Re: SeaMonkey Release Delay(s)

2014-08-01 Thread Ant

Cool and thanks. :)


On 7/30/2014 9:10 PM PT, Justin Wood (Callek) typed:


Just an update everyone,

The physical machines are in place and good I'm working on getting the
buildbot (automation) up to snuff with :ewong's help to make use of this.

~Justin Wood (Callek)

On 7/16/2014 9:07 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Hey Everyone,

Again I'm sorry for delays on beta's, and sorry for delays which caused
us to technically skip a gecko release last cycle.

But I wanted to give you all a followup, I'm getting much closer to
getting a beta out there now, and correcting dev versions from our
system, however it looks likely we won't have a release within a day or
two of Firefox this cycle.

I'm going to concentrate our effort on getting a new beta out the door
within a week of Firefox's final release, if for some reason I can't,
I'm planning on backing out my effort temporarily to ship another
sec/stability release based on teh last full seamonkey release.

That sec/stability work would delay our other work here by about a week,
but I don't want to leave everyone stranded with regards to security/etc
any longer than necessary.

If all goes well, I'm expecting to have a final release, based on the
current Firefox release out no later than 2-weeks after Firefox is
shipped.

And if everything does go well, we can have yet another new beta after
that.

~Justin Wood (Callek)





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Re: Seamonkey - Account Wizard - BUG - TO: Ray_Net

2014-08-01 Thread Ray_Net

Trane Francks wrote, On 01/08/2014 03:09:

On 8/1/14 6:07 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Trane Francks wrote, On 31/07/2014 22:07:

On 8/1/14 12:28 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ben wrote, On 31/07/2014 02:33:

Because there will be other people who will have/experience this
problem,
i have decided to give a very specific and custom tailed detailed
walk-through
on the problem, and how to correct it as best i can.

Although the info  steps may seem a bit baby like, these instruction
were not directed
specifically back at you.

So please dont be offended by the info - i realise you already know
most of these steps already.

I should have mentioned in my description that it is just as
applicable to pop3 email accounts as well.

Ben.

I am not offended, i appréciate your posts who can be usefull for
others.
I am just surprised about the presence of your serverX.valid 
keys.


It's an interesting one, Ray. I /think/ these particular keys are only
created when a user clicks on a link to subscribe, e.g.,
news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey, rather than
creating the server manually. I only had one of those keys and it was
for the Mozilla news server. As with Ben, I had to set the
serverX.valid key value to True to enable new mail accounts to be
properly created.


So the creation of this key with the value false is a SM bug ... already
filled ?

I had problems in the past after clicking on those type of link ...
problems were corrected with the help of this support group by removing
by hand what was related with the newly created subscription. From that
time, i never click on such link, never ...

Yes, the bug has been posted. It has been discussed in this newsgroup 
several times and is where I turned to provide Ben with the solution.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861


OK ...

Assigned To 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#assigned_to: 
Nobody; OK to take it and work on it mailto:nob...@mozilla.org


as usual :-)
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Re: Cannot delete Google Chrome

2014-08-01 Thread Ron Hunter

On 7/31/2014 10:24 PM, Mort wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

You might also want to try a free program:
Wise Program Uninstaller - I've had it work when others failed.
http://www.wisecleaner.com/wiseuninstallerfree.html


Thanks for the new suggestion, which I shall soon act upon. It does get
to be time-consuming and frustrating, when companies shove their
software onto ones hard drive in sneaky manner and make it difficult to
delete it.

Mort


Another possible solution to getting rid of an unwanted program that 
won't uninstall from Windows, is to download a full install of the 
program, install that, then see if it appears in the Windows program 
list, and uninstall it.  This has worked for me several times in the past.


