Re: Is anyone having major CPU and RAM hogs on this facebook.com web page?

[Felix Miata]

Ant composed on 2016-10-26 22:53 (UTC-0700):


On 10/26/2016 9:04 PM, Felix Miata wrote:



I found my profile's places.sqlite was
over 60,000K. ~20,000K is the initial size. I compacted...



I opened my SM's
places.sqlite file copy, highlighted all, compressed, and exited. Its
file size went from 20 to 9.5 MB. I put this compressed file into my SM
profile and retested https://www.facebook.com/BlueManGroupFans, but it
still hogged my RAM and CPU. I even got a stop script or no message. :(


Compacting a file that's only the minimum/initial size to start with I would 
expect to produce little to no improvement.


What is your RAM size? What gfxchip is in your PC (Intel and certain others 
share main RAM.)?

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Re: Is anyone having major CPU and RAM hogs on this facebook.com web page?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ant wrote:


 hogs my CPU and RAM like crazy
in my four days old 32-bit SeaMonkey v2.40 and 64-bit W7 HPE SP1
installations. I never had this problem in SM in my very old, updated
Windows XP Pro SP3 box (same hardwares except its HDD replacement due to
a nasty click of death crash).

Thank you in advance. :)


This is one of those blogs that loads more content as you approach the 
bottom of the page. I tested it as far back as February 1, at which 
point SeaMonkey was taking up 2 GB of RAM according to Windows Task 
Manager. I then closed the page, opened a blank browser window, and 
cleared private data, which took SM back down to its usual 500 MB (I 
have a lot of old mail), and CPU usage fell back to 5%.


My computer has plenty of capacity for this, so it didn't slow down 
much, YMMV.


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Re: Is anyone having major CPU and RAM hogs on this facebook.com web page?

[Ant]

On 10/26/2016 9:04 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Ant composed on 2016-10-26 20:43 (UTC-0700):


Felix Miata wrote:



FB generally was causing me considerable CPU usage in 2.40 on Linux.
Upgrading to 2.46 didn't help. I found my profile's places.sqlite was
over 60,000K. ~20,000K is the initial size. I compacted places.sqlite
with the Sqlite Browser utility, and SM responsiveness improved a lot,
even though compaction only reduced filesize about 22%.



Is that utilty from http://sqlitebrowser.org/?


Not sure, but I suppose so:

# rpm -qi sqlitebrowser
Name: sqlitebrowser
Version : 3.7.0
Release : 4.3
Architecture: x86_64
Install Date: Tue Jul 19 15:56:50 2016
Group   : Productivity/Office/Organizers
Size: 3744039
License : GPL-3.0+ or MPL-2.0
Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Thu Oct  1 01:17:54 2015, Key ID b88b2fd43dbdc284
Source RPM  : sqlitebrowser-3.7.0-4.3.src.rpm
Build Date  : Thu Oct  1 01:16:46 2015
Build Host  : build30
Relocations : (not relocatable)
Packager: http://bugs.opensuse.org
Vendor  : openSUSE
URL : https://github.com/rp-/sqlitebrowser/
Summary : Create, design and edit SQLite Databases
Description :
SQLite Database Browser is a freeware, public domain, open source visual
tool
used to create, design and edit database files compatible with SQLite.
It is
meant to be used for users and developers that want to create databases,
edit
and search data using a familiar spreadsheet-like interface, without the
need
to learn complicated SQL commands. Controls and wizards are available
for users
to:

 * Create and compact database files
 * Create, define, modify and delete tables
 * Create, define and delete indexes
 * Browse, edit, add and delete records
 * Search records
 * Import and export records as text
 * Import and export tables from/to CSV files
 * Import and export databases from/to SQL dump files
 * Issue SQL queries and inspect the results
 * Examine a log of all SQL commands issued by the application
Distribution: openSUSE Leap 42.1
#


https://github.com/sqlitebrowser/sqlitebrowser says it is. :) So, I 
downloaded and extracted its portable version. I opened my SM's 
places.sqlite file copy, highlighted all, compressed, and exited. Its 
file size went from 20 to 9.5 MB. I put this compressed file into my SM 
profile and retested https://www.facebook.com/BlueManGroupFans, but it 
still hogged my RAM and CPU. I even got a stop script or no message. :(

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Re: Is anyone having major CPU and RAM hogs on this facebook.com web page?

[Felix Miata]

Ant composed on 2016-10-26 20:43 (UTC-0700):


Felix Miata wrote:



FB generally was causing me considerable CPU usage in 2.40 on Linux.
Upgrading to 2.46 didn't help. I found my profile's places.sqlite was
over 60,000K. ~20,000K is the initial size. I compacted places.sqlite
with the Sqlite Browser utility, and SM responsiveness improved a lot,
even though compaction only reduced filesize about 22%.



