013 and are discussing how [they] support it beyond that date. which makes 
the future of Thunderbird unclear. I work for an academic institution so I just 
want to find potential replacements for Thunderbird if somehow support ended 
and SeaMonkey would only be a viable option if I was sure Mozilla would 
continue to support it past 2013. I would someone to confirm this.
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Re: Will Thunderbird's Situation Affect SeaMonkey?

2013-02-20 Thread jma2572
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:43:25 PM UTC-8, WaltS wrote:
 On 02/13/2013 06:11 PM, hawker wrote:
 
  On 2/13/2013 5:55 PM, WaltS wrote:
 
  On 02/13/2013 05:17 PM, jma2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Mozilla announced that they will stop developing Thunderbird (leaving
 
  that to open source developers) and continue to support till Dec 2013
 
  (what happens after is unknown). Will any of this affect the
 
  development and support of SeaMonkey?
 
 
 
 
 
  Where was that announcement?
 
 
 
  Thunderbird 24.0 is due to be released on 2013-09-17, and will be
 
  supported for at least a year.
 
 
 
  https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases
 
 
 
  As far as SeaMonkey is concerned.
 
 
 
  http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=12377459#p12377459
 
 
 
 
 
  It's old news from last July range.
 
 
 
  http://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2012/07/adjusting-the-way-thunderbird-is-managed/
 
 
 
  https://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2012/07/06/thunderbird-stability-and-community-innovation/
 
 
 
 
 
 What is old news? That Thunderbird 17.0 ESR will reach EOL in December 
 
 after Thunderbird 24.0 ESR is released?
 
 
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/img/esr/tb-esr-plan.png
 
 
 
 jma2572 stated support stops in Dec 2013 and we don't know what happens 
 
 after that.
 
 
 
 I would like to see his reference for that statement.
 
 
 
 I see nothing here.
 
 
 
 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/New_Release_and_Governance_Model
 
 
 
 https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tb-releases
 
 
 
 https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/
 
 
 
 SeaMonkey continues to follow the Firefox rapid release plan. A new 
 
 version every six weeks.
 
 
 
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 Thunderbird Release

Thank you for the replies. According this article 
http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/
 Mozilla [has] a solid plan to support Thunderbird until the second half of 
2013 and are discussing how [they] support it beyond that date. which makes 
the future of Thunderbird unclear. I work for an academic institution so I just 
want to find potential replacements for Thunderbird if somehow support ended 
and SeaMonkey would only be a viable option if I was sure Mozilla would 
continue to support it past 2013. I would someone to confirm this. 
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Re: SeaMonkey stability and security update process

2013-02-20 Thread jma2572
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:00:12 AM UTC-8, NFN Smith wrote:
 jma2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Just wondering if all of SeaMonkey's stability and security update
 
  processes come from Mozilla and if they do, is Mozilla planning on
 
  supporting SeaMonkey past 2013?
 
 
 
 I won't presume to speak for the developers, but I believe that
 
 Seamonkey is based on the code for both Firefox and Thunderbird.  One of
 
 the effects of this is that when Mozilla releases updates to those two
 
 (including betas), and as a result, there tends to be a lag of about a
 
 day or so before a corresponding to Seamonkey is released.
 
 
 
 This is the case, as I write.  Firefox 19.0 and Thunderbird 17.0.3 were
 
 both released yesterday, but http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, the
 
 current version is still reported at 2.15.2.  I would expect 2.16 to
 
 show up for the Windows version in the next few hours, and in Linux
 
 repositories over the next few days.
 
 
 
 What reason do you have to believe that the end of support for Seamonkey 
 
 might be imminent?
 
 
 
 Smith

Thank you for the reply. According this article 
http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/
 Mozilla [has] a solid plan to support Thunderbird until the second half of 
2013 and are discussing how [they] support it beyond that date. which makes 
the future of Thunderbird unclear. I work for an academic institution so I just 
want to find potential replacements for Thunderbird if somehow support ended 
and SeaMonkey would only be a viable option if I was sure Mozilla would 
continue to support it past 2013. I would like someone to confirm this.
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Re: SeaMonkey stability and security update process

2013-02-20 Thread WaltS

On 02/20/2013 12:36 PM, jma2...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:00:12 AM UTC-8, NFN Smith wrote:

jma2...@gmail.com wrote:




Just wondering if all of SeaMonkey's stability and security update



processes come from Mozilla and if they do, is Mozilla planning on



supporting SeaMonkey past 2013?




I won't presume to speak for the developers, but I believe that

Seamonkey is based on the code for both Firefox and Thunderbird.  One of

the effects of this is that when Mozilla releases updates to those two

(including betas), and as a result, there tends to be a lag of about a

day or so before a corresponding to Seamonkey is released.



