Re: Flashblock 1.5 can be made to work in SeaMonkey 2.31!

2014-12-11 Thread Daniel

On 11/12/14 14:12, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/10/2014 7:01 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/9/2014 7:26 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Flashblock 1.5.18 is not Compatible with SeaMonkey 2.31 nor is the older
version for SeaMonkey. But it can be made compatible with a few simple
steps:

1. go to the Firefox Add-Ons page for Flashblock:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/

2. Copy the link to download Flashblock from the button Download Now
or use the link I have provided below:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/latest/433/addon-433-latest.xpi?src=dp-btn-primary

3. Go to the Addonconverter  page:

http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/convert.php

4. Paste the download link for Flashblock (see step 2 for the link url)
into the box below this phrase:

or paste direct link to xpi file or full URL of add-on page at
https://addons.mozilla.org/:;

5.  Click Convert at the bottom of the page and you will be prompted to
install Flashblock in SeaMonkey. You can safely ignore the warnings
about installing Flashblock. After SeaMonkey restarts you will once
again have Flashblock up and running in SeaMonkey.

I hope this helps. :)



Why bother?  FlashBlock 1.3.20 for SeaMonkey was released at the same
time as Flashblock 1.5.17 was released for Firefox.  They are both
available at http://flashblock.mozdev.org/.

On the other hand, FlashBlock 4.20.13 for Firefox is available at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-block/.  I
converted this for SeaMonkey compatibility at
http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/, but I have not yet tried
installing and using it.


If you were paying attention FlashBlock 1.3.20 does not work with
SeaMonkey 2.31. So if you want to use Flashblock you have to convert
Flashblock 1.5 so that it will work with Seamonkey.

Plus the latest version of Flashblock IS 1.5.18!



Flashblock 1.5.18 is for Firefox.  The latest version for SeaMonkey is
1.3.21, which should be good even for SeaMonkey versions starting with
3.nnn.


What SeaMonkey versions start with 3.nnn.?? Or do you mean SM 2.3nn, 
David??


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Re: Which SM to get? Win XP3.

2014-12-11 Thread Daniel

On 11/12/14 05:29, Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote on 12/10/2014 3:45 AM:

On 10/12/14 17:10, Paul wrote:

SM suggestions wanted.
This machine has Windows XP3.

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I cannot
upgrade to IEx.  SM1119 has not worked with google maps in years,
so it looks like time to upgrade to a newer SM.

I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.
What ever I get I will likely stick with for 10 years.
Except for gmaps, JS and Flash will be OFF.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
SM 2.30?  Reading this NG for years, it would appear that all other
versions have multiple problems.


Paul, I've been using SeaMonkey, through several upgrades, with Google
Maps for about a year. No problems noted until Google recently modified
how the maps display, but still usable.

HTH



Daniel, I don't seem to be having any trouble with Google maps on 2.31.
  What problems are there?

Ed, prior to about a month ago, there was a panel occupying the left 
hand 1/3 of screen. There I could select Get Direction and there would 
be places to enter the From and To location.


When I go to Google Maps now, the Map takes up the entire screen, 
virtually, with just a little area in the bottom right that you click on 
to enter the From and To locations and then, after you have zoomed 
in to actually be able to see the From and To location, the Map 
wants to zoom out to, basically, full scale, so you cannot see all the 
twists and turns.


An inconvenience!!

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Re: Which SM to get? Win XP3.

2014-12-11 Thread Daniel

On 11/12/14 07:35, hawker wrote:

On 12/10/2014 1:10 AM, Paul wrote:

SM suggestions wanted.
This machine has Windows XP3.

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I cannot
upgrade to IEx.  SM1119 has not worked with google maps in years,
so it looks like time to upgrade to a newer SM.

I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.
What ever I get I will likely stick with for 10 years.
Except for gmaps, JS and Flash will be OFF.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
SM 2.30?  Reading this NG for years, it would appear that all other
versions have multiple problems.


Most of us are sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 as of now.
As you get latter and later many more thing break and some features are
lost, but also many more things work better. The idea is to use the
newest version that doesn't break too much. Most of us think that is
2.26.1 but if your not going to use that then probably go with the
latest, which is 2.31.

