Re: Security problem with Seamonkey

2013-12-20 Thread Wolf

Rob schrieb, Am 20.12.2013 08:46:

Wolf nomail@nomail.invalid wrote:


Again:
I have Seamonkey and Firefox installed, both Seamonkey and Firefox are
using the same  Flash Player Plug-in. Flash Player Plug-in is controlled
by Prefbar (on/off), in SM and FF.

BetterPrivacy deletes
   /Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol
for both SM and FF, and only Seamonkey is rebuilding the Flash path and
file. Which I have to delete for SM using a file manager.

Though, I am quite sure this is a *severe security problem* with SeaMonkey.


You have not demonstrated that it still happens when Flashplayer has been
de-installed.
I think it is Flashplayer that creates that path.

Please explain why SeaMonkey is allowing the Flash Player plug-in 
rebuilding the Flash path and file and why Firefox does not.


IMHO Firefox is doing it right,  Seamonkey not.

Greetings
Wolf

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Re: Security problem with Seamonkey

2013-12-20 Thread GerardJan

Rob wrote:

Wolf nomail@nomail.invalid wrote:

I don't think it is.  Deinstall the flash player and try again.



Again:
I have Seamonkey and Firefox installed, both Seamonkey and Firefox are
using the same  Flash Player Plug-in. Flash Player Plug-in is controlled
by Prefbar (on/off), in SM and FF.

BetterPrivacy deletes
   /Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol
for both SM and FF, and only Seamonkey is rebuilding the Flash path and
file. Which I have to delete for SM using a file manager.

Though, I am quite sure this is a *severe security problem* with SeaMonkey.


You have not demonstrated that it still happens when Flashplayer has been
de-installed.
I think it is Flashplayer that creates that path.
http://www.redhat.com/



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Re: Security problem with Seamonkey

2013-12-20 Thread Hartmut Figge
Wolf:

Please explain why SeaMonkey is allowing the Flash Player plug-in 
rebuilding the Flash path and file and why Firefox does not.

I have now tested what happens with my Linux x86_64 SM 2.26a1 where
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 is installed. It is set to Always Activate.

In my home i have a link pointing from ~/.macromedia to /tmp. As a
result of that flash uses /tmp/Flash Player which is automatically
cleared when i shut down my machine. Happens usually daily.

Now i have closed SM, deleted /tmp/Flash Player and started SM again.
The folder wasn't recreated. Then i called gulli.com in the browser, a
side with flash. No new folder. Only after clicking on a video the
folder /tmp/Flash Player was created.

media.autoplay.enabled is set to false.

Hartmut
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Re: Security problem with Seamonkey

2013-12-20 Thread Adrian Kalla
Dnia 12/20/2013 07:00 AM, Użytkownik Wolf napisał:
 Again:
 I have Seamonkey and Firefox installed, both Seamonkey and Firefox are
 using the same  Flash Player Plug-in. Flash Player Plug-in is controlled
 by Prefbar (on/off), in SM and FF.
 
 BetterPrivacy deletes
  /Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol
 for both SM and FF, and only Seamonkey is rebuilding the Flash path and
 file. Which I have to delete for SM using a file manager.
 
 Though, I am quite sure this is a *severe security problem* with SeaMonkey.


I'd be quite surprised, if it was. Try to uninstall *any* extension,
that may try to mess with Flash (alternatively start SeaMonkey in
safe-moge (seamonkey -safe-mode), especially *BetterPrivacy*, as it is
not only maintained anymore - the last version does explicitly even not
support SeaMonkey. Then restart SeaMonkey.

Best,
Adrian

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Re: V2.23 and Macintosh Mavericks OS

2013-12-20 Thread Philip Chee
On 20/12/2013 14:38, Rufus wrote:

 If I could customize the color of the window trim on the SM Modern Theme 
 it would be dead-solid perfection!
 
 While having the silver-grey OS X window interface bar hanging over the 
 blueish SM Toolbar presentation isn't really annoying, it would be a 
 nice touch to be able to match their color...or even select any other of 
 my own choosing.  Just a thought...that's certainly one of the things 
 that makes Thunderbird look so nice behind Safari.

A bit of userChrome.css should be able to fix that.

