Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread rjkrjk 

a rather strong statement
not dead for me, very much alive and working very well.

it just may be YOUR setup that is not working
try safe mode

a question is much better than your statement



Mozilla User wrote on 12/18/17 7:39 PM:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old Version 
of YT. Once
they force the switch on you, I won't be able to load YT without it freezing 
and locking up
when using scripts.

And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer version 
of their
mail system. I tried to download and install the extension User Agent Switcher, 
and guess
what? SeaMonkey is not compatible with the current version of that.. no 
surprise.

I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser did.. 
and that sucks,
because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most of my history on the internet.

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UPDATE SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread Mozilla User 
YouTube still crashes with a script error for "desktop_polymer.js" 
whenever I use YouTube's new format. As long as I stick with the older 
style, I have no issues with unresponsive script errors.


I also fixed the problem with YahooMail by logging in from another 
browser, and switching back to the older version of YahooMail as well. 
After that, I am able to once again use it with this browser.




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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread EE 

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

You don't need User Agent Switcher.  Just change it yourself.
Keep the Firefox/number at or above the current version.
general.useragent.override;Mozilla/55.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win128; x128; 
rv:57.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/77.0


User Agent Switcher still works.  If you open the .xpi file, extract 
install.rdf and increase the max version number for SeaMonkey, save the 
file, put it back into the archive, save the archive and install it, the 
extension will install and it will work.
You can download the installer with any browser.  Just right-click the 
green button and choose save.


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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread EE 

Felix Miata wrote:

Mozilla User composed on 2017-12-18 23:00 (UTC-0500):


I've got to switch to a new browser


No one is forced to use a single browser. SM remains my primary, having taken
over from Mozilla Suite, which in turn took over from Netscape 4, and prior, on
my primary PC, but on it I have two different constantly used SM profiles, using
different SM versions, several Firefox profiles, 3 in constant use, each using a
different FF version, Konqueror, and very rarely used, Chromium & Qupzilla.

SeaMonkey is my default browser still, but I found Pale Moon to be great 
as well.


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SeaMonkey 2.51

2017-12-19 Thread Pat Connors 
I am not experiencing any problems with 2.51.  I use both Yahoo and 
Gmail email programs.

I am on a Window 10
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Re: Can't "Report a Number" to nomorobo.com any more

2017-12-19 Thread Arnie Goetchius 
Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> I can report a number using Google Chrome but not SM 2.49.1
> 
It is now working okay. Must have been a temporary glitch.
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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread NFN Smith 

Mozilla User wrote:


YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.



I'm running 2.49.1, and not having any problems with either one -- and I 
make extensive use of both NoScript and AdBlock plus.


When you have issues of this nature, the problem is rarely Seamonkey 
itself, but problems accumulated in your user profile.  The same 
principle applies to both Firefox and Thunderbird.


Over time, entropy can set into a profile, especially if you do much in 
the way of extensions.


See what happens when you try Seamonkey in safe mode (Help -> Restart 
with add-ons disabled). Besides temporarily extensions, it will also 
temporarily reset most of your preferences to default.  In my own 
experience, I've found that even a one-time start of Seamonkey in safe 
mode can occasionally be sufficient to clear problems.


If you have more than a couple of extensions, you might try 
uninstall/reinstall on each.


You may also want to see what you can do with a fresh profile, where 
you're really starting over from scratch.  If you use Seamonkey for 
mail, that takes a little more effort of copying your data over to a new 
profile, but if your profile is really old, it may be worth the effort.


On my own setup, I keep a spare profile that is almost entirely default 
configuration settings.  On occasions that I have troubles getting to a 
particular site (and I do have that happen some, with my use of blocking 
tools), it's easy enough to launch the alternate profile.  Although 
there's a handful of sites that demand a Firefox User Agent string, the 
default one that Seamonkey shows is usually sufficient, and I find it 
very rare that I need to resort to spoofing (in my case, PrefBar), and 
rarer still that a site will not work, if I'm spoofing.


However, making even temporary use of a near-pristine profile is enough 
to be pretty conclusive that problems aren't generic to "Seamonkey", but 
virtually always problems with the individual profile.


Smith

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

> But dead? Not quite yet.

No in zombie state and just keeps going :)

> I don't think there's been motivation to catch up since things have fallen 
so far behind and I imagine it's very difficult to garner the will to want to 
catch up.


Well for every breakage fixed in the new builds you get 2 new because of other 
"improvements" or removals of a few lines of code from core because they are 
no longer used in Fx and are such a huuugggee burden on the codebase... The 
motivation to keep up is maybe not so great anymore but SeaMonkey is still 
building. I am loonking forward to the ESR 60 release so that we can finally 
see what needs to be fixed.


We try but not enigh devs. But it has been declared dead for years and is 
still running fine :)


FRG



TCW wrote:

On 12/18/2017 6:39 PM, Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to load YT 
without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the extension 
User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not compatible with the 
current version of that.. no surprise.


I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser did.. 
and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most of my 
history on the internet.


