Re: Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[Bret Busby]

On 18/12/2015, WaltS48  wrote:
> On 12/18/2015 03:52 AM, Daniel wrote:
>> On 18/12/2015 4:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I am using Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .
>>>
>>> The only menu option that appears for SeaMonkey in this installation
>>> (on both of two separate computers), is "Mozilla build of Seamonkey".
>>>
>>> In previously used SeaMonkey  (2.2x) on Debian 6, three separate menu
>>> options were displayed in the menu (Applications -> Internet);
>>> something like "Seamonkey Compose New Message", Seamonkey Mail and
>>> NewsGroups", and, Seamonkey web browser", which allowed a user to
>>> access the new message composer, or, the Mail and News Groups
>>> component (to examine previously sent messages, and, for other uses),
>>> or, the web browser component, without having to load the web browser
>>> component (thence restoring the last previous saved session, if the
>>> web browser component is configured to restart with the last session).
>>>
>>> I do not know whether the developers read the messages on this list,
>>> but I am wondering whether it would be possible to restore the
>>> functionality, of having those three separate menu options, so that a
>>> user like me, can chose to simply open the Compose New Message
>>> component, without having to reload the last session of the web
>>> browser.
>>>
>>> Thank you in anticipation.
>>>
>> Bret, I'm using my Win7 SeaMonkey tonight, and have never seen "the menu
>> (Applications -> Internet)", so can only assume that is a UbuntuMate
>> modification.
>>
>> However, in my installation, under "Window", I see that I can open and
>> change to any of five windows (Browser, Mail & News, Composer,
>> Addressbook and IRC). Do you not see this, or is this not what you are
>> referring to?? Maybe Ubuntu has modified SeaMonkey!
>>
>
> I think the question is could the SeaMonkey developers fix SeaMonkey so
> his operating systems Application launcher shows the three items under
> the Internet heading like it did in Debian.
>
> AIUI Ubuntu doesn't even offer SeaMonkey anymore.
>
> Users that want it for Ubuntu have to add a 3rd party repository called
> Ubuntuzilla.
>
> UbuntuUpdates - PPA: Ubuntuzilla -
> 
>
> Or install from The SeaMonkey® Project -
>  which AFAIK doesn't add the
> functionality. I don't see the items in my Application > Internet Menu.
>
> I thought I had SM installed through my software manager, but it appears
> I don't. IIRC when I did have it installed from a repo there were menu
> items for launching the browser or mail, but not just the compose window.
>

I am thinking now, that I may have been mistaken - I think that the
three separate menu entries to which I refer, were for the iceape
suite, which was a Debian version of Seamonkey, which was similar to,
but not exactly the same as, Seamonkey.

The next time that I do a system update (as the currently outstanding
update, involves a kernel update, which requires a system reboot, and
the reboot, with restoring browser sessions, takes a couple or a few
hours, so, gets deferred until it is less inconvenient), I need to
remember to examine the installations of Debian 6 and the previous
(10.04 and 12.04) installations of Ubuntu, to find whether I am
correct, in believing now, that it was in fact iceape, and, not
Seamonkey, that had the separate menu entries for the separate
components.

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Post Downloads

[OldGu]

Is it me or are only newsgroup post header all that is initially 
downloaded?  I see a big delay sometimes to see the post contents.


Is there a way to force downloading of the post contents when SeaMonkey 
is opened?   Or ???


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Re: Post Downloads

[WaltS48]

OldGu wrote:

Is it me or are only newsgroup post header all that is initially
downloaded?  I see a big delay sometimes to see the post contents.

Is there a way to force downloading of the post contents when SeaMonkey
is opened?   Or ???



Post headers are all that is initially downloaded for newsgroup posts.

To download the contents, select the account, click 'View settings for 
this account', click 'Synchronization and Storage', click 'Select 
newsgroups for offline use...', expand the account name and select the 
groups you are interested in from the list.


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Re: SM 2.39 Data Manager

[EE]

xxyyz wrote:

On 2015-12-18 3:44 PM, EE wrote:

xxyyz wrote:

In SM 2.39, Data Manager seems to be broken - all entries are
duplicated, and cookie manager (chrome://communicator/content/
permissions/cookieViewer.xul) doesn't work.

For example:
mozdev.org  downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
 downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
mozilla.org addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow
 addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow

No problems in SM 2.38.

Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong?


The SM cookie manager still works for me, though the site permission
list has all but one site listing duplicated.  I had to switch cookie
managers, though, from CS Lite to Cookie Monster, because I was not
able to set the cookie exceptions in CS Lite the way I want any more.


I only use the SM cookie manager; in SM 2.39, adding a new site to
the set of "website can set session cookies" does not allow the site
to set cookies.  In SM 2.38 and earlier, the new site is allowed to
set cookies.  Note that site permissions that were carried over from
the previous SM version still seem to work.
Surely the fact that the entries are duplicated indicates the Data
Manager is broken?


I tested Cookie Monster and it is able to set cookie permissions.  That 
is fine for me.  I did have to patch it to have it display the cookies 
that I have, and to enable it to remove unwanted cookies.


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Re: Profile Icon

[WaltS48]

On 12/19/2015 10:24 AM, OldGuy wrote:

So now I have two profiles but have to start SeaMonkey and go thru
manually switching profiles.
Someone suggested having two Mail icons, one for each profile.

How do I create these icons?
Is there some command line switch that selects the profile name?



Sigh, the proofreader was afk.

Those should be ~/seamonkey -mail -p (profile a) and ~/seamonkey -mail 
-p (profile b)


Here is a list of command line arguments you can use with SeaMonkey.




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Re: Request for restoration of feature - separate components menu items

[WaltS48]

Bret Busby wrote:

On 18/12/2015, WaltS48  wrote:

On 12/18/2015 03:52 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 18/12/2015 4:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am using Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE 15.10 .

The only menu option that appears for SeaMonkey in this installation
(on both of two separate computers), is "Mozilla build of Seamonkey".

In previously used SeaMonkey  (2.2x) on Debian 6, three separate menu
options were displayed in the menu (Applications -> Internet);
something like "Seamonkey Compose New Message", Seamonkey Mail and
NewsGroups", and, Seamonkey web browser", which allowed a user to
access the new message composer, or, the Mail and News Groups
component (to examine previously sent messages, and, for other uses),
or, the web browser component, without having to load the web browser
component (thence restoring the last previous saved session, if the
web browser component is configured to restart with the last session).

I do not know whether the developers read the messages on this list,
but I am wondering whether it would be possible to restore the
functionality, of having those three separate menu options, so that a
user like me, can chose to simply open the Compose New Message
component, without having to reload the last session of the web
browser.

Thank you in anticipation.


Bret, I'm using my Win7 SeaMonkey tonight, and have never seen "the menu
(Applications -> Internet)", so can only assume that is a UbuntuMate
modification.

However, in my installation, under "Window", I see that I can open and
change to any of five windows (Browser, Mail & News, Composer,
Addressbook and IRC). Do you not see this, or is this not what you are
referring to?? Maybe Ubuntu has modified SeaMonkey!



I think the question is could the SeaMonkey developers fix SeaMonkey so
his operating systems Application launcher shows the three items under
the Internet heading like it did in Debian.

AIUI Ubuntu doesn't even offer SeaMonkey anymore.

Users that want it for Ubuntu have to add a 3rd party repository called
Ubuntuzilla.

UbuntuUpdates - PPA: Ubuntuzilla -


Or install from The SeaMonkey® Project -
 which AFAIK doesn't add the
functionality. I don't see the items in my Application > Internet Menu.

I thought I had SM installed through my software manager, but it appears
I don't. IIRC when I did have it installed from a repo there were menu
items for launching the browser or mail, but not just the compose window.



I am thinking now, that I may have been mistaken - I think that the
three separate menu entries to which I refer, were for the iceape
suite, which was a Debian version of Seamonkey, which was similar to,
but not exactly the same as, Seamonkey.



FWIW I just installed the Ubuntuzilla PPA and SeaMonkey from it.

I only see Mozilla Build of SeaMonkey in my Applications > Internet menu


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Re: Profile Icon

[WaltS48]

On 12/19/2015 10:24 AM, OldGuy wrote:

So now I have two profiles but have to start SeaMonkey and go thru
manually switching profiles.
Someone suggested having two Mail icons, one for each profile.

How do I create these icons?
Is there some command line switch that selects the profile name?



Sorry, I forget what operating system you use.

For my Linux I would create two desktop launchers with the command to 
open SeaMonkey with the -mail and -p switches and the profile name.


