Re: Seem To Have Lost Everything...???

2014-05-07 Thread Daniel

On 06/05/14 21:58, A Williams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 06/05/14 00:19, SamuelS wrote:

Hello all - just as I was trying to perform MozBackUp on my Lenovo T61
the system froze and I waited for 10 minutes or so before physically
shutting down the machine.

Upon re-boot I found that a 'new' SeaMonkey window appeared without any
settings or history or profiles available.

I wanted to panic, but no I decided to remain calm and collected as it
appeared that I lost up to 5% of my emails, 100% of my contacts, 100% of
my bookmarks, 100% of my passwords, and just about everything else
stored in SM 2.26.

I know there must be more questions and facts which are left out here,
please let me know what you need in order to assist.

Any insight and assistance is greatly appreciated in figuring out if in
fact it is all lost.

TIA - SamuelS


Alternatively to Rob's advice, have a look at Tools-Switch Profiles. Do
you see more profiles listed there then you would expect?? If so, select
each in turn to see if it's your missing profile!!



The time/date the directory was last updated could be considered a clue.


Sorry, where would you see the time/date the directory was last 
updated, doing it my way??



Backing off one step: Backups are good.  Especially if they are readable.


As always, yes!

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140415200419

or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140408191805

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread Ant

On 5/6/2014 1:22 AM PT, E Wong typed:


So you have two bugs for the price of one.
1. The Load this bookmark in the sidebar option is not working.
2. Once set, you cannot reset the Load this bookmark in the sidebar
option.


Is there a bug filed for this?


I found these old ones a few days ago:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613974
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695425
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613971
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Re: Seem To Have Lost Everything...???

2014-05-07 Thread A Williams

Daniel wrote:

On 06/05/14 21:58, A Williams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 06/05/14 00:19, SamuelS wrote:

Hello all - just as I was trying to perform MozBackUp on my Lenovo T61
the system froze and I waited for 10 minutes or so before physically
shutting down the machine.

Upon re-boot I found that a 'new' SeaMonkey window appeared without any
settings or history or profiles available.

I wanted to panic, but no I decided to remain calm and collected as it
appeared that I lost up to 5% of my emails, 100% of my contacts,
100% of
my bookmarks, 100% of my passwords, and just about everything else
stored in SM 2.26.

I know there must be more questions and facts which are left out here,
please let me know what you need in order to assist.

Any insight and assistance is greatly appreciated in figuring out if in
fact it is all lost.

TIA - SamuelS


Alternatively to Rob's advice, have a look at Tools-Switch Profiles. Do
you see more profiles listed there then you would expect?? If so, select
each in turn to see if it's your missing profile!!



The time/date the directory was last updated could be considered a clue.


Sorry, where would you see the time/date the directory was last
updated, doing it my way??


Backing off one step: Backups are good.  Especially if they are readable.


As always, yes!



Oops, - I was thinking the best way was to look at the various profile 
directories under %appdata%\mozilla\seamonkey and did not check your 
posting closely enough.

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread Ray_Net

Ant wrote, On 07/05/2014 15:33:

On 5/6/2014 1:22 AM PT, E Wong typed:


So you have two bugs for the price of one.
1. The Load this bookmark in the sidebar option is not working.
2. Once set, you cannot reset the Load this bookmark in the sidebar
option.


Is there a bug filed for this?


I found these old ones a few days ago:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613974
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695425
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613971

And the *solution* is ?
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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread sean nathan

nick...@gmail.com wrote:

I felt compelled to write this after the seeing the disaster that Firefox is 
turning into with that new Australis interface.

SeaMonkey developers, you are doing an amazing job. I think the interface is 
excellent, logical and *just works*, especially for desktop.
Please don't feel any need to ruin it in the same way that Firefox has been 
ruined with the dumbed-down Chrome wannabe interface!

If you feel the same, please show your support for SeaMonkey devs. :)



Really have to interject that i do NOT want Seamonkey to remain the 
same if that means the browser becomes more and more unusable over 
time... as things stand now, i only use Seamonkey's e'mail client with 
regularity. The browser is just too slow for modern needs... throws up 
too many irrelevant warnings and annoys me when it won't open sites or 
play sound, or other silly nonsense...


i DO want it to remain the same as a combined e'mail  browser, but only 
if the browser component quits moving like its full of frozen molasses...




