Re: Gmail not permitted?
tokyoprogress...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for these answers. Did not realize we can post from Google Groups to MAILMAN (how did you do that. My account names are different too). I will have to try that...setting gmail to accept a less secure client. BTW, I just got spam addressed to be quoting my message, even though my full address does bot show up here How did they figure that out? Not sure which address you mean, but they're both clearly visible to me. There's one in the domain , and one in the domain . I won't help the spambots by quoting them in full, but you might consider munging your address as I and many others do when posting to newsgroups. A human can take one look at my munged address and see how to convert it to the correct one, but a spambot just copies it mindlessly and gets a bounce. Alternately, you could use a so-called "burner email" -- one that you'll discard as soon as the spambots catch on. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail not permitted?
Thank you for these answers. Did not realize we can post from Google Groups to MAILMAN (how did you do that. My account names are different too). I will have to try that...settimg gmail to accept a less secure client. BTW, I just got spam addressed to be quoting my message, even though my full address does bot show up here How did they figure that out? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New SeaMonkey v2.40 Nightly Builds available
On 3/10/16, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) <"."> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:38:50 -0500, Lee wrote: > >>On 3/10/16, Ant wrote: >>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/03/10/new-seamonkey-nightly-builds-available/ >> >>Yay! And many thanks to Adrian Kalla for putting up the new builds. >>But I still don't understand the difference between aurora, central, >>beta & release builds :(Can anyone say which build, if any, has >>all of the corresponding security fixes that went into the just >>released Firefox 45.0? >> >>Thanks >>Lee > > The closest thing will be in > https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/ > > Presently 2.42. Thanks, but I'm looking for something like https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/ My question is if it's safe [for some definition of "safe"] to go back to using SM as my primary web browser or no? Thanks, Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Installing Seamonkey in Debian Jessie (stable)
i give up on compiling for now. The unofficial contributed version is working on my machine: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#contrib 2016-03-09 16:50 GMT+01:00 Matthias Mueller : > Hi, > > i am relatively new to linux and trying to get Seamonkey to work. There is > no package in the Debian Repositories. > > I have tried to unpack and start Seamonkey this way: " > http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall";. > Unpacked inside my homefolder "~/seamonkey". > > > I get this Error Message: > > user@Desktop:~/seamonkey$ ./seamonkey > XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/user/seamonkey2/seamonkey/libxul.so: > libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > Couldn't load XPCOM. > > > I also get errors when i am trying to compile it myself: > http://pastebin.com/8NpkP0RF > ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Corrupted Folder?
Daniel wrote: On 10/03/2016 6:04 AM, EE wrote: Daniel wrote: On 9/03/2016 9:16 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote: I have an Archives folder under one of my mail accounts with several sub-folders. Recently when I tried to move a message from a news inbox to one of the sub-folders I got an endless wait icon over the sub-folder. I now can't see the list of messages in the sub-folder as I get the endless wait icon whenever I try to open the folder. I suppose the failed moving of that last message somehow corrupted the folder. Is there any way to retrieve the contents of that folder? Cecil, if you're really desperate you should be able to open the folder in a plain text reader (with SeaMonkey closed!!) such as Notepad or wordpad. The file you are after is the one without the .msf suffix, e.g. if there are a pair of files called test and test.msf, the one that might still contain your message is the test file. Opps!! Wait!! Just noticed that you mentioned "a news inbox"! Normally, news articals, as I understand it, are not downloaded as such to your computer, they are just stored in your cache, so if you are trying to download and save a news post, you may be downloading everything from the news server!! If you archive messages, they are saved. The archive folder may be corrupted, however, so backup the profile first and then see if that folder can be repaired. If not, you may have to resort to this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recover_messages_from_a_corrupt_folder ... and just now, as I read your response, I remembered that all my posts (such as this) to news groups are saved in folders, so maybe it is these that the OP was having problems with. Still, Cecil has responded that his system seems to be working properly today!! I suspect the problem was not corruption of the folder but only an extremely slow process of copying the news message to the archive sub-folder. I generally drag messages from the inbox list to the appropriate archive sub-folder. The process is instant for mail messages but apparently prolonged for news messages. I think in the past I have archived news messages without that excessive delay. Would a copy/paste operation perhaps work better than dragging the message? -- C. Bankston ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Corrupted Folder?
