Re: Plugin check confusion
On 1/26/2015 11:23 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Lee wrote: On 1/27/15, Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote: Lately the Mozilla plugin check has been confused and confusing: some plugins that are up to date according to their publishers are listed as out of date, and others are suddenly unknown. What gives? Did Mozilla suddenly abandon this and quit managing it? It's a non-trivial task keeping the list updated but your first example shows they are keeping it current. Examples: Adobe Shockwave Flash 16.0.0.287 is listed as potentially vulnerable and I'm advised to update, but this is the current version. Just checking if you've got the latest version available for download isn't good enuf :( It's all a user can do, ain't it? -- At least a user who's unwilling to let software update itself automatically without asking. But thanks for the heads-up. http://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-01.html Users who have enabled auto-update for the Flash Player desktop runtime will be receiving version 16.0.0.296 Adobe expects to have an update available for manual download during the week of January 26 OK, let's see when the week of January 26 begins at Adobe. Adobe Acrobat 10.X (in my case, 10.1.13.16) has been listed as out of date for years, but there are no updates available (unless I want to shell out hundreds of dollars for a version upgrade -- any reason to do that?). Adobe security bulletins are at http://helpx.adobe.com/security.html OK, thanks. The famous Java Runtime Environment is suddenly up to date and green although it's blocked as unsafe. Hunh? JRE has had a pretty bad security record lately. The latest version probably is unsafe. Yep, I know from about:addons. So why's it up to date and green here? Not the same treatment as for Flash, which is also vulnerable but not updateable. All these are unknown: Windows Activation Technologies (v. 7.1.7600.16395) VLC Web Plugin v. 2.1.3.0 as discussed here at length Adobe Shockwave for Director v. 12.1.6.156 Microsoft Office 2010 v.14.0.4730.1010 Windows Live Photo Gallery v. 15.4.3538.513 The last two have been unknown for years but the other three are new additions to the list. uhmm... seems to me that if they're new additions then clearly mozilla hasn't abandoned the plugin check. Really? Shockwave for Director is suddenly unknown after all these years? Did something break between here and Adobe? Doesn't look to me like they're maintaining it if the Office 2010 and Windows Live Photo Gallery plugins have been unknown for three years. I updated Flash on Saturday to 296 a few moments after Adobe announced the new version. Here's where you should be updating Flash: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html For IE 10 and 11 you go here (if Microsoft wakes up and patches): https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/2755801 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
On 1/27/15, Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote: Lately the Mozilla plugin check has been confused and confusing: some plugins that are up to date according to their publishers are listed as out of date, and others are suddenly unknown. What gives? Did Mozilla suddenly abandon this and quit managing it? It's a non-trivial task keeping the list updated but your first example shows they are keeping it current. Examples: Adobe Shockwave Flash 16.0.0.287 is listed as potentially vulnerable and I'm advised to update, but this is the current version. Just checking if you've got the latest version available for download isn't good enuf :( http://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-01.html Users who have enabled auto-update for the Flash Player desktop runtime will be receiving version 16.0.0.296 Adobe expects to have an update available for manual download during the week of January 26 Adobe Acrobat 10.X (in my case, 10.1.13.16) has been listed as out of date for years, but there are no updates available (unless I want to shell out hundreds of dollars for a version upgrade -- any reason to do that?). Adobe security bulletins are at http://helpx.adobe.com/security.html The famous Java Runtime Environment is suddenly up to date and green although it's blocked as unsafe. Hunh? JRE has had a pretty bad security record lately. The latest version probably is unsafe. All these are unknown: Windows Activation Technologies (v. 7.1.7600.16395) VLC Web Plugin v. 2.1.3.0 as discussed here at length Adobe Shockwave for Director v. 12.1.6.156 Microsoft Office 2010 v.14.0.4730.1010 Windows Live Photo Gallery v. 15.4.3538.513 The last two have been unknown for years but the other three are new additions to the list. uhmm... seems to me that if they're new additions then clearly mozilla hasn't abandoned the plugin check. Regards, Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
