Re: V2.48 Security Certificate Problem

[David E. Ross]

On 12/18/2017 7:32 PM, Henrik37 wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 12/18/2017 1:17 PM, Henrik37 wrote:
 Oops - after a complete reboot, SM 2.49.1 does appear to have solved the
 problem.

 Does anyone have any idea or explanation about what has been going on?
>>> Oops again - SM 2.49.1 DIDN'T fix my problem after all.  More ideas sought.
>>
>> Have you tried starting SeaMonkey in Safe Mode?
>>
> 
> I receive the same error messages in SeaMonkey Safe Mode.
> 

It is possible that SeaMonkey's database of root certificates is somehow
corrupted on your PC.  Here is how to revert back to the default
database of roots:

1.  With SeaMonkey running in the profile where you have the problem,
select [Help > Troubleshooting Information] on the menu bar.

2.  On the Troubshooting Information window, under Application Basics,
select the Open Folder button to the right of Profile Folder.

3.  Leaving the Windows Explorer folder for your profile open, terminate
SeaMonkey.

4.  In the folder, delete the file named cert8.db.  Then close the window.

5.  Relaunch SeaMonkey and try Home Depot again.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[BERTRAND Joel]

Mozilla User a écrit :

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


	I don't understand. I use Seamonkey 2.49.1 (on Linux and Free/NetBSD) 
and I don't see any trouble with YT (I have to add that last firefox has 
a lot of problems with the same version of YT).


Best regards,

JKB
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Mozilla User]

I just checked, Advertise Firefox compatibility is already checked.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Mozilla User]

Paul B. Gallagher escribió:

Mozilla User wrote:

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the 
newer version of their mail system. I tried to download and install 
the extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


Actually, Yahoo Mail works fine for me on SM 2.49.1 and Win7 Pro SP1 (64 
bit). I don't get the stupid upgrade prompt you posted in your other 
(deleted) message in this thread. Have you tried Edit | Preferences | 
Advanced | HTTP Networking:

 User Agent String
 [x] Advertise Firefox compatibility?


I haven't tried that.. why was the post deleted?

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Mozilla User wrote:

I'm not a troll..


Please turn off the Avast.
My Youtube and Yahoo webmail work ok.
I did need to up the User agent override numbers though.

You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128; rv:57.0) 
Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0



I had to go to https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1  just to load
YouTube until I found out on another forum I could revert back to the previous 
version of
YouTube.

Loading up Yahoo Mail brings me to this page included in the attachment, and 
clicking on
Try It Later, just reloads the page instead of taking me to my inbox.

Like I mentioned, I wanted to load up User Agent Switcher to trick the websites 
into
thinking I was using Chrome or something else, but of course that is no longer 
supported
by SeaMonkey 2.49.1, so I'm stuck. I've got to switch to a new browser I 
suppose because
everything I use with this browser are slowly becoming unsupported.

If it's working for you, then I don't know what you are doing different. I am 
using
SeaMonkey 2.49.1, Windows 10 64bit.




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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mozilla User wrote:

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


Actually, Yahoo Mail works fine for me on SM 2.49.1 and Win7 Pro SP1 (64 
bit). I don't get the stupid upgrade prompt you posted in your other 
(deleted) message in this thread. Have you tried Edit | Preferences | 
Advanced | HTTP Networking:

User Agent String
[x] Advertise Firefox compatibility?

But as I said upthread, I hardly ever use webmails. I had to make a 
special exception for you.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Felix Miata]

Mozilla User composed on 2017-12-18 23:00 (UTC-0500):

> I've got to switch to a new browser  

No one is forced to use a single browser. SM remains my primary, having taken
over from Mozilla Suite, which in turn took over from Netscape 4, and prior, on
my primary PC, but on it I have two different constantly used SM profiles, using
different SM versions, several Firefox profiles, 3 in constant use, each using a
different FF version, Konqueror, and very rarely used, Chromium & Qupzilla.
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Mozilla User]

I'm not a troll.. I had to go to 
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1  just to load YouTube until I 
found out on another forum I could revert back to the previous version 
of YouTube.


Loading up Yahoo Mail brings me to this page included in the attachment, 
and clicking on Try It Later, just reloads the page instead of taking me 
to my inbox.


Like I mentioned, I wanted to load up User Agent Switcher to trick the 
websites into thinking I was using Chrome or something else, but of 
course that is no longer supported by SeaMonkey 2.49.1, so I'm stuck. 
I've got to switch to a new browser I suppose because everything I use 
with this browser are slowly becoming unsupported.