Since your upgrading from way back you need to update to 2.0 then from
2.0 to 2.whatever I think. Read the fine print. You can't jump directly
from 1.x to 2.26.


Hawker, I'm sure my meant *Some* of us are sticking with SeaMonkey 
2.26.1 as of now.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 crashes

2014-12-11 Thread Daniel

On 11/12/14 01:51, bobhur...@hurterconsult.com wrote:

Seamonkey has been my main browser/email since the Netscape days and generally 
works very well.

I updated to Seamonkey 2.31 from 2.30 and then it crashed. Whenever I tried 
opening it, it crashed and a problem window came up.  I uninstalled 2.31 and 
then reinstalled it from a downloaded version off the Seamonkey web site.  I 
still could not open it - was getting the same crash message.

I then uninstalled 2.31 and installed 2.30 using a version downloaded from the 
Seamonkey web site.  The 2.30 is working normally.

Anyone else have this problem?

Bob, could it possibly be that you're running a 64bit version on a 32bit 
OS??


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Re: Which SM to get? Win XP3.

2014-12-11 Thread Daniel

On 11/12/14 14:50, Paul wrote:

Paul wrote:

SM suggestions wanted.
This machine has Windows XP3.

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I cannot
upgrade to IEx.  SM1119 has not worked with google maps in years,
so it looks like time to upgrade to a newer SM.

I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.
What ever I get I will likely stick with for 10 years.
Except for gmaps, JS and Flash will be OFF.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
SM 2.30?  Reading this NG for years, it would appear that all other
versions have multiple problems.


Thanks everyone.
I'll try 2261.
Would like to keep 1119, but not absolutely necessary.
Will try to export the bookmarks.
Not sure what to do about existing emails.
Suppose I could send them all to myself.
Not interested in installing the last 20 or so SM's.
Need to clone C: first though.


Paul, it is always good to have a back-up of your profile  just in 
case 


Then update from SM 1.1.19 to Version 2.0 then version 2.1 and then to 
version 2.31 or whatever the latest version is.


The reason for the multi-stage update is that the format of the profile 
(or, rather, the files with-in the profile) changed along the way, so if 
you don't do these intermediate upgrades and, instead, go straight for 
version 2.latest, you'll be back here in a couple of days telling us 
you've updated to version 2.latest and you've lost all your e-mails!! ;-(


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Re: Which SM to get? Win XP3.

2014-12-11 Thread GerardJan

Daniel wrote:

On 11/12/14 05:29, Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote on 12/10/2014 3:45 AM:

On 10/12/14 17:10, Paul wrote:

SM suggestions wanted.
This machine has Windows XP3.

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I cannot
upgrade to IEx.  SM1119 has not worked with google maps in years,
so it looks like time to upgrade to a newer SM.

I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.
What ever I get I will likely stick with for 10 years.
Except for gmaps, JS and Flash will be OFF.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
SM 2.30?  Reading this NG for years, it would appear that all other
versions have multiple problems.


Paul, I've been using SeaMonkey, through several upgrades, with Google
Maps for about a year. No problems noted until Google recently modified
how the maps display, but still usable.

HTH



Daniel, I don't seem to be having any trouble with Google maps on 2.31.
  What problems are there?

Ed, prior to about a month ago, there was a panel occupying the left hand 1/3 
of screen. There I could select Get Direction and there would be places to 
enter the From and To location.


When I go to Google Maps now, the Map takes up the entire screen, virtually, 
with just a little area in the bottom right that you click on to enter the 
From and To locations and then, after you have zoomed in to actually be 
able to see the From and To location, the Map wants to zoom out to, 
basically, full scale, so you cannot see all the twists and turns.


An inconvenience!!



Google Maps works as advertized on my Fedora 64bit Linux system

sincerely

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Re: Which SM to get? Win XP3.

