Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 5/28/2019 6:23 AM, chokito wrote:

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:13:37 AM UTC+2, Jonathan Wilson wrote:

My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of
the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox
(and other browsers do).


Use 'general.useragent.override.netflix.com' with 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0' works for me with Silverligt and latest 
SM 2.49.5.



My banking site won't work using that old a value for the Firefox 
version in the override.  It does work with:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:66.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/66.0


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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

[WaltS48]

On 5/28/19 2:38 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote:

chokito wrote:

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:13:37 AM UTC+2, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey 
regardless of
the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that 
Firefox

(and other browsers do).


Use 'general.useragent.override.netflix.com' with 'Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0' works for me 
with Silverligt and latest SM 2.49.5.


That's good to know.  I do have the Silverlight add-on installed;  but 
my version of SeaMonkey only offers an update to SM 2.49.4.  I have been 
hesitant to update from 2.49.1 just on general principles, since this is 
the only problem I've encountered with 2.49.1.  I'll watch for the 
availability of 2.49.5 and update to that and see if it works.  In the 
meantime, I'll continue to use my temp fix for opening the Netflix link 
in one of my other browsers.


Thanks to all for your input.



You can an unofficial 2.49.5 now.



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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

[Ken Rudolph]

chokito wrote:

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:13:37 AM UTC+2, Jonathan Wilson wrote:

My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of
the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox
(and other browsers do).


Use 'general.useragent.override.netflix.com' with 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0' works for me with Silverligt and latest 
SM 2.49.5.


That's good to know.  I do have the Silverlight add-on installed;  but 
my version of SeaMonkey only offers an update to SM 2.49.4.  I have been 
hesitant to update from 2.49.1 just on general principles, since this is 
the only problem I've encountered with 2.49.1.  I'll watch for the 
availability of 2.49.5 and update to that and see if it works.  In the 
meantime, I'll continue to use my temp fix for opening the Netflix link 
in one of my other browsers.


Thanks to all for your input.

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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

[EE]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
Too many sites these days just do not support links from e-mail to the 
SeaMonkey browser (no matter how I set it to spoof Firefox).  For instance 
Netflix e-mail links go to an "unsupported browser" page no matter what.  I do 
also have the most updated version of Firefox on my computer.  I was wondering 
if there is any way to set my e-mail composer (in SeaMonkey) to have the 
option to link to the actual Firefox browser when I click on a link rather 
than the SeaMonkey one.  I want to continue to use the SeaMonkey mail side and 
also the actual updated Firefox browser side, at least as an option.  By the 
way, I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.49.1, which I have been happy with... 
afraid to upgrade to version 2.49.4 since who knows what might happen to 
profile etc.  Is it possible that just upgrading to the latest SM version 
might solve this?


Thanks.

If I want to use another browser to load a linked page, I right-click the 
link, choose "Copy link location", then paste that into the address bar of the 
other browser.  I do not have problems with all links from emails, so I choose 
to do it that way.


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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
Oh, well, there is a lengthy go-around:  save the link, then open 
Firefox (or Chrome, or Edge) and open the link there to watch the 
Netflix trailer etc.


I'm not sure if I've understood what you mean by "save the link" but, if 
you're currently saving it as a file, a slightly quicker workaround 
would be to right-click the link and select "Copy Link Location", open 
Firefox, and paste into the address bar (or "awesome bar" or whatever 
they're calling it this week...)


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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

[chokito]

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:13:37 AM UTC+2, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of 
> the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox 
> (and other browsers do).

Use 'general.useragent.override.netflix.com' with 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0' works for me with Silverligt and latest 
SM 2.49.5.
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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

[Daniel]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 28/05/2019 9:25 AM:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/27/19 4:26 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote:

Too many sites these days just do not support links from e-mail to
the SeaMonkey browser (no matter how I set it to spoof Firefox).  For
instance Netflix e-mail links go to an "unsupported browser" page no
matter what.  I do also have the most updated version of Firefox on
my computer.  I was wondering if there is any way to set my e-mail
composer (in SeaMonkey) to have the option to link to the actual
Firefox browser when I click on a link rather than the SeaMonkey one.
I want to continue to use the SeaMonkey mail side and also the actual
updated Firefox browser side, at least as an option.  By the way, I'm
using SeaMonkey version 2.49.1, which I have been happy with...
afraid to upgrade to version 2.49.4 since who knows what might happen
to profile etc.  Is it possible that just upgrading to the latest SM
version might solve this?

