Re: Earthlink Homepage loading incorrectly

2014-12-29 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote on 29/12/2014 07:11:

On 12/28/2014 9:05 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Larry H wrote:

As was suggested this should be the link to see what the misloading page
looks like!
http://i.imgur.com/deCKqoy.png
thanks for the help


I know what it is. Loading wrong stylesheet. Got to menu
View  Use Style switch from Default Style to no title and it will
fix it.

Their makeup is pure crap...

link rel=stylesheet
href=http://m.eimg.net/pub/html/master2.min.css?hash=1008250904;
type=text/css media=screen,print title=no title charset=utf-8/

link rel=stylesheet href=/css/slick.css?hash=666927 /




Why did I get suckered into looking at this one?  I usually check the
HTML and CSS before doing anything elese.

There are 533 XHTML errors and 40 CSS errors.  Garbage in = garbage out.


I guess that Garbage in = Out is OK on IE
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Re: Pdf

2014-12-29 Thread F Murtz

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/28/2014 6:30 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/28/2014 3:46 AM, F Murtz wrote:

Why does seamonkey load pdfs and end up with a blank page?
it has that green bar moving and finally filling up and the resulting
page is blank, but IE just loads the same page and displays it



Give us an example of a URI that has this problem.



I found the Foxit plugin that I used for years (I haven't even install
Adobe on this machine) suddenly stop working where I got a blank screen.
Which plugin are you using? I fixed my problem be switch to Nitro.
https://www.gonitro.com/pdf-reader


Installed nitro and any url with pdf on the end still loads with a bar
that slowly fills with green and has a flashing arrow above and when it
fills the screen goes blank.



Windows 7 Ultimate
SeaMonkey 2.26.1
Adobe Reader 11.0.10

I find that some URIs for PDF files open in SeaMonkey using the Adobe
Reader plugins.  Other PDF files cause Adobe Reader to launch, and the
files open in that separate application.  The difference is caused by
the Content-Type header field sent by the server hosting the PDF file.

Try the IRS forms at
http://apps.irs.gov/app/picklist/list/formsPublications.html.  For me,
they open in a SeaMonkey window.


No exactly the same thing occurs,download with green bar then blank screen.
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Re: Earthlink Homepage loading incorrectly

2014-12-29 Thread Ray_Net

Ray_Net wrote on 29/12/2014 08:58:

David E. Ross wrote on 29/12/2014 07:11:

On 12/28/2014 9:05 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Larry H wrote:
As was suggested this should be the link to see what the misloading 
page

looks like!
http://i.imgur.com/deCKqoy.png
thanks for the help


I know what it is. Loading wrong stylesheet. Got to menu
View  Use Style switch from Default Style to no title and it 
will

fix it.

Their makeup is pure crap...

link rel=stylesheet
href=http://m.eimg.net/pub/html/master2.min.css?hash=1008250904;
type=text/css media=screen,print title=no title charset=utf-8/

link rel=stylesheet href=/css/slick.css?hash=666927 /




Why did I get suckered into looking at this one?  I usually check the
HTML and CSS before doing anything elese.

There are 533 XHTML errors and 40 CSS errors.  Garbage in = garbage out.


I guess that Garbage in = Out is OK on IE

I tested with my SM 2.29.1 and the http://my.earthlink.net
redirect me in an empty page:
http://437400b32b815fbcbbe6-b7f291b9a494eb23918bc0cfabb701b5.r1.cf3.rackcdn.com/rdrittrg.html?crtrg=http%3A//k70.safesecureredirect.com/%3F%26s1%3D6%26s2%3D46c8832e8906fb6c420572dd4917f2ef2655987a3d5cfc7313b8c2670c80

But With IE http://my.earthlink.net redirected on a smal enquete then
redirected in that page:
http://consumer-responses.com/belgium/v2.php?c1=MSTBE2c2=t202kw=Earthlink

Which is perfect.

THEN with IE i re-type http://my.earthlink.net
and i got the op pagehttp://i.imgur.com/deCKqoy.png PERFECTLY

As you can see here : http://cjoint.com/?0LDjDBaNQwv
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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread Rufus

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/28/2014 6:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

NoOp wrote:


SQLite currently uses nine distinct types of temporary files:

  Rollback journals
  Master journals
  Write-ahead Log (WAL) files
  Shared-memory files
  Statement journals
  TEMP databases
  Materializations of views and subqueries
  Transient indices
  Transient databases used by VACUUM

Additional information about each of these temporary file types is in
the sequel.


Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect SM to clean up these and all other
temp files in the course of a normal shutdown (not a crash or
force-close from the OS)? Or is that level of hygiene too much to expect?

In that case, shutting down SM on the two machines should purge all temp
files on both, and then copying places.sqlite from one to the other
should create no problems.

The only way a straightforward copy should cause problems would be if SM
did not complete its housekeeping, right? And if so, deleting
places.sqlite AND the temp files on the target machine should avoid any
repercussions, right? It could even be a cure-all if the target machine
were having trouble and the source machine were not.

Or am I being hopelessly naïve?




Windows 7 Ultimate
SeaMonkey 2.26.1

The temporary sqlite files are indeed deleted when I terminate
SeaMonkey.



Same observation with Mac OS X and SM 2.26.1.

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Re: Updating SM To Older Version

2014-12-29 Thread Daniel

On 29/12/14 16:41, HenriK wrote:

Thanks to all who commented.  Unfortunately, I don't think I stated my
concerns very carefully.

My existing SM 2.24 is installed in a different hard drive partition (F)
than the operating system (C).  I seem to remember that picking a new
copy of SM will try to install it only in the C partition.

Is that correct or will pulling a copy of the v.2.30 installation file
out of the SM version list successfully overwrite the files in my v.2.24
existing installation without raising havoc with the existing profiles,
mail location, etc.

If something goes terribly wrong, where are the instructions these days
on installing SM in a HD partition of a user's choice?

Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice and assistance.


HenriK wrote:

Is there someway to update an existing and older version of SM to a newer
version other than the latest version?

I want to go from v.2.24 to v.2.30 without changing anything else.
The update
screen appears to only allow going to the latest version, v.2.31,
something I
don't want to do at this time.

Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice and assistance.


Henrik, if you want to install SeaMonkey to anywhere except somewhere on 
the C:\ HD, it is my belief that you *must* do a CUSTOM installation and 
then tell SM where you want it installed. Do *not* just let SM install 
itself, else it will install to the C:\.


No great problem!

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Re: Pdf

2014-12-29 Thread Jonathan N. Little

F Murtz wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:



Try the IRS forms at
http://apps.irs.gov/app/picklist/list/formsPublications.html.  For me,
they open in a SeaMonkey window.


No exactly the same thing occurs,download with green bar then blank screen.


But do you have SM set to use the *Nitro* plugin? Because the Nitro 
plugin progress bar is not green.


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Re: Pdf

2014-12-29 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

F Murtz wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:



Try the IRS forms at
http://apps.irs.gov/app/picklist/list/formsPublications.html.  For me,
they open in a SeaMonkey window.


No exactly the same thing occurs,download with green bar then blank
screen.


But do you have SM set to use the *Nitro* plugin? Because the Nitro
plugin progress bar is not green.



http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/nitroplugin

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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread Ant

On 12/29/2014 12:40 AM, Rufus wrote:


Windows 7 Ultimate
SeaMonkey 2.26.1

The temporary sqlite files are indeed deleted when I terminate
SeaMonkey.



Same observation with Mac OS X and SM 2.26.1.


Now try again with v2.31. :(
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Re: Earthlink Homepage loading incorrectly (Jonathan N. Little)

2014-12-29 Thread Larry H

I know what it is. Loading wrong stylesheet. Got to menu
View  Use Style switch from Default Style to no title and it will
fix it.
I tried this fix, but it made it worse!
thanks
Larry

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 oddity under Ubuntu Trusty

2014-12-29 Thread NFN Smith

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I meant to mention this before but I found the places.sqlite issue
more important.

Prior to 2.31, whenever I'd launch Seamonkey under Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty
Tahr) I'd get two icons appearing in the launcher, the icon for the
browser (the standard Seamonkey icon) and the icon for the Mail/News
client (I have both launch by default) so it is pretty easy to switch
from one to the other via the launcher.


Although I do my primary work from a Windows installation, I have 2.31 
installed on Ubuntu 12.04, and I use both mail and browser, when I'm 
doing work on the Ubuntu box.




Also, if I opened a composition window, that would create another mail
type icon in the launcher.

Ever since 2.31, however, I only get one icon, and it is a generic gray
icon with a question mark in the center.  Both components are still
active, and I can use those little icons in the bottom left hand edge of
Seamonkey itself to switch, but if I'm using multiple workspaces I can't
easily click back to where I want to go from the launcher.  Clicking
that generic gray icon will take me to the last Seamonkey window I was
in; not specifically to the browser or E-Mail client.

I know as a Linux (Ubuntu) user I'm in the minority here but has anyone
else seen this?