Lee wrote: On 1/27/15, Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote: Lately the Mozilla plugin check has been confused and confusing: some plugins that are up to date according to their publishers are listed as out of date, and others are suddenly unknown. What gives? Did Mozilla suddenly abandon this and quit managing it? It's a non-trivial task keeping the list updated but your first example shows they are keeping it current. Examples: Adobe Shockwave Flash 16.0.0.287 is listed as potentially vulnerable and I'm advised to update, but this is the current version. Just checking if you've got the latest version available for download isn't good enuf :( It's all a user can do, ain't it? -- At least a user who's unwilling to let software update itself automatically without asking. But thanks for the heads-up. http://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-01.html Users who have enabled auto-update for the Flash Player desktop runtime will be receiving version 16.0.0.296 Adobe expects to have an update available for manual download during the week of January 26 OK, let's see when the week of January 26 begins at Adobe. Adobe Acrobat 10.X (in my case, 10.1.13.16) has been listed as out of date for years, but there are no updates available (unless I want to shell out hundreds of dollars for a version upgrade -- any reason to do that?). Adobe security bulletins are at http://helpx.adobe.com/security.html OK, thanks. The famous Java Runtime Environment is suddenly up to date and green although it's blocked as unsafe. Hunh? JRE has had a pretty bad security record lately. The latest version probably is unsafe. Yep, I know from about:addons. So why's it up to date and green here? Not the same treatment as for Flash, which is also vulnerable but not updateable. All these are unknown: Windows Activation Technologies (v. 7.1.7600.16395) VLC Web Plugin v. 2.1.3.0 as discussed here at length Adobe Shockwave for Director v. 12.1.6.156 Microsoft Office 2010 v.14.0.4730.1010 Windows Live Photo Gallery v. 15.4.3538.513 The last two have been unknown for years but the other three are new additions to the list. uhmm... seems to me that if they're new additions then clearly mozilla hasn't abandoned the plugin check. Really? Shockwave for Director is suddenly unknown after all these years? Did something break between here and Adobe? Doesn't look to me like they're maintaining it if the Office 2010 and Windows Live Photo Gallery plugins have been unknown for three years. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bug 1122697 - Warning dialog when opening many tabs is broken
On 27/01/2015 5:11 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On 27/01/2015 12:40, sean wrote: The problem as reported in Bug 1122697: Unexpected: 1. try opening a folder with 15 bookmarks 2. Warning shows. Dismiss warning. 3. no bookmarks open. == Can you reproduce #3 on your Linux/SeaMonkey? In other words, is it a quirk in the reporters system or does this happen reliably for other Linux people as well. Phil peppermintOS linux user here: 1. tried opening a folder with 53 bookmarks... 2. dismissed warning... 3 no bookmarks opened... Oh good. Thanks for testing. Phil So why am I not getting a warning?? I was going to ask if it might be a 32bit/64bit thing, but Sean is also on 64bit, so his peppermint OS 64 works but my Mageia 64 doesn't!! (Yes, I'm on Win7 tonight.) -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20150101220549 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 27/01/2015 2:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Snip Twice nothing is still nothing, so is three or four times nothing. If a 2 KB message becomes an 8 KB message or even an 80 KB message, so what? It's not like you're cutting down an extra forest to make the paper. Thirty years ago, when a 20 MB HDD and a 4.77 MHz CPU was top of the line, maybe it mattered. Today, That's a wristwatch. So you might think, but, just as there are those that are not on ADSL/Cable connections yet, so there are those (pick me) with very limited e-mail accounts (e.g. 500KB) and if everyone had the same arrogant attitude that you seem to have, it would be costing (unemployed) money each day!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20150101220549 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: allowing flash player
A Williams wrote: Gerd Schweizer wrote: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: Gerd Schweizer wrote: In Germany the tv organizations offer cinemas in the internet till one week after sending. But they need the flash player. How can i tell seamonkey to allow the actual flash player? It's alreaday installed. What makes you think it's not allowed? Flash works fine here, has for years. A discussion here some time ago. Some sites deny the access with the text my flash player wouldn't be actual. After installing the actual version (ends with already installed) the same result. Flashblock i don't know, also i don't use whitelists. actual = means current. The German word is Aktuell. Yes, several languages I know do that, including French and Russian. But it's good you posted that for the non-translators. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: allowing flash player