~/seamonkey - mail-p (profile a)

~/seamonkey - mail -p (profile b)

without the ()

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Re: SM 2.39 Data Manager

[xxyyz]

On 2015-12-19 7:47 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

It's a known issue. The entries are really different because they have different
schemes eg. usually http and https. Data Manager needs to change and display it
all. Check Bug 1188348 for further progress.

Thank you for the info.  I will keep using 2.38 until this is fixed
(especially Cookie Manager).


On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 00:15:52 -0500, xxyyz wrote:


In SM 2.39, Data Manager seems to be broken - all entries are
duplicated, and cookie manager (chrome://communicator/content/
permissions/cookieViewer.xul) doesn't work.

For example:
mozdev.org  downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
 downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
mozilla.org addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow
 addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow

No problems in SM 2.38.

Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong?



  Regards
  Frank-Rainer Grahl




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Re: Wrap text to fit window question.

[WaltS48]

Frog wrote:

I have searched and searched for a way to make messages automatically
wrap to 72 characters.  This seems to be happening more when I am
preparing a new message or when printing a message.  I have gone through
the Preferences (Mail and Newsgroups) area and they are all set
appropriately.  What am I missing?



Well, the setting for Mail & Newsgroups > Composition is for plain text 
messages. The same for Display.


So you should be good if you are only composing plain text messages.

I don't see any setting to set word wrap for HTML composition.



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seamonkey UI

[Paul Gheno]

Hello Dear seamonkey support reader,

I've downloaded seamonkey for a while now, using it everyday.
One of the big issue I encounter is the UI itself.

-Top menu buttons are not efficient, not really intuitive
-tabs cannot be closed in a simple way
-seamonkey "modules" like IRC Chat, Email, etc ... are hidden. This
features should appear in a usefull and easy way

The last but not the least :
The interface looks pretty "old".

What do U think about ?


I'm Paul, French, 31 years old.
I work for a Internet acces provider in a network deployment team.
I'm used to draw UI for web using photoshop or InDesign.
I'm not a professional, this is not my main job, but I have many ideas.

I would like to share with you. Drawing something usefull, help
implementing/testing.

My question is : how to ?


Thank you for reading.

Paul GHENO
paulgh...@free.fr
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Re: Wrap text to fit window question.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:


Frog wrote:

I have searched and searched for a way to make messages automatically
wrap to 72 characters.  This seems to be happening more when I am
preparing a new message or when printing a message.  I have gone through
the Preferences (Mail and Newsgroups) area and they are all set
appropriately.  What am I missing?



Well, the setting for Mail & Newsgroups > Composition is for plain text
messages. The same for Display.

So you should be good if you are only composing plain text messages.

I don't see any setting to set word wrap for HTML composition.


As a rough workaround, you could create a 1x1 table with no borders or 
margins and put the whole message in there. Then you could control the 
wrap by specifying the column width...


Otherwise, the HTML content will fit to the recipient's window, right?

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Re: SM 2.39 Data Manager

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

It's a known issue. The entries are really different because they have 
different 
schemes eg. usually http and https. Data Manager needs to change and display it 
all. Check Bug 1188348 for further progress.

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 00:15:52 -0500, xxyyz wrote:

>>In SM 2.39, Data Manager seems to be broken - all entries are
>>duplicated, and cookie manager (chrome://communicator/content/
>>permissions/cookieViewer.xul) doesn't work.
>>
>>For example:
>>mozdev.org  downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
>> downloads.mozdev.org  Install Add-onsx Allow
>>mozilla.org addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow
>> addons.mozilla.orgInstall Add-onsx Allow
>>
>>No problems in SM 2.38.
>>
>>Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong?


 Regards
 Frank-Rainer Grahl


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Wrap text to fit window question.

[Frog]

I have searched and searched for a way to make messages automatically 
wrap to 72 characters.  This seems to be happening more when I am 
preparing a new message or when printing a message.  I have gone through 
the Preferences (Mail and Newsgroups) area and they are all set 
appropriately.  What am I missing?

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Profile Icon

[OldGuy]

So now I have two profiles but have to start SeaMonkey and go thru 
manually switching profiles.

Someone suggested having two Mail icons, one for each profile.

How do I create these icons?
Is there some command line switch that selects the profile name?
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