Daniel wrote: On 10/03/2016 1:43 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote: Daniel wrote: Thanks for the reply. This morning the sub-folder opens normally. Even the news message that seemed to precipitate the problem is in there. Computers can do some strange things. Could be worthwhile doing a File->Compact on that folder/account, just to be safe! I would BACKUP that "folder" file first. Once you compact the file is rewritten and if something is lost, it is now *really* lost! I would CYA and simply drag copies to a backup location... -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail not permitted?
tokyoprogresss...@mailbox.org wrote: Hi I thought I sent this yesterday but it seems not to have gone through. I tried to enter my gmail data but got a message gmail telling me they blocked the attempt to retrieve email from this application because it was not an up-to-date one. I have the most recent Mac copy of SM, so I want to confirm if, in fact, gmail does not play ball with Sea Monkey, if there may be another reason for that message, or what. If true, and since I want to get away from OSX Mail due to its own bugs in getting duplicates of gmail messages, it seems I may be forced to have gmail forward new mail to my mailbox.org account. Your advice welcomed. "Hard to say..." ;-) Can't speak for the Mac side, but I've been using various PC versions of SM for years to retrieve Gmail without difficulty or complaint from Google. Gmail does have a setting (accessible through their webmail) to enable POP mail downloads, but if you haven't forgotten to do that, you should have no problem. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Understanding mail folders and mbox format
Richard Owlett wrote: In a recent thread ["Corrupted Folder?"] a _MozillaZine Knowledge Base_ article was referenced. I would recommend anyone needing to understand mbox format to begin with "Recover messages from a corrupt folder" [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recover_messages_from_a_corrupt_folder]. I wish I had seen that article when exploring the feasibility of retrieving individual email referencing one of my projects. Though targeting mail recovery it is an excellent survey with links to more detailed information. A cursory websearch indicates that http://kb.mozillazine.org has over 200 articles discussing email formats. Since the mbox format is just one big text file, I have fixed and removed messages from corrupted accounts with simple perl scripts. For example sometimes folks delete messages and since they have not *compress* them a simple script to change the status flags on each message with a regexp can "undelete" them. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Gmail not permitted?
tokyoprogresss...@mailbox.org wrote: Hi I thought I sent this yesterday but it seems not to have gone through. I tried to enter my gmail data but got a message gmail telling me they blocked the attempt to retrieve email from this application because it was not an up-to-date one. I have the most recent Mac copy of SM, so I want to confirm if, in fact, gmail does not play ball with Sea Monkey, if there may be another reason for that message, or what. If true, and since I want to get away from OSX Mail due to its own bugs in getting duplicates of gmail messages, it seems I may be forced to have gmail forward new mail to my mailbox.org account. Your advice welcomed. When setup SeaMonkey or Thunderbird to gmail you have to go to the webmail interface at gmail.com and in the settings change *enable "less secure applications"*. I think it is not about email client security but more that Google is pushing folks to use *their* Chrome and webmail interface. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Gmail not permitted?