I'm writing from the Ubuntu box, and not seeing any differences in that 
area from what I see in Windows.  On the Ubuntu side, I normally have 
Seamonkey set to launch only the browser on startup.  I just reset to 
launch both browser and mail, and I'm not seeing anything unexpected, 
and I do have some number of extensions installed.


If I remember correctly, you get your updates from Ubuntuzilla, which is 
where I get mine.  Which desktop are you running?  I normally run KDE, 
although I sometimes use GNOME classic, but I haven't checked behavior 
there.


I'm inclined to believe that this one isn't a platform problem, but more 
likely some sort of quirk in your user profile.  See what happens when 
you give Safe Mode (Help - Restart with addons disabled) a try, if you 
haven't done so already.


I noted a couple of weeks back, when 2.31 was released, that I suddenly 
was having crashes when starting a portable apps version of 2.31 in 
Windows.  I launched that one in Safe Mode, and the problem went away, 
even after I reenabled all the extensions, one at a time.  After I 
reenabled my extensions, I've had no problems running in normal mode.


I don't know what happened, but somewhere, in the process of using Safe 
Mode, whatever was causing that crash went away.


I haven't followed your thread with places.sqlite discussion, but I will 
suggest that it's worth trying Safe Mode to see if Safe Mode might have 
any effect on that problem, as well.  Safe Mode isn't a panacea, but it 
is a quick way of determining if problems stem from something in your 
user profile.  And by my experience, a significant number of problems of 
all sorts, in not only Seamonkey, but Firefox and Thunderbird (and on 
all platforms) seem to have their roots in something that originates 
inside the user profile.


Smith




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Plugin-Container.exe

2014-12-29 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi:

This morning Firefox was locked up and after awhile a pop up window appeared 
asking if I wanted to stop a script:
b.scorecardresearch.com/rs/vce_st.js:1
It took a reboot to bring back the browser.

After a little research I found No Script  Adblock Plus and installed them.
Restarting Firefox all seemed OK.

Then changed cookie preferences to be more restrictive.

Now Firefox will no boot.

I reinstalled Firefox from their web page but the non start problem persists.

At one point I saw a message that said there was a problem with 
Plugin-Container.exe

Any thoughts on how to get Firefox back?

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Re: Earthlink Homepage loading incorrectly (Jonathan N. Little)

2014-12-29 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Larry H wrote:

I know what it is. Loading wrong stylesheet. Got to menu
View  Use Style switch from Default Style to no title and it will
fix it.
I tried this fix, but it made it worse!
thanks
Larry



You also keep creating an new thread instead of *replying* to the message...

Anyway, if the above is correct than you must have some extension that 
is blocking some of the linked stylesheets. Did you try with safe-mode 
with all extensions disabled?


SeaMonkey.exe -safe-mode


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Re: Plugin-Container.exe

2014-12-29 Thread Ed Mullen

Brooke Clarke wrote on 12/29/2014 12:02 PM:

Hi:

This morning Firefox was locked up and after awhile a pop up window
appeared asking if I wanted to stop a script:
b.scorecardresearch.com/rs/vce_st.js:1
It took a reboot to bring back the browser.

After a little research I found No Script  Adblock Plus and installed
them.
Restarting Firefox all seemed OK.

Then changed cookie preferences to be more restrictive.

Now Firefox will no boot.

I reinstalled Firefox from their web page but the non start problem
persists.

At one point I saw a message that said there was a problem with
Plugin-Container.exe

Any thoughts on how to get Firefox back?



Try Safe Mode.  Most likely:

firefox.exe -safe-mode

Let us know what happens.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 oddity under Ubuntu Trusty

2014-12-29 Thread NoOp

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

I meant to mention this before but I found the places.sqlite issue
more important.

Prior to 2.31, whenever I'd launch Seamonkey under Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty
Tahr) I'd get two icons appearing in the launcher, the icon for the
browser (the standard Seamonkey icon) and the icon for the Mail/News
client (I have both launch by default) so it is pretty easy to switch
from one to the other via the launcher.

Also, if I opened a composition window, that would create another mail
type icon in the launcher.

Ever since 2.31, however, I only get one icon, and it is a generic gray
icon with a question mark in the center.  Both components are still
active, and I can use those little icons in the bottom left hand edge of
Seamonkey itself to switch, but if I'm using multiple workspaces I can't
easily click back to where I want to go from the launcher.  Clicking
that generic gray icon will take me to the last Seamonkey window I was
in; not specifically to the browser or E-Mail client.

I know as a Linux (Ubuntu) user I'm in the minority here but has anyone
else seen this?