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(no subject)

2013-12-20 Thread GerardJan

File: libflashplayer.so
Path: /usr/lib64/seamonkey/plugins/libflashplayer.so
Version: 11,2,202,332
State: Enabled
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

MIME Type   Description Suffixes
application/x-shockwave-flash   Shockwave Flash swf
application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player
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Re: V2.23 and Macintosh Mavericks OS

2013-12-20 Thread Rufus

Philip Chee wrote:

On 20/12/2013 14:38, Rufus wrote:


If I could customize the color of the window trim on the SM Modern Theme
it would be dead-solid perfection!

While having the silver-grey OS X window interface bar hanging over the
blueish SM Toolbar presentation isn't really annoying, it would be a
nice touch to be able to match their color...or even select any other of
my own choosing.  Just a thought...that's certainly one of the things
that makes Thunderbird look so nice behind Safari.


A bit of userChrome.css should be able to fix that.

Phil



Good point...I'll look into that.  Anyplace I can find detailed info on 
the bones of the SM Modern Theme itself?


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Version 2.23 problem with mail searches

2013-12-20 Thread Marisa Ciceran
I used the mail search functions frequently, and noticed very quickly 
after SeaMonkey automatically upgraded to version 2.23 that the search 
feature is malfunctioning now. Attempting a search within a specified 
folder, instead of the program generating results for only for that 
folder, it gives results for every folder under Local folders.


Is this a known problem with the latest upgrade or is there a change in 
the way to do mail searches which I should know about?


Thanks,

Marisa
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Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

2013-12-20 Thread Dick Hoffman
(This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I 
can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. 
Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors, 
graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed. 
However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email 
accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain 
text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is there 
something I can change to retain the original formatting?

Dick Hoffman
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Re: Version 2.23 problem with mail searches

2013-12-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Marisa Ciceran wrote:


I used the mail search functions frequently, and noticed very quickly
after SeaMonkey automatically upgraded to version 2.23 that the
search feature is malfunctioning now. Attempting a search within a
specified folder, instead of the program generating results for only
for that folder, it gives results for every folder under Local
folders.

Is this a known problem with the latest upgrade or is there a change
in the way to do mail searches which I should know about?


Not my experience, seems to work normally here.

At the top of the search window, where it says Search for messages in: 
I assume you've specified the desired folder? And is Search subfolders 
checked or not?


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Re: Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

2013-12-20 Thread BIll Spikowski
Dick Hoffman wrote:
 (This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I 
 can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. 
 Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors, 
 graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed. 
 However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email 
 accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain 
 text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is there 
 something I can change to retain the original formatting?


After you click forward but before you forward the message to your
wife, is the HTML formatting still present, or gone already?

I have the same situation, and the formatting is gone already. My
workaround is to hold down the shift key when clicking forward or
reply.

If your formatting is still visible on your computer but gone when the
email reaches your wife, your problem is different!

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Re: New query, send to mail recipient option

2013-12-20 Thread Rick Merrill

azed13 wrote:

Has a workaround been found for the failure of Seamonkey Mail Client to open 
when
send to mail recipient is selected for images, etc. 2.22.1 still opens a new
browser page not mail. This is a feature that I have often used in conjunction 
with
digital photo programs and with the holidays I find a real need since my mail 
servers
have little tolerance for multiple photo e-mails.

azed13



SM 2.23 fixes !

Gratefully,


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Re: Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

2013-12-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Dick Hoffman wrote:


(This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I
can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3 system.
Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors,
graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed.
However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email
accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain
text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is there
something I can change to retain the original formatting?


A couple of places to start:

1) Are you forwarding inline or as attachment? The latter should 
preserve formatting.


2) Is the message that contains the forwarded message a plain-text or 
HTML message? If you're forwarding as attachment, it shouldn't matter, 
but if you're forwarding inline, you should do so as HTML to preserve 
formatting.


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SeaMonkey Flash plug in problem/question

2013-12-20 Thread chicagofan
Using SM 2.17.1 trying to run some speed tests on my cable service, and 
I find that Adobe Flashand Java are disabled and nothing will run.


So I click on the SM update now button which takes me to a Mozilla 
page to click update now again  and that one results in a page 
that appears to say... to use that update I must install McAfee which I 
will not do.


So what are my options to display these tests using SeaMonkey?  :(
bj
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Re: Security problem with Seamonkey

2013-12-20 Thread EE

Wolf wrote:

Hi,

I think it started with Seamonkey 2.19, that SM will rewrite the flash
directories upon closing.  On my 32 Bit Linux Mint 13 system it is in my
home directory:


.macromedia/Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol


When I delete
Flash_Player/macromedia.com/support/flashplayer/sys/settings.sol
Seamonkey is reconstructing the whole path including the settings.sol
file upon closing.

