Re: WYSIWYG printing?

[Felix Miata]

David E. Ross composed on 2017-03-04 23:08 (UTC-0800):


Screen prints can accomplish what you want, but it involves a cludge of
a process.  The problem is that you only get what is visible within the
browser window.  Thus, you must print, scroll, print some more, scroll
some more, print some more, and so on.  In this process, you must save
each screen print into an image-processing application and then print it
before scrolling to the next section of the Web page.  If you have a
truly advanced image-processing application, you might be able to stitch
together the saved images and then print them all at once as a single
large image.


Need to stitch together can be reduced by reconfiguring a Linux desktop to use a 
virtual space much taller than the physical screen (called "panning" using the 
xrandr utility to make a temporarily taller desktop space), and making the 
browser window the lesser full screen height or as tall as the page content can 
consume. How tall is possible depends on hardware, OS version and driver, but 
could be up to 32k logical px tall, but no less than 2048px tall with any 
non-ancient gfxchip.

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Re: WYSIWYG printing?

[David E. Ross]

On 3/4/2017 10:02 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Many website nowadays have their own "Print" buttons that deliver what 
> the designers consider "printer-friendly" versions of their pages. But 
> even if I ignore those and use SeaMonkey's own "Print" function, many 
> sites outsmart me by serving their "printer-friendly" versions. A prime 
> example is . Pick any page and print it, and 
> you'll find that you've lost all the graphics, fonts, and layout and 
> gotten only a plain-text version of the page.
> 
> Does anyone know how to outsmart these sites and print the pages as 
> received, complete with all the bells and whistles?
> 
> Conversely, for pages that are too fancy/fussy for my taste and don't 
> serve dumbed-down versions on their own, is there a way for the user to 
> select that?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Screen prints can accomplish what you want, but it involves a cludge of
a process.  The problem is that you only get what is visible within the
browser window.  Thus, you must print, scroll, print some more, scroll
some more, print some more, and so on.  In this process, you must save
each screen print into an image-processing application and then print it
before scrolling to the next section of the Web page.  If you have a
truly advanced image-processing application, you might be able to stitch
together the saved images and then print them all at once as a single
large image.

-- 
David E. Ross


Paraphrasing Mark Twain, who was quoting someone else:
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and
alternative truths.
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WYSIWYG printing?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Many website nowadays have their own "Print" buttons that deliver what 
the designers consider "printer-friendly" versions of their pages. But 
even if I ignore those and use SeaMonkey's own "Print" function, many 
sites outsmart me by serving their "printer-friendly" versions. A prime 
example is . Pick any page and print it, and 
you'll find that you've lost all the graphics, fonts, and layout and 
gotten only a plain-text version of the page.


Does anyone know how to outsmart these sites and print the pages as 
received, complete with all the bells and whistles?


Conversely, for pages that are too fancy/fussy for my taste and don't 
serve dumbed-down versions on their own, is there a way for the user to 
select that?


Thanks.

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Re: Is there a way to have HTML5 videos not buffer until I hit play like on YouTube?

[EE]

cyberzen wrote:

Le 27/02/2017 à 18:16, EE a écrit :

I found that FlashBlock stopped HTML5 totally even after I cleared the
placeholder, unless it was turned off.  I switched to Flashstopper.


How did you managed to make it compatible with seamonkey ?


I ran it through the converter.
http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/

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Re: Weird error from viki.com (SOLVED)

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Geoff Welsh wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

.


OT -- my wife is Korean and used to go to this site a lot to watch
Korean movies.


I edit the English subtitles there, have seen 2,969 episodes and 62
movies (there and elsewhere) since 2008.

제 인사를 부인에게 보내주십시오.



PBG, Any good cop shows you could recommend?  I am USA based, but love
the UK ones, maybe something good in Korea?


Please write me off-list. It should be obvious to a human being how to 
change my munged email to a valid one.


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Re: Is there a way to have HTML5 videos not buffer until I hit play like on YouTube?