2014-12-11 Thread Daniel

On 11/12/14 20:25, GerardJan wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 11/12/14 05:29, Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote on 12/10/2014 3:45 AM:

On 10/12/14 17:10, Paul wrote:

SM suggestions wanted.
This machine has Windows XP3.

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I cannot
upgrade to IEx.  SM1119 has not worked with google maps in years,
so it looks like time to upgrade to a newer SM.

I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.
What ever I get I will likely stick with for 10 years.
Except for gmaps, JS and Flash will be OFF.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
SM 2.30?  Reading this NG for years, it would appear that all other
versions have multiple problems.


Paul, I've been using SeaMonkey, through several upgrades, with Google
Maps for about a year. No problems noted until Google recently modified
how the maps display, but still usable.

HTH



Daniel, I don't seem to be having any trouble with Google maps on 2.31.
  What problems are there?


Ed, prior to about a month ago, there was a panel occupying the left
hand 1/3 of screen. There I could select Get Direction and there
would be places to enter the From and To location.

When I go to Google Maps now, the Map takes up the entire screen,
virtually, with just a little area in the bottom right that you click
on to enter the From and To locations and then, after you have
zoomed in to actually be able to see the From and To location, the
Map wants to zoom out to, basically, full scale, so you cannot see all
the twists and turns.

An inconvenience!!



Google Maps works as advertized on my Fedora 64bit Linux system

sincerely


I figured it might just be me, as I didn't hear anyone else complaining! :-(

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Re: Which SM to get? Win XP3.

2014-12-11 Thread Daniel

On 11/12/14 20:04, Daniel wrote:

On 11/12/14 07:35, hawker wrote:

On 12/10/2014 1:10 AM, Paul wrote:

SM suggestions wanted.
This machine has Windows XP3.

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I cannot
upgrade to IEx.  SM1119 has not worked with google maps in years,
so it looks like time to upgrade to a newer SM.

I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.
What ever I get I will likely stick with for 10 years.
Except for gmaps, JS and Flash will be OFF.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
SM 2.30?  Reading this NG for years, it would appear that all other
versions have multiple problems.


Most of us are sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 as of now.
As you get latter and later many more thing break and some features are
lost, but also many more things work better. The idea is to use the
newest version that doesn't break too much. Most of us think that is
2.26.1 but if your not going to use that then probably go with the
latest, which is 2.31.

Since your upgrading from way back you need to update to 2.0 then from
2.0 to 2.whatever I think. Read the fine print. You can't jump directly
from 1.x to 2.26.


Hawker, I'm sure my meant *Some* of us are sticking with SeaMonkey
2.26.1 as of now.


s/my meant/you meant

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Re: Which SM to get? Win XP3.

2014-12-11 Thread NoOp
On 12/11/2014 12:39 AM, Daniel wrote:
 On 11/12/14 05:29, Ed Mullen wrote:
 Daniel wrote on 12/10/2014 3:45 AM:
 On 10/12/14 17:10, Paul wrote:
 SM suggestions wanted.
 This machine has Windows XP3.

 Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I cannot
 upgrade to IEx.  SM1119 has not worked with google maps in years,
 so it looks like time to upgrade to a newer SM.

 I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.
 What ever I get I will likely stick with for 10 years.
 Except for gmaps, JS and Flash will be OFF.

 Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
 SM 2.30?  Reading this NG for years, it would appear that all other
 versions have multiple problems.

 Paul, I've been using SeaMonkey, through several upgrades, with Google
 Maps for about a year. No problems noted until Google recently modified
 how the maps display, but still usable.

 HTH


 Daniel, I don't seem to be having any trouble with Google maps on 2.31.
   What problems are there?

 Ed, prior to about a month ago, there was a panel occupying the left 
 hand 1/3 of screen. There I could select Get Direction and there would 
 be places to enter the From and To location.
 
 When I go to Google Maps now, the Map takes up the entire screen, 
 virtually, with just a little area in the bottom right that you click on 
 to enter the From and To locations and then, after you have zoomed 
 in to actually be able to see the From and To location, the Map 
 wants to zoom out to, basically, full scale, so you cannot see all the 
 twists and turns.
 
 An inconvenience!!
 