This is specific with SeaMonkey,  the browser part of Seamonkey, it does
not happen with Firefox. May be that is the reason why BetterPrivacy
is no longer supported for Seamonkey.

Greetings
Wolf

Making the settings.sol file read-only might help.  I had a problem with 
the settings in settings.sol being constantly changed to defaults, and 
made the file read-only to stop that.  I am using BetterPrivacy with 
SeaMonkey and it is working.


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Re: How to delete individual items from the upper toolbar history list?

2013-12-20 Thread EE

Zeb Carter wrote:

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 14 décembre 2013, Geoff Welsh a écrit :


Mort wrote:

 Hi,

 When I open up the upper toolbar area, where one types in an URL to go
 to, there is a dropdown list of all the recent URLs that I have
visited.

 How can I delete individual URLs from that list?

 Thank you.

 Mort Linder



you can't.  This is a known issue for 12 years:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87098


You can't delete them from within the list, but they will disappear if
you remove them from history (IIRC, I did this a few times).


Actually you can - if you have SQLite Manger Extension installed.


You can remove them from location bar history, but that will remove all 
of the location bar saved items.


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Re: Question about Newsgroup settings

2013-12-20 Thread chicagofan

EE wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Since I've upgraded to SM 2.17.1, I've found when I search for even
recent newsgroups messages that I've previously read, there are none
there. It's as if once you read anything, it just disappears. Has
anything changed about this that I can change back through the settings?
bj


I have SeaMonkey set not to load newsgroup messages marked as read, 
but that was copied from Thunderbird when I installed SM. That setting 
is not normally present at all, from what I can see. I had to find it 
in about:config.  I would also be interested to know if there is any 
other way of changing that setting.




I found that the ability to retrieve read messages in the Search box 
is still possible.  I had to change my VIEW *Messages* to ALL; and VIEW 
Threads to UNREAD.  This way SM only displays unread messages, but 
readmessages are still accessible through Search when needed.


To see these options from the Menu Bar under View... you must select a 
newsgroup, not the newsgroup server.  Does that help?

bj
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Re: Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

2013-12-20 Thread Dick Hoffman

On 12/20/2013 4:12 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:

Dick Hoffman wrote:

(This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I
can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3 system.
Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors,
graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed.
However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email
accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain
text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is there
something I can change to retain the original formatting?



After you click forward but before you forward the message to your
wife, is the HTML formatting still present, or gone already?

I have the same situation, and the formatting is gone already. My
workaround is to hold down the shift key when clicking forward or
reply.

If your formatting is still visible on your computer but gone when the
email reaches your wife, your problem is different!

My experience is the same as yours. After selecting Forward but before 
selecting Send the formatting is gone. Your workaround also works for 
me. Thanks for replying. I'd still like to know if there's a Preference 
that could change this behavior but now I have a way around it.

Dick
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Re: SeaMonkey Flash plug in problem/question

2013-12-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/20/2013 1:37 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 Using SM 2.17.1 trying to run some speed tests on my cable service, and 
 I find that Adobe Flashand Java are disabled and nothing will run.
 
 So I click on the SM update now button which takes me to a Mozilla 
 page to click update now again  and that one results in a page 
 that appears to say... to use that update I must install McAfee which I 
 will not do.
 
 So what are my options to display these tests using SeaMonkey?  :(
 bj
 

Go directly to the sources for both Flash and Java.

For Flash, go to
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html.  Be sure
to select the second set for Plugin-based browsers and NOT the first
set for Internet Explorer.

For Java, go to http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp.  Since you
seem to be using an x64 Windows, select the 64-bit Windows version for
downloading.

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Re: SeaMonkey Flash plug in problem/question

2013-12-20 Thread chicagofan

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/20/2013 1:37 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Using SM 2.17.1 trying to run some speed tests on my cable service, and
I find that Adobe Flashand Java are disabled and nothing will run.

So I click on the SM update now button which takes me to a Mozilla
page to click update now again  and that one results in a page
that appears to say... to use that update I must install McAfee which I
will not do.

So what are my options to display these tests using SeaMonkey?  :(
bj


Go directly to the sources for both Flash and Java.