Gerd Schweizer wrote: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: Gerd Schweizer wrote: In Germany the tv organizations offer cinemas in the internet till one week after sending. But they need the flash player. How can i tell seamonkey to allow the actual flash player? It's alreaday installed. What makes you think it's not allowed? Flash works fine here, has for years. A discussion here some time ago. Some sites deny the access with the text my flash player wouldn't be actual. After installing the actual version (ends with already installed) the same result. Flashblock i don't know, also i don't use whitelists. A common scam used to propagate malware is when sites tell you your Flash is out of date and tell you to go to their own site to upgrade. You should only upgrade from Adobe's own site. You can test here, and if you pass, your installation is current and you can ignore the scams: Test Adobe Flash: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ Test Shockwave: https://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: allowing flash player
Gerd Schweizer wrote: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: Gerd Schweizer wrote: In Germany the tv organizations offer cinemas in the internet till one week after sending. But they need the flash player. How can i tell seamonkey to allow the actual flash player? It's alreaday installed. What makes you think it's not allowed? Flash works fine here, has for years. A discussion here some time ago. Some sites deny the access with the text my flash player wouldn't be actual. After installing the actual version (ends with already installed) the same result. Flashblock i don't know, also i don't use whitelists. actual = means current. The German word is Aktuell. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey loops on log-ins
When I've used the SeaMonkey browser to log into various sites, it's been opening Internet Explorer, my default browser, to the same log-in page, and I could log in there. Then I made SM my default browser--now, when I enter my log-in name and password, that same log-in page opens in a new tab but nothing else happens. I'm running V2.32 under Win 7 x64. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
On 1/27/2015 5:47 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Desiree wrote: I haven't used Acrobat Reader in years but it's free. As for Adobe Acrobat it's not a plugin but a program. Haven't installed either in years. Used Foxit until recent problem with plugin caused in-browser display to be blank. Switch to Nitro...light and works. Yes, Nitro is good. Foxit used to be good but not in awhile. I use Evince which is the Linux PDF reader used in most versions of Linux. There is a version ported to Windows. It doesn't have a bunch of bells and whistles added but as a PDF reader it works fine even on Windows 8. I do wish SeaMonkey had Fx and PaleMoon built in PDF reader. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey loops on log-ins
Ivan Berger wrote: When I've used the SeaMonkey browser to log into various sites, it's been opening Internet Explorer, my default browser, to the same log-in page, and I could log in there. Then I made SM my default browser--now, when I enter my log-in name and password, that same log-in page opens in a new tab but nothing else happens. I'm running V2.32 under Win 7 x64. Looping on login is usually due to a failure to accept a site's cookies. Most webmasters assume all users accept all cookies all the time and don't bother to check or tell us what's wrong. Do Tools | Cookie Manager and make sure the setting isn't Block all cookies from this site. If not, double-check by doing Tools | Cookie Manager | Manage Stored Cookies and confirming that you do have cookies from the site in question. If the setting IS Block all cookies from this site, it should be possible to simply click the preferred setting, but for the past few years that hasn't worked for me (SM ignores my choice). In that case, do Tools | Cookie Manager | Manage Stored Cookies, right-click the domain name on the left, and choose Forget about this domain. Then the next time you visit (e.g., when you reload), SM will apply your default cookie policy from Edit | Preferences | Privacy Security | Cookies. (Of course, if your default policy is to reject all cookies, that won't help -- then you do have to set a special policy for the domain) -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