Clear your cache and clear your cookies.
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Re: Which SM to get? Win XP3.

2014-12-11 Thread Ed Mullen

Daniel wrote on 12/11/2014 3:39 AM:

On 11/12/14 05:29, Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote on 12/10/2014 3:45 AM:

On 10/12/14 17:10, Paul wrote:

SM suggestions wanted.
This machine has Windows XP3.

Google recently made Maps incompatible with IE8 and I cannot
upgrade to IEx.  SM1119 has not worked with google maps in years,
so it looks like time to upgrade to a newer SM.

I don't care about viruses, security, or the latest-greatest thing.
What ever I get I will likely stick with for 10 years.
Except for gmaps, JS and Flash will be OFF.

Any good functional or compatibility reason to get or not to get
SM 2.30?  Reading this NG for years, it would appear that all other
versions have multiple problems.


Paul, I've been using SeaMonkey, through several upgrades, with Google
Maps for about a year. No problems noted until Google recently modified
how the maps display, but still usable.

HTH



Daniel, I don't seem to be having any trouble with Google maps on 2.31.
  What problems are there?


Ed, prior to about a month ago, there was a panel occupying the left
hand 1/3 of screen. There I could select Get Direction and there would
be places to enter the From and To location.

When I go to Google Maps now, the Map takes up the entire screen,
virtually, with just a little area in the bottom right that you click on
to enter the From and To locations and then, after you have zoomed
in to actually be able to see the From and To location, the Map
wants to zoom out to, basically, full scale, so you cannot see all the
twists and turns.

An inconvenience!!



Like this?

http://edmullen.net/temp/gmaps.jpg


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Re: Flashblock 1.5 can be made to work in SeaMonkey 2.31!

2014-12-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/11/2014 12:30 AM, Daniel wrote:
 On 11/12/14 14:12, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/10/2014 7:01 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/9/2014 7:26 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
 Flashblock 1.5.18 is not Compatible with SeaMonkey 2.31 nor is the older
 version for SeaMonkey. But it can be made compatible with a few simple
 steps:

 1. go to the Firefox Add-Ons page for Flashblock:

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/

 2. Copy the link to download Flashblock from the button Download Now
 or use the link I have provided below:

 https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/latest/433/addon-433-latest.xpi?src=dp-btn-primary

 3. Go to the Addonconverter  page:

 http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/convert.php

 4. Paste the download link for Flashblock (see step 2 for the link url)
 into the box below this phrase:

 or paste direct link to xpi file or full URL of add-on page at
 https://addons.mozilla.org/:;

 5.  Click Convert at the bottom of the page and you will be prompted to
 install Flashblock in SeaMonkey. You can safely ignore the warnings
 about installing Flashblock. After SeaMonkey restarts you will once
 again have Flashblock up and running in SeaMonkey.

 I hope this helps. :)


 Why bother?  FlashBlock 1.3.20 for SeaMonkey was released at the same
 time as Flashblock 1.5.17 was released for Firefox.  They are both
 available at http://flashblock.mozdev.org/.

 On the other hand, FlashBlock 4.20.13 for Firefox is available at
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-block/.  I
 converted this for SeaMonkey compatibility at
 http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/, but I have not yet tried
 installing and using it.

 If you were paying attention FlashBlock 1.3.20 does not work with
 SeaMonkey 2.31. So if you want to use Flashblock you have to convert
 Flashblock 1.5 so that it will work with Seamonkey.

 Plus the latest version of Flashblock IS 1.5.18!


 Flashblock 1.5.18 is for Firefox.  The latest version for SeaMonkey is
 1.3.21, which should be good even for SeaMonkey versions starting with
 3.nnn.
 
 What SeaMonkey versions start with 3.nnn.?? Or do you mean SM 2.3nn, 
 David??
 