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Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Gabriel

Hi,

I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Build identifier: 20140612182257)

I get a blank page with this content only:
===
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;htmlhead

meta name=fragment content=!
meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge 
link 
href='//fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=IM+Fell+English:400,400italic|Open+Sans:300,400' 
rel='stylesheet' type='text/css'link rel=shortcut icon 
href=/fonts/fonts-64.png type=image/x-icon /meta 
http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8titleGoogle 
Fonts/titlelink href=/fonts/directory.nocache.css rel=stylesheet 
type=text/css /script language='javascript' type=text/javascriptvar 
directoryFlags={0:true,1:true,2:true};var ds = { fn: 647 };/scriptscript 
type=text/javascript src=//www.google.com/jsapi?debug=true/scriptscript

 google.load('elements', '1', {
   packages: 'inputtools'
 });
   /scriptscript language='javascript' type=text/javascript 
src='/fonts/webfonts.nocache.js'/scriptscript type=text/javascriptvar 
basePath = '/fonts';

 var _gaq = _gaq || [];
 _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-24053025-1']);
 _gaq.push(['_setCookiePath', basePath + '/']);
 _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);

 (function() {
   var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; 
ga.async = true;
   ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 
'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
   var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; 
s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);

 })();
   /script/headbody itemscope 
itemtype=http://schema.org/CollectionPage;/body/html

===


I do see the correct page with Firefox 31 !

Gabriel
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Gecko (was: Re: Revisiting Untrusted Connection Issue)

2014-08-01 Thread Daniel

On 01/08/14 12:19, HenriK wrote:

Snip

Eventually, I posed my problem to the Kaspersky tech support people.
Again, I was using Kaspersky Internet Security (KIS) 2014.  I did not
experience the problem with KIS 2013.  It never occurred to me that KIS
could be doing something to Seamonkey until I read Mr. Francks comment.
KIS tech support advised that Seamonkey was not among the officially
supported browsers with KIS 2014 but that I should note Seamonkey.exe in
the KIS 'exclusions' list as a 'trusted application'.  No explanation
was provided as to exactly why this might be necessary given Seamonkey's
Firefox lineage.  Whatever, this solution worked and it apparently does
not interfere with KIS' security functions.

This has been an interesting education for me and my thanks to everyone
who provided comments about any aspect of the issue.


Henrik, perhaps if the next time you, or anyone else, is speaking with 
the Kaspersky tech support people, you mentioned that SeaMonkey Suite is 
the continuation of the Mozilla Suite, from which Firefox branched, and 
that both Firefox and SeaMonkey (and other browsers) are based on the 
Gecko engine (http://geckoisgecko.org/), maybe they can save themselves, 
and their users, some trouble by looking for Gecko rather than Firefox!!


Might not accomplish anything, but you never know!!

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Re: Junk doesn't always purge old messages

2014-08-01 Thread Daniel

On 28/07/14 07:32, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I've noticed a peculiarity in the way the Junk folder purges old
messages, which I have set to seven days.

If the message arrives there via the JMC feature, it's purged on
schedule, but if it arrives via a filter, it sits there indefinitely. I
have several incoming mail filters that redirect messages from unwelcome
senders to the Junk folder, marking them as read and as junk. The
filters work, but Junk doesn't purge them after a week.

Anyone else notice this?

Paul, I have my SeaMonkey set up to move Junk messages straight to 
Trash, which then gets emptied when I close SM, so I've never noticed 
your problem.


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Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140415200419

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: Seamonkey Account BUG Post Text formatting - TO: Daniel

2014-08-01 Thread Daniel

On 01/08/14 14:15, Ben wrote:



support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

( *This sample of quoted text retained to show Ben what I mean by long
lines and short lines* )

Double click on the line with the email account(s) and/or Newsgroup
acconut(s) that have the
text 'valid' after a fullstop AND have the word 'false' underneath the
'Value' column/header
to change the word to 'true'.

This real example in my case happens to be the number 9, but it
could be
any number at all (any account)


The irony is that the only email account which had the variable set to
'false'
was actually the 'news.mozilla.org' newsgroup account.
this problem could happen after making some account, wether it be
email,
or a 'News group' account.

Snip

Ben, why did you bother posting this, as, anyone who has this problem,
like you, can just post here and get the required solution, or, better
yet, JUST READ BACK THROUGH THE POSTS ALREADY MADE HERE TO FIND THEIR
SOLUTION.

O.K., maybe those, like you, who use the lists cannot read previous
posts,  another good reason to connect directly to the news group
rather than using the lists. IMHO, of course!!