On 1/27/2015 3:23 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Desiree wrote: Mozilla is correct. Current version since Saturday Jan 24 is 296 for Flash. That is for all browsers except Chrome and IE 10 and 11. It's being updated in Chrome now. Microsoft is still asleep and has not issued an up for embedded Flash on IE 10 and 11.. I got 296 last Saturday for SeaMonkey, Firefox and PaleMoon. I update Flash manually and Adobe did not put it on their websites for manual update until late on Saturday but Adobe updated Flash early Saturday morning for everyone that has Flash set to autoupdate. That is how serious this latest zero day exploit was as it is almost unheard of Adobe to issue an update on a weekend and immediately update everyone on auto update as auto upate can usually take up to 7 days to update. I had to disable Flash in IE 10 and 11 since Microsoft has slept through the whole zero day thing. Who knew? I only found out about this last night; Adobe doesn't tell me this stuff and I don't live at the relevant fora. 296 is available this morning, so I'll install it as soon as I post this. I knew on Saturday immediately because I live in the Security forum at dslreports.com and a member posted about it even before Adobe put it out for manual updating. I haven't used Acrobat Reader in years but it's free. As for Adobe Acrobat it's not a plugin but a program. I'm well aware of the difference, but Mozilla isn't; they list both as Acrobat Reader. I have the program, which comes with a plugin. Ok. I stand corrected. Sorry. I vaguely remember now that Adobe itself has Reader within it. You are right that Mozilla should fix that. What version of Java do you have? You need the last version of Java 7 or the latest of Java 8 and you need to set the security slider appropriately and then it won't be blocked as unsafe. Java was just updated last week by Oracle. Java 7 goes unsupported in April so unless you have Java only for speed tests (like me) I would recommend you install the latest version of Java 8. Most Java speed tests will not work on Java 8. Complicated answer to a simple question: in the terms you describe, I have v. 11.25.2.18. But at about:addons, it's listed as Java(TM) Platform SE 8 U25 11.25.2.18, which is activated, and Java Deployment Toolkit 8.0.250.18 11.25.2.18, which is blocked as unsafe. Java Runtime EnvironmentNPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) DeployUp to Date 10.75.2.13 Up to Date Java Runtime EnvironmentNext Generation Java Plug-in 10.75.2 for Mozilla browsersUp to Date 10.75.2.13 Don't understand how your 10.75.2.13 and my 11.25.2.18 can both be up to date. The reason is simple. See where yours says Java(TM) Platform SE 8.? That's because you have Java version 8xxx. I have Java version 7xxx. 7 is supported through April 2015. After that I will have to get Java 8 and hope that by then Java speed tests will be updated to use Java 8 which almost none can at present. The toolkit is questionable/unsafe at any version. SeaMonkey Addons Manager notes this and says to use it with caution. Perhaps, Java 8 gets harsher treatment and Mozilla plugin check shows it as unsafe. Or it could be I vaguely recall sometime ago users could unblock a plugin blocked by Mozilla. Maybe I unblocked it a long time ago...not sure. It's too late here for me to go look up the Mozilla page about this. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
Desiree wrote: On 1/26/2015 11:23 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Lee wrote: On 1/27/15, Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote: Lately the Mozilla plugin check has been confused and confusing: some plugins that are up to date according to their publishers are listed as out of date, and others are suddenly unknown. What gives? Did Mozilla suddenly abandon this and quit managing it? It's a non-trivial task keeping the list updated but your first example shows they are keeping it current. Examples: Adobe Shockwave Flash 16.0.0.287 is listed as potentially vulnerable and I'm advised to update, but this is the current version. Just checking if you've got the latest version available for download isn't good enuf :( It's all a user can do, ain't it? -- At least a user who's unwilling to let software update itself automatically without asking. But thanks for the heads-up. http://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-01.html Users who have enabled auto-update for the Flash Player desktop runtime will be receiving version 16.0.0.296 Adobe expects to have an update available for manual download during the week of January 26 OK, let's see when the week of January 26 begins at Adobe. Adobe Acrobat 10.X (in my case, 10.1.13.16) has been listed as out of date for years, but there are no updates available (unless I want to shell out hundreds of dollars for a version upgrade -- any reason to do