No, I really meant 3.nnn.  The install.rdf file for Flashblock 1.3.21
anticipates a future SeaMonkey version number beginning with 3.  Note
the em:maxVersion in the following fragment from that install.rdf file:
   !-- Seamonkey TNG --
em:targetApplication
Description
em:id{92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}/em:id
em:minVersion2.1/em:minVersion
em:maxVersion3.*/em:maxVersion
/Description
/em:targetApplication

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Cannot load ABC News link

2014-12-11 Thread NoOp
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31

For some reason I can't load the following ABC News link on SeaMonkey 2.31:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/military-families-besieged-door-door-alarm-salespeople/story?id=27523930

When  I try to load it all I get is a Waiting for abcnews.go.com and
then Stopped over and over again in the status bar.

Link works fine in the usual: Firefox, Chromium, and Opera.
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[Solved] Re: Cannot load ABC News link

2014-12-11 Thread NoOp
On 12/11/2014 08:52 AM, NoOp wrote:
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31
 
 For some reason I can't load the following ABC News link on SeaMonkey 2.31:
 
 https://abcnews.go.com/US/military-families-besieged-door-door-alarm-salespeople/story?id=27523930
 
 When  I try to load it all I get is a Waiting for abcnews.go.com and
 then Stopped over and over again in the status bar.
 
 Link works fine in the usual: Firefox, Chromium, and Opera.
 

Sorry for the noise...

Error console shows:

Timestamp: 12/11/2014 08:52:10 AM
Error: fonts.abcnews.com:443 uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is only valid for the following names:
  *.akamaihd.net, *.akamaihd-staging.net, a248.e.akamai.net,
*.akamaized.net, *.akamaized-staging.net

(Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)


Turned off SSLEverywhere for that site and now the site works fine as:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/military-families-besieged-door-door-alarm-salespeople/story?id=27523930
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Re: Cannot load ABC News link

2014-12-11 Thread GerardJan

NoOp wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31

For some reason I can't load the following ABC News link on SeaMonkey 2.31:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/military-families-besieged-door-door-alarm-salespeople/story?id=27523930

When  I try to load it all I get is a Waiting for abcnews.go.com and
then Stopped over and over again in the status bar.

Link works fine in the usual: Firefox, Chromium, and Opera.

Page was blocked by SM

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Re: Flashblock 1.5 can be made to work in SeaMonkey 2.31!

2014-12-11 Thread EE

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/10/2014 7:01 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/9/2014 7:26 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Flashblock 1.5.18 is not Compatible with SeaMonkey 2.31 nor is the older
version for SeaMonkey. But it can be made compatible with a few simple
steps:

1. go to the Firefox Add-Ons page for Flashblock:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/

2. Copy the link to download Flashblock from the button Download Now
or use the link I have provided below:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/latest/433/addon-433-latest.xpi?src=dp-btn-primary

3. Go to the Addonconverter  page:

http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/convert.php

4. Paste the download link for Flashblock (see step 2 for the link url)
into the box below this phrase:

or paste direct link to xpi file or full URL of add-on page at
https://addons.mozilla.org/:;

5.  Click Convert at the bottom of the page and you will be prompted to
install Flashblock in SeaMonkey. You can safely ignore the warnings
about installing Flashblock. After SeaMonkey restarts you will once
again have Flashblock up and running in SeaMonkey.

I hope this helps. :)



Why bother?  FlashBlock 1.3.20 for SeaMonkey was released at the same
time as Flashblock 1.5.17 was released for Firefox.  They are both
available at http://flashblock.mozdev.org/.

On the other hand, FlashBlock 4.20.13 for Firefox is available at
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-block/.  I
converted this for SeaMonkey compatibility at
http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/, but I have not yet tried
installing and using it.


If you were paying attention FlashBlock 1.3.20 does not work with
SeaMonkey 2.31. So if you want to use Flashblock you have to convert
Flashblock 1.5 so that it will work with Seamonkey.

Plus the latest version of Flashblock IS 1.5.18!



Flashblock 1.5.18 is for Firefox.  The latest version for SeaMonkey is
1.3.21, which should be good even for SeaMonkey versions starting with
3.nnn.


Version 1.5.18 works with SeaMonkey after being converted.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 crashes

2014-12-11 Thread Marek Janouš

bobhur...@hurterconsult.com wrote:

Seamonkey has been my main browser/email since the Netscape days and generally 
works very well.