This is the case, as I write.  Firefox 19.0 and Thunderbird 17.0.3 were

both released yesterday, but http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, the

current version is still reported at 2.15.2.  I would expect 2.16 to

show up for the Windows version in the next few hours, and in Linux

repositories over the next few days.



What reason do you have to believe that the end of support for Seamonkey

might be imminent?



Smith


Thank you for the reply. According this article 
http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/ 
Mozilla [has] a solid plan to support Thunderbird until the second half of 2013 and 
are discussing how [they] support it beyond that date. which makes the future of 
Thunderbird unclear. I work for an academic institution so I just want to find potential 
replacements for Thunderbird if somehow support ended and SeaMonkey would only be a 
viable option if I was sure Mozilla would continue to support it past 2013. I would like 
someone to confirm this.



I don't think Mozilla supports SeaMonkey at all.

SeaMonkey is developed by the SeaMonkey Project, using Mozilla products.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about

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Address book

2013-02-20 Thread Ron

V2.15 but has been this way for a while.
I noticed that some of my address book entries can not be changed, If I 
edit something when I click OK the box stays open, the data changes on 
the screen but upon reopening the address book it is gone. I can fix it 
by recreating the name and deleting the old one, but why just some names?

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Re: SeaMonkey stability and security update process

2013-02-20 Thread jma2572
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:12:57 AM UTC-8, WaltS wrote:
 On 02/20/2013 12:36 PM, jma2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:00:12 AM UTC-8, NFN Smith wrote:
 
  jma2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Just wondering if all of SeaMonkey's stability and security update
 
 
 
  processes come from Mozilla and if they do, is Mozilla planning on
 
 
 
  supporting SeaMonkey past 2013?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  I won't presume to speak for the developers, but I believe that
 
 
 
  Seamonkey is based on the code for both Firefox and Thunderbird.  One of
 
 
 
  the effects of this is that when Mozilla releases updates to those two
 
 
 
  (including betas), and as a result, there tends to be a lag of about a
 
 
 
  day or so before a corresponding to Seamonkey is released.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  This is the case, as I write.  Firefox 19.0 and Thunderbird 17.0.3 were
 
 
 
  both released yesterday, but http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, the
 
 
 
  current version is still reported at 2.15.2.  I would expect 2.16 to
 
 
 
  show up for the Windows version in the next few hours, and in Linux
 
 
 
  repositories over the next few days.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  What reason do you have to believe that the end of support for Seamonkey
 
 
 
  might be imminent?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Smith
 
 
 
  Thank you for the reply. According this article 
  http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/
   Mozilla [has] a solid plan to support Thunderbird until the second half 
  of 2013 and are discussing how [they] support it beyond that date. which 
  makes the future of Thunderbird unclear. I work for an academic institution 
  so I just want to find potential replacements for Thunderbird if somehow 
  support ended and SeaMonkey would only be a viable option if I was sure 
  Mozilla would continue to support it past 2013. I would like someone to 
  confirm this.
 
 
 
 
 
 I don't think Mozilla supports SeaMonkey at all.
 
 
 
 SeaMonkey is developed by the SeaMonkey Project, using Mozilla products.
 
 
 
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about
 
 
 
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 Thunderbird Daily
 
 If we burn in hell, do we freeze in heaven?

Well according to SeaMonkey Project News http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news 
on Feb 4th there was a release stating As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability 
and security update process, SeaMonkey 2.15.2 is now available for Windows, 
Mac, and Linux as a free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. This led me 
to believe that Mozilla still provides support for SeaMonkey. Correct me if I'm 
wrong.
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Composer - Getting Outdent Left (Move Left) to Work

2013-02-20 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi:

When using Composer and adding a new sub title the starting position is indented and after typing the title and then 
clicking on the outdent text (move left) nothing happens.

How to get to to work?

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Re: Composer - Getting Outdent Left (Move Left) to Work

2013-02-20 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi Philip:

I'm using Composer to make and later edit web pages.

When editing a page I often add a new sub title by placing the cursor where I want it located then typing the words and 
selecting something other than body text.
At the point prior to selecting the Heading (#) I sometimes can click on Outdent Left and move my just typed text left, 
but most of the time the outdent button does not work.


For example at:
http://www.prc68.com/I/PT.html

I just added the 2013 subtitle, but to do that I located 2013 below the 2010 subtitle then used CTRL-X to copy and paste 
the 2010 subtitle below the 2013 subtitle.


Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
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Philip TAYLOR wrote:

I see neither title nor sub-title in the list
of insertable entities; in (or from) which menu
are you adding a new sub title ?