that?). Adobe security bulletins are at http://helpx.adobe.com/security.html OK, thanks. The famous Java Runtime Environment is suddenly up to date and green although it's blocked as unsafe. Hunh? JRE has had a pretty bad security record lately. The latest version probably is unsafe. Yep, I know from about:addons. So why's it up to date and green here? Not the same treatment as for Flash, which is also vulnerable but not updateable. All these are unknown: Windows Activation Technologies (v. 7.1.7600.16395) VLC Web Plugin v. 2.1.3.0 as discussed here at length Adobe Shockwave for Director v. 12.1.6.156 Microsoft Office 2010 v.14.0.4730.1010 Windows Live Photo Gallery v. 15.4.3538.513 The last two have been unknown for years but the other three are new additions to the list. uhmm... seems to me that if they're new additions then clearly mozilla hasn't abandoned the plugin check. Really? Shockwave for Director is suddenly unknown after all these years? Did something break between here and Adobe? Doesn't look to me like they're maintaining it if the Office 2010 and Windows Live Photo Gallery plugins have been unknown for three years. I updated Flash on Saturday to 296 a few moments after Adobe announced the new version. Here's where you should be updating Flash: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html For IE 10 and 11 you go here (if Microsoft wakes up and patches): https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/2755801 Thanks for those links. I had something similar bookmarked that I used for years, but they started giving 404s a while back. I don't know why Adobe prefers updating to be so convoluted. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Youtube and v.2.32 - Solved
Keith N. McKenna wrote: EE wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 1/25/2015 3:29 PM, Brian Mailman wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Brian Mailman wrote: snip Actually, WFM is not an acronym, but just an abbreviation. An acronym is a special type of abbreviation that is pronounced like a word. RAM would be an example of an acronym. Actually WFM can be considered an acronym Merriam-Webster's dictionary as it is formed from the initial letters of the component words. See the full definition here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/acronym. Regards Keith There is another definition here: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/acronym ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bug 1122697 - Warning dialog when opening many tabs is broken
On 27/01/2015 17:50, Daniel wrote: So why am I not getting a warning?? I was going to ask if it might be a 32bit/64bit thing, but Sean is also on 64bit, so his peppermint OS 64 works but my Mageia 64 doesn't!! (Yes, I'm on Win7 tonight.) What is your setting for browser.tabs.maxOpenBeforeWarn ? The default is 15. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
Daniel wrote: On 27/01/2015 2:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Snip Twice nothing is still nothing, so is three or four times nothing. If a 2 KB message becomes an 8 KB message or even an 80 KB message, so what? It's not like you're cutting down an extra forest to make the paper. Thirty years ago, when a 20 MB HDD and a 4.77 MHz CPU was top of the line, maybe it mattered. Today, that's a wristwatch. So you might think, but, just as there are those that are not on ADSL/Cable connections yet, so there are those (pick me) with very limited e-mail accounts (e.g. 500KB) and if everyone had the same arrogant attitude that you seem to have, it would be costing (unemployed) money each day!! This isn't arrogance; I don't think I'm better than you. Reality is that dialup accounts are very rare nowadays in the first world, and so are 500 KB limits. Designing for such criteria unnecessarily hamstrings the majority who routinely download 500 KB in less than a second and multi-gigabyte movies in under an hour. I hope things turn around for you soon and you get a modern connection that serves your needs better. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey loops on log-ins
On 1/27/2015 4:38 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ivan Berger wrote: When I've used the SeaMonkey browser to log into various sites, it's been opening Internet Explorer, my default browser, to the same log-in page, and I could log in there. Then I made SM my default browser--now, when I enter my log-in name and password, that same log-in page opens in a new tab but nothing else happens. I'm running V2.32 under Win 7 x64. Looping on login is usually due to a failure to accept a site's cookies. Most webmasters assume all users accept all cookies all the time and don't bother to check or tell us what's wrong. Do Tools | Cookie Manager and make sure the setting isn't Block all cookies from this site. If not, double-check by doing Tools | Cookie Manager | Manage Stored Cookies and confirming that you do have cookies from the site in question. If the setting IS Block all cookies from this site, it should be possible to simply click the preferred setting, but for the past few years that hasn't worked for me (SM ignores my choice). In that case, do Tools | Cookie Manager | Manage Stored Cookies, right-click the domain name on the left, and choose Forget about this domain. Then the next time you visit (e.g., when you reload), SM will apply your default cookie policy from Edit | Preferences | Privacy Security | Cookies. (Of course, if your default policy is to reject all cookies, that won't help -- then you do have to set a special policy for the domain) In SeaMonkey, you cannot reach Cookie Manager from the Tools menu. On the menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. Then on left side of the Preferences window, select [Privacy Security Cookies]. There, you can set general rules for accepting or rejecting cookies. For the cookie rule for specific Web sites, select [Tools Data Manager] on the menu bar. Ignore the request (if any) for your master password. On the left side of the Data Manager window, you will see All data types in a selection list. Select the button on the right with the down-pointing triangle and then select Permissions (not Cookies). Then in the Domain list, select the domain for the Web site. In the larger area under the Permissions tab, a cookies rule for the site will appear under the heading Set Cookies; at the far right of that area will be radio buttons showing the site's cookie rule (Allow, Allow for Session, or Block). Frankly, I much preferred the old Cookie Manager. I can still get it via the PrefBar extension. -- David E. Ross I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can be used when autocomplete=off. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey loops on log-ins
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/27/2015 4:38 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ivan Berger wrote: When I've used the SeaMonkey browser to log into various sites, it's been opening Internet Explorer, my default browser, to the same log-in page, and I could log in there. Then I made SM my default browser--now, when I enter my log-in name and password, that same log-in page opens in a new tab but nothing else happens. I'm running V2.32 under Win 7 x64. Looping on login is usually due to a failure to accept a site's cookies. Most webmasters assume all users accept all cookies all the time and don't bother to check or tell us what's wrong. Do Tools | Cookie Manager and make sure the setting isn't Block all cookies from this site. If not, double-check by doing Tools | Cookie Manager | Manage Stored Cookies and confirming that you do have cookies from the site in question. If the setting IS Block all cookies from this site, it should be possible to simply click the preferred setting, but for the past few years that hasn't worked for me (SM ignores my choice). In that case, do Tools | Cookie Manager | Manage Stored Cookies, right-click the domain name on the left, and choose Forget about this domain. Then the next time you visit (e.g., when you reload), SM will apply your default cookie policy from Edit | Preferences | Privacy Security | Cookies. (Of course, if your default policy is to reject all cookies, that won't help -- then you do have to set a special policy for the domain) In SeaMonkey, you cannot reach Cookie Manager from the Tools menu. Don't know what version you're using, but I've been able to do it for years and I still can in v. 2.32. On the menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. Then on left side of the Preferences window, select [Privacy Security Cookies]. There, you can set general rules for accepting or rejecting cookies. Yes, this is what I said, but it's a different thing from the Cookie Manager. Here you set your policies; the CM only implements them and lets you see what it's up to. For the cookie rule for specific Web sites, select [Tools Data Manager] on the menu bar. Ignore the request (if any) for your master password. On the left side of the Data Manager window, you will see All data types in a selection list. Select the button on the right with the down-pointing triangle and then select Permissions (not Cookies). Then in the Domain list, select the domain for the Web site. In the larger area under the Permissions tab, a cookies rule for the site will appear under the heading Set Cookies; at the far right of that area will be radio buttons showing the site's cookie rule (Allow, Allow for Session, or Block). All this rigmarole can be bypassed by choosing Tools | Cookie Manager. Frankly, I much preferred the old Cookie Manager. I can still get it via the PrefBar extension. Or without it... -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