For Flash, go to
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html.  Be sure
to select the second set for Plugin-based browsers and NOT the first
set for Internet Explorer.

For Java, go to http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp.  Since you
seem to be using an x64 Windows, select the 64-bit Windows version for
downloading.



For Flash - MSI Installer or .EXE Installer?

Thanks, David!
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Re: Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

2013-12-20 Thread W3BNR
On 12/20/2013 4:12 PM BIll Spikowski submitted the following:
 Dick Hoffman wrote:
 (This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I 
 can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. 
 Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors, 
 graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed. 
 However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email 
 accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain 
 text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is there 
 something I can change to retain the original formatting?
 
 
 After you click forward but before you forward the message to your
 wife, is the HTML formatting still present, or gone already?
 
 I have the same situation, and the formatting is gone already. My
 workaround is to hold down the shift key when clicking forward or
 reply.
 
 If your formatting is still visible on your computer but gone when the
 email reaches your wife, your problem is different!

Yes, Shift+Forward works.  An undocumented feature(?).  At least I can't
find it in the help file in any of the short-cut sections.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: V2.23 and Macintosh Mavericks OS

2013-12-20 Thread Geoff Welsh

Trane Francks wrote:





Reds, greens, golds and cartoon-looking buttons? Seriously?

http://www.living-intentionally.com/media/images/SM-Default.png




um, yeah, that's what the picture shows.  There's also blue and purple.

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Re: SeaMonkey Flash plug in problem/question

2013-12-20 Thread Larry S.

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/20/2013 1:37 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Using SM 2.17.1 trying to run some speed tests on my cable service, and
I find that Adobe Flashand Java are disabled and nothing will run.

So I click on the SM update now button which takes me to a Mozilla
page to click update now again  and that one results in a page
that appears to say... to use that update I must install McAfee which I
will not do.

So what are my options to display these tests using SeaMonkey?  :(
bj



Go directly to the sources for both Flash and Java.

For Flash, go to
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html.  Be sure
to select the second set for Plugin-based browsers and NOT the first
set for Internet Explorer.

For Java, go to http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp.  Since you
seem to be using an x64 Windows, select the 64-bit Windows version for
downloading.

The Java site says We have detected you may be viewing this page in a 
32-bit browser. Hmm, thought that's what SM was. So, which one? Or both?


Grateful for help to this non-tech.

Larry S.
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Re: Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

2013-12-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

W3BNR wrote:

On 12/20/2013 4:12 PM BIll Spikowski submitted the following:

Dick Hoffman wrote:

(This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I
can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3 system.
Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors,
graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed.
However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email
accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain
text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is there
something I can change to retain the original formatting?



After you click forward but before you forward the message to your
wife, is the HTML formatting still present, or gone already?

I have the same situation, and the formatting is gone already. My
workaround is to hold down the shift key when clicking forward or
reply.

If your formatting is still visible on your computer but gone when the
email reaches your wife, your problem is different!


Yes, Shift+Forward works.  An undocumented feature(?).  At least I can't
find it in the help file in any of the short-cut sections.


There are several similar features:

Shift-Compose creates a new HTML message.

Shift-Reply replies in HTML to an incoming message.

Shift-Reply All replies in HTML to all senders and recipients (From, To, 
Cc, Bcc) of an incoming message.


Shift-Forward forwards a message in HTML.


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Re: Forwarded email loses HTML formatting

2013-12-20 Thread regz91

Dick Hoffman wrote:

(This is probably due to something I've got set in Preferences but I
can't find what it is.) I'm running SM 2.23 on a Windows XP-SP3 system.
Emails sent to me in HTML appear correctly when I view them. Colors,
graphics and formatting are all preserved and displayed as composed.
However, if I forward the email to my wife, or to another of my email
accounts, the HTML is stripped away and the message is sent in plain
text, losing all original formatting. What is controlling this? Is there
something I can change to retain the original formatting?
Dick Hoffman

What is send format set in
Edit == Preferences == Mail  Newsgroups == Send Format
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Re: V2.23 and Macintosh Mavericks OS

2013-12-20 Thread PhillipJones

Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 12:42 PM +0900, Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 4:17 AM +0900, Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/19/13 2:40 AM +0900, EE wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

gnaan...@gmail.com wrote:

The new SeaMonkey version is totally not compatible in
presentation
with the new Mavericks OS from MacIntosh (Apple) All the pages
are
different and most of the page graphics are gone presenting a
50%
blank page.  Log-in buttons no longer show up for Amazon or Ebay
and
Images under Google search are not accessible as no search
button
shows up? A lot of graphics in emails that were previously
visible
(Such as a COSTCO AD) are now blank and can only be seen if
you hit
the forward setting for the email. All this dysfunction makes
Seamonkey not usable at this time so I am moving over to Firefox
which
still works with Mavericks. Hopefully, the next version will be
Mavericks Compatible?



