Re: Incoming Mail "Arrow" - but no mail !

2017-10-14 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

G. Ross wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

  I keep seeing that there is mail in my mailbox, but there is no mail
there !

What would cause that !?2.46

DoctorBill


Do you have a filter that deletes mail from some sender?



Yes !
If the filter deletes a mail, does it still show up as incoming ?

How would I know which one was deleted ?  No deleted mail in trash -
apparently.

DB


I TAKE THAT BACK - I do NOT have any message filters !
All previous filters have disappeared !

DB


It just happened AGAIN !

Something is activating the new mail arrow !
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Re: Incoming Mail "Arrow" - but no mail !

2017-10-14 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

G. Ross wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

  I keep seeing that there is mail in my mailbox, but there is no mail
there !

What would cause that !?2.46

DoctorBill


Do you have a filter that deletes mail from some sender?



Yes !
If the filter deletes a mail, does it still show up as incoming ?

How would I know which one was deleted ?  No deleted mail in trash -
apparently.

DB


I TAKE THAT BACK - I do NOT have any message filters !
All previous filters have disappeared !

DB
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Re: Incoming Mail "Arrow" - but no mail !

2017-10-14 Thread DoctorBill

G. Ross wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

  I keep seeing that there is mail in my mailbox, but there is no mail
there !

What would cause that !?2.46

DoctorBill


Do you have a filter that deletes mail from some sender?



Yes !
If the filter deletes a mail, does it still show up as incoming ?

How would I know which one was deleted ?  No deleted mail in trash - 
apparently.


DB
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Re: Changing default setting under browser's "View->Use Style"

2017-10-14 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2017-10-14 23:41 (UTC-0500):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> Richard, you might wish to try an alternative to using style none on 
>> Wikipedia.
>> I've attached my personally created user CSS for Wikipedia. You could place 
>> it
>> in your profile's chrome directory (create if it does not already exist), and
>> call it through userContent.css (create if it does not already exist, append 
>> to
>> it if it does) in that same directory with this line:

>>  @import url("wikipedia.css");

>> Restart required to take effect. Simply delete those files to eliminate their
>> effects.

> Your attachment didn't come thru. Does this group allow attachments?
> Please email me the attachment. Thank you.

I know better, but something had me thinking this was going to the debian-user
mailing list. :-p

Here it is for any and all interested:
http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/wikipedia.css
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Re: Changing default setting under browser's "View->Use Style"

2017-10-14 Thread Richard Owlett

On 10/14/2017 04:27 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

David E. Ross composed on 2017-10-14 13:26 (UTC-0700):


Richard Owlett wrote:



The standard is "View->Use Style->Default Style" which displays the page
as author intended.



I find that many pages are *MUCH EASIER* to use if "View->Use
Style->None" is selected. e.g. The content of any page in
https://en.wikipedia.org is more readable if the body text uses all
available display width.



Can the default be changed to "None"?
Can it be altered on a specific profile?



Unfortunately, it appears that Use Style is not controlled by a
preference variable.


What use style none does is disable all CSS that is not internal to SeaMonkey.
That means author styles as well as any contained in your profile's chrome
directory (if any). Toggling that menu selection apparently causes a rather
complicated process.

cf. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208641


I installed the PrefBar extension for many other features.  I then
downloaded and imported into PrefBar the CSS Checkbox from
.


Richard, you might wish to try an alternative to using style none on Wikipedia.
I've attached my personally created user CSS for Wikipedia. You could place it
in your profile's chrome directory (create if it does not already exist), and
call it through userContent.css (create if it does not already exist, append to
it if it does) in that same directory with this line:

@import url("wikipedia.css");

Restart required to take effect. Simply delete those files to eliminate their
effects.



Your attachment didn't come thru. Does this group allow attachments?
Please email me the attachment. Thank you.

In any case I see some home study of  user Content.css in my future ;)


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Re: Incoming Mail "Arrow" - but no mail !

2017-10-14 Thread G. Ross

DoctorBill wrote:

  I keep seeing that there is mail in my mailbox, but there is no mail
there !

What would cause that !?2.46

DoctorBill


Do you have a filter that deletes mail from some sender?

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Re: Changing default setting under browser's "View->Use Style"

2017-10-14 Thread Felix Miata
David E. Ross composed on 2017-10-14 13:26 (UTC-0700):

> Richard Owlett wrote:

>> The standard is "View->Use Style->Default Style" which displays the page 
>> as author intended.