On 1/26/2015 5:43 AM, Daniel wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to disable automatic additions of and to plain text e-mails when I use SM's web browser's send this web page feature? Thank you in advance. :) Ant, *Note* that I have my e-mail and News set for Plain Text, so what I'm about to suggest may not do anything for you or your friends, but if I highlight the web address in the address bar and Copy/Paste into a (Plain Text) e-mail, it sure looks to be clickable to me, and no or . Which readers are you using? Mutt? Tin? Outlook? -- It is not enough to be busy, so are the ants. The question is: what are we busy about? --Henry David Thoreau /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
On 1/26/2015 8:15 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Lately the Mozilla plugin check has been confused and confusing: some plugins that are up to date according to their publishers are listed as out of date, and others are suddenly unknown. What gives? Did Mozilla suddenly abandon this and quit managing it? Examples: Adobe Shockwave Flash 16.0.0.287 is listed as potentially vulnerable and I'm advised to update, but this is the current version. Adobe Acrobat 10.X (in my case, 10.1.13.16) has been listed as out of date for years, but there are no updates available (unless I want to shell out hundreds of dollars for a version upgrade -- any reason to do that?). The famous Java Runtime Environment is suddenly up to date and green although it's blocked as unsafe. Hunh? All these are unknown: Windows Activation Technologies (v. 7.1.7600.16395) VLC Web Plugin v. 2.1.3.0 as discussed here at length Adobe Shockwave for Director v. 12.1.6.156 Microsoft Office 2010 v.14.0.4730.1010 Windows Live Photo Gallery v. 15.4.3538.513 The last two have been unknown for years but the other three are new additions to the list. Mozilla is correct. Current version since Saturday Jan 24 is 296 for Flash. That is for all browsers except Chrome and IE 10 and 11. It's being updated in Chrome now. Microsoft is still asleep and has not issued an up for embedded Flash on IE 10 and 11.. I got 296 last Saturday for SeaMonkey, Firefox and PaleMoon. I update Flash manually and Adobe did not put it on their websites for manual update until late on Saturday but Adobe updated Flash early Saturday morning for everyone that has Flash set to autoupdate. That is how serious this latest zero day exploit was as it is almost unheard of Adobe to issue an update on a weekend and immediately update everyone on auto update as auto upate can usually take up to 7 days to update. I had to disable Flash in IE 10 and 11 since Microsoft has slept through the whole zero day thing. I haven't used Acrobat Reader in years but it's free. As for Adobe Acrobat it's not a plugin but a program. What version of Java do you have? You need the last version of Java 7 or the latest of Java 8 and you need to set the security slider appropriately and then it won't be blocked as unsafe. Java was just updated last week by Oracle. Java 7 goes unsupported in April so unless you have Java only for speed tests (like me) I would recommend you install the latest version of Java 8. Most Java speed tests will not work on Java 8. SeaMonkey 2.32: Adobe Flash PlayerShockwave Flash 16.0 r0 Up to Date 16.0.0.296 Up to Date Java Runtime EnvironmentNPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) Deploy Up to Date 10.75.2.13 Up to Date Java Runtime EnvironmentNext Generation Java Plug-in 10.75.2 for Mozilla browsers Up to Date 10.75.2.13 Up to Date Silverlight Plug-In5.1.30514.0 Up to Date 5.1.30514.0 Up to Date ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
Desiree wrote: Mozilla is correct. Current version since Saturday Jan 24 is 296 for Flash. That is for all browsers except Chrome and IE 10 and 11. It's being updated in Chrome now. Microsoft is still asleep and has not issued an up for embedded Flash on IE 10 and 11.. I got 296 last Saturday for SeaMonkey, Firefox and PaleMoon. I update Flash manually and Adobe did not put it on their websites for manual update until late on Saturday but Adobe updated Flash early Saturday morning for everyone that has Flash set to autoupdate. That is how serious this latest zero day exploit was as it is almost unheard of Adobe to issue an update on a weekend and immediately update everyone on auto update as auto upate can usually take up to 7 days to update. I had to disable Flash in IE 10 and 11 since Microsoft has slept through the whole zero day thing. Who knew? I only found out about this last night; Adobe doesn't tell me this stuff and I don't live at the relevant fora. 296 is available this morning, so I'll install it as soon as I post this. I haven't used Acrobat Reader in years but it's free. As for Adobe Acrobat it's not a plugin but a program. I'm well aware of the difference, but Mozilla