My guess is a Unity update/setting/change. I've just switched to an 
alternate test user in Ubuntu 14.04 using Unity, installed SeaMonkey 
both from the SeaMonkey project in /home/user and also via 
ubuntuzilla. Regardless of which version I use, I only get one icon on 
the Unity launcher with the browser, email, and newgroup windows open. 
If you right click on the icon you can easily switch between any of 
those (email, browser, newsgroup et al).


I use gnome-flashback rather than Unity, but were I a Unity desktop user 
I wouldn't want additional application window icons cluttering up the 
launcher - instead I'd rather have one icon that I can right click and 
select which window to switch to.


btw: (seems I've lost uppercase w on this desktop) I just fired up an 
Ubuntu 12.04 using 2d (it's a netbook) and on that version of Unity 
SeaMonkey 2.31 *does* open an icon for each (browser, mail, newsgroup). 
So your issue is not related to SeaMonkey, but instead to how the Unity 
launcher is set up. You can try asking for help on askubuntu  most 
likely someone there will be able to tell you how to reset the launcher 
to show the individual window icons.


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Can Not add new mail account

2014-12-29 Thread JAS
I am using SM 2.30 and just tried to add a new mail account and it takes 
me to adding a new news account. Is this new or has it been a problem 
for some time? I just noticed it as I have not tried to add a new 
account for quite some time.

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Re: Can Not add new mail account

2014-12-29 Thread WaltS48

On 12/29/2014 03:06 PM, JAS wrote:

I am using SM 2.30 and just tried to add a new mail account and it takes
me to adding a new news account. Is this new or has it been a problem
for some time? I just noticed it as I have not tried to add a new
account for quite some time.
Thanks




Been a known issue for quite a few releases.

After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews 
account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To 
work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X 
is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in 
about:config, or delete the invalid news account


REF: [SeaMonkey 2.31 Release 
Notes](http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.31/#issues)


Bug report: [521861 – After creating news account through clicking news 
URL Account Wizard is broken (skips account type selection, bound to 
invalid news account)](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861)

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Problem Printing Images

2014-12-29 Thread David E. Ross
Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
SeaMonkey 2.26.1
HP Color LaserJet CP1215

Some applications print JPEGs and GIFs in full color without any
problems. This includes Photo Editor (imported from Windows XP) and
Paint (the Windows 7 version).

However, other applications merely print a black rectangle the size of
the image.  This includes SeaMonkey 2.26.1 and the GNU Image
Manipulation Program.  Also, Word 2007 prints a strange black and white
version that is horizontally stretched with vertical white stripes equal
in width (narrow) to image stripes.

For example, see my Web page at
http://www.rossde.com/call_important.html.  The Blondie cartoon
strips are affected by this problem  Note that I have no problem
printing color text.  On that cited page, colored text indicating
visited or unvisited links print in color correctly.

Using doPDF, I tried printing that Web page to a PDF file.  The PDF
file displays correctly.  Using Adobe Reader to print it, however, the
pale green background is black, the text is white, and the images show
the same strangeness as when printing with Word 2007.

All this worked okay until malware prevented me from booting Windows 7.
 I had to reinstall Windows 7 and all applications, including my HP
Color LaserJet CP1215 printer.  Fortunately, all my data were on a
separate hard drive that was not affected by the malware or the
reinstallation.

I am sure that this problem is not entirely within SeaMonkey.  Being
able to print okay with Photo Editor and Paint but not with SeaMonkey
indicates to me that the problem is with the interface between SeaMonkey
and my printer.

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https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.
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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/29/2014 7:05 AM, Ant wrote:
 On 12/29/2014 12:40 AM, Rufus wrote:
 
 Windows 7 Ultimate
 SeaMonkey 2.26.1

 The temporary sqlite files are indeed deleted when I terminate
 SeaMonkey.


 Same observation with Mac OS X and SM 2.26.1.
 
 Now try again with v2.31. :(
 

No.  I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.

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Re: Earthlink Homepage loading incorrectly (Jonathan N. Little)

2014-12-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/29/2014 9:05 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 Larry H wrote:
 I know what it is. Loading wrong stylesheet. Got to menu
 View  Use Style switch from Default Style to no title and it will
 fix it.
 I tried this fix, but it made it worse!
 thanks
 Larry

 
 You also keep creating an new thread instead of *replying* to the message...
 
 Anyway, if the above is correct than you must have some extension that 
 is blocking some of the linked stylesheets. Did you try with safe-mode 
 with all extensions disabled?
 