Also, it seems to me that you use the Enter button to indicate an end
of line! Please*STOP*  as it causes a mixture of long and short
lines, as shown above. If you just type and type and type and only use
the Enter button at the end of a paragraph, we can all see the lines
of text wrapped at the line lengths*WE*  want.

If you want to see 130 characters per line, you can. If I want to see 40
characters per line, I can. If I want to see 72 characters, again, I can.

Thank you for your consideration.



1 - I posted made these instruction because Ray_Net did not seem to
understand some of the explanations given by trane. I thought it would
be best for anyone else who had this problem. i dont know anybody who
has provided details to this degree. you stated that people can just
read back through the posts, but i have made a detailed post that has no
equivelant before. I'm not really sure i see the difference between
using news group versus a straight email to support-seamonkey Digest.


Ben, do you read the posts here via the list, only, or do you read them 
via Google-Groups or via the news server direct and then just 
answer/post via the list??



As the for me using the Enter key, well i 'm not quote sure about
appropriate formatting, as seamonkey is not a word procesor (although i
historically use windows notepad for everything), because i'm using a 32
Inch Wide screen monitor/tv. But your right about the formatting it does
come out looking incorrect. Im just so used to using the enter key to
make a new line to try to get text to look appropriate, ill take up your
suggestion though, i'll try to eliminate enter key (reduce unnessesary
line-breaks in text)

Ben


No worries, Ben, as I was thinking, later, that as I think you are 
posting in HTML format, is doesn't limit the length of the line, so in a 
large paragraph, you could be three miles off to the left of screen when 
you press Enter!! Not real useful. But, if you compose in Notebook and 
then cut-and-paste into SM composer, who knows what's going on!! ;-)


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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Daniel

On 01/08/14 19:47, Gabriel wrote:

Hi,

I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Build identifier: 20140612182257)

I get a blank page with this content only:
===


Snip


I do see the correct page with Firefox 31 !

Gabriel


Clicking on the Google Fonts link in Gabriel's post, I also get a blank 
page using my Linux installation shown below! ;-(


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140415200419

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140408191805

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Re: Revisiting Untrusted Connection Issue

2014-08-01 Thread Trane Francks

On 8/1/14 11:19 AM, HenriK wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 7/10/14 5:27 AM +0900, HenriK wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 7/9/14 9:09 AM +0900, Trane Francks wrote:

On 7/9/14 7:28 AM +0900, HenriK wrote:

Shortly after upgrading to SM 2.26, I began to experience SM-generated
'Untrusted Connection' messages for the bulk of the websites I visit.
Installing SM 2.26.1 did NOT remedy this problem.

About six weeks ago, someone raised the 'Untrusted Connection' issue about a
particular site.  The comments made to that query do not seem to fit my
situation.

The problem is getting worse and SM now won't let me install a
'couponprinter.exe' add-on.  I assume - but don't actually know enough
about SM
and certificate issues to make a knowledgeable judgement - that somehow the
certificate data base file on my machine is gotten corrupted somehow.

Can anyone explain what has caused this problem?  Is there a bug in SM
2.26/2.26.1?

More important, can someone give me some step-by-step instructions on how
to fix
this problem?

Could the problem be fixed by simply copying the relevant certificate file
from
a working PC?  I have SM 2.24 running satisfactorily on another PC.  What
is the
name of the file I would need to copy and substitute on the PC running SM
2.26.1

In case it is relevant, I use Kaspersky Internet Security 2014 as my security
software but I don't think that is the problem as all of the 'Untrusted
Connection' messages seem to be SM-generated.

Thanks, in advance, for any and all assistance.


Henrik,

In Kaspersky, I had to UNcheck the HTTPS checkbox. It completely balked
access to any HTTPS sites. It is most assuredly a KIS bug, at least on
the Mac version.


And to be more specific, if I let KIS check HTTPS connections, Safari and
Firefox can access the sites fine, but SeaMonkey returns SSL peer rejected a .
handshake message for unacceptable content. I think that KIS is fiddling with
things and causing SM to have trouble.


