Re: Google Search Tools Not Working

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Cecil Bankston wrote:

The Tools button on the Google search page opens drop-down lists for 
setting time range of search results and verbatim/all results settings. 
These tools work as expected in other browsers, but clicking the 
drop-down tools in SeaMonkey does nothing.


Their webmaster is an idiot, designed the page layout poorly.

You have to mouse over a very thin sliver of space just under "Any time" 
and "All results" to get the options for those parameters. When the 
cursor turns to a hand (or whatever symbol indicates a clickable link on 
your system), click and you'll see the options:


Any time   All results
Past hour  Verbatim
Past 24 hours
Past week
Past month
Past year
Custom range

It also helps if you don't set a minimum font size for "Western." The 
larger your minimum font size, the harder it is to find that sliver of 
clickable space.


Edit | Appearance | Fonts

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Google Search Tools Not Working

[Cecil Bankston]

The Tools button on the Google search page opens drop-down lists for 
setting time range of search results and verbatim/all results settings. 
These tools work as expected in other browsers, but clicking the 
drop-down tools in SeaMonkey does nothing.

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Re: Assess error (possibly do to SM blocking)

[Paul Bergsagel]

WFM using SeaMonkey 2.46 on Mac OS 10.7.5.

stan wrote:

I am on SM 2.49.1, same error:
Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.godaddy.com/; on this
server.

Reference #18.d62e12d1.1513316090.19f0b7b2

Other browsers work a OK, GoDaddy.com claims that it can't be on their
side.

Could it be some virus?


stan wrote:

It did not worked.
Where did you got SM 2.49.1?
Highest I see is SM 2.46




WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/12/17 2:14 PM, stan wrote:

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.godaddy.com/?; on this
server.

Reference #18.6c384317.1513105848.26ec1d4a


No problem accessing it here using SM 2.49.1.

Restart in Safe Mode and try again. If it works, one of your extensions
is causing your problem.

Or try 







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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Hartmut Figge wrote:


Hm, no. Not for my SMs. My standard choice is Plain test and every HTML

Plain Text

A possibility for supersede would be nice. :)


You might like to tell us how you chose and enforced that "standard 
choice." Even better, I'd be perfectly happy if SM honored the sender's 
choice. But that's not what happens on my machine.


P.S. The listserv to which I referred was not this one. I subscribe to 
several, and some require plain text and honor it, but that particular 
one converts all messages to multipart/alternative with an HTML version 
and a plain text version.


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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Hartmut Figge]

Hartmut Figge:

>Hm, no. Not for my SMs. My standard choice is Plain test and every HTML
   Plain Text

A possibility for supersede would be nice. :)

Hartmut
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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Hartmut Figge]

Paul B. Gallagher:
>Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> What you see depends on the setting under View->Message Body As. These
>> options are available:
>> 
>> Original HTML
>> Simple HTML
>> Plain Text
>
>Yes and no. SM does remember if I choose an option for a particular 
>message, but it doesn't apply that setting globally.

Hm, no. Not for my SMs. My standard choice is Plain test and every HTML
message is displayed as such, so long as there *is* a section with
text/plain.

>Your plain-text message was initially displayed as "Original HTML," but 

I don't think so. It was displayed as Plain Text because of the
text/plain in the message.

>I can choose "Plain Text" if I want. There's nothing in your message 
>content or coding that would tell SM to choose "Original HTML," the way 
>a charset specification would tell it which language setting to use, so 
>its choice here seems random.

No. In a multipart message designed for HTML there is a section with
text/html. There may be another section with text/plain. What section SM
chooses depends on the setting for View->Message Body As.

>Looking at another message in my mailbox, which specifies "Content-Type: 
>multipart/alternative; boundary=...," I see that SM chose "Original 
>HTML," which is half-right. It could just as easily have chosen 
>"Original Plain Text," if that were an option, because the message 
>contains both versions. In fact, I sent it as plain text and the 
>listserv added the HTML version.

Hm. I don't know what the listserver is doing. I do not use the list
directly. :) But SM does not choose Original or Simple, it uses the
setting under View for the text/html section.

>So apparently SM uses "Original HTML" unless the user manually changes 
>the setting for a particular message. It doesn't analyze the message 
>content and make a choice.

No. If Plain Text was chosen, SM will always use that. If there is no
text/plain section I assume that the message pane will be empty.

If Original HTML or Simple HTML was selected for View Message Body As,
SM will always use the chosen value if there is a text/html section. If
there is no such but a text/plain section, SM will display this section
as Plain Text.

You could play a little with postings from Good Guy in .general. :)
Dön't forget to use ^u or CTRL+U if in doubt.

Hartmut
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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Hartmut Figge wrote:


Dirk Munk:


My setting is plain text and HTML, but the message appears in plain
text. I would expect to see the HTML version.