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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

sean nathan wrote:

nick...@gmail.com wrote:

I felt compelled to write this after the seeing the disaster that
Firefox is turning into with that new Australis interface.

SeaMonkey developers, you are doing an amazing job. I think the
interface is excellent, logical and *just works*, especially for desktop.
Please don't feel any need to ruin it in the same way that Firefox has
been ruined with the dumbed-down Chrome wannabe interface!

If you feel the same, please show your support for SeaMonkey devs. :)



Really have to interject that i do NOT want Seamonkey to remain the
same if that means the browser becomes more and more unusable over
time... as things stand now, i only use Seamonkey's e'mail client with
regularity. The browser is just too slow for modern needs... throws up
too many irrelevant warnings and annoys me when it won't open sites or
play sound, or other silly nonsense...

i DO want it to remain the same as a combined e'mail  browser, but only
if the browser component quits moving like its full of frozen molasses...


If you don't like the nags, most of them can be turned off. I don't have 
the problems you mention, so if you can be more specific, we can 
probably solve them here.


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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread PhillipJones

sean nathan wrote:

nick...@gmail.com wrote:

I felt compelled to write this after the seeing the disaster that
Firefox is turning into with that new Australis interface.

SeaMonkey developers, you are doing an amazing job. I think the
interface is excellent, logical and *just works*, especially for desktop.
Please don't feel any need to ruin it in the same way that Firefox has
been ruined with the dumbed-down Chrome wannabe interface!

If you feel the same, please show your support for SeaMonkey devs. :)



Really have to interject that i do NOT want Seamonkey to remain the
same if that means the browser becomes more and more unusable over
time... as things stand now, i only use Seamonkey's e'mail client with
regularity. The browser is just too slow for modern needs... throws up
too many irrelevant warnings and annoys me when it won't open sites or
play sound, or other silly nonsense...

i DO want it to remain the same as a combined e'mail  browser, but only
if the browser component quits moving like its full of frozen molasses...



 What we want is increase in speed and efficiency and ability to 
read/Play more audio/video types.


What we referring to when we say no change is no change in the User 
interface to emulate Chrome like FireFox has done. Excuse me  I shout 
just a Few words. They are not insulting to any one.


WE DO NOT WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE 4 YEAR OLD'S.

That what the new UI in the Australis Style FF is Treating us like we 
have the IQ of 4 year Old's. I get along just fine with Menu Bar and 
menus with sub menu.


And FF people say get the UI (theme restorer) Problem is it doesn't It 
about 60 percent does. And Why if there was such a clamoring for the 
Restorer extension, didn't the folks at Mozilla Learn maybe this Chrome 
experience was bad idea.


Now except for SeaMonkey and IE all Browser look a like. You open one 
it’s a carbon copy of 9-10 others.


Folks! We want to be different, look different, think different.

Change the guts to improve how SM works. Yes But leave the UI alone.

Lets compare to MS Windows, Since MS has Changed to Version 8 with all 
the cutesy 4 year Old type Buttons. Many have Reverted back to 7 and 
with Few exception it been panned most Users and  Computer Reporting 
Agencies. I have several Relatives that have switched  to Window 8 and 
hate it worth a passion.


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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread WaltS48

On 05/07/2014 11:01 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote, On 07/05/2014 15:33:

On 5/6/2014 1:22 AM PT, E Wong typed:


So you have two bugs for the price of one.
1. The Load this bookmark in the sidebar option is not working.
2. Once set, you cannot reset the Load this bookmark in the sidebar
option.


Is there a bug filed for this?


I found these old ones a few days ago:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613974
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695425
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613971

And the *solution* is ?



More of the I'm a computer software guy, but don't want to do computer 
stuff anymore to get in involved and start fixing some of the bugs.


SeaMonkey is a part-time all volunteer effort.

Full-time jobs, families, life crisises like all humans, spare time on 
SeaMonkey. When do they sleep?

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Re: Seem To Have Lost Everything...???

2014-05-07 Thread cyberzen

Le 05/05/2014 16:19, SamuelS a écrit :

Hello all - just as I was trying to perform MozBackUp on my Lenovo T61
the system froze and I waited for 10 minutes or so before physically
shutting down the machine.