What version of KIS do you refer to?  I have KIS 2014 and I can not find any
HTTPS check box.  I am also really surprised that the problem I am experiencing
could be caused by KIS as all of error messages received indicate they are
generated by SM 2.26.1.  Help!


I'm using KIS for Mac v1.4.0.1.46a.b.c.d. The setting of which I speak is found
at Preferences | Protection | Web Anti-Virus | Check secure connections (HTTPS).

Since KIS does monitor HTTP and HTTPS traffic, it's not a surprise that it can
get in the way of what the browser sees.


Eventually, I posed my problem to the Kaspersky tech support people.  Again, I
was using Kaspersky Internet Security (KIS) 2014.  I did not experience the
problem with KIS 2013.  It never occurred to me that KIS could be doing
something to Seamonkey until I read Mr. Francks comment.  KIS tech support
advised that Seamonkey was not among the officially supported browsers with KIS
2014 but that I should note Seamonkey.exe in the KIS 'exclusions' list as a
'trusted application'.  No explanation was provided as to exactly why this might
be necessary given Seamonkey's Firefox lineage.  Whatever, this solution worked
and it apparently does not interfere with KIS' security functions.

This has been an interesting education for me and my thanks to everyone who
provided comments about any aspect of the issue.

This does not seem to be a viable solution to me. If Kaspersky is set to 
no longer monitor activity by SeaMonkey, all your browsing happens in a 
veil of secrecy. Web browsers are 'network-promiscuous' by nature and, 
as such, cannot be trusted.


The advice I received from Kaspersky was to switch to a supported browser.
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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Trane Francks

On 8/1/14 8:39 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 01/08/14 19:47, Gabriel wrote:

Hi,

I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Build identifier: 20140612182257)

I get a blank page with this content only:
===


Snip


I do see the correct page with Firefox 31 !

Gabriel


Clicking on the Google Fonts link in Gabriel's post, I also get a blank
page using my Linux installation shown below! ;-(

Yes, SM 2.26.1 on my OS X 10.7.5 system shows the same white real 
estate. Safari 6.1.5 displays the page fine.


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Re: SOLVED: Making Seamonkey the default browser in Ubuntu

2014-08-01 Thread Philip Chee
On 31/07/2014 11:35, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 FINALLY got my question answered (I asked it about two years ago here 
 and never got a valid answer).  The partial solution is in this link:
 
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2234277
 
 What's missing is that after you've updated the 
 seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop file, you have to somehow force the mime 
 relationships to be rebuilt.  The OP of that thread said he rebooted 
 several times and it magically showed up, but that's not it.
 
 Somehow you have to force the mime-relationships to be rebuilt. I 
 discovered it by accident when I uninstalled LibreOffice 4.2.5 so I 
 could install LibreOffice 4.3.0.  Once the installation was complete, 
 Seamonkey magically showed up as a choice in the System Settings 
 Default Applications tool.
 
 I wonder if there is a command that could force the rebuild of those 
 relationships?  Also, maybe Daniel Folkenshteyn (sp?) could update his 
 Ubuntuzilla scripts to take care of this automatically?

There is a Thunderbird Bug 824909 - can't print .eml files - print
preview remains blank
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=824909

Which tries to fix a broken MIME type settings on GTK+

 +// Attempt to repair broken desktop MIME association on GNU systems...


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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Trane Francks wrote on 08/01/2014 07:48 PM:

On 8/1/14 8:39 PM, Daniel wrote:

On 01/08/14 19:47, Gabriel wrote:

Hi,

I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Build identifier: 20140612182257)

I get a blank page with this content only:
===


Snip


I do see the correct page with Firefox 31 !

Gabriel


Clicking on the Google Fonts link in Gabriel's post, I also get a blank
page using my Linux installation shown below! ;-(

Yes, SM 2.26.1 on my OS X 10.7.5 system shows the same white real 
estate. Safari 6.1.5 displays the page fine.


It's not just on 2.26 or OS X. I'm seeing the same white blank page on 
2.33.a1 and Linux-x86_64.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:33.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/33.0 SeaMonkey/2.30a1

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Re: Junk doesn't always purge old messages

2014-08-01 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:

On 28/07/14 07:32, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I've noticed a peculiarity in the way the Junk folder purges old
messages, which I have set to seven days.