 SeaMonkey.exe -safe-mode
 
 

You are also improperly quoting the messages to which you are replying.
 Don't reply via E-mail.  Instead, add an account for news.mozilla.org;
it's free.  Then, subscribe to the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 oddity under Ubuntu Trusty

2014-12-29 Thread Cruz, Jaime

NoOp wrote:

If you right click on the icon you can easily switch between any of
those (email, browser, newsgroup et al).




Thanks for that.  I wasn't aware of that.  The icon is still the ugly 
grey question mark generic icon, but at least now I can easily switch 
from one to the other.



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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 oddity under Ubuntu Trusty

2014-12-29 Thread Cruz, Jaime

NFN Smith wrote:


If I remember correctly, you get your updates from Ubuntuzilla, which is
where I get mine.  Which desktop are you running?  I normally run KDE,
although I sometimes use GNOME classic, but I haven't checked behavior
there.




I use the default Unity desktop.  As I mentioned, I do not see this 
behavior on my wife's Linux Mint system running Cinnamon, so I suspect 
something changed that Unity doesn't particularly like.



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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 oddity under Ubuntu Trusty

2014-12-29 Thread NoOp
On 12/29/2014 04:02 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 If you right click on the icon you can easily switch between any of
 those (email, browser, newsgroup et al).


 
 Thanks for that.  I wasn't aware of that.  The icon is still the ugly 
 grey question mark generic icon, but at least now I can easily switch 
 from one to the other.
 
 

You can set the standard icon pretty easily:

Look in your ~/.local/share/applications folder for a seamonkey desktop
file (it might be 'userapp-SeaMonkey' or simply seamonkey.desktop. Open
it in gedit (or your favorite editor and add the icon:

Icon[en_US]=path-to-your-seamonkey-installseamonkey/chrome/icons/default/seamonkey.png

Example of one of mine - I have seamonkey installed (extracted to)
/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey:

[Desktop Entry]
Categories=GTK;Network;
GenericName=Internet Suite
Icon[en_US]=/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/seamonkey.png
NoDisplay=false
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Exec=/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey %u
Name[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Name=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Comment[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Comment=Mozilla SeaMonkey

and on a Unity user desktop I have :

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=1.0
Type=Application
NoDisplay=true
Icon=/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/default.png
Exec=/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey %u
Name=SeaMonkey
Comment=Custom definition for SeaMonkey

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Re: Updating SM To Older Version

2014-12-29 Thread NoOp
On 12/28/2014 09:41 PM, HenriK wrote:
 Thanks to all who commented.  Unfortunately, I don't think I stated my 
 concerns 
 very carefully.
 
 My existing SM 2.24 is installed in a different hard drive partition (F) than 
 the operating system (C).  I seem to remember that picking a new copy of SM 
 will 
 try to install it only in the C partition.
 
 Is that correct or will pulling a copy of the v.2.30 installation file out of 
 the SM version list successfully overwrite the files in my v.2.24 existing 
 installation without raising havoc with the existing profiles, mail location, 
 etc.
 
 If something goes terribly wrong, where are the instructions these days on 
 installing SM in a HD partition of a user's choice?
 
 Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice and assistance.
 
 
 HenriK wrote:
 Is there someway to update an existing and older version of SM to a newer
 version other than the latest version?

 I want to go from v.2.24 to v.2.30 without changing anything else.  The 
 update
 screen appears to only allow going to the latest version, v.2.31, something I
 don't want to do at this time.

 Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice and assistance.
 

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall

Download the zip file, extract to where you want to run it from, extract
it, and double-click seamonkey.exe. It will open up to your existing
profile. If not, then you adjust/move your profile:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder


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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread NoOp
On 12/28/2014 07:20 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/28/2014 6:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 SQLite currently uses nine distinct types of temporary files:

  Rollback journals
  Master journals
  Write-ahead Log (WAL) files
  Shared-memory files
  Statement journals
  TEMP databases
  Materializations of views and subqueries
  Transient indices
  Transient databases used by VACUUM

 Additional information about each of these temporary file types is in
 the sequel.
 
 Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect SM to clean up these and all other 
 temp files in the course of a normal shutdown (not a crash or 
 force-close from the OS)? Or is that level of hygiene too much to expect?
 
 In that case, shutting down SM on the two machines should purge all temp 
 files on both, and then copying places.sqlite from one to the other 
 should create no problems.
 
 The only way a straightforward copy should cause problems would be if SM 
 did not complete its housekeeping, right? And if so, deleting 
 places.sqlite AND the temp files on the target machine should avoid any 
 repercussions, right? It could even be a cure-all if the target machine 
 were having trouble and the source machine were not.
 