[cyberzen]

David E. Ross a écrit :

On 3/4/2017 3:56 AM, cyberzen wrote:

Le 27/02/2017 à 18:16, EE a écrit :

I found that FlashBlock stopped HTML5 totally even after I cleared the
placeholder, unless it was turned off.  I switched to Flashstopper.


How did you managed to make it compatible with seamonkey ?



FlashBlock has long had separate versions for Firefox and SeaMonkey.
The 1.5.* versions are for Firefox, and the 1.3.* versions are for
SeaMonkey.  I have Flashblock 1.3.21 from 2014.

I cannot remember how I got 1.3.21, but I still have the .xpi installer
file.  Let me know here if you want it.  I can upload it to a test area
of my Web site for you to download it.


thank you for replying
I was asking for flashstopper that I did not know
besides your version of flashblock seems to be here :
http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/flashblock-1.3.21.xpi
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Re: Is there a way to have HTML5 videos not buffer until I hit play like on YouTube?

[David E. Ross]

On 3/4/2017 3:56 AM, cyberzen wrote:
> Le 27/02/2017 à 18:16, EE a écrit :
>> I found that FlashBlock stopped HTML5 totally even after I cleared the
>> placeholder, unless it was turned off.  I switched to Flashstopper.
> 
> How did you managed to make it compatible with seamonkey ?
> 

FlashBlock has long had separate versions for Firefox and SeaMonkey.
The 1.5.* versions are for Firefox, and the 1.3.* versions are for
SeaMonkey.  I have Flashblock 1.3.21 from 2014.

I cannot remember how I got 1.3.21, but I still have the .xpi installer
file.  Let me know here if you want it.  I can upload it to a test area
of my Web site for you to download it.

-- 
David E. Ross


Paraphrasing Mark Twain, who was quoting someone else:
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and
alternative truths.
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Re: Weird error from viki.com (SOLVED)

[Geoff Welsh]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

.


OT -- my wife is Korean and used to go to this site a lot to watch
Korean movies.


I edit the English subtitles there, have seen 2,969 episodes and 62
movies (there and elsewhere) since 2008.

제 인사를 부인에게 보내주십시오.



PBG, Any good cop shows you could recommend?  I am USA based, but love 
the UK ones, maybe something good in Korea?


GW
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Re: No-Squint replacement

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

Roger Fink wrote:

This is such a useful feature to have that I'm surprised all browsers
don't have it hard-wired in.


I used to use nosquint. Then I switched to theme and font size changer.
Now I just get by setting the minimum zoom level. It's not perfect but
it's good enough.

You could also experiment with setting a minimum font size, but that can
mess up some sites.

Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Content -> Zoom options -> Range


Or about:config zoom.minPercent;170


I used to use Theme & Font Size changer until they somehow managed to 
override my upgrade setting, which was set to manual. They stonewalled 
me when I asked them about it, and this led me to consider what else 
they might do without my permission. Before their heads could swell up 
any further, I decided to uninstall the extension and live with the 
results. This turned out to be a good decision because after 
uninstalling it all the settings were retained.





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Re: SM 2.46 not rendering tabs content and more

[flyguy]

David E. Ross wrote on 3/3/2017 1:12 PM:

On 3/3/2017 11:20 AM, flyguy wrote:

I previously asked a similar question about tab content only, but the problem 
now
affects more than that.

This began after I installed 2.46 (previously using 2.42). Two or three times a
week, I will load a page that doesn't completely render and still shows parts of
the page (in another tab on the same window) I just left.

Waiting a few seconds to a minute often let's it clear on it's own; paging
down/up almost always renders it correctly; closing the window and trying again
often renders the pages correctly.

Rebooting fixes it for a couple days, at least.

It's getting worse: now, a new window - no tabs, no website - can have
incomplete rendering: a black bar directly under the Bookmarks toolbar. If I
hover the cursor along the black bar, it renders that portion of the bar
properly. Tab pages still do not render correctly, however.

It even affects a "Search messages" window, with incomplete rendering along the 
top.

It has the Intel HD Graphics 530 Driver version 20.19.15.4549 driver (Nov 25,
2016 for the win 10 anniversary update) installed, which is supposed to be the
newest version. Hardware acceleration doesn't seem to be an option with my
computer. Hardware acceleration is not selected in SM.