If the message arrives there via the JMC feature, it's purged on
schedule, but if it arrives via a filter, it sits there indefinitely. I
have several incoming mail filters that redirect messages from unwelcome
senders to the Junk folder, marking them as read and as junk. The
filters work, but Junk doesn't purge them after a week.

Anyone else notice this?


Paul, I have my SeaMonkey set up to move Junk messages straight to
Trash, which then gets emptied when I close SM, so I've never noticed
your problem.


Thanks.

I have mine set this way to allow time for me to look for false 
positives. Even after years of training, it occasionally makes mistakes 
with new senders.


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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Philip Taylor

2.17.1 : also blank.  A peek behind the scenes reveals ---

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;htmlhead(head content 
omitted)/headbody itemscope 
itemtype=http://schema.org/CollectionPage;/body/html


Since body is empty, nothing can be rendered unless it is populated by 
scripting or content added by CSS.


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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Ray_Net

Gabriel wrote, On 01/08/2014 11:47:

Hi,

I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Build identifier: 20140612182257)

I get a blank page with this content only:
===
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;htmlhead

meta name=fragment content=!
meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=edge 
link 
href='//fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=IM+Fell+English:400,400italic|Open+Sans:300,400' 
rel='stylesheet' type='text/css'link rel=shortcut icon 
href=/fonts/fonts-64.png type=image/x-icon /meta 
http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; 
charset=UTF-8titleGoogle Fonts/titlelink 
href=/fonts/directory.nocache.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css 
/script language='javascript' type=text/javascriptvar 
directoryFlags={0:true,1:true,2:true};var ds = { fn: 647 
};/scriptscript type=text/javascript 
src=//www.google.com/jsapi?debug=true/scriptscript

 google.load('elements', '1', {
   packages: 'inputtools'
 });
   /scriptscript language='javascript' type=text/javascript 
src='/fonts/webfonts.nocache.js'/scriptscript 
type=text/javascriptvar basePath = '/fonts';

 var _gaq = _gaq || [];
 _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-24053025-1']);
 _gaq.push(['_setCookiePath', basePath + '/']);
 _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);

 (function() {
   var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 
'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
   ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 
'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
   var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; 
s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);

 })();
   /script/headbody itemscope 
itemtype=http://schema.org/CollectionPage;/body/html

===


I do see the correct page with Firefox 31 !

Gabriel
Same here - Blank page with my windows 7 : User agent: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Works ok with my windows 7 : FireFox 29.0.1  FireFox 30.0 and FireFox 
31.0  very strange, each time i want to look at my Firefox version, 
it updates automatically :-)

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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread WaltS48

On 08/01/2014 10:48 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:

2.17.1 : also blank.  A peek behind the scenes reveals ---

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;htmlhead(head content
omitted)/headbody itemscope
itemtype=http://schema.org/CollectionPage;/body/html

Since body is empty, nothing can be rendered unless it is populated by
scripting or content added by CSS.

Philip Taylor



I did not think to investigate the source when trying the link with my 
SeaMonkey 2.26.1 on Linux, but the page is also blank for me, and I do 
have Advertise Firefox compatibility set.


Works in Firefox 31.0, Beta 32.0b2, and Nightly 34.0a1.

However I don't see (head content omitted) in the source in my SeaMonkey.

Maybe a site for http://webcompat.com/

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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Ed Mullen

Gabriel pounded out :

Hi,

I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Build identifier: 20140612182257)

I get a blank page with this content only:


Same here.  Works in Firefox and the source is the same.

Tried SM in a clean profile, no go.

Tried SM in Safe Mode, no go.


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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Ed Mullen

Ed Mullen pounded out :

Gabriel pounded out :

Hi,

I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Build identifier: 20140612182257)

I get a blank page with this content only:


Same here.  Works in Firefox and the source is the same.

Tried SM in a clean profile, no go.

Tried SM in Safe Mode, no go.




The page content is supplied via javascript.  I turned off js in Firefox 
and it produces the same blank page as SM.  Now the question is:  Why 
can't SM's javascript render the page and FF's can?