If it's working for you, then I don't know what you are doing different. 
I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.1, Windows 10 64bit.



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Re: V2.48 Security Certificate Problem

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/18/2017 1:17 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Oops - after a complete reboot, SM 2.49.1 does appear to have solved the
problem.

Does anyone have any idea or explanation about what has been going on?

Oops again - SM 2.49.1 DIDN'T fix my problem after all.  More ideas sought.


Have you tried starting SeaMonkey in Safe Mode?


Tried safe mode.  Still the same error messages.
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Re: V2.48 Security Certificate Problem

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/18/2017 1:17 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Oops - after a complete reboot, SM 2.49.1 does appear to have solved the
problem.

Does anyone have any idea or explanation about what has been going on?

Oops again - SM 2.49.1 DIDN'T fix my problem after all.  More ideas sought.


Have you tried starting SeaMonkey in Safe Mode?



I receive the same error messages in SeaMonkey Safe Mode.
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Re: V2.48 Security Certificate Problem

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Henrik37 wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:


Here is a typical error message:

"This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.homedepot.com, 
but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.


Normally, when you try to connect securely, websites will present 
trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right 
place. However, this website's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this website without problems, this error 
could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the website, and 
you shouldn't continue.

Technical Details
I Understand the Risks"


No problem here with 2.49.1.


  I have loaded SM 2.49.1 and it didn't solve the problem.

Oops - after a complete reboot, SM 2.49.1 does appear to have solved 
the problem.


Does anyone have any idea or explanation about what has been going on?


Oops again - SM 2.49.1 DIDN'T fix my problem after all.  More ideas sought.


Here are the two types of error messages being received:

*

Error message type 1:

This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to patch.com, but we can't 
confirm that your connection is secure.


Normally, when you try to connect securely, websites will present 
trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. 
However, this website's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this website without problems, this error 
could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the website, and you 
shouldn't continue.

Technical Details

patch.com uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.
The server might not be sending the appropriate intermediate certificates.
An additional root certificate may need to be imported.

Error code: title="SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER">SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER

I Understand the Risks

If you understand what's going on, you can tell SeaMonkey to start 
trusting this website's identification. Even if you trust the website, 
this error could mean that someone is tampering with your connection.


Don't add an exception unless you know there's a good reason why this 
website doesn't use trusted identification.



Error message type 2:

This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.forbes.com, but we 
can't confirm that your connection is secure.


Normally, when you try to connect securely, websites will present 
trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. 
However, this website's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this website without problems, this error 
could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the website, and you 
shouldn't continue.


This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible 
to add an exception for this certificate.

Technical Details

www.forbes.com uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.
The server might not be sending the appropriate intermediate certificates.
An additional root certificate may need to be imported.

Error code: title="SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER">SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER


*

Does anybody have any idea where these messages are coming from? 
Seamonkey V.2.49.1 or Kaspersky 2017 Internet Security?



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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Paul Bergsagel]

Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.

I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
of my history on the internet.

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I am not experiencing any of the problems or issues you describe. 
SeaMonkey works perfectly for me.


Possibly you may need to check the way your computer or SeaMonkey is 
configured.


If SeaMonkey operated in the manner you describe the SeaMonkey forum 
would have many more posts than yours wondering why SeaMonkey was not 
operating correctly.


It may also be that I have a much different experience than you do since 
I am using the MacOS.


YouTube works perfectly with SeaMonkey. Nine times out of ten the only 
time SeaMonkey fails to function as expected is when a web page is badly 
written by not following the standard rules for designing web pages.


A final thought: maybe you are a troll. I hope not.
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[WaltS48]

Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


What doesn't work on YouTube?

My SeaMonkey supports all items on this page, and I have no problems 
with YT.





And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.




With all Yahoo users data being hacked in the past I wouldn't use it at 
all. I closed my Yahoo account when they announced they wouldn't support 
users Do Not Track browser setting.


I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser 
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most 
of my history on the internet.


I know the Firefox browser has millions more users than SeaMonkey. I 
think the latest figure for SM users I heard mentioned was 75,000.





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^ Hey, that antivirus software you are not being paid to advertise might 
be your problem. Have you tried disabling it on YT?


BTW You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mozilla User wrote:


I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


Sorry you're having trouble, but I haven't noticed it at all. YouTube 
performs just as well for me as it always has. I haven't tweaked it or 
made any special accommodations. It just runs. The same goes for my 
other video sources, the main exceptions being nhl.com and mlb.com, 
which seem purposely designed to be incompatible with AdBlock Plus. ;-) 
But even mlb.com is marginally tolerable if I disable ABP and mute the 
ads. I do so hate that damn gecko!