>> I find that many pages are *MUCH EASIER* to use if "View->Use 
>> Style->None" is selected. e.g. The content of any page in 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org is more readable if the body text uses all 
>> available display width.

>> Can the default be changed to "None"?
>> Can it be altered on a specific profile?

> Unfortunately, it appears that Use Style is not controlled by a
> preference variable. 

What use style none does is disable all CSS that is not internal to SeaMonkey.
That means author styles as well as any contained in your profile's chrome
directory (if any). Toggling that menu selection apparently causes a rather
complicated process.

cf. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208641

> I installed the PrefBar extension for many other features.  I then
> downloaded and imported into PrefBar the CSS Checkbox from
> .

Richard, you might wish to try an alternative to using style none on Wikipedia.
I've attached my personally created user CSS for Wikipedia. You could place it
in your profile's chrome directory (create if it does not already exist), and
call it through userContent.css (create if it does not already exist, append to
it if it does) in that same directory with this line:

@import url("wikipedia.css");

Restart required to take effect. Simply delete those files to eliminate their
effects.
-- 
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get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)

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Re: Do I Need Sessionstore?

2017-10-14 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/14/2017 11:19 AM, Larry S. wrote:
> Mason83 wrote:
>> On 13/10/2017 21:00, Larry S. wrote:
>>> My profile contains 14 versions of the file "sessionstore", numbered 1
>>> thru 14, plus two called sessionstore.json and sessionstore.bak.
>>>
>>> Do I need all these? Any? Can I delete some? All? What are they?
>>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/about-sessionstore/
>>
>> Quoting that page:
>>> Firefox writes the sessionstore.js file to disk every 15 seconds, to
>>> be able to restore tabs after a crash or restart. Certain sites can
>>> make the sessionstore.js file grow very large leading to poor
>>> performance, this addon can help identify which tabs store unusually
>>> large amounts of data (form data, DOM sessionStorage, or many
>>> subframes/history states).
>>
>>
>> See also:
>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1057949
>>
>> Regards.
>>
> Thank you, Mason, for your insights. Your reply helps me understand the 
> purpose of the file, but it doesn't fully address my concerns. I don't 
> seem to have a "Sessionstore.js" as your reference discussed (but do 
> have a json in many versions).
> 
> In addition to the json and bak (alone) versions, I have fourteen json 
> versions numbered 1 through 14, with dates stretching back almost six 
> years. It's those I still wonder about.
> Larry S.
> 

In each of three of my five profiles, I have one sessionstore.json and
one sessionstore.bak.  In my other two profiles, I have no sessionstore
files of any kind.  In those two profiles, I have set my [Privacy &
Security > Private Data] preferences to always clear my Browsing
History, Location Bar History, and Cache.

I suspect (but have not tested) that clearing my Location Bar History is
what deletes sessionstore.json and one sessionstore.bak.  From the prior
comments in this thread, I believe you can safely delete the numbered
sessionstore files and any sessionstore.js as they are likely obsolete.

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Re: Changing default setting under browser's "View->Use Style"

2017-10-14 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/14/2017 7:07 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> The standard is "View->Use Style->Default Style" which displays the page 
> as author intended.
> 
> I find that many pages are *MUCH EASIER* to use if "View->Use 
> Style->None" is selected. e.g. The content of any page in 
> https://en.wikipedia.org is more readable if the body text uses all 
> available display width.
> 
> Can the default be changed to "None"?
> Can it be altered on a specific profile?
> 
> TIA
> 

Unfortunately, it appears that Use Style is not controlled by a
preference variable.

I installed the PrefBar extension for many other features.  I then
downloaded and imported into PrefBar the CSS Checkbox from
.

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Re: Do I Need Sessionstore?

2017-10-14 Thread Mason83
On 14/10/2017 20:19, Larry S. wrote:
> Mason83 wrote:
>> On 13/10/2017 21:00, Larry S. wrote:
>>> My profile contains 14 versions of the file "sessionstore", numbered 1
>>> thru 14, plus two called sessionstore.json and sessionstore.bak.
>>>
>>> Do I need all these? Any? Can I delete some? All? What are they?
>>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/about-sessionstore/
>>
>> Quoting that page:
>>> Firefox writes the sessionstore.js file to disk every 15 seconds, to
>>> be able to restore tabs after a crash or restart. Certain sites can
>>> make the sessionstore.js file grow very large leading to poor
>>> performance, this addon can help identify which tabs store unusually
>>> large amounts of data (form data, DOM sessionStorage, or many
>>> subframes/history states).
>>
>>
>> See also:
>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1057949
>>
>> Regards.
>>
> Thank you, Mason, for your insights. Your reply helps me understand the 
> purpose of the file, but it doesn't fully address my concerns. I don't 
> seem to have a "Sessionstore.js" as your reference discussed (but do 
> have a json in many versions).