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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Philip Taylor



Ed Mullen wrote:


The page content is supplied via javascript.  I turned off js in Firefox
and it produces the same blank page as SM.  Now the question is:  Why
can't SM's javascript render the page and FF's can?


Tools / web development / error console ?
Philip Taylor
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Re: SeaMonkey won't open .pdf files

2014-08-01 Thread hsmead
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:04:58 PM UTC-4, WaltS48 wrote:
 On 07/31/2014 04:28 PM, hsm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:55:46 PM UTC-4, hsmead wrote:
 
  SeaMonkey version 2.26.1 will not open .pdf files.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Howard Smead
 
 
 
  Thanks for all the replies. I was using Mavericks. Just loaded the Beta 
  Yosemite. Same result when trying to open a .pdf, such as this one: 
  https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_UnderstandingLawEnforcementIntelligenceProcesses_July2014.pdf
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Install the PDF Viewer extension in SeaMonkey.
 
 
 
 [PDF Viewer :: Add-ons for 
 
 SeaMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/pdfjs/)
 
 
 
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Thanks for the link to pfd js viewer, unfortunately, here's the message: Not 
available for SeaMonkey 2.26.1?
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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/1/2014 2:47 AM, Gabriel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
 Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
 Build identifier: 20140612182257)
 
  [snipped]
 
 I do see the correct page with Firefox 31 !
 
 Gabriel
 
Windows 7 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1

I can view the page while spoofing Firefox WITHOUT any mention of
SeaMonkey.  In this case Advertise Firefox compatibility is worthless.

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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Ed Mullen

Philip Taylor pounded out :



Ed Mullen wrote:


The page content is supplied via javascript.  I turned off js in Firefox
and it produces the same blank page as SM.  Now the question is:  Why
can't SM's javascript render the page and FF's can?


Tools / web development / error console ?
Philip Taylor


Well, in SM the error console contents are numerous and indicate many 
many failures in SM's javascript handling of that page which is, since 
it was snipped in this reply:


https://www.google.com/fonts

I hope some dev is seeing this thread and will bring attention to this.

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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Ed Mullen

David E. Ross pounded out :

On 8/1/2014 2:47 AM, Gabriel wrote:

Hi,

I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Build identifier: 20140612182257)


   [snipped]


I do see the correct page with Firefox 31 !

Gabriel


Windows 7 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1

I can view the page while spoofing Firefox WITHOUT any mention of
SeaMonkey.  In this case Advertise Firefox compatibility is worthless.



If that is the case then the fault lies with the Web page coding and 
faulty browser sniffing.


And, yes, confirmed, spoofing a User Agent of only Firefox the page 
displays fine in SeaMonkey.  So, it's the page's coding faults, not 
anything in SeaMonkey, IMHO.  Just horrible page design.  Just another 
travesty by Google's Web coders.  Happens all the time.


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Re: Google web fonts page is blank with SM 2.26.1

2014-08-01 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Ed Mullen wrote on 08/02/2014 09:13 AM:

David E. Ross pounded out :

On 8/1/2014 2:47 AM, Gabriel wrote:

Hi,

I cannot see the content of https://www.google.com/fonts with SM 2.26.1
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:29.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1
Build identifier: 20140612182257)


   [snipped]


I do see the correct page with Firefox 31 !

Gabriel


Windows 7 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.26.1


I can view the page while spoofing Firefox WITHOUT any mention of
SeaMonkey.  In this case Advertise Firefox compatibility is worthless.



If that is the case then the fault lies with the Web page coding and 
faulty browser sniffing.


And, yes, confirmed, spoofing a User Agent of only Firefox the page 
displays fine in SeaMonkey.  So, it's the page's coding faults, not 
anything in SeaMonkey, IMHO.  Just horrible page design.  Just another 
travesty by Google's Web coders.  Happens all the time.


Confirming site-specific spoofing of only Firefox UA displays page in 
SeaMonkey;-
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:33.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/33.0 
SeaMonkey/2.30a1 ID:20140716100202 CSet: f6c40188e2d4

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