I updated to Seamonkey 2.31 from 2.30 and then it crashed. Whenever I tried 
opening it, it crashed and a problem window came up.  I uninstalled 2.31 and 
then reinstalled it from a downloaded version off the Seamonkey web site.  I 
still could not open it - was getting the same crash message.

I then uninstalled 2.31 and installed 2.30 using a version downloaded from the 
Seamonkey web site.  The 2.30 is working normally.

Anyone else have this problem?



Having the same problem. I am on 64-bit Win 8.1.
2.30 worked normally. Just as it updated itself automatically to 2.31, 
the thing wouldn’t run, would crash right after asking for master password.

I have gone back to 2.30 for the time being.
Is there anything reproducible besides being on 64-bit Win 8.1?
How come 2.31 works for some of you? ;-)

MJ
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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 crashes

2014-12-11 Thread Marek Janouš

Ed Mullen wrote:

bobhur...@hurterconsult.com wrote on 12/10/2014 9:51 AM:

Seamonkey has been my main browser/email since the Netscape days and
generally works very well.

I updated to Seamonkey 2.31 from 2.30 and then it crashed. Whenever I
tried opening it, it crashed and a problem window came up.  I
uninstalled 2.31 and then reinstalled it from a downloaded version off
the Seamonkey web site.  I still could not open it - was getting the
same crash message.

I then uninstalled 2.31 and installed 2.30 using a version downloaded
from the Seamonkey web site.  The 2.30 is working normally.

Anyone else have this problem?



Did you try 2.31 in Safe Mode?  That would tell you if an add-on
incompatibility is at fault.



Is there a way to run it in safe mode if it crashes right away?

MJ
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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 crashes

2014-12-11 Thread Ed Mullen

Marek Janouš wrote on 12/11/2014 2:15 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

bobhur...@hurterconsult.com wrote on 12/10/2014 9:51 AM:

Seamonkey has been my main browser/email since the Netscape days and
generally works very well.

I updated to Seamonkey 2.31 from 2.30 and then it crashed. Whenever I
tried opening it, it crashed and a problem window came up.  I
uninstalled 2.31 and then reinstalled it from a downloaded version off
the Seamonkey web site.  I still could not open it - was getting the
same crash message.

I then uninstalled 2.31 and installed 2.30 using a version downloaded
from the Seamonkey web site.  The 2.30 is working normally.

Anyone else have this problem?



Did you try 2.31 in Safe Mode?  That would tell you if an add-on
incompatibility is at fault.



Is there a way to run it in safe mode if it crashes right away?

MJ


64-bit system

C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode

32-bit

G:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode



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Western vs Unicode - why doesn't SM pick the right one?

2014-12-11 Thread flyguy
Most of my email displays properly with Western character encoding, but 
about 10-20% requires selecting Unicode from the ViewCharacter Encoding 
list. I've tried to make SM select it automatically, but it still 
doesn't. Is there anyway to make it pick the proper character encoding?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 crashes

2014-12-11 Thread NFN Smith

Ed Mullen wrote:

Is there a way to run it in safe mode if it crashes right away?

MJ

64-bit system

C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode

32-bit

G:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode



Interesting...

I have a PortableApps version of Seamonkey that's suddenly crashing, 
following update to 2.31.  I don't use the portable version frequently 
(something that I keep on utilities flash drive that I sometimes use for 
troubleshooting), but after update, crashing every time, on startup.


I'm one of the people that tends to be frequent in encouraging use of 
safe mode, as one of the early steps in troubleshooting, but for some 
reason, it never occurred to me to try safe mode against the portable 
version.


I wonder if my problem is the same one as has been reported by others, 
in this thread... I do know that this particular profile has some number 
of extensions, although not as many as I run in my regular Seamonkey 
profile.


Smith
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Re: Which SM to get? Win XP3.

2014-12-11 Thread Stéphane Grégoire
X-No-Archive :yes
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Paul a écrit le 11/12/2014 04:50 :
 Thanks everyone.
 I'll try 2261.
 Would like to keep 1119, but not absolutely necessary.