Yes, the format of the file was changed at some point.
Hence .js => .json

> In addition to the json and bak (alone) versions, I have fourteen json 
> versions numbered 1 through 14, with dates stretching back almost six 
> years. It's those I still wonder about.

Here's my suggestion.

Close SM. Move all the sessionstore files to a temp directory
somewhere out of the way. Start SM. Confirm everything is
working as usual. You can keep the backups around for a few
days, then you can delete them.

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Re: Do I Need Sessionstore?

2017-10-14 Thread Ray_Net

Larry S. wrote on 14-10-17 20:19:

Mason83 wrote:

On 13/10/2017 21:00, Larry S. wrote:

My profile contains 14 versions of the file "sessionstore", numbered 1
thru 14, plus two called sessionstore.json and sessionstore.bak.

Do I need all these? Any? Can I delete some? All? What are they?


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/about-sessionstore/

Quoting that page:

Firefox writes the sessionstore.js file to disk every 15 seconds, to
be able to restore tabs after a crash or restart. Certain sites can
make the sessionstore.js file grow very large leading to poor
performance, this addon can help identify which tabs store unusually
large amounts of data (form data, DOM sessionStorage, or many
subframes/history states).



See also:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1057949

Regards.

Thank you, Mason, for your insights. Your reply helps me understand 
the purpose of the file, but it doesn't fully address my concerns. I 
don't seem to have a "Sessionstore.js" as your reference discussed 
(but do have a json in many versions).


In addition to the json and bak (alone) versions, I have fourteen json 
versions numbered 1 through 14, with dates stretching back almost six 
years. It's those I still wonder about.

Larry S.

I have only one sessionstore.js in my FireFox profile.
I don't have any sessionstore.js in my SeaMonkey profile.
My SeaMonkey profile contains:
- sessionstore.json dated 14-10-17
- sessionstore-1.json dated 09-11-16
- sessionstore-2.json dated 13-11-16

I don't have any sessionstore.bak file

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Incoming Mail "Arrow" - but no mail !

2017-10-14 Thread DoctorBill
 I keep seeing that there is mail in my mailbox, but there is no mail 
there !


What would cause that !?2.46

DoctorBill
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Re: Do I Need Sessionstore?

2017-10-14 Thread Larry S.

Mason83 wrote:

On 13/10/2017 21:00, Larry S. wrote:

My profile contains 14 versions of the file "sessionstore", numbered 1
thru 14, plus two called sessionstore.json and sessionstore.bak.

Do I need all these? Any? Can I delete some? All? What are they?


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/about-sessionstore/

Quoting that page:

Firefox writes the sessionstore.js file to disk every 15 seconds, to
be able to restore tabs after a crash or restart. Certain sites can
make the sessionstore.js file grow very large leading to poor
performance, this addon can help identify which tabs store unusually
large amounts of data (form data, DOM sessionStorage, or many
subframes/history states).



See also:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1057949

Regards.

Thank you, Mason, for your insights. Your reply helps me understand the 
purpose of the file, but it doesn't fully address my concerns. I don't 
seem to have a "Sessionstore.js" as your reference discussed (but do 
have a json in many versions).


In addition to the json and bak (alone) versions, I have fourteen json 
versions numbered 1 through 14, with dates stretching back almost six 
years. It's those I still wonder about.

Larry S.
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Re: Changing default setting under browser's "View->Use Style"

2017-10-14 Thread Richard Owlett

On 10/14/2017 09:47 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/14/17 10:07 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

The standard is "View->Use Style->Default Style" which displays the
page as author intended.

I find that many pages are *MUCH EASIER* to use if "View->Use
Style->None" is selected. e.g. The content of any page in
https://en.wikipedia.org is more readable if the body text uses all
available display width.

Can the default be changed to "None"?
Can it be altered on a specific profile?

TIA




You might be interested in this extension.