MozBackUp hum hum
what is he doing except a simple copy of the profile ?
did you have enough room to do it ?

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

PhillipJones wrote:


What we want is increase in speed and efficiency and ability to
read/Play more audio/video types.


I can play pretty much every AV type that's out there. Maybe it's 
because I've installed Flash and VLC?


A browser isn't really an AV program; those things are best left to 
plugins and helper apps.


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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread sean nathan

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

sean nathan wrote:

nick...@gmail.com wrote:

I felt compelled to write this after the seeing the disaster that
Firefox is turning into with that new Australis interface.

SeaMonkey developers, you are doing an amazing job. I think the
interface is excellent, logical and *just works*, especially for
desktop.
Please don't feel any need to ruin it in the same way that Firefox has
been ruined with the dumbed-down Chrome wannabe interface!

If you feel the same, please show your support for SeaMonkey devs. :)



Really have to interject that i do NOT want Seamonkey to remain the
same if that means the browser becomes more and more unusable over
time... as things stand now, i only use Seamonkey's e'mail client with
regularity. The browser is just too slow for modern needs... throws up
too many irrelevant warnings and annoys me when it won't open sites or
play sound, or other silly nonsense...

i DO want it to remain the same as a combined e'mail  browser, but only
if the browser component quits moving like its full of frozen molasses...


If you don't like the nags, most of them can be turned off. I don't have
the problems you mention, so if you can be more specific, we can
probably solve them here.


my issues are mostly with speed... my cable internet is 50 mbps up and 
20 down... so this browser should fly... instead it sits and spins when 
loading pages... which my install of chromium opens quickly...


installed the 64 bit linux version of SM if that makes any difference... 
 no nags today, so no real worries...


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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread Ray_Net

WaltS48 wrote, On 07/05/2014 17:57:

On 05/07/2014 11:01 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote, On 07/05/2014 15:33:

On 5/6/2014 1:22 AM PT, E Wong typed:


So you have two bugs for the price of one.
1. The Load this bookmark in the sidebar option is not working.
2. Once set, you cannot reset the Load this bookmark in the sidebar
option.


Is there a bug filed for this?


I found these old ones a few days ago:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613974
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695425
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613971

And the *solution* is ?



More of the I'm a computer software guy, but don't want to do computer 
stuff anymore to get in involved and start fixing some of the bugs.


SeaMonkey is a part-time all volunteer effort.

Full-time jobs, families, life crisises like all humans, spare time on 
SeaMonkey. When do they sleep?
Therefore we can state that SeaMonkey is a a too big and too complicated 
application that cannot be maintained ..BUT the volunteers have plenty 
of time to play with and invent new gadgets rendering this application 
more and more difficult to apprehend.

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread Ed Mullen

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


What we want is increase in speed and efficiency and ability to
read/Play more audio/video types.


I can play pretty much every AV type that's out there. Maybe it's
because I've installed Flash and VLC?

A browser isn't really an AV program; those things are best left to
plugins and helper apps.


+1

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread Ed Mullen

sean nathan wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

sean nathan wrote:

nick...@gmail.com wrote:

I felt compelled to write this after the seeing the disaster that
Firefox is turning into with that new Australis interface.

SeaMonkey developers, you are doing an amazing job. I think the
interface is excellent, logical and *just works*, especially for
desktop.
Please don't feel any need to ruin it in the same way that Firefox has
been ruined with the dumbed-down Chrome wannabe interface!

If you feel the same, please show your support for SeaMonkey devs. :)



Really have to interject that i do NOT want Seamonkey to remain the
same if that means the browser becomes more and more unusable over
time... as things stand now, i only use Seamonkey's e'mail client with
regularity. The browser is just too slow for modern needs... throws up
too many irrelevant warnings and annoys me when it won't open sites or
play sound, or other silly nonsense...

i DO want it to remain the same as a combined e'mail  browser, but only
if the browser component quits moving like its full of frozen
molasses...


If you don't like the nags, most of them can be turned off. I don't have
the problems you mention, so if you can be more specific, we can
probably solve them here.


my issues are mostly with speed... my cable internet is 50 mbps up and
20 down... so this browser should fly... instead it sits and spins when
loading pages... which my install of chromium opens quickly...

installed the 64 bit linux version of SM if that makes any difference...
  no nags today, so no real worries...