What you see depends on the setting under View->Message Body As. These
options are available:

Original HTML
Simple HTML
Plain Text


Yes and no. SM does remember if I choose an option for a particular 
message, but it doesn't apply that setting globally.


Your plain-text message was initially displayed as "Original HTML," but 
I can choose "Plain Text" if I want. There's nothing in your message 
content or coding that would tell SM to choose "Original HTML," the way 
a charset specification would tell it which language setting to use, so 
its choice here seems random.


Looking at another message in my mailbox, which specifies "Content-Type: 
multipart/alternative; boundary=...," I see that SM chose "Original 
HTML," which is half-right. It could just as easily have chosen 
"Original Plain Text," if that were an option, because the message 
contains both versions. In fact, I sent it as plain text and the 
listserv added the HTML version.


So apparently SM uses "Original HTML" unless the user manually changes 
the setting for a particular message. It doesn't analyze the message 
content and make a choice.


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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Dirk Munk]

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 12/15/2017 at 1:33 PM, Dirk Munk created this epitome of digital 
genius:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/14/17 7:46 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Dirk Munk:


There used to be a setting that made HTML the default setting when
sending a mail message. However that setting no longer exists.

Really? In my SM-Trunk it is still there.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171215.png

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017121418 
SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h


Hartmut


You're right, the composing itself is in HTML. But the sending 
process will change it to plain text by default.


Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Send Format in my SM 2.49.1.




My setting is plain text and HTML, but the message appears in plain 
text. I would expect to see the HTML version.


Are you sure there is actually any HTML fomatting in the message? Edit 
- Preferences - Mai & Newsgroups - Send Format.  Look at the bottom 
check box "Automatically send the message as plain text ..."




Yes, indeed I overlooked that setting. I hope this does the trick. Thanks!
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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Hartmut Figge]

Dirk Munk:

>My setting is plain text and HTML, but the message appears in plain 
>text. I would expect to see the HTML version.

What you see depends on the setting under View->Message Body As. These
options are available:

Original HTML
Simple HTML
Plain Text

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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as 
not junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk 
message. Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked 
as read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good 
sense to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk 
message by mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.


To prevent opening the message when you select it, pull down the View 
menu, choose Layout, and uncheck Message Pane.  You can use a separate 
window to display messages.


I'm well aware of how to disable the preview pane.

Most of the time, I prefer to have the three-pane layout (folder list, 
message list, preview pane). It's only very rarely that I need to select 
a junk message without opening it, and I usually remember to disable the 
preview pane for that moment.


All of which I already said.

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Re: A question regarding junk mail

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Buttons? I didn't even realize they had buttons. I just use "J"...

And of course if I open a junk message, there's a little message at 
the top saying that SM considers it junk, with a button to mark as 
not junk. But I can't remember the last time I opened a junk message. 
Why would I?


Who says you have to open the message?  Just select it in the message 
list and click the button.


If I select a message, it's displayed in the preview pane and marked as 
read. To avoid that, I have to first toggle the preview pane off by 
clicking the grippy on the boundary. Fortunately, I have the good sense 
to block the display of remote images, so if I open a junk message by 
mistake, it can't "phone home" using a web beacon.


My display hides the mail toolbar to save space, since I normally use 
keyboard shortcuts such as "N" (next unread message), "M" (mark as 
read), etc. If I show the mail toolbar, I see the "Junk" and "Mark" 
buttons, but I was unaware of their existence since I don't normally 
show the toolbar. Hence my joking query.


To prevent opening the message when you select it, pull down the View 
menu, choose Layout, and uncheck Message Pane.  You can use a separate 
window to display messages.


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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Ed Mullen]

On 12/15/2017 at 1:33 PM, Dirk Munk created this epitome of digital genius:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/14/17 7:46 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Dirk Munk:


There used to be a setting that made HTML the default setting when
sending a mail message. However that setting no longer exists.

Really? In my SM-Trunk it is still there.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171215.png

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017121418 
SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h


Hartmut


You're right, the composing itself is in HTML. But the sending 
process will change it to plain text by default.


Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Send Format in my SM 2.49.1.




My setting is plain text and HTML, but the message appears in plain 
text. I would expect to see the HTML version.


Are you sure there is actually any HTML fomatting in the message?  Edit 
- Preferences - Mai & Newsgroups - Send Format.  Look at the bottom 
check box "Automatically send the message as plain text ..."


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Re: using HTML as default in mail messages

[Dirk Munk]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/14/17 7:46 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Dirk Munk:


There used to be a setting that made HTML the default setting when
sending a mail message. However that setting no longer exists.

Really? In my SM-Trunk it is still there.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm171215.png

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2017121418 
SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h


Hartmut


You're right, the composing itself is in HTML. But the sending 
process will change it to plain text by default.


Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Send Format in my SM 2.49.1.




My setting is plain text and HTML, but the message appears in plain 
text. I would expect to see the HTML version.

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