 Or am I being hopelessly naïve?
 
 
 
 Windows 7 Ultimate
 SeaMonkey 2.26.1
 
 The temporary sqlite files are indeed deleted when I terminate
 SeaMonkey.
 


I just opened a new 2.26.1 on a Win 8.1 and the places.sqlite-wal and
places.sqlite-shm are not removed when SeaMonkey (2.26.1) is closed
(File|Exit)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221
Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1

Did the same with a new 2.31 on Win 8.1 and it also left the files behind.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31

Note: both are new installs (same VM) with new, separate profiles as well.


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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/29/2014 5:52 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 12/28/2014 07:20 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/28/2014 6:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 NoOp wrote:

 SQLite currently uses nine distinct types of temporary files:

  Rollback journals
  Master journals
  Write-ahead Log (WAL) files
  Shared-memory files
  Statement journals
  TEMP databases
  Materializations of views and subqueries
  Transient indices
  Transient databases used by VACUUM

 Additional information about each of these temporary file types is in
 the sequel.

 Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect SM to clean up these and all other 
 temp files in the course of a normal shutdown (not a crash or 
 force-close from the OS)? Or is that level of hygiene too much to expect?

 In that case, shutting down SM on the two machines should purge all temp 
 files on both, and then copying places.sqlite from one to the other 
 should create no problems.

 The only way a straightforward copy should cause problems would be if SM 
 did not complete its housekeeping, right? And if so, deleting 
 places.sqlite AND the temp files on the target machine should avoid any 
 repercussions, right? It could even be a cure-all if the target machine 
 were having trouble and the source machine were not.

 Or am I being hopelessly naïve?



 Windows 7 Ultimate
 SeaMonkey 2.26.1

 The temporary sqlite files are indeed deleted when I terminate
 SeaMonkey.

 
 
 I just opened a new 2.26.1 on a Win 8.1 and the places.sqlite-wal and
 places.sqlite-shm are not removed when SeaMonkey (2.26.1) is closed
 (File|Exit)
 
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221
 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1
 
 Did the same with a new 2.31 on Win 8.1 and it also left the files behind.
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31
 
 Note: both are new installs (same VM) with new, separate profiles as well.
 
 

With SeaMonkey running, I just now opened my profile and saw
places.sqlite-shm and places.sqlite-wal as well as
webappsstore.sqlite-shm and webappsstore.sqlite-wal.  I then terminated
SeaMonkey, and those four files disappeared.

On the Private Data pane of the Preferences window, I checked the
checkbox for Always clear my private data when I close SeaMonkey.
Under When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:,
I checked the checkboxes for Cache and Offline Website Data.  Try these
to see if this stops the retention of the -wal and -shm files.

-- 
David E. Ross

I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.
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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

NoOp wrote:


I just opened a new 2.26.1 on a Win 8.1 and the places.sqlite-wal and
places.sqlite-shm are not removed when SeaMonkey (2.26.1) is closed
(File|Exit)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221
Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1


Something's wrong with your numbers here...

Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 -- really?

Or did you mean Firefox/29.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.26.1?

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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread NoOp
On 12/29/2014 06:51 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/29/2014 5:52 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 12/28/2014 07:20 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/28/2014 6:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 NoOp wrote:

 SQLite currently uses nine distinct types of temporary files:

  Rollback journals
  Master journals
  Write-ahead Log (WAL) files
  Shared-memory files
  Statement journals
  TEMP databases
  Materializations of views and subqueries
  Transient indices
  Transient databases used by VACUUM

 Additional information about each of these temporary file types is in
 the sequel.

 Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect SM to clean up these and all other 
 temp files in the course of a normal shutdown (not a crash or 
 force-close from the OS)? Or is that level of hygiene too much to expect?

 In that case, shutting down SM on the two machines should purge all temp 
 files on both, and then copying places.sqlite from one to the other 
 should create no problems.

 The only way a straightforward copy should cause problems would be if SM 
 did not complete its housekeeping, right? And if so, deleting 
 places.sqlite AND the temp files on the target machine should avoid any 
 repercussions, right? It could even be a cure-all if the target machine 
 were having trouble and the source machine were not.

 Or am I being hopelessly naïve?



 Windows 7 Ultimate
 SeaMonkey 2.26.1

 The temporary sqlite files are indeed deleted when I terminate
 SeaMonkey.