Is that utilty from http://sqlitebrowser.org/?


Not sure, but I suppose so:

# rpm -qi sqlitebrowser
Name: sqlitebrowser
Version : 3.7.0
Release : 4.3
Architecture: x86_64
Install Date: Tue Jul 19 15:56:50 2016
Group   : Productivity/Office/Organizers
Size: 3744039
License : GPL-3.0+ or MPL-2.0
Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Thu Oct  1 01:17:54 2015, Key ID b88b2fd43dbdc284
Source RPM  : sqlitebrowser-3.7.0-4.3.src.rpm
Build Date  : Thu Oct  1 01:16:46 2015
Build Host  : build30
Relocations : (not relocatable)
Packager: http://bugs.opensuse.org
Vendor  : openSUSE
URL : https://github.com/rp-/sqlitebrowser/
Summary : Create, design and edit SQLite Databases
Description :
SQLite Database Browser is a freeware, public domain, open source visual tool
used to create, design and edit database files compatible with SQLite. It is
meant to be used for users and developers that want to create databases, edit
and search data using a familiar spreadsheet-like interface, without the need
to learn complicated SQL commands. Controls and wizards are available for users
to:

* Create and compact database files
* Create, define, modify and delete tables
* Create, define and delete indexes
* Browse, edit, add and delete records
* Search records
* Import and export records as text
* Import and export tables from/to CSV files
* Import and export databases from/to SQL dump files
* Issue SQL queries and inspect the results
* Examine a log of all SQL commands issued by the application
Distribution: openSUSE Leap 42.1
#
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Re: Is anyone having major CPU and RAM hogs on this facebook.com web page?

[Ant]

On 10/26/2016 7:25 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Ant composed on 2016-10-26 19:09 (UTC-0700):


https://www.facebook.com/BlueManGroupFans hogs my CPU and RAM like crazy
in my four days old 32-bit SeaMonkey v2.40 and 64-bit W7 HPE SP1
installations. I never had this problem in SM in my very old, updated
Windows XP Pro SP3 box (same hardwares except its HDD replacement due to
a nasty click of death crash).



Thank you in advance. :)


FB generally was causing me considerable CPU usage in 2.40 on Linux.
Upgrading to 2.46 didn't help. I found my profile's places.sqlite was
over 60,000K. ~20,000K is the initial size. I compacted places.sqlite
with the Sqlite Browser utility, and SM responsiveness improved a lot,
even though compaction only reduced filesize about 22%.


Is that utilty from http://sqlitebrowser.org/?
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Re: Is anyone having major CPU and RAM hogs on this facebook.com web page?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Ant wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/BlueManGroupFans hogs my CPU and RAM like crazy in my 
four days
old 32-bit SeaMonkey v2.40 and 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 installations. I never had 
this problem
in SM in my very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 box (same hardwares except its 
HDD
replacement due to a nasty click of death crash).

Thank you in advance. :)


Mine is working normally. SM 26, w7/64, 12g ram.
It's cpu and ram usage is barely noticeable.
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Re: Is anyone having major CPU and RAM hogs on this facebook.com web page?

[Felix Miata]

Ant composed on 2016-10-26 19:09 (UTC-0700):


https://www.facebook.com/BlueManGroupFans hogs my CPU and RAM like crazy
in my four days old 32-bit SeaMonkey v2.40 and 64-bit W7 HPE SP1
installations. I never had this problem in SM in my very old, updated
Windows XP Pro SP3 box (same hardwares except its HDD replacement due to
a nasty click of death crash).



Thank you in advance. :)


FB generally was causing me considerable CPU usage in 2.40 on Linux. 
Upgrading to 2.46 didn't help. I found my profile's places.sqlite was over 
60,000K. ~20,000K is the initial size. I compacted places.sqlite with the 
Sqlite Browser utility, and SM responsiveness improved a lot, even though 
compaction only reduced filesize about 22%.

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Re: SeaMonkey's IEview extension replacement in 64-bit W7?

[Ant]

On 10/26/2016 2:25 AM, Wolfgang Steger wrote:

Ant schrieb:
[...]

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/


Thanks. It does more than IE web browser. Even better. I wished I could
right click on the web page like IEview, but whatever.



You can integrate "Open With" into the page context menu (among others).
Just look at the extension's settings.


Oh, even better. Thanks. :)
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Is anyone having major CPU and RAM hogs on this facebook.com web page?

[Ant]

https://www.facebook.com/BlueManGroupFans hogs my CPU and RAM like crazy 
in my four days old 32-bit SeaMonkey v2.40 and 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 
installations. I never had this problem in SM in my very old, updated 
Windows XP Pro SP3 box (same hardwares except its HDD replacement due to 
a nasty click of death crash).