I haven't tried uninstalling Flash, Shockwave, and VLC player, so maybe 
that matters.


And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


Here, too, I don't share your experience. Of course I've always hated 
webmails, so if there's a problem outside of POP3/IMAP/SMTP I wouldn't 
know about it. Two or three times a year I go into Gmail for a few 
minutes to tweak a setting or double-check the spam folder, but that's 
pretty much it; the rest of the time I send/receive Gmail through 
SMTP/POP3 like the rest of my accounts.


I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser 
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most 
of my history on the internet.


I really wish people wouldn't extrapolate from their own individual 
experience to the thousands of users out there in cyberspace. A sample 
size of one is nearly meaningless in global terms even if it is the most 
important one to you.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old Version 
of YT. Once
they force the switch on you, I won't be able to load YT without it freezing 
and locking
up when using scripts.

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer version 
of their
mail system. I tried to download and install the extension User Agent Switcher, 
and guess
what? SeaMonkey is not compatible with the current version of that.. no 
surprise.

I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser did.. 
and that
sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most of my history on the 
internet.

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Mine works perfectly.
There is no need to check outgoing mail and newgroup posts for viruses with 
Avast.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Luis Carlos González Moráles]

I know. What I know is that I liked SeaMonkey better than firefox and
thunderbird. The problem is that for a blind user I don't know if that
project will be ded or instantly revive in an other project, just thinking.

Mozilla User wrote:
> I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.
>
> YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old
> Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to
> load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.
>
> And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the
> newer version of their mail system. I tried to download and install
> the extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not
> compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.
>
> I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser
> did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most
> of my history on the internet.
>
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SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

[Mozilla User]

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser 
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most 
of my history on the internet.


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Re: V2.48 Security Certificate Problem

[David E. Ross]

On 12/18/2017 1:17 PM, Henrik37 wrote:
>> Oops - after a complete reboot, SM 2.49.1 does appear to have solved the 
>> problem.
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea or explanation about what has been going on?
> Oops again - SM 2.49.1 DIDN'T fix my problem after all.  More ideas sought.

Have you tried starting SeaMonkey in Safe Mode?

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Re: V2.48 Security Certificate Problem

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Henrik37 wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Henrik37 wrote:


Here is a typical error message:

"This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.homedepot.com, 
but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.


Normally, when you try to connect securely, websites will present 
trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right 
place. However, this website's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this website without problems, this error 
could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the website, and 
you shouldn't continue.

Technical Details
I Understand the Risks"


No problem here with 2.49.1.


  I have loaded SM 2.49.1 and it didn't solve the problem.

Oops - after a complete reboot, SM 2.49.1 does appear to have solved the 
problem.


Does anyone have any idea or explanation about what has been going on?


Oops again - SM 2.49.1 DIDN'T fix my problem after all.  More ideas sought.
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Re: Google Search Tools Not Working

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 12/16/2017 2:40 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
Thanks.  Positioning the cursor over that very thin target area did 
work.  I had been clicking the drop-down arrow, which works on most such 
menus.  Actually, clicking anywhere on the tool title or arrow works on 
other browsers.  Why would the target be so much smaller with SeaMonkey?


I have not changed minimum font size, which defaults to none.

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

The Tools button on the Google search page opens drop-down lists for 
setting time range of search results and verbatim/all results 
settings. These tools work as expected in other browsers, but 
clicking the drop-down tools in SeaMonkey does nothing.


Their webmaster is an idiot, designed the page layout poorly.

You have to mouse over a very thin sliver of space just under "Any 
time" and "All results" to get the options for those parameters. When 
the cursor turns to a hand (or whatever symbol indicates a clickable 
link on your system), click and you'll see the options:


Any time   All results
Past hour  Verbatim
Past 24 hours
Past week
Past month
Past year
Custom range

It also helps if you don't set a minimum font size for "Western." The 
larger your minimum font size, the harder it is to find that sliver of 
clickable space.


Edit | Appearance | Fonts






Bad browser sniffing.  They use different css instructions for SM 
because they are using browser name instead of rendering engine.  Add 
this to the userContent.css file in your SM profile chrome folder:


@-moz-document domain(google.com) {
#hdtb-msb {
display: flex !important;
align-items: baseline;
}
}

Lem Johnson
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