Hi I thought I sent this yesterday but it seems not to have gone through. I tried to enter my gmail data but got a message gmail telling me they blocked the attempt to retrieve email from this application because it was not an up-to-date one. I have the most recent Mac copy of SM, so I want to confirm if, in fact, gmail does not play ball with Sea Monkey, if there may be another reason for that message, or what. If true, and since I want to get away from OSX Mail due to its own bugs in getting duplicates of gmail messages, it seems I may be forced to have gmail forward new mail to my mailbox.org account. Your advice welcomed. paul in japan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: New SeaMonkey v2.40 Nightly Builds available
On 3/10/16, Ant wrote: > https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/03/10/new-seamonkey-nightly-builds-available/ Yay! And many thanks to Adrian Kalla for putting up the new builds. But I still don't understand the difference between aurora, central, beta & release builds :(Can anyone say which build, if any, has all of the corresponding security fixes that went into the just released Firefox 45.0? Thanks Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Understanding mail folders and mbox format
In a recent thread ["Corrupted Folder?"] a _MozillaZine Knowledge Base_ article was referenced. I would recommend anyone needing to understand mbox format to begin with "Recover messages from a corrupt folder" [http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recover_messages_from_a_corrupt_folder]. I wish I had seen that article when exploring the feasibility of retrieving individual email referencing one of my projects. Though targeting mail recovery it is an excellent survey with links to more detailed information. A cursory websearch indicates that http://kb.mozillazine.org has over 200 articles discussing email formats. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Installing Seamonkey in Debian Jessie (stable)
its not working for debian http://pastebin.com/9EvZuLbU the same happens with the 32bit version http://pastebin.com/Hi6GkvES 2016-03-09 18:52 GMT+01:00 Bret Busby : > On 09/03/2016, Matthias Mueller wrote: > > Hi, > > > > i am relatively new to linux and trying to get Seamonkey to work. There > is > > no package in the Debian Repositories. > > > > Have you tried > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/s/seamonkey-mozilla-build/ > ? > > -- > > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > > .. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > > > ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
New SeaMonkey v2.40 Nightly Builds available
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/03/10/new-seamonkey-nightly-builds-available/ -- "I got an ant farm; them fellas didn't grow sh*t." --Mitch Hedberg Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Corrupted Folder?
On 10/03/2016 6:04 AM, EE wrote: Daniel wrote: On 9/03/2016 9:16 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote: I have an Archives folder under one of my mail accounts with several sub-folders. Recently when I tried to move a message from a news inbox to one of the sub-folders I got an endless wait icon over the sub-folder. I now can't see the list of messages in the sub-folder as I get the endless wait icon whenever I try to open the folder. I suppose the failed moving of that last message somehow corrupted the folder. Is there any way to retrieve the contents of that folder? Cecil, if you're really desperate you should be able to open the folder in a plain text reader (with SeaMonkey closed!!) such as Notepad or wordpad. The file you are after is the one without the .msf suffix, e.g. if there are a pair of files called test and test.msf, the one that might still contain your message is the test file. Opps!! Wait!! Just noticed that you mentioned "a news inbox"! Normally, news articals, as I understand it, are not downloaded as such to your computer, they are just stored in your cache, so if you are trying to download and save a news post, you may be downloading everything from the news server!! If you archive messages, they are saved. The archive folder may be corrupted, however, so backup the profile first and then see if that folder can be repaired. If not, you may have to resort to this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recover_messages_from_a_corrupt_folder ... and just now, as I read your response, I remembered that all my posts (such as this) to news groups are saved in folders, so maybe it is these that the OP was having problems with. Still, Cecil has responded that his system seems to be working properly today!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Corrupted Folder?
On 10/03/2016 1:43 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote: Daniel wrote: On 9/03/2016 9:16 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote: I have an Archives folder under one of my mail accounts with several sub-folders. Recently when I tried to move a message from a news inbox to one of the sub-folders I got an endless wait icon over the sub-folder. I now can't see the list of messages in the sub-folder as I get the endless wait icon whenever I try to open the folder. I suppose the failed moving of that last message somehow corrupted the folder. Is there any way to retrieve the contents of that folder? Cecil, if you're really desperate you should be able to open the folder in a plain text reader (with SeaMonkey closed!!) such as Notepad or wordpad. The file you are after is the one without the .msf suffix, e.g. if there are a pair of files called test and test.msf, the one that might still contain your message is the test file. Opps!! Wait!! Just noticed that you mentioned "a news inbox"! Normally, news articals, as I understand it, are not downloaded as such to your computer, they are just stored in your cache, so if you are trying to download and save a news post, you may be downloading everything from the news server!! Thanks for the reply. This morning the sub-folder opens normally. Even the news message that seemed to precipitate the problem is in there. Computers can do some strange things. Could be worthwhile doing a File->Compact on that folder/account, just to be safe! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