I'm using SeaMonkey 2.23 on Mavericks

This is what mine looks like:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQ65mKK_cF5eFlNRlMzb3p2U3M/edit?usp=sharing









Phillip, clicking your link basically gets me a blank'ish page!


That's odd I clicked on it and worked fine and its supposed to be a
Public link.


What I really notice is that most of the text in the interface is in
italics.  Is that deliberate, or are the fonts not working properly?


It sure served up a great reminder of how elegant the Default
theme is
compared to Modern on OS X. LOL



I can't stand the Defaut Theme...it looks jumbled, muddle, and
confusing
to me.  I don't need or want to see all those disjointed colors.

SM Mondern Theme forever on my installs - Mac OS and/or Win7!


You're certainly not describing the Default theme on OS X. The Default
theme on OS X has the classical Mac app look since SM 2.0. From the
release notes: The default theme on Mac OS X was completely renewed to
better fit with the look of Leopard and Snow Leopard.

It's beautiful.



As I type this, I'm looking at the SM Default Theme...and it looks like
crap to me.  Reds, blues, greens, golds...cartoon looking buttons that
don't come *close* to mirroring my OS 10.7.8 interface at all.  Nothing
like the nice uniform look of the SM Modern Theme...which I *LOVE*...

To each their own, but I really hate the Default Theme and will be
changing back to it right after I hit Send.


Reds, greens, golds and cartoon-looking buttons? Seriously?

http://www.living-intentionally.com/media/images/SM-Default.png

That is the Default theme. Is that what you think looks so bad? *blink*



Yes - this is the Theme I hate.  It totally blows the feel of the rest
of my generally uniform silver OS X interface.  I don't need color
pictures in my buttons...just a simple iconic indicating function will
do nicely.

Other than being blue vice sliver I find the nice uniform SM Modern
Theme (which at one time *was* the Default) *much* easier to look at.
YMMV.

I don't like it either I am currently SeaMonkey Modern, I don't that as 
well. But Have since my Fav Orbit 3 +1 isn't being updated.


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Re: V2.23 and Macintosh Mavericks OS

2013-12-20 Thread PhillipJones

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 3:31 PM +0900, Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 11:23 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/20/13 4:17 AM +0900, Rufus wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 12/19/13 2:40 AM +0900, EE wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

gnaan...@gmail.com wrote:

The new SeaMonkey version is totally not compatible in
presentation
with the new Mavericks OS from MacIntosh (Apple) All the pages
are
different and most of the page graphics are gone presenting
a 50%
blank page. Log-in buttons no longer show up for Amazon or
Ebay and
Images under Google search are not accessible as no search
button
shows up? A lot of graphics in emails that were previously
visible
(Such as a COSTCO AD) are now blank and can only be seen if
you hit
the forward setting for the email. All this dysfunction makes
Seamonkey not usable at this time so I am moving over to
Firefox
which
still works with Mavericks. Hopefully, the next version will be
Mavericks Compatible?



I'm using SeaMonkey 2.23 on Mavericks

This is what mine looks like:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQ65mKK_cF5eFlNRlMzb3p2U3M/edit?usp=sharing









Phillip, clicking your link basically gets me a blank'ish page!


That's odd I clicked on it and worked fine and its supposed to
be a
Public link.


What I really notice is that most of the text in the interface
is in
italics. Is that deliberate, or are the fonts not working properly?


It sure served up a great reminder of how elegant the Default
theme is
compared to Modern on OS X. LOL



I can't stand the Defaut Theme...it looks jumbled, muddle, and
confusing
to me. I don't need or want to see all those disjointed colors.

SM Mondern Theme forever on my installs - Mac OS and/or Win7!


You're certainly not describing the Default theme on OS X. The Default
theme on OS X has the classical Mac app look since SM 2.0. From the
release notes: The default theme on Mac OS X was completely
renewed to
better fit with the look of Leopard and Snow Leopard.