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Re: Google GMAIL

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mark Blake wrote:


Google GMAIL has a banner on top of it's page that states:  This
version of FireFox is no longer supported. Please fix this.


Or ignore it. It won't keep you from using the site normally.

BTW, it's not SeaMonkey's fault that Google's web designers are so 
stupid, and the SM developers can't make them smarten up.


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Re: Google GMAIL

[WaltS48]

On 10/26/2016 04:31 PM, Mark Blake wrote:

Google GMAIL has a banner on top of it's page that states:  This version of 
FireFox is no longer supported. Please fix this.



Opps! Here is the link 



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Re: Google GMAIL

[WaltS48]

On 10/26/2016 04:31 PM, Mark Blake wrote:

Google GMAIL has a banner on top of it's page that states:  This version of 
FireFox is no longer supported. Please fix this.



Fix it yourself. Disable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" using Edit > 
Preferences > Advanced > HTTP Networking and remove the check mark.


Something I suggested in this thread with some other solutions.


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Google GMAIL

[Mark Blake]

Google GMAIL has a banner on top of it's page that states:  This version of 
FireFox is no longer supported. Please fix this.
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Re: A visual aid for tri-focal generation - Available? Feasible??

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/26/2016 1:41 PM, G. Ross wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm a tri-focal wearer with a fussy and strong astigmatism.
I have problems spotting the microscopic image which tags a
folder with *NEW* unread messages. Messages in folders keep their
status as "unread" until I deal with the contents - it's
essentially my to-do list. I use flag status for a different
function.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro SP3
My likely relevant settings are:
View->Layout->Classic View
View->Apply Theme->SeaMonkey Default Theme

My preferred solution would be to change the color of the folder
title to indicate presence of *NEW* unread messages.
A _possible_ alternative might be toggling font face/metric of
the folder title.

Comments?
TIA


Instead of re marking it as unread, you can right click on the
heading and select "tag".  This gives you a range of types of
tags with different colors.  I have never used it except to try
it out.  Try that out.



I already have 26 tags defined. Some based on subject. Some based 
on importance. Some messages have 3 or 4 tags applied. Under 
Views->Message->Custom Views I have 14 listed. I also display the 
total number of unread messages in each folder so it seems 
reasonable to wish change some *VISIBLE* attribute of the 
folder's name when there is a *NEW* message present. Rather than 
that all but infinitesimal microscopic arrow.


YMMV ;/

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Re: A visual aid for tri-focal generation - Available? Feasible??

[EE]

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 10/26/2016 10:58 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm a tri-focal wearer with a fussy and strong astigmatism.
I have problems spotting the microscopic image which tags a
folder with
*NEW* unread messages. Messages in folders keep their status as
"unread"
until I deal with the contents - it's essentially my to-do
list. I use
flag status for a different function.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro SP3
My likely relevant settings are:
   View->Layout->Classic View
   View->Apply Theme->SeaMonkey Default Theme

My preferred solution would be to change the color of the
folder title
to indicate presence of *NEW* unread messages.
A _possible_ alternative might be toggling font face/metric of the
folder title.


On my system with Classic view and Default theme, folder names in
the list are bolded when they contain unread messages, and
subject lines of unread messages are similarly bolded in the
list. Is that not true on yours?



yes *BUT* 2
All messages are divided into three classes. [Apologies to the late J.
Caesar]
   1. messages which have been read and require no further action.
   2. messages which have been read and require *further* action.
  my 'to-do' list -- indicated by resetting status to unread
  the flag icon is used for another purpose
   3. messages which have *NEVER* been read as they arrived since the
folder
  was last opened.

I've never claimed to be "normal" ;)


Have you tried using tags for that?  You can add your own tags.

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Re: A visual aid for tri-focal generation - Available? Feasible??

[G. Ross]

Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm a tri-focal wearer with a fussy and strong astigmatism.
I have problems spotting the microscopic image which tags a
folder with *NEW* unread messages. Messages in folders keep their
status as "unread" until I deal with the contents - it's
essentially my to-do list. I use flag status for a different
function.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro SP3
My likely relevant settings are:
View->Layout->Classic View
View->Apply Theme->SeaMonkey Default Theme

My preferred solution would be to change the color of the folder
title to indicate presence of *NEW* unread messages.
A _possible_ alternative might be toggling font face/metric of
the folder title.

Comments?
TIA

Instead of re marking it as unread, you can right click on the heading 
and select "tag".  This gives you a range of types of tags with 
different colors.  I have never used it except to try it out.  Try 
that out.


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Re: A visual aid for tri-focal generation - Available? Feasible??