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I'm using a build from Frank-Rainer of x64 2.53 and it works well with *some* 
stuff still needing to be fixed. But it's stable for daily use. Youtube works. 
Certainly I agree that Seamonkey is not maintained like it used to be but it's 
because of the build system. But dead? Not quite yet. I don't think there's 
been motivation to catch up since things have fallen so far behind and I 
imagine it's very difficult to garner the will to want to catch up.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread Ed Mullen 
On 12/18/2017 at 7:39 PM, Mozilla User created this epitome of digital 
genius:
And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


SM 2.49.1 on Win 10 Pro.  User Agent Switcher installed and working just 
fine.


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Re: half a character missing

2017-12-19 Thread Ed Mullen 

On 12/19/2017 at 7:17 AM, null created this epitome of digital genius:

Daniel wrote:

null wrote:
Recently, I've noticed that in the "From" line in the header for 
posts read here, the left half of the first character of the entry is 
missing, i.e. doesn't display.
Not getting this when I use SM for my own emails. Anyone else noticed 
this? Seems to be a misalignment specific to these Mozilla groups.


Not me!! All showing fine!!


Well, the vertical stroke in your "D" for "Daniel" is missing! Weird, eh?


Sounds like a video driver issue.  Try updating.

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Re: half a character missing

2017-12-19 Thread WaltS48 

On 12/19/17 7:17 AM, null wrote:

Daniel wrote:

null wrote:
Recently, I've noticed that in the "From" line in the header for 
posts read here, the left half of the first character of the entry 
is missing, i.e. doesn't display.
Not getting this when I use SM for my own emails. Anyone else 
noticed this? Seems to be a misalignment specific to these Mozilla 
groups.


Not me!! All showing fine!!


Well, the vertical stroke in your "D" for "Daniel" is missing! Weird, eh?



Restart in safe mode.

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Re: SeaMonkey Project is pretty much dead.

2017-12-19 Thread TCW 

On 12/18/2017 6:39 PM, Mozilla User wrote:

I believe we are looking at the final days of SeaMonkey.

YouTube has not worked in several months without switching to the Old 
Version of YT. Once they force the switch on you, I won't be able to 
load YT without it freezing and locking up when using scripts.


And Yahoo Mail no longer works now that they've forced you to the newer 
version of their mail system. I tried to download and install the 
extension User Agent Switcher, and guess what? SeaMonkey is not 
compatible with the current version of that.. no surprise.


I'm guessing this browser will go out the same way the Mozilla Browser 
did.. and that sucks, because I've used Mozilla and SeaMonkey for most 
of my history on the internet.


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I'm using a build from Frank-Rainer of x64 2.53 and it works well with 
*some* stuff still needing to be fixed. But it's stable for daily use. 
Youtube works. Certainly I agree that Seamonkey is not maintained like 
it used to be but it's because of the build system. But dead? Not quite 
yet. I don't think there's been motivation to catch up since things have 
fallen so far behind and I imagine it's very difficult to garner the 
will to want to catch up.

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Re: half a character missing

2017-12-19 Thread null 

Daniel wrote:

null wrote:
Recently, I've noticed that in the "From" line in the header for 
posts read here, the left half of the first character of the entry is 
missing, i.e. doesn't display.
Not getting this when I use SM for my own emails. Anyone else noticed 
this? Seems to be a misalignment specific to these Mozilla groups.


Not me!! All showing fine!!


Well, the vertical stroke in your "D" for "Daniel" is missing! Weird, eh?
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Re: half a character missing

2017-12-19 Thread Daniel 

null wrote:
Recently, I've noticed that in the "From" line in the header for posts 
read here, the left half of the first character of the entry is missing, 
i.e. doesn't display.
Not getting this when I use SM for my own emails. Anyone else noticed 
this? Seems to be a misalignment specific to these Mozilla groups.


Not me!! All showing fine!!

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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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Re: V2.48 Security Certificate Problem

2017-12-19 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

How to enable or disable secure connections (HTTPS) check

https://support.kaspersky.com/13558#block3

FRG


Henrik37 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/18/2017 1:17 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Oops - after a complete reboot, SM 2.49.1 does appear to have solved the
problem.

Does anyone have any idea or explanation about what has been going on?

Oops again - SM 2.49.1 DIDN'T fix my problem after all.  More ideas sought.


Have you tried starting SeaMonkey in Safe Mode?


Tried safe mode.  Still the same error messages.

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Re: V2.48 Security Certificate Problem

2017-12-19 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 
Kapersky is intercepting https traffic. You either need to disable this or 
import the Kapersky certificate into SeaMonkey. I am not using Kapersky and 
would never allow this to happen anyway so I can't help you with locating the 
certificate. It is essentially a Kapersky problem because the installer does 
not do this for other than the few browsers it knows.


FRG

Henrik37 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/18/2017 1:17 PM, Henrik37 wrote:

Oops - after a complete reboot, SM 2.49.1 does appear to have solved the
problem.

Does anyone have any idea or explanation about what has been going on?

Oops again - SM 2.49.1 DIDN'T fix my problem after all.  More ideas sought.


Have you tried starting SeaMonkey in Safe Mode?


Tried safe mode.  Still the same error messages.

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