Philip Taylor

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

When using Composer and adding a new sub title the starting position is
indented and after typing the title and then clicking on the outdent
text (move left) nothing happens.
How to get to to work?



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Re: Composer - Getting Outdent Left (Move Left) to Work

2013-02-20 Thread Philip TAYLOR
I see neither title nor sub-title in the list
of insertable entities; in (or from) which menu
are you adding a new sub title ?

Philip Taylor

Brooke Clarke wrote:
 Hi:
 
 When using Composer and adding a new sub title the starting position is
 indented and after typing the title and then clicking on the outdent
 text (move left) nothing happens.
 How to get to to work?
 

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Re: coupon printer help!

2013-02-20 Thread Rob
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote:
 program files\seamonkey\plugins
 I have only ONE dll there but i have 10 installed plugins :-)

That location is no longer used for modern plugins.
Each plugin should install itself in its own folder, not inside the
seamonkey installation directory.
Plugins register themself in the registry.

That way, it is no longer required to first install the browser and
then all the plugins, and the plugins also do not get lost when the
browser is uninstalled.   Plus they can be shared between different
browsers.

Alas, the coupon printer plugin does not conform to that standard.
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SeaMonkey 2.16

2013-02-20 Thread David E. Ross
My FTP client found SeaMonkey 2.16 for Windows at releases.mozilla.org.
 Is this an actual end-user release, or should I wait?  The SHA1 hash is
2f3c8bebcbec92e0e50e144e5d5d7883b769cbe5.

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Re: Composer - Getting Outdent Left (Move Left) to Work

2013-02-20 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Well.  I don't really understand what you are doing,
and I certainly don't understand what a sub title
is in the context of a web page. A web page has
a title element, which appears in the head
region, and thereafter in terms of elements that
are more prominent than what Composer calls
Body text, it has six numberered headings :
H1 (most important) to H6 (least important),
all of which must occur in the body region.
Are any of these what you call sub titles ?

Anyhow, to return to the indent/outdent question.
If the text that you want to outdent is

 
 div style=margin-left: 40px;Many years ago while visiting
   various
   Harley Davidson dealers I came across the first Leatherman tool
   and was
   very impressed.nbsp; One small tool that could do many
   things.nbsp;
   Well built.nbsp; Since then there have been many knockoffs, but I
   still have a couple of the first generation Leatherman tools.br
 /div

then just remove the margin-left: 40px; from it.

Philip Taylor

Brooke Clarke wrote:
 Hi Philip:
 
 I'm using Composer to make and later edit web pages.
 
 When editing a page I often add a new sub title by placing the cursor
 where I want it located then typing the words and selecting something
 other than body text.
 At the point prior to selecting the Heading (#) I sometimes can click on
 Outdent Left and move my just typed text left, but most of the time the
 outdent button does not work.
 
 For example at:
 http://www.prc68.com/I/PT.html
 
 I just added the 2013 subtitle, but to do that I located 2013 below the
 2010 subtitle then used CTRL-X to copy and paste the 2010 subtitle below
 the 2013 subtitle.
 
 Have Fun,
 
 Brooke Clarke
 http://www.PRC68.com
 http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html
 
 Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 I see neither title nor sub-title in the list
 of insertable entities; in (or from) which menu
 are you adding a new sub title ?

 Philip Taylor
 
 Brooke Clarke wrote:
 Hi:

 When using Composer and adding a new sub title the starting position is
 indented and after typing the title and then clicking on the outdent
 text (move left) nothing happens.
 How to get to to work?

 
 

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Re: SeaMonkey stability and security update process

2013-02-20 Thread WaltS

On 02/20/2013 02:16 PM, jma2...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:12:57 AM UTC-8, WaltS wrote:

On 02/20/2013 12:36 PM, jma2...@gmail.com wrote:


On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:00:12 AM UTC-8, NFN Smith wrote:



jma2...@gmail.com wrote:















Just wondering if all of SeaMonkey's stability and security update







processes come from Mozilla and if they do, is Mozilla planning on







supporting SeaMonkey past 2013?















I won't presume to speak for the developers, but I believe that







Seamonkey is based on the code for both Firefox and Thunderbird.  One of







the effects of this is that when Mozilla releases updates to those two







(including betas), and as a result, there tends to be a lag of about a







day or so before a corresponding to Seamonkey is released.















This is the case, as I write.  Firefox 19.0 and Thunderbird 17.0.3 were







both released yesterday, but http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, the







current version is still reported at 2.15.2.  I would expect 2.16 to







show up for the Windows version in the next few hours, and in Linux







repositories over the next few days.















What reason do you have to believe that the end of support for Seamonkey







might be imminent?