It's beautiful.



you need to make a collage of screen shots or something.  I run Modern
on OSX 10.4, Modern on OSX 10.5, and Modern on OSX 10.6 and they all
look exactly the same, and they all fit.

GW


I'm not talking about running Modern. I used to run Modern on Linux and
liked it, but when SM 2.0 was released and I saw the revised Default
theme for OS X, I switched. It looks like a proper Mac app now, whereas
the Modern theme (to my eye) looks like something you'd find elsewhere.

Different strokes, but I prefer the clean, uncluttered look of Default.

Default for SM on OS X:

http://www.living-intentionally.com/media/images/SM-Default.png



Can't stand that one...looks PlaySkool.  And cluttered visually, with
all the colors...I'll stick with SM Modern.


Interesting. For me, the coloured buttons don't even strike me as
colours. For me, the predominant colour is aluminum, matching the rest
of the OS X interface. And the coloured buttons are as colourful as the
Finder icons in Snow Leopard.

I'm on Lion and find the lack of colour troubling. You might find
computing nirvana with the drab grey of Lion and the monotone of Modern. :)

Cheers and thanks for a good conversation. :)

trane


Mavericks is Worse. And makes it tough on people with eye problems.

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Re: SeaMonkey Flash plug in problem/question

2013-12-20 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/20/2013 4:47 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/20/2013 1:37 PM, chicagofan wrote:
 Using SM 2.17.1 trying to run some speed tests on my cable service, and
 I find that Adobe Flashand Java are disabled and nothing will run.

 So I click on the SM update now button which takes me to a Mozilla
 page to click update now again  and that one results in a page
 that appears to say... to use that update I must install McAfee which I
 will not do.

 So what are my options to display these tests using SeaMonkey?  :(
 bj

 Go directly to the sources for both Flash and Java.

 For Flash, go to
 http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html.  Be sure
 to select the second set for Plugin-based browsers and NOT the first
 set for Internet Explorer.

 For Java, go to http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp.  Since you
 seem to be using an x64 Windows, select the 64-bit Windows version for
 downloading.

 
 For Flash - MSI Installer or .EXE Installer?
 
 Thanks, David!
 bj
 

With Windows 7, I don't think it makes a difference.  I generally choose
the .exe file.


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Re: Question about Newsgroup settings

2013-12-20 Thread regz91

EE wrote:

One would think that the send command would be prominent on the mail
toolbar.


I see a prominent send button in all compose windows
Is Mail Toolbar enabled under View == Show/Hide == Mail Toolbar when 
opening a compose window/new mail window



EE wrote: To compose a new post, the
 group(s) name must be added manually.


I click on the newsgroup that i want to send my message and then click 
on the new message  icon and SeaMonkey automatically ads relevant group


EE wrote:
I still haven't found where history is.

If you mean your old sent messages then it would be under Left Pane == 
Local Folder == Sent folder


In order to save old messages on disk then you need to enable it using

Mail application window == Edit == Mail  Newsgroups Account Settings 
== Select appropriate newsgroup account == Synchronisation  Storage 
==Message Synchronisation ==click on button Select newsgroups for 
offline use == Mark/select newsgroups whose data needs to be stored 
offline.


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Re: SeaMonkey Flash plug in problem/question

2013-12-20 Thread regz91

Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/20/2013 1:37 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Using SM 2.17.1 trying to run some speed tests on my cable service, and
I find that Adobe Flashand Java are disabled and nothing will run.

So I click on the SM update now button which takes me to a Mozilla
page to click update now again  and that one results in a page
that appears to say... to use that update I must install McAfee which I
will not do.

So what are my options to display these tests using SeaMonkey?  :(
bj



Go directly to the sources for both Flash and Java.

For Flash, go to
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html.  Be sure
to select the second set for Plugin-based browsers and NOT the first
set for Internet Explorer.

For Java, go to http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp.  Since you
seem to be using an x64 Windows, select the 64-bit Windows version for
downloading.


The Java site says We have detected you may be viewing this page in a
32-bit browser. Hmm, thought that's what SM was. So, which one? Or both?

Grateful for help to this non-tech.

Larry S.


I think we have 64 bit builds of SeaMonkey only for Linux. The windows 
version of SeaMonkey is always a 32 bit browser regardless of whther the 
OS is 32 or 64 bit.

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