isn't; they list both as Acrobat Reader. I have the program, which comes with a plugin. What version of Java do you have? You need the last version of Java 7 or the latest of Java 8 and you need to set the security slider appropriately and then it won't be blocked as unsafe. Java was just updated last week by Oracle. Java 7 goes unsupported in April so unless you have Java only for speed tests (like me) I would recommend you install the latest version of Java 8. Most Java speed tests will not work on Java 8. Complicated answer to a simple question: in the terms you describe, I have v. 11.25.2.18. But at about:addons, it's listed as Java(TM) Platform SE 8 U25 11.25.2.18, which is activated, and Java Deployment Toolkit 8.0.250.18 11.25.2.18, which is blocked as unsafe. Java Runtime EnvironmentNPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) DeployUp to Date 10.75.2.13 Up to Date Java Runtime EnvironmentNext Generation Java Plug-in 10.75.2 for Mozilla browsersUp to Date 10.75.2.13 Don't understand how your 10.75.2.13 and my 11.25.2.18 can both be up to date. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
Desiree wrote: I haven't used Acrobat Reader in years but it's free. As for Adobe Acrobat it's not a plugin but a program. Haven't installed either in years. Used Foxit until recent problem with plugin caused in-browser display to be blank. Switch to Nitro...light and works. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: allowing flash player
Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: Gerd Schweizer wrote: In Germany the tv organizations offer cinemas in the internet till one week after sending. But they need the flash player. How can i tell seamonkey to allow the actual flash player? It's alreaday installed. What makes you think it's not allowed? Flash works fine here, has for years. A discussion here some time ago. Some sites deny the access with the text my flash player wouldn't be actual. After installing the actual version (ends with already installed) the same result. Flashblock i don't know, also i don't use whitelists. -- Liebe Grüße, Gerd Satelliten FAQ, DVB-T, Katzen, Mopped, Garten, Heimwerken: http://www.satgerd.de/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
Ed Mullen wrote: Desiree wrote on 1/27/2015 7:35 PM: On 1/27/2015 5:47 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Desiree wrote: I haven't used Acrobat Reader in years but it's free. As for Adobe Acrobat it's not a plugin but a program. Haven't installed either in years. Used Foxit until recent problem with plugin caused in-browser display to be blank. Switch to Nitro...light and works. Yes, Nitro is good. Foxit used to be good but not in awhile. I use Evince which is the Linux PDF reader used in most versions of Linux. There is a version ported to Windows. It doesn't have a bunch of bells and whistles added but as a PDF reader it works fine even on Windows 8. I do wish SeaMonkey had Fx and PaleMoon built in PDF reader. The builtins and Evince don't often support fill-in forms which unfortunately the gov loves to employ. I'm not having any trouble with Foxit here. ver 7.0.6.1126 However, I have my system set to NOT display PDFs within a browser, rather external in Foxit. I also have Nitro Pro for creating and editing PDFs. Not something I need to do often but, when I need to, I need to. If you use PayPal's Shipit and USPS's Clip'n Ship type services where labels and documents are generated on the fly you need to have the pdf displayed within the browser... Foxit worked fine for many years, it stopped about 6 months ago. Maybe they have since fix it, but I need a solution sooner so switched. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin check confusion
Desiree wrote on 1/27/2015 7:35 PM: On 1/27/2015 5:47 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Desiree wrote: I haven't used Acrobat Reader in years but it's free. As for Adobe Acrobat it's not a plugin but a program. Haven't installed either in years. Used Foxit until recent problem with plugin caused in-browser display to be blank. Switch to Nitro...light and works. Yes, Nitro is good. Foxit used to be good but not in awhile. I use Evince which is the Linux PDF reader used in most versions of Linux. There is a version ported to Windows. It doesn't have a bunch of bells and whistles added but as a PDF reader it works fine even on Windows 8. I do wish SeaMonkey had Fx and PaleMoon built in PDF reader. I'm not having any trouble with Foxit here. ver 7.0.6.1126 However, I have my system set to NOT display PDFs within a browser, rather external in Foxit. I also have Nitro Pro for creating and editing PDFs. Not something I need to do often but, when I need to, I need to. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Why isn't the word phonetic spelled the way it sounds? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