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Richard Owlett wrote:


On 10/26/2016 10:58 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
On my system with Classic view and Default theme, folder names in
the list are bolded when they contain unread messages, and
subject lines of unread messages are similarly bolded in the
list. Is that not true on yours?



yes *BUT* 2
All messages are divided into three classes. [Apologies to the late J.
Caesar]
1. messages which have been read and require no further action.
2. messages which have been read and require *further* action.
   my 'to-do' list -- indicated by resetting status to unread
   the flag icon is used for another purpose
3. messages which have *NEVER* been read as they arrived since the
   folder was last opened.


I use the same technique. Messages that I've toggled back to unread (by 
pressing "M") are bolded just as messages that I've never read are.


Given your class divisions, George Orwell would wonder whether some 
messages are more equal than others. ;-)


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Re: A visual aid for tri-focal generation - Available? Feasible??

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/26/2016 10:58 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm a tri-focal wearer with a fussy and strong astigmatism.
I have problems spotting the microscopic image which tags a
folder with
*NEW* unread messages. Messages in folders keep their status as
"unread"
until I deal with the contents - it's essentially my to-do
list. I use
flag status for a different function.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro SP3
My likely relevant settings are:
   View->Layout->Classic View
   View->Apply Theme->SeaMonkey Default Theme

My preferred solution would be to change the color of the
folder title
to indicate presence of *NEW* unread messages.
A _possible_ alternative might be toggling font face/metric of the
folder title.


On my system with Classic view and Default theme, folder names in
the list are bolded when they contain unread messages, and
subject lines of unread messages are similarly bolded in the
list. Is that not true on yours?



yes *BUT* 2
All messages are divided into three classes. [Apologies to the 
late J. Caesar]

   1. messages which have been read and require no further action.
   2. messages which have been read and require *further* action.
  my 'to-do' list -- indicated by resetting status to unread
  the flag icon is used for another purpose
   3. messages which have *NEVER* been read as they arrived 
since the folder

  was last opened.

I've never claimed to be "normal" ;)

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Re: A visual aid for tri-focal generation - Available? Feasible??

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm a tri-focal wearer with a fussy and strong astigmatism.
I have problems spotting the microscopic image which tags a folder with
*NEW* unread messages. Messages in folders keep their status as "unread"
until I deal with the contents - it's essentially my to-do list. I use
flag status for a different function.

I am using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro SP3
My likely relevant settings are:
   View->Layout->Classic View
   View->Apply Theme->SeaMonkey Default Theme

My preferred solution would be to change the color of the folder title
to indicate presence of *NEW* unread messages.
A _possible_ alternative might be toggling font face/metric of the
folder title.


On my system with Classic view and Default theme, folder names in the 
list are bolded when they contain unread messages, and subject lines of 
unread messages are similarly bolded in the list. Is that not true on yours?


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A visual aid for tri-focal generation - Available? Feasible??

[Richard Owlett]

I'm a tri-focal wearer with a fussy and strong astigmatism.
I have problems spotting the microscopic image which tags a 
folder with *NEW* unread messages. Messages in folders keep their 
status as "unread" until I deal with the contents - it's 
essentially my to-do list. I use flag status for a different 
function.


I am using SeaMonkey 2.40 on WinXP Pro SP3
My likely relevant settings are:
  View->Layout->Classic View
  View->Apply Theme->SeaMonkey Default Theme

My preferred solution would be to change the color of the folder 
title to indicate presence of *NEW* unread messages.
A _possible_ alternative might be toggling font face/metric of 
the folder title.


Comments?
TIA

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Re: Seamonkey 2.40 and GMail

[Ray Davison]

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Just started seeing a message when I go to the GMail website: This
version of Firefox is no longer supported, please upgrade your browser.

Not sure when this started happening though.

I had not been to the Gmail site for a while - I POP Gmail to SM.  I 
just went to Gmail, got the same "no longer supported" line, but 
everything seems to still work.  And there were a couple non-SPAM 
messages in the SPAM folder.


I just created a filter on the Gmail site that finds any message with @ 
in the address, and does not send it to SPAM.  So we shall see.


Ray


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Re: SeaMonkey's IEview extension replacement in 64-bit W7?

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   Hello!

  On Wednesday, 26.10.2016 05:49(+0200) *Ant* wrote, and I quote (in part):

>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/

> Thanks. It does more than IE web browser. Even better. I wished I
> could right click on the web page like IEview, but whatever.

  I suggest you explore settings of this addon about:openwith
There is a section called "Choose how to display Open With items" --
https://al-ribat.6in4.net/~nazir/tmp/openwith-options.png
there you can define display items in the context menu...
  It is an excellent addon and its author deserves a few euros/dollars,
IMHO...

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Re: SeaMonkey's IEview extension replacement in 64-bit W7?

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Ant schrieb:
[...]
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/
> 
> Thanks. It does more than IE web browser. Even better. I wished I could 
> right click on the web page like IEview, but whatever.
> 

You can integrate "Open With" into the page context menu (among others).
Just look at the extension's settings.

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