That's swatting a mosquito with a hundred pound sledge.
I wish to change one specific default.
I browsed about:confg without finding anything relevant.
Besides which I've explicitly avoided addons/addins since Netscape ;)




Firefox has a built-in Reader View that works quite well for rendering
just text.




A quick read suggests that it tries to present what it guesses is the 
useful portion of a site's content. I like explicit control.




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Re: Changing default setting under browser's "View->Use Style"

2017-10-14 Thread WaltS48

On 10/14/17 10:07 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
The standard is "View->Use Style->Default Style" which displays the page 
as author intended.


I find that many pages are *MUCH EASIER* to use if "View->Use 
Style->None" is selected. e.g. The content of any page in 
https://en.wikipedia.org is more readable if the body text uses all 
available display width.


Can the default be changed to "None"?
Can it be altered on a specific profile?

TIA




You might be interested in this extension.



Firefox has a built-in Reader View that works quite well for rendering 
just text.




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Re: SeaMonkey not recognizing existing profiles

2017-10-14 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Daniel wrote:

On 13/10/2017 1:19 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:





Oh okay you're Windows drive mapping to the SAMBA share. Next
questions:

Is the SeaMonkey profile a subdirectory under ~/.seamonkey or that
directory itself? Because profiles are usually a subdirectory named
SALT.default where SALT is 8 random characters and numbers.


If you connect a new profile to an existing profile the directory is
whatever you point it to. The SALT is created somewhat inconsistently. I
have some that aren't in the current format because SeaMonkey used to do
it differently.


Nope. I've migrated this profile since Netscape Communicator. I cannot
remember when the SALT in the profile started whether it was when
Communicator upgraded from 4.7 to 5 or 6, or when converted to Mozilla
1.0 browser. IIRC SeaMonkey always defaulted using SALT.


"SeaMonkey always defaulted using SALT" ... as long as you did a
standard installation!! If you went Custom Install (as I do), the SALT
is optional.



I always use Custom Install option in installers. Just checked in a VM 
with a pristine install just in case any legacy settings would effect 
the install. Setup gives you the option for the location of the 
*application* but not the location of the initial user profile. It will 
use the salt with that initial profile.


Now you have the option later to launch SeaMonkey profile manager to 
create a new profile with a custom location and directory name, but you 
cannot do that with the initial setup, Standard or Custom.


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Changing default setting under browser's "View->Use Style"

2017-10-14 Thread Richard Owlett
The standard is "View->Use Style->Default Style" which displays the page 
as author intended.


I find that many pages are *MUCH EASIER* to use if "View->Use 
Style->None" is selected. e.g. The content of any page in 
https://en.wikipedia.org is more readable if the body text uses all 
available display width.


Can the default be changed to "None"?
Can it be altered on a specific profile?

TIA

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Re: java

2017-10-14 Thread Daniel

On 14/10/2017 9:49 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 10/13/17 4:10 PM, Smiles wrote:

I get the note that Java is not enabled in browser but can not find it in
settings SeaMonkey 2.48 under Win7



Do you see it listed on the "Plug-ins" screen of Tools->Add-on Manager??

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Re: java

2017-10-14 Thread Mr. Ed
On 10/13/17 4:10 PM, Smiles wrote:
> I get the note that Java is not enabled in browser but can not find it in
> settings SeaMonkey 2.48 under Win7


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Re: java

2017-10-14 Thread Mr. Ed
On 10/13/17 4:10 PM, Smiles wrote:
> I get the note that Java is not enabled in browser but can not find it in
> settings SeaMonkey 2.48 under Win7
I've been running without Java on my machine for over two years.  Have only had
problems with one site that I decided not to use anymore. 
I recommend that you only use Java if you absolutely need it.  (Java script is 
OK)

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Re: Do I Need Sessionstore?

2017-10-14 Thread Mason83
On 13/10/2017 21:00, Larry S. wrote:
> My profile contains 14 versions of the file "sessionstore", numbered 1 
> thru 14, plus two called sessionstore.json and sessionstore.bak.
> 
> Do I need all these? Any? Can I delete some? All? What are they?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/about-sessionstore/

Quoting that page:
> Firefox writes the sessionstore.js file to disk every 15 seconds, to
> be able to restore tabs after a crash or restart. Certain sites can
> make the sessionstore.js file grow very large leading to poor
> performance, this addon can help identify which tabs store unusually
> large amounts of data (form data, DOM sessionStorage, or many
> subframes/history states).


See also:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1057949

Regards.
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