Thanks.



You are using SeaMonkey 2.49.1, but posting to this newsgroup with
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/59.0.3"?

No wonder Netflix thinks you are using an outdated browser.

Try changing the user agent to "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0.3". The rv: and Firefox/ match in
every version I have ever used.


I did try changing the user agent as you asked (I think it is done now.)
  I still get an error page on the Netflix site in the SM browser when I
try to watch a video.  It says:  "Netflix system requirements for HTML5
Player and Silverlight:  You can use our HTML5 player or the Silverlight
plug-in to watch Netflix TV shows and movies on PCs running Windows XP
or later, and Intel-based Macs running OS X Tiger (v10.4.11) or later.
You'll find a complete list of requirements below for HTML5, Silverlight
4, and Silverlight 5." claiming that this browser doesn't fit that
requirement (although I think it does.)

Anyway, the e-mail link works to play videos when I open it in Firefox,
Chrome and Edge.  But not SeaMonkey with that user agent.  What I need
is a right click to "Open Message in Firefox" or whatever, not "Open
Message in a New Tab." Would that be impossible?


It can be done by editing the Windows registry.
View the source to find out the clickable language of the "links" (htm, 
html, css, etc.)(or http, https prefixes) and set the windows shell to 
open those strings / files with FF.

However, its all or nothing.

Ken, it's not necessarily a Windows Registry edit, but, as Paul 
suggests, it's all or nothing.


If you want to open *ALL* Web links in another browser, enter 
"about:config" (without the inverted commas) in the SM Browser address 
bar, accept the warning, then, in the search bar on that screen, type 
"external" (without the commas) and one of the prefs left should be 
"browser.link.open_external" and change its setting to '2'.


If you want to know further details, go to 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries and read up about the 
various preferences.


HTH.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

[Ken Rudolph]

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless 
of the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that 
Firefox (and other browsers do).


Thanks.  That makes sense.  And it makes it all the more vital to have a 
fix in SM e-mail, like right clicking on a link to Netflix and have a 
drop down menu that has the option "Open link in Firefox".  Or, better 
yet, maybe provide a DRM plugin for SM (whatever that is.)  After all, 
Netflix is a major internet site that uses an enormous amount of net 
traffic that SeaMonkey should be able to utilize.


Oh, well, there is a lengthy go-around:  save the link, then open 
Firefox (or Chrome, or Edge) and open the link there to watch the 
Netflix trailer etc.  This seems to be a real flaw in the SeaMonkey 
all-in-one mail/browser architecture that goes back to Netscape.  Oddly 
enough, I think it is the first time I've encountered this situation.


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Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.5: SM 2.53 kernel panics

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Gabriel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto il 26/05/19 alle 11:35:



Gabriel wrote:


I also switched off the hardware acceleration in SM on the iMac but that 
didn't help, on or off it's the same.


So: my (big) sessionstore.json + iMac 10.14.5 with AMD R9 390 = crash.

What I'm also wondering is why neither of SM and Mojave create a crash report! 
macOS doesn't send the usual crash report after the reboot and the "crashes" 
folder in SM is empty.


So what do you thing about all this mess?


My mac mini only has Intel Graphics so if it works with the later versions 
chances are I never can reproduce it. I can only guess what causes it. Might 
be 3 things: Bad hardware, bad driver or a bug in a different macOS component. 
There might be a bug or sequence in SeaMonkey session restore or mozilla code 
which triggers it for SeaMonkey only.


Overall I am not seeing a spike in crashes with 2.53. Not one for macOS.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/topcrashers/?product=SeaMonkey&version=2.53&days=28

So without either a macOS or SeaMonkey crash report not much which can be done 
:(

Happy to try the sessionstore.json file.
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Re: Link to Firefox browser side?

[Jonathan Wilson]

My guess is that Netflix wont play back content on SeaMonkey regardless of 
the user agent since SeaMonkey doesn't support the DRM plugins that Firefox 
(and other browsers do).


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