 
 
 I just opened a new 2.26.1 on a Win 8.1 and the places.sqlite-wal and
 places.sqlite-shm are not removed when SeaMonkey (2.26.1) is closed
 (File|Exit)
 
 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221
 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1
 
 Did the same with a new 2.31 on Win 8.1 and it also left the files behind.
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31
 
 Note: both are new installs (same VM) with new, separate profiles as well.
 
 
 
 With SeaMonkey running, I just now opened my profile and saw
 places.sqlite-shm and places.sqlite-wal as well as
 webappsstore.sqlite-shm and webappsstore.sqlite-wal.  I then terminated
 SeaMonkey, and those four files disappeared.
 
 On the Private Data pane of the Preferences window, I checked the
 checkbox for Always clear my private data when I close SeaMonkey.
 Under When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:,
 I checked the checkboxes for Cache and Offline Website Data.  Try these
 to see if this stops the retention of the -wal and -shm files.
 

I think the sqlite pragma settings in places.sqlite is at issue. When I
have more time on Wednesday I'll try to compare the settings in a clean
2.61 and clean 2.31. In the interim, can you install the SQlite Manager
addon  have a look at places.sqlite then check the db settings  post ala:

http://s23.postimg.org/okrcc359n/Screenshot_from_2014_12_29_18_17_41.png
http://s23.postimg.org/f41j5glez/Screenshot_from_2014_12_29_18_06_00.png


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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread NoOp
On 12/29/2014 07:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 I just opened a new 2.26.1 on a Win 8.1 and the places.sqlite-wal and
 places.sqlite-shm are not removed when SeaMonkey (2.26.1) is closed
 (File|Exit)

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221
 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1
 
 Something's wrong with your numbers here...
 
 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 -- really?
 
 Or did you mean Firefox/29.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.26.1?
 

No, correction: I just opened a new 2.26.1 should read I just opened
a new 2.6.1 - no mistake otherwise - I did load up 2.6.1 not 2.26.1.

http://s11.postimg.org/lrg9gha0j/Screenshot_from_2014_12_29_19_32_59.png


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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread NoOp
On 12/29/2014 07:34 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 12/29/2014 07:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 I just opened a new 2.26.1 on a Win 8.1 and the places.sqlite-wal and
 places.sqlite-shm are not removed when SeaMonkey (2.26.1) is closed
 (File|Exit)

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221
 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1
 
 Something's wrong with your numbers here...
 
 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 -- really?
 
 Or did you mean Firefox/29.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.26.1?
 
 
 No, correction: I just opened a new 2.26.1 should read I just opened
 a new 2.6.1 - no mistake otherwise - I did load up 2.6.1 not 2.26.1.
 
 http://s11.postimg.org/lrg9gha0j/Screenshot_from_2014_12_29_19_32_59.png
 
 

Note: that shot is showing WOW64 in the UI as I switched to running the
windows version in Wine rather than in VMWare.


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Spell-checker setting won't stick

2014-12-29 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31

Build identifier: 20141202220728

I have the Russian Hunspell spellchecking dictionary extension 
installed (1.0.20131101), which says it's current. For English, I just 
use the built-in dictionary, with a few terms I've added.


Under Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Spelling, the pull-down list offers:
English/United States
Russian/Russian Federation

I choose English/United States, but SeaMonkey regularly changes the 
setting without notice or prompting to Russian/Russian Federation. I 
can tell because email composition windows suddenly flag everything as 
misspelled, and input boxes in the browser do the same.


I could understand if it did this when I visited a Russian site or 
displayed an email with Cyrillic content. But that's not what's 
happening. It just does it randomly (AFAICT), for no apparent reason.


So I change it back to English/United States, and after a little while 
SM overrules my pref and sets it to Russian/Russian Federation again. 
The interval is often only a few minutes, and usually less than an hour.


My language acceptance settings at Edit | Preferences | Browser | 
Languages are:

English [en]
Russian [ru]
Korean [ko]
in that order.

Any idea what's happening, and how I can get the setting to stick until 
and unless /I personally/ decide to change it? If it helps any, the pref 
in about:config at spellchecker.dictionary is en-US by default, or ru-RU 
(user set) when SM goes rogue. But this user never set it to ru-RU, 
that's a figment of SM's imagination.


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Re: places.sqlite

2014-12-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 12/29/2014 7:24 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 12/29/2014 06:51 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/29/2014 5:52 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 12/28/2014 07:20 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/28/2014 6:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 NoOp wrote:

 SQLite currently uses nine distinct types of temporary files:

  Rollback journals
  Master journals
  Write-ahead Log (WAL) files
  Shared-memory files
  Statement journals
  TEMP databases
  Materializations of views and subqueries
  Transient indices
  Transient databases used by VACUUM

 Additional information about each of these temporary file types is in
 the sequel.

 Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect SM to clean up these and all other 
 temp files in the course of a normal shutdown (not a crash or 
 force-close from the OS)? Or is that level of hygiene too much to expect?

 In that case, shutting down SM on the two machines should purge all temp 
 files on both, and then copying places.sqlite from one to the other 
 should create no problems.

 The only way a straightforward copy should cause problems would be if SM 
 did not complete its housekeeping, right? And if so, deleting 
 places.sqlite AND the temp files on the target machine should avoid any 
 repercussions, right? It could even be a cure-all if the target machine 
 were having trouble and the source machine were not.

 Or am I being hopelessly naïve?



 Windows 7 Ultimate
 SeaMonkey 2.26.1

 The temporary sqlite files are indeed deleted when I terminate
 SeaMonkey.



 I just opened a new 2.26.1 on a Win 8.1 and the places.sqlite-wal and
 places.sqlite-shm are not removed when SeaMonkey (2.26.1) is closed
 (File|Exit)

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221
 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1

 Did the same with a new 2.31 on Win 8.1 and it also left the files behind.

 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31

 Note: both are new installs (same VM) with new, separate profiles as well.



 With SeaMonkey running, I just now opened my profile and saw
 places.sqlite-shm and places.sqlite-wal as well as
 webappsstore.sqlite-shm and webappsstore.sqlite-wal.  I then terminated
 SeaMonkey, and those four files disappeared.

 On the Private Data pane of the Preferences window, I checked the
 checkbox for Always clear my private data when I close SeaMonkey.
 Under When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:,
 I checked the checkboxes for Cache and Offline Website Data.  Try these
 to see if this stops the retention of the -wal and -shm files.

 
 I think the sqlite pragma settings in places.sqlite is at issue. When I
 have more time on Wednesday I'll try to compare the settings in a clean
 2.61 and clean 2.31. In the interim, can you install the SQlite Manager
 addon  have a look at places.sqlite then check the db settings  post ala:
 
 http://s23.postimg.org/okrcc359n/Screenshot_from_2014_12_29_18_17_41.png
 http://s23.postimg.org/f41j5glez/Screenshot_from_2014_12_29_18_06_00.png
 
 

Since I am not having the problem that is on-topic for this thread, I
decline to put further effort into diagnosing it.

-- 
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I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1064639.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 oddity under Ubuntu Trusty

2014-12-29 Thread Jonathan N. Little

NoOp wrote:

snip



[Desktop Entry]
Categories=GTK;Network;
GenericName=Internet Suite
Icon[en_US]=/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/seamonkey.png
NoDisplay=false
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Exec=/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey %u
Name[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Name=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Comment[en_US]=Mozilla SeaMonkey
Comment=Mozilla SeaMonkey

and on a Unity user desktop I have :

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=1.0
Type=Application
NoDisplay=true
Icon=/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/chrome/icons/default/default.png
Exec=/home/user/seamonkey/seamonkey/seamonkey %u
Name=SeaMonkey
Comment=Custom definition for SeaMonkey

save  you'll have the SeaMonkey icon.


This is the one I created with alternated actions for the Unity launcher

[Desktop Entry]
X-AppInstall-Package=seamonkey-mozilla-build
X-AppInstall-Section=main

Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Mozilla Build of Seamonkey
GenericName=Internet Suite
Comment=Web Browser, Email/News Client, HTML Editor, IRC Client
Exec=seamonkey %u
Icon=seamonkey-mozilla-build
Terminal=false
X-MultipleArgs=false
Type=Application
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;Email;WebDevelopment;IRCClient;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;x-scheme-handler/ftp;x-scheme-handler/chrome;video/webm;application/x-xpinstall;;x-scheme-handler/mailto;application/x-xpinstall;
StartupNotify=true
Actions=NewWindow;NewPrivateWindow;Mail;Compose;Contacts

[Desktop Action NewWindow]
Name=Open a New Window
Exec=seamonkey -new-window
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

[Desktop Action NewPrivateWindow]
Name=Open a New Private Window
Exec=seamonkey -private-window
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

[Desktop Action Mail]
Name=Mail Client
Exec=seamonkey -mail
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

[Desktop Action Compose]
Name=Compose New Message
Exec=seamonkey -compose
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

[Desktop Action Contacts]
Name=Contacts
Exec=seamonkey -addressbook
OnlyShowIn=Unity;

X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=app-install-data


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