Surely you've got that backwards:  Shouldn't it be 50 M down and 20 up?

And, please cite specific sites where your issue happens.  No matter 
what your ISP speeds, servers/specific sites throttle bandwidth.  You 
can do a speedtest.net test and see your ISP throughput but, in real 
world usage, you'll never see those speeds.


I have 30 Mbps down from Comcast and it tests that way.  Never see more 
than about 3 Mbps in real-world usage other than my FTP link on my own 
Web server.  That sometimes does 10 Mbps.


Frankly, whenever I read an article about Web speed in the U.S. and the 
world I wonder about this.  Everyone's all het up about giving everyone 
super high-speed links.  So what?  If Web servers will only deliver a 
throttled 3 Mbps?  What's the point?


I can afford the extra speed I'm paying for but am considering 
downgrading.  Why pay for speed no one will let me use?  My car will go 
130 MPH but there's no road in the U.S. that will let me drive that fast.




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Re: Seem To Have Lost Everything...???

2014-05-07 Thread Ed Mullen

cyberzen wrote:

Le 05/05/2014 16:19, SamuelS a écrit :

Hello all - just as I was trying to perform MozBackUp on my Lenovo T61
the system froze and I waited for 10 minutes or so before physically
shutting down the machine.


MozBackUp hum hum
what is he doing except a simple copy of the profile ?
did you have enough room to do it ?



Exactly.  And if you've got a regular backup of ALL critical data 
running (as you should!), why trouble yourself with another 
program-specific utility?  Silly.  And another layer of un-needed 
complexity.


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Videos Won't Play

2014-05-07 Thread Tom Pamin
We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't 
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type 
found.


If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then 
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at 
least try to play, but only with black screens.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-07 Thread WaltS48

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25
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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ed Mullen wrote:


Surely you've got that backwards:  Shouldn't it be 50 M down and 20
up?

And, please cite specific sites where your issue happens.  No matter
what your ISP speeds, servers/specific sites throttle bandwidth. You
can do a speedtest.net test and see your ISP throughput but, in real
world usage, you'll never see those speeds.


I routinely get the bandwidth promised by my ISP and measured by 
speedtest (49/39 just now vs. advertised 50/25). A client asked me to 
download a 144 MB file the other day, it took only a minute. It wasn't 
compressed, and Windows Explorer confirmed the size. Took her hours to 
upload. ;-\


You're right that a slow server won't take advantage (arirang.co.kr is a 
chronic offender, probably overloaded due to the ferry disaster), but 
what's to keep you from pulling content from several servers at once? 
Case in point (not that I'm advocating it): uTorrent and its kin.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

2014-05-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says No video with supported format and MIME type
found.

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? http://wqdatalive.com/public/55

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


WFM too, no problem with your mp4. Came up instantly, played to 
completion without a hitch.


Have you installed an appropriate video player on your system? Mine uses 
VLC media player, but you may have a different preference.


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Re: SM email not sending with large attachments

2014-05-07 Thread flyguy

Ray_Net wrote, On 5/5/2014 12:18 PM:

flyguy wrote, On 05/05/2014 17:00:

Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM:

On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote:

The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with
attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1
to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it
won't
send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message:

Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the
connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try
again or contact your network administrator.


See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different
local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might
work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large
attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see
if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey.


I just tried this, using Outlook Express 6. It has the same problems
Seamonkey does, giving this message for a 2 MB message:

Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible
causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long
period of inactivity. Subject 'test 8 - 2 MB attachment', Account:
'EricGoDaddy', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net', Protocol: SMTP,
Port: 80, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F

A 1 MB attachment sent with no issues. So, it's not Seamonkey, but
perhaps it's Win XP, because I can use the GoDaddy accounts on my
iPad, going through the same router (but with a wifi instead of
ethernet connection the Win XP desktop uses), and send 3 MB attachments.


Could be that your anti-virus is configured to check mails  (i reset
this option).
Checking things slow down the activity ... enough to trigger the long
period of inactivity decision to kill the connection.


Bingo! I am unable to send a 4 MB attachment with my Norton Internet 
Security Smart Firewall enabled, but it sends easily with NIS Smart 
Firewall disabled. This is true on both computers. The iPads don't use 
NIS, so it's not causing them any problems, and they can send large 
attachments.