Smith







Thank you for the reply. According this article 
http://blog.mozilla.org/beyond-the-code/2012/07/09/about-the-future-of-thunderbird/ 
Mozilla [has] a solid plan to support Thunderbird until the second half of 2013 and 
are discussing how [they] support it beyond that date. which makes the future of 
Thunderbird unclear. I work for an academic institution so I just want to find potential 
replacements for Thunderbird if somehow support ended and SeaMonkey would only be a 
viable option if I was sure Mozilla would continue to support it past 2013. I would like 
someone to confirm this.








I don't think Mozilla supports SeaMonkey at all.



SeaMonkey is developed by the SeaMonkey Project, using Mozilla products.



http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about





Well according to SeaMonkey Project News http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news on Feb 4th 
there was a release stating As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security 
update process, SeaMonkey 2.15.2 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free 
download from www.seamonkey-project.org. This led me to believe that Mozilla still 
provides support for SeaMonkey. Correct me if I'm wrong.



Only logical since SeaMonkey follows the Firefox rapid release cycle.

If you check this page. You will see SeaMonkey is not listed as a product.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/

Following the link in See even more awesome software based on Mozilla 
technologies. near the bottom of that page, you will find a link to 
SeaMonkey.


Also links to Lightning/Sunbird, Camino, Adobe Acrobat, Ample SDK, 
Apica, Aptana Jaxer, Atmail Webmail Client, BlueGriffon, Buzzbird, and 
63 others including Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Lunascape  With 
Lunascape, the three most popular rendering engines (Trident, Gecko, 
WebKit) have been integrated in a single browser. all Powered by Mozilla.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.16

2013-02-20 Thread WaltS

On 02/20/2013 03:03 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

My FTP client found SeaMonkey 2.16 for Windows at releases.mozilla.org.
  Is this an actual end-user release, or should I wait?  The SHA1 hash is
2f3c8bebcbec92e0e50e144e5d5d7883b769cbe5.



Wait.

seamonkey-project.org is still showing 2.15.2.

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Re: exporting profile

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2013-02-20 11:40 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

swaffml wrote:

I'm setting up a laptop and would like to export everything from my
desktop (seamonkey 2.15.2) to the laptop, I have been able to export my
bookmarks but not my passwords or cookies, can this be done by moving my
profile from the desktop to the laptop?


If your two machines are the same OS version, and have the same drive
structure, yes.  I do it all the time, just copy the entire contents of
the profile folder.

If the OS versions are different (say Win 7 to Win XP) you can still do
this but you'll have to edit the pref.js file on the target computer to
adjust some of the paths that will be different.


Editing the prefs.js file is not necessary. There are equivalent 
preferences with relative paths that take over, when the absolute paths 
don't work. Then end with -rel. e.g. mail.server.server1.directory-rel


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Re: exporting profile

2013-02-20 Thread Ed Mullen

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2013-02-20 11:40 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

swaffml wrote:

I'm setting up a laptop and would like to export everything from my
desktop (seamonkey 2.15.2) to the laptop, I have been able to export my
bookmarks but not my passwords or cookies, can this be done by moving my
profile from the desktop to the laptop?


If your two machines are the same OS version, and have the same drive
structure, yes.  I do it all the time, just copy the entire contents of
the profile folder.

If the OS versions are different (say Win 7 to Win XP) you can still do
this but you'll have to edit the pref.js file on the target computer to
adjust some of the paths that will be different.


Editing the prefs.js file is not necessary. There are equivalent
preferences with relative paths that take over, when the absolute paths
don't work. Then end with -rel. e.g. mail.server.server1.directory-rel



Really?  Have you tested this, Chris?  A copy over from a Win 7 system 
to a Win XP system?


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Re: Address book

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Chee
On 21/02/2013 03:02, Ron wrote:
 V2.15 but has been this way for a while.
 I noticed that some of my address book entries can not be changed, If I 
 edit something when I click OK the box stays open, the data changes on 
 the screen but upon reopening the address book it is gone. I can fix it 
 by recreating the name and deleting the old one, but why just some names?

This should have been fixed in 2.15.1 or 2.15.2. And anyway 2.16 should
be out now.

Phil

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Re: pdf and SeaMonkey 2.16

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:22:44 -0800, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 2/19/13 11:22 AM, WaltS wrote:
 Paul Bergsagel wrote:
 Will SeaMonkey 2.16 (the next major release) include built-in support
 for the .pdf file format?

 
 Doubt it.
 
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.16/
 
 
 The release notes indicate:
 SSL-related warning prompts (leaving or entering a secure site,
 viewing mixed content) have been replaced by less intrusive,
 non-modal notification bars.  
 
 Is there a way (e.g., a preference variable) to keep the dialogue popup?

Yes. You can write an extension.

Phil

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