I ran the Win 10 Troubleshooter, which said it fixed a problem, please
reboot, so I did. After a day or so, the improper rendering returned.

The responses to my previous question were about the video driver, and I detail
that above. To test if it is SM 2.46 that is causing the problem, perhaps I 
should
revert to 2.42 (not sure how to do that)?



Is this affecting Web pages or E-mail?  Did you try this in Safe Mode?


It affects web pages, but I haven't seen it affect email, other than the "search 
messages" window when I tried to search this forum. I'll try safe mode next time 
the problem occurs.


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Re: Is there a way to have HTML5 videos not buffer until I hit play like on YouTube?

[cyberzen]

Le 27/02/2017 à 18:16, EE a écrit :

I found that FlashBlock stopped HTML5 totally even after I cleared the
placeholder, unless it was turned off.  I switched to Flashstopper.


How did you managed to make it compatible with seamonkey ?

--
cyberzen
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Re: No-Squint replacement

[Richmond]

Roger Fink wrote:
> This is such a useful feature to have that I'm surprised all browsers 
> don't have it hard-wired in.
> 

I used to use nosquint. Then I switched to theme and font size changer.
Now I just get by setting the minimum zoom level. It's not perfect but
it's good enough.

You could also experiment with setting a minimum font size, but that can
mess up some sites.

Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Content -> Zoom options -> Range


Or about:config zoom.minPercent;170
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Re: SM 2.46 not rendering tabs content and more

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

There is now a 15.45.14.4590 available:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26563/Graphics-Intel-Graphics-Driver-for-Windows-15-45-

And a Beta 15.45.4614
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26604/Graphics-Intel-Graphics-Driver-Beta-15-45-

There is probably nothing we can do about it. If you get the same problems 
with Firefox 49 this would point to either a bug in Gecko or a problem with 
your OS and / or configuration.


The Intel adapters use system memory to store graphics data.

Try memtest and check if your memory has problems:

http://www.memtest.org/

Also if you you PC uses only one ram slot and has two buy a second one with 
identical specs. With previous Intel graphics adapters screen corruption did 
occur when they were not running in dual channel mode. On my company laptop I 
see white streaks and occasional rendering failures too under Windows 7. 
Memtest should report how your system is configured.


You could try Adrians 2.48 and see if this is fixed in a later version:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/

The official 2.48 or 2.49 whatever comes earlier can be installed over it with 
no data loss. Please backup you profile if you want to go back to 2.46.


Instead of Windows 10 I would also recommend 8.1 with classic shell. With the 
half baked changes Microsoft is doing right now and the spotty Intel driver 
support this won't get any better in the long run.


FRG

flyguy wrote:
I previously asked a similar question about tab content only, but the problem 
now affects more than that.


This began after I installed 2.46 (previously using 2.42). Two or three times 
a week, I will load a page that doesn't completely render and still shows 
parts of the page (in another tab on the same window) I just left.


Waiting a few seconds to a minute often let's it clear on it's own; paging
down/up almost always renders it correctly; closing the window and trying 
again often renders the pages correctly.


Rebooting fixes it for a couple days, at least.

It's getting worse: now, a new window - no tabs, no website - can have
incomplete rendering: a black bar directly under the Bookmarks toolbar. If I
hover the cursor along the black bar, it renders that portion of the bar
properly. Tab pages still do not render correctly, however.

It even affects a "Search messages" window, with incomplete rendering along 
the top.


It has the Intel HD Graphics 530 Driver version 20.19.15.4549 driver (Nov 25,
2016 for the win 10 anniversary update) installed, which is supposed to be the
newest version. Hardware acceleration doesn't seem to be an option with my
computer. Hardware acceleration is not selected in SM.

I ran the Win 10 Troubleshooter, which said it fixed a problem, please
reboot, so I did. After a day or so, the improper rendering returned.

The responses to my previous question were about the video driver, and I 
detail that above. To test if it is SM 2.46 that is causing the problem, 
perhaps I should revert to 2.42 (not sure how to do that)?


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