Maybe it's Norton, maybe GoDaddy has their timeout settings set too 
close - who knows? I'll start with the GoDaddy forum to see if others 
have this issue, the try adjusting NIS, then Norton support if that 
doesn't work, and

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Re: SM email not sending with large attachments

2014-05-07 Thread Trane Francks

On 5/8/14 12:55 PM +0900, flyguy wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 5/5/2014 12:18 PM:

flyguy wrote, On 05/05/2014 17:00:

Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM:

On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote:

The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with
attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1
to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it
won't
send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message:

Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the
connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try
again or contact your network administrator.


See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different
local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might
work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large
attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see
if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey.


I just tried this, using Outlook Express 6. It has the same problems
Seamonkey does, giving this message for a 2 MB message:

Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible
causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long
period of inactivity. Subject 'test 8 - 2 MB attachment', Account:
'EricGoDaddy', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net', Protocol: SMTP,
Port: 80, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F

A 1 MB attachment sent with no issues. So, it's not Seamonkey, but
perhaps it's Win XP, because I can use the GoDaddy accounts on my
iPad, going through the same router (but with a wifi instead of
ethernet connection the Win XP desktop uses), and send 3 MB attachments.


Could be that your anti-virus is configured to check mails  (i reset
this option).
Checking things slow down the activity ... enough to trigger the long
period of inactivity decision to kill the connection.


Bingo! I am unable to send a 4 MB attachment with my Norton Internet
Security Smart Firewall enabled, but it sends easily with NIS Smart
Firewall disabled. This is true on both computers. The iPads don't use
NIS, so it's not causing them any problems, and they can send large
attachments.

Maybe it's Norton, maybe GoDaddy has their timeout settings set too
close - who knows? I'll start with the GoDaddy forum to see if others
have this issue, the try adjusting NIS, then Norton support if that
doesn't work, and

And I think you already found the source of the probelm: NIS. I'd be 
looking there first. I know on my system, KAV's so-called web protection 
module would often cause all HTTP traffic to come to a grinding halt, 
which would necessitate a reboot or log out/log in. Disabling that 
apparently half-baked feature solved my woes.


Antivirus software is notorious for getting in the way of a pleasant 
computing experience. I seldom find that SeaMonkey is to blame for such 
woes.


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Re: SM email not sending with large attachments

2014-05-07 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

flyguy wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 5/5/2014 12:18 PM:

flyguy wrote, On 05/05/2014 17:00:

Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM:

On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote:

The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails
with
attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1
to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it
won't
send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message:

Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the
connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try
again or contact your network administrator.


See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different
local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might
work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large
attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see
if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey.


I just tried this, using Outlook Express 6. It has the same problems
Seamonkey does, giving this message for a 2 MB message:

Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible
causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long
period of inactivity. Subject 'test 8 - 2 MB attachment', Account:
'EricGoDaddy', Server: 'smtpout.secureserver.net', Protocol: SMTP,
Port: 80, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error: 10053, Error Number:
0x800CCC0F

A 1 MB attachment sent with no issues. So, it's not Seamonkey, but
perhaps it's Win XP, because I can use the GoDaddy accounts on my
iPad, going through the same router (but with a wifi instead of
ethernet connection the Win XP desktop uses), and send 3 MB attachments.


Could be that your anti-virus is configured to check mails  (i reset
this option).
Checking things slow down the activity ... enough to trigger the long
period of inactivity decision to kill the connection.


Bingo! I am unable to send a 4 MB attachment with my Norton Internet
Security Smart Firewall enabled, but it sends easily with NIS Smart
Firewall disabled. This is true on both computers. The iPads don't use
NIS, so it's not causing them any problems, and they can send large
attachments.

Maybe it's Norton, maybe GoDaddy has their timeout settings set too
close - who knows? I'll start with the GoDaddy forum to see if others
have this issue, the try adjusting NIS, then Norton support if that
doesn't work, and


OK, here are a couple of places to look in NIS, which believe it or not 
is user-configurable. Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to 
accept all the default settings.


1) From the main panel, click Settings, choose the Network tab.

2) Choose the Message Protection section, and next to Email Antivirus 
Scan, click Configure.


3) Options to consider (both default to enabled):
[?] Scan outgoing email messages
[?] Protect against timeouts

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