To update from a very old Seamonkey ; you should for security install
version 2.0 and then  2.1 and finally the version who want.


Profiles for 1.1 and 2.* are different.

You can update seamonkey but downgrade may be buggy! So backup the old
profiles.




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Re: Cannot load ABC News link

2014-12-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

NoOp wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31

For some reason I can't load the following ABC News link on SeaMonkey 2.31:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/military-families-besieged-door-door-alarm-salespeople/story?id=27523930

When  I try to load it all I get is a Waiting for abcnews.go.com and
then Stopped over and over again in the status bar.

Link works fine in the usual: Firefox, Chromium, and Opera.


WFM, I can honestly say it loaded instantly.

SM 2.31, Win7Pro SP1.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 crashes

2014-12-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ed Mullen wrote:

Marek Janouš wrote on 12/11/2014 2:15 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

bobhur...@hurterconsult.com wrote on 12/10/2014 9:51 AM:

Seamonkey has been my main browser/email since the Netscape days and
generally works very well.

I updated to Seamonkey 2.31 from 2.30 and then it crashed. Whenever I
tried opening it, it crashed and a problem window came up.  I
uninstalled 2.31 and then reinstalled it from a downloaded version off
the Seamonkey web site.  I still could not open it - was getting the
same crash message.

I then uninstalled 2.31 and installed 2.30 using a version downloaded
from the Seamonkey web site.  The 2.30 is working normally.

Anyone else have this problem?



Did you try 2.31 in Safe Mode?  That would tell you if an add-on
incompatibility is at fault.



Is there a way to run it in safe mode if it crashes right away?

MJ


64-bit system

C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode

32-bit

G:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode


Or directly from the Start Menu:
Start | All Programs | SeaMonkey | SeaMonkey (Safe Mode)


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Re: Western vs Unicode - why doesn't SM pick the right one?

2014-12-11 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

flyguy wrote:

Most of my email displays properly with Western character encoding, but
about 10-20% requires selecting Unicode from the ViewCharacter Encoding
list. I've tried to make SM select it automatically, but it still
doesn't. Is there anyway to make it pick the proper character encoding?


It should pick up the encoding from the Content-Type header of the email.

Having said that, at one time I used to find the message pane in the 
main window didn't switch encodings when moving between emails, but 
pressing F8 a couple of times to hide and then show it again sorted it 
out. Haven't noticed that problem for a long time now. Even then, fully 
opening emails in a separate window did use the correct encoding.


Alternatively, it could be that the problematic emails have the wrong 
encoding, or perhaps no encoding, specified in the header. e.g. the 
sending application has specified iso-8859-1 in the header but actually 
encoded the content in utf-8. If that's the case, at least you've got an 
option to manually override the encoding so that it can be displayed 
correctly ;o)


Mark.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 crashes

2014-12-11 Thread Marek Janouš

Ed Mullen wrote:

bobhur...@hurterconsult.com wrote on 12/10/2014 9:51 AM:

Seamonkey has been my main browser/email since the Netscape days and
generally works very well.

I updated to Seamonkey 2.31 from 2.30 and then it crashed. Whenever I
tried opening it, it crashed and a problem window came up.  I
uninstalled 2.31 and then reinstalled it from a downloaded version off
the Seamonkey web site.  I still could not open it - was getting the
same crash message.

I then uninstalled 2.31 and installed 2.30 using a version downloaded
from the Seamonkey web site.  The 2.30 is working normally.

Anyone else have this problem?



Did you try 2.31 in Safe Mode?  That would tell you if an add-on
incompatibility is at fault.



Thanks. This was a good call. However, the problem was not in add-ons.
I don’t know which of these two steps resolved it:
Either resetting the toolbars and windows—which I recommend to try 
first—or resetting all user settings to defaults, which is a pain…

Especially since it loses all mail account settings!
(And also all possible security tweaks one might not remember if it’s 
been some time…)
I suggest reverting to 2.30 first and noting down all you might need, 
especially for your email accounts.
Resetting will not delete any mail files from your disk, but setting 
everything up again can be a real pain.


I really don’t know what was the cause of the crash, but I noticed that 
once I got the 2.31 running, the ‘most visited’ folder (and the shortcut 
to bookmarks) reappeared in my bookmarks bar. I guess I have had deleted 
 the ‘most visited’ one, and removed the bookmarks shortcut; and 
overall, I had my toolbars somewhat customised…


MJ

PS: Anyways, I guess no more automatic updates for me. This took me a 
few hours to fix, at quite a wrong time.


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Re: Western vs Unicode - why doesn't SM pick the right one?

2014-12-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

flyguy wrote:


Most of my email displays properly with Western character encoding, but
about 10-20% requires selecting Unicode from the ViewCharacter Encoding
list. I've tried to make SM select it automatically, but it still
doesn't. Is there anyway to make it pick the proper character encoding?


Two ways:

1) Tell the webmaster to specify the correct encoding in his code. ;-)

2) Look at Edit | Preferences | Browser and see what you've specified at 
the bottom for legacy content that doesn't declare its language. I don't 
see how you can specify Unicode there, but for example if your fallback 
language is Chinese and most of the pages you visit are written in 
Russian, you'll get a lot of bad guesses.


For similar issues with mail and newsgroups, look under Edit | 
Preferences | Mail  Newsgroups | Character Encoding.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 crashes

2014-12-11 Thread NFN Smith

Follow-up item...

NFN Smith wrote:


I have a PortableApps version of Seamonkey that's suddenly crashing,
following update to 2.31.


I started the PortableApps version in safe mode, and no crash.  From 
there, I disabled all my extensions, and then re-enabled, one at a time 
(with restarts).


At the moment, all the extensions are active again, and no startup problems.

Smith

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 crashes

2014-12-11 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2014-12-11 2:15 PM, Marek Janouš wrote:

Is there a way to run it in safe mode if it crashes right away?


Hold down the Shift key, while you start SeaMonkey.

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Re: Cannot load ABC News link

2014-12-11 Thread NoOp
On 12/11/2014 01:36 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31

 For some reason I can't load the following ABC News link on SeaMonkey 2.31:

 https://abcnews.go.com/US/military-families-besieged-door-door-alarm-salespeople/story?id=27523930

 When  I try to load it all I get is a Waiting for abcnews.go.com and
 then Stopped over and over again in the status bar.

 Link works fine in the usual: Firefox, Chromium, and Opera.
 
 WFM, I can honestly say it loaded instantly.
 
 SM 2.31, Win7Pro SP1.
 
 Thanks Paul, appreciate the effort, but you should have read the
[Solved] Re: Cannot load ABC News link before trying. :-)

Gary

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Re: Western vs Unicode - why doesn't SM pick the right one?

2014-12-11 Thread flyguy

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote, On 12/11/2014 1:42 PM:

flyguy wrote:

Most of my email displays properly with Western character encoding, but
about 10-20% requires selecting Unicode from the ViewCharacter Encoding
list. I've tried to make SM select it automatically, but it still
doesn't. Is there anyway to make it pick the proper character encoding?


It should pick up the encoding from the Content-Type header of the email.

Having said that, at one time I used to find the message pane in the
main window didn't switch encodings when moving between emails, but
pressing F8 a couple of times to hide and then show it again sorted it
out. Haven't noticed that problem for a long time now. Even then, fully
opening emails in a separate window did use the correct encoding.

Alternatively, it could be that the problematic emails have the wrong
encoding, or perhaps no encoding, specified in the header. e.g. the
sending application has specified iso-8859-1 in the header but actually
encoded the content in utf-8. If that's the case, at least you've got an
option to manually override the encoding so that it can be displayed
correctly ;o)


I forgot to mention I'm using SM 2.26 on a Win 8.1 computer.

The email has these lines in it:

Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
boundary=_--=_MCPart_1762143897


Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed

... and two or three with Content-Type in parenthesis.

Pressing f8 has no effect; neither